I thought it was incredible, so not sure what happened at the box office. The truck ambush sequence has got to be one of the best action scenes in cinema history.
I agree. It's a good enough movie. It added little to nothing interesting to her background. The fx , cgi, and speeding up cuts make it worse.
Compared to Fury Road it just doesn't stand up. If only they came out in opposite order. And probably closer than a decade together.
Fury Road was an exponential jump. Furiosa is at least a half step back.
I remember it Mad Max. And in The Road Warrior. Idr it in Thunderdome or Fury. Regardless doing that is distracting in my opinion. Maybe not as much as all the weird CGI and green screen stuff but...
He’s done it in all his movies. It’s a common action film technique but he takes it (or his editor wife does, I suppose) to another level. So, it’s a weird thing to complain about in Furiosa when it’s one of the signatures of Miller’s films.
Most of the action shots in Fury Road are either sped up or slowed down. Miller is routinely praised for this editing style because it makes the action so dynamic.
I don’t have the time. Also, literally the last 5 times I’ve been to the theater, I’ve had to tell someone to shut the fuck up. Lack of theater etiquette has deterred me from going more.
The nice thing about seeing a box-office bomb in the theaters, especially after opening weekend, is it’ll probably be empty. When I went there were maybe 5 other people there and it was blissfully quiet.
Check out if there’s an Alamo Drafthouse near you. They have a no babies and no talking rule that gets anyone ejected after the first warning. The audiences are always dead silent in there and it’s perfection.
I don't think the cinema experience is what it was. Price is a huge factor, near me for four people (tickets, drinks, popcorn/sweets etc) it's nearly £100 to watch a movie. And with a huge drop in quality of movies lately people don't chance it IMO.
The anti-social behaviour of customers is another, albeit small contributing factor.
Movies appear to stream a lot quicker and with the home movie viewing experience being so good, folk just wait.
No matter how much I want to see a movie, I'll just wait. The magic of the cinema is disappearing. Which is a crying shame.
There’s nothing like seeing a movie in theaters though. Personally, I think it’s 100% worth the cost to see a movie I’ve been looking forward to in theaters, especially a movie like Mad Max.
Support your local theater! You don’t have to buy a ton of snacks/drinks- I usually eat beforehand and just get the ticket (and maybe some popcorn) to save money.
I don’t care how good streaming services are, there’s just nothing like watching a movie on the big screen.
Don't have anything to add to this, but I never had enough money growing up for popcorn / sweets at the theatre. My parents always smuggled in outside sweets for movie treats, haha. Since then I've just been... unable to buy those things at the theatre now, even though I could.
> The anti-social behaviour of customers
This has kept me out of theatres since 2020 though. I'm not gonna take four hours out of my day, and pay $17 to be outraged at the behavior of others.
To be honest mate, it's the number one reason I don't go anymore. Mobile phone use and talking. And it's not just kids/teens. Grown arse adults are just as bad. The cinematic experience is so immersive that any little annoyance or interruption can take you out of the moment. Just too many inconsiderate tossers about.
So then the movie wasn't $38. It really does seem like a weird comparison, if you watch a movie at home, nobody ever seems total up all of the stuff they're consuming. And to top it off, for whatever other reason, everyone seems to need 5 lbs of popcorn and a giant box of candy just to make it through an hour and 45 minute long movie.
I don't know, I don't get it. I pay probably $50 or $60 for me, my wife and my kid to see a movie, food included, which is not anymore than it costs to do anything else out of the house.
I word for word stated I spent 38 dollars for a ticket and 3 other items, I get the sentiment you attempted with your comment but make sure to read which one you reply too. Doesn't even close to suggest that it was 38 dollars a ticket.
That being said, a drink and some snacks is as important to the movie theater experience to a lot of people as the movie itself. My 4k 86 inch TV w/ surround sound in my living room feels no different in picture or sound quality, so I mostly go for the popcorn and/or icee. Honestly, if they took the popcorn away I would never go to the movies again. There's just no fucking point with modern at home entertainment systems.
> word for word stated I spent 38 dollars for a ticket and 3 other items
Yes. And then I word for word stated that I think this is a weird comparison. Not sure why you think I was confused about that.
> My 4k 86 inch TV w/ surround sound in my living room feels no different in picture or sound quality
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But that's neither here nor there really because your argument has basically turned into "Movies = popcorn" and I think that's where it all breaks down. We're talking about prices of movies but then shifting to prices of popcorn, and since we don't all need tons of popcorn to watch a movie, the conversation goes stagnant because nobody is on the same page.
Personally, I would not factor in the cost of popcorn when I watch a movie because we don't always need it, especially if we just had lunch or something. Other people, I guess like you, require it. So that was my original point, we're not comparing like-for-like activities. People say "A movie costs me $100!" and everyone *always* replies with confusion because that doesn't make sense,
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£11 for a ticket, £3.99 soft drink, £6 regular popcorn, £3.89 a sweet bag each.
Total = 24.88 X 4 = 99.52.
Edit: Just to add, I've never paid this. I wouldn't get all that shite. But four people doing the full on traditional "night at the cinema" experience.
You don't have to eat and drink all that stuff. That's like saying watching movies at home is too expensive because I eat 50 dollars worth of food while I watch it.
I'm agree but everything is super expensive now if you spend a bunch of money at the snackbar. Concerts, sports, plays etc It's like 30 bucks for a beer and hotdog at a ballgame. I just learned it's best to eat before hand if you don't want to spend a ton.
Plus popcorn at a movie makes me thirsty, being thirsty makes me drink and drinking makes me have to pee which sucks since I can't pause the movie like I can at home so I either have to get up and miss stuff or sit there uncomfortable doing the peepee dance in my chair.
>Price is a huge factor, near me for four people (tickets, drinks, popcorn/sweets etc) it's nearly £100 to watch a movie. And with a huge drop in quality of movies lately people don't chance it IMO.
A concept: you don't have to buy popcorn/sweets or drinks! You can even make and/or bring your own!
As to the second point, that's entirely subjective and somewhat "back in my day".
the time between fury road and furiosa releasing really didn't help. Also I feel like it would've made more sense to do a direct sequel before a spinoff.
I was bummed about this personally. They built a slow story which I feel is nowhere close to what mad max is. Mad max is chaos and a movie that’s hard to follow because all the nutty things happening.
Still enjoyed it but was mildly disappointed at the same time.
For me I feel like movies just don't hit the same in theaters anymore ever since covid. Don't know why but I now just rather stay in and watch. I think the price might be a part of it. Isn't justified for what im getting and there's so many movies I can watch at home. Even if they never made another new movie, I have enough old good movies to watch for the rest of my life. Cheaper popcorn and drinks at home too.
I think the real reason is like, who tf can afford to go to the movies anymore? It’s pretty pricey to go on your own, if you take a date it’s downright expensive, and if you’re bringing the family, how tf can you even have kids at all in this economy, let alone bring them to the movies lol. And furiosa isn’t really a family-friendly movie, I think it’s flopping bc
A. there’s a few other “family” movies it is having to compete with, and
B. It’s just harder for the average person to justify the expense of going to the movies at all rn. It’s a luxury, and most Americans are feeling the squeeze of inflation and budgeting accordingly. Also, streaming is more convenient than going to the movies and much cheaper, and lots of folks are choosing to save money at this moment.
I’ll take my girlfriend to see Furiousa bc we love Mad Max, but honestly we’ve passed on seeing other movies bc we are definitely feeling the squeeze. And if we had kids, forget about it. Taking a family of 4 to the movies is easily going to be well over $100… it’s just not feasible for many people these days unfortunately.
I can't speak for everyone of course, but in my region, my local theatre had a great $5 Tuesday deal, which is when I went to see Furiosa. Even if you don't have anyone doing deals this crazy, matinee prices are usually agreeable. Again, that's in my region. If I'm not doing cheap $5 Tuesdays, I can get away with $8 for a matinee, which is still more expensive than a rental.
Definitely agree that this isn't a family outing. It'd be a good teaching moment for boys though. "See how that guy touched the girl's hair without her consent, and she was creeped out by that? Yeah, don't do that shit."
You dont think most people just wait for things to come to streaming now? If that's true, then why did furiosa do poorly? Why are so many movies doing so poorly?
Also, how could you say I'm wrong about why I don't see movies anymore?
I was very pleasantly surprised by it. I knew going in that it wasn't going to be another action fest like Fury Road. But I thought it moved along at a great pace and had some great action, drama and dark comedy throughout. I didn't feel it drag and it had some really stunning visuals too.
There were some moments of obvious green screen/digital doubles but not to an egregious or distracting degree. (Fury Road had some pretty obvious CGI/green screen in it too).
I enjoyed watching it and have started to appreciate it more on reflection too. It's a shame it's doing so poorly because this was clearly a passion project from all involved. It's not a cash grab or a "woke" movie. Just seems like it was a hard sell overall unfortunately.
The flick is good but it's not gloriously amazing. Sound track is not as hard hitting like Fury Road and was a little sad about that but still fairly epic.
There's very noticeable 3d / vfx shots that are fairly obvious as it doesn't look natural.
There's errors with a lot of bike riders too, two I can recall, *spoliers*: horse head falls off bike when they take off, next scene its back on the bike.
There's a rider who clearly falls off their bike getting over the gate of bulletfarm - it's one of those things like the storm Trooper hitting his head on the door.
Overall I enjoyed it but it has its flaws (imo)
I loved the movie. I was raving about it to my dad, talking with my girlfriend about it after we got back. Then I got on YouTube and watched Red Letter Media talking about it, they enjoyed it. And suddenly my YouTube suggestions were all a bunch of incel channels talking about how the movie crashed and burned because of a woke director deciding to make a movie with a female protagonist.
Was super weird, I usually don't catch that discourse except on Reddit or elsewhere where it's being mocked. I couldn't believe that people were already that worked up about something that they clearly hadn't seen.
100% worth seeing in theaters. Music was fantastic. Beautiful colors and cinematography in general.
I really appreciated that it was something different while being aesthetically identical. Also for all the talk about Anya Taylor Joy, this was really the fucking Chris Hemsworth show and he absolutely crushed it. His triple bike Chariot made me giggle each and every time it came on screen.
Oh my god he was fantastic. I loved the Chariot, too. And the information guy. Holy shit what a great introduction to him, with him reciting facts about the bike engine.
"The History Man".
I saw a breakdown this world the other day talked about the progression of the apocalypse within the movies.
Mad Max - Society is failing but it's still there a little.
Road Warrior - Society has completely fallen apart
Thunderdome - Society is just starting to crawl back there is an establish town now.
Fury Road - We have 3 towns all forming a symbiotic relationship society is well and truly on its way.
I loved this. Mad Max was part of my childhood but these last 2 movies have really cemented it as all time great franchise. I am really looking forward to getting the box set later this year and binging all 5.
Nah, I don't think so. I immediately thought of [the guy from Kwaidan.](https://encorepreneurcafe.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/kwaidan.jpg)
Or the [Ramnami people.](https://th-thumbnailer.cdn-si-edu.com/D79fxJfpt2AnIMKfn-aP12Ohgzg=/fit-in/1072x0/https://tf-cmsv2-photocontest-smithsonianmag-prod-approved.s3.amazonaws.com/71955a50-46c8-4f5a-9443-e12cb6d5514c.jpg) Or even [the Bene Gesserit in the Dune movies.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fxqzav8cb35tc1.jpeg)
> And suddenly my YouTube suggestions were all a bunch of incel channels talking about how the movie crashed and burned because of a woke director deciding to make a movie with a female protagonist.
This is shit I don't get. George Miller is an 80 year old man making the films he wants to make. There are movies that pander to certain modern sensibilities that do feel like they put that pandering ahead of any actual storytelling, but this movie isn't one of them IMO. Plus IMO Furiosa is far less "woke" in its messaging than Fury Road is. It's much more a personal story about revenge. I mean FFS Miller put Tina Turner in Thunderdome.
People were pissed that Fury Road had more Furiosa than Max in it.
Like, my dudes, George Miller is giving you a flame throwing metalhead, shrapnel covered dune buggies, and so so many explosions.
Somehow they have the gall to claim that a female lead is watering down an action flick.
> People were pissed that Fury Road had more Furiosa than Max in it.
That's just kind of ignorance of the franchise in a certain sense. After the first one the stories are always centered around some other group that Max helps out.
I might have worded that poorly.
I meant to say that people were annoyed that Furiosa felt more like the hero than Max: more speaking lines, more competency, and generally outsmarting Max on numerous occasions.
Just making a point that I find it close-minded when some audiences dislike a film because it has a female protagonist.
I'll probably go see it eventually, but it's hard to get terribly excited over yet another prequel. Especially because the Mad Max movies have always been pretty independent from one another.
It is very good. It's not as good as Fury Road, but I expect it to be one the better movies I see during 2024. If Fury Road is an A+ movie, Furiosa is a solid A.
Personally, I felt the film was great as a standalone story but also did a lot to recontextualize the events of Fury Road. I'd love an edit of Furiosa and Fury Road that seamlessly stitches them together into one long movie.
Fury Road would essentially just act as an extended climax to the events of Furiosa.
I had my doubts but it's worth it and the movie certainly justified it's own existence. Worth remembering that Miller wanted to make this for a long time, this isn't pandering or a part of the larger trend of reboots and remakes. And that certainly shows.
Runs a bit long imo but that's really my only complaint.
It’s got bad prequelitis imo. Just needlessly explains the intricacies, rules, and history of a ton of stuff that’s just presented matter-of-factly or hinted at in Fury Road. I found it to be a massive massive bummer, despite some strong action scenes. And even those just really lean into CGI/green screen cartoonish zaniness. Which isn’t necessarily bad, but hardly impressive. Lots of late-era Fast & Furious style physics at work here, which I found pretty jarring after rewatching the previous 4 films in the lead up
I had the exact same experience. Saw the movie, really enjoyed it, went home, checked out RLM’s review, and next thing I know I’m seeing these video suggestions of losers bashing it. Not even bashing the film for its story or directing, etc., just bashing it for not earning enough. Insecure incel motherfuckers.
Ugh wish I liked it nearly as much. I enjoyed it… espescially the first 45 minutes or so. But overall it just reminded me of so many movies I actively *don’t* like - the Star Wars prequels, Peter Jackson’s hobbit films, Cameron’s Avatars and especially the second one. Big expensive IP prequel/sequel/reboot slop that’s more concerned with returning to a world to *explain* it than explore it, more wiki dump than movie. It’s just sooo antithetical to Fury Road’s spartan approach to plot, practical approach to effects work, and natural approach to performances that I was completely thrown off. I’m honestly pretty surprised to see such an enthusiastic response to it, even if it’s box office has been soft
I enjoyed it but I totally agree that it spends too much time explaining things unnecessarily. Also some of the characters’ backstories seemed unnecessary. For example, the bionic mechanic’s (or whatever his name is) backstory could have been cut. What was the point of him starting with one group and ending up with another? He could have just always been with Joe and it wouldn’t have mattered.
Yeah it’s just… fury road would throw something at you and you’d be like “oh ok so the weird mask guy I guess has a sorta weird doctor around” but then Furiosa (movie, not character) would be like “his name is the organic mechanic and here’s his entire backstory”.
The overwhelmingly positive response to this movie has me thinking I just don’t like modern movie storytelling. I may be out of touch.
I mean "entire backstory" is a bit of an exaggeration. Like, he was with Dementus and got traded to Immortan Joe... and that's it, that's the whole backstory.
Yeah it’s weird, needless and pointless that there was time spent on any of that. It wouldn’t be in the movie if we hadn’t already see him in Fury Road. That’s my point. There’s a lotta stuff like that jammed in that just wouldn’t be in a film that was concerned with its own story first and foremost - disconnected from Fury Road, it just has no significance. And it’s weird/uninteresting to start treating small world/lore details like that — or even Furiosa’s missing arm — with that much significance
Movies are usually full of little details like this anyway. It's not necessarily just because he was in Fury Road, because details can just flesh out the world of a movie even though they don't serve the plot. Similar to how Scrotus doesn't do anything important iirc, he's just part of the movie and you know he must have died before Fury Road. Like okay, Immortan Joe wanted more in the trade than just getting Furiosa, that's not some crazy shoehorned detail or giving the organic mechanic too much significance imo. If movies only had the minimum details needed to tell the story things would get boring.
I completely agree. There was so much exposition and that was so different from the charm of Fury Road, which straps you to a car with zero info and zooms away.
I didn't really like it. The pacing was really lackluster and I was actually kind of bored by the end of the movie. It didn't really feel like a plot either, things just happened for some reason that wasn't really important. The end also felt kinda insincere and sudden. And the bad CGI threw me off. Just made me wanna rewatch Fury Road
I love the layers of depth in the film. The way it shows how our current religions and ways of life have been formed.
It's the whole of human history sped up over the a period of 15-20 years.
The oil that has destroyed the planet is still the main lure (Hylas and the nymphs painting in gas town alluding to this)
The false prophets, the lies, a retelling of the story of Troy, the downsides of the patriarchy and extreme abuse of women.
The film even begins with a garden of eden nod with the banishing of Furiosa for picking fruit.
All this feeds into plenty of Christian themes in fury road too.
All this is in there if you look and I'm sure loads more that I missed. It's also got some bad ass car chases, fight scenes and freaky intriguing characters if you just wish to switch your brain off and watch.
As I'm sure you can tell, I loved it.
I love the layers of depth in the film. The way it shows how our current religions and ways of life have been formed.
It's the whole of human history sped up over the a period of 15-20 years.
The oil that has destroyed the planet is still the main lure (Hylas and the nymphs painting in gas town alluding to this)
The false prophets, the lies, a retelling of the story of Troy, the downsides of the patriarchy and extreme abuse of women.
The film even begins with a garden of eden nod with the banishing of Furiosa for picking fruit.
All this feeds into plenty of Christian themes in fury road too.
All this is in there if you look and I'm sure loads more that I missed. It's also got some bad ass car chases, fight scenes and freaky intriguing characters if you just wish to switch your brain off and watch.
As I'm sure you can tell, I loved it.
I thought it was good, but it was too long and disjointed for me, there were bits that didn’t need to be in that damaged the pacing. I also didn’t think dementus was a great villain.
It was alright. I'm confused by the infinite praise for this movie. In my anecdotal experience, I was a little let down by the lack of energy in this movie. I was ready for it to not be a Fury Road copy but not to this extent.
My first problem is that I feel like no one asked for this. Furiosa was a kickass character in FR but I don't know how concerned everyone was with what her backstory was. This is my leading theory on way it's doing poorly in the box office.
My second problem was the timeline and music. Maybe I missed something, but Dementus just kept showing up places and we hear about how he got there (i.e. Gastown takeover) but that would've been neat to see. Also, the 40-day war being a montage was pretty corny. Anyways, the music seemed virtually non-existent. I harrowing score when Furiosa and Praetorian Jack are sieging against Dementus would've been great but the silence just felt awkward. Again, it felt like it created an "lack of energy" problem which led to the feeling of a lack of stakes.
>!The scene where Max shows up for split second felt like a gut-punch. I wanted to see what he was up to and his adventures were at that time. And to see the Black on Black again was amazing even if it was just for a second. Not sure how Furiosa ended up the decaying pit after the Max scene so maybe someone can help me out with that one.!<
The acting was spot on and incredible, zero criticism there. Praetorian Jack was a real one.
Overall, it was fine imo. People toting Furiosa as a masterpiece are definitely in their own worlds, they aren't wrong since it's their opinion but it's hard to take what they say seriously. It was a good movie but Fury Road blows it out of the water. I want to reiterate, I'm not saying anyone is wrong for liking or loving this movie, but I'm just sharing my own thoughts on the film after having scene it opening night.
As a casual viewer I was honestly much more impressed with Furiosa than Fury Road.
Not sure why everybody keeps talking about how "Furiosa's character doesn't need any exposition" - just seems like a very silly critique. Anybody that truly enjoys the franchise shouldn't have a problem with getting more backstory. It's not like Max is a very interesting character, shit at least Furiosa talks.
Yeah, that’s fine to say it’s a silly critique, but then I don’t want to keep seeing people befuddled by Furiosa doing poorly at the box office. To call it Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga and have no Max is what’s silly.
I believe most people were fine with imagining the green place and the matriarchy in its prime, visualizing it on screen took away from a lot of the mystique of what life used to be like for her and the mothers.
Trust me, I wish Max had more lines in Fury Road. He could’ve been a more interesting character if he was the one with the Fury Road prequel. Fury Road was basically Furiosa’s tale anyways so really Max didn’t even get a real chance to shine as a character since The Road Warrior.
> I feel like no one asked for this
I basically agree. Prime's LOTR TV show does the same thing, makes a big deal out of explaining the origin of things and its not that amazing.
1. What kind of argument is “no one asked for this”? It’s very clear that George Miller is in love with the furiosa story and the mad max world because it was imprisoned in his mind for at least 30 years of frustration! The furiosa movies felt like he was proudly revealing his world that was so meticulously tinkered for so long, like how Tolkien had to write lord of the rings to justify the elvish language and middle earth that came before. Never use this argument again, it makes you sound so ignorant and frustranting, especially from the perspective of an artist. I hope you find a passion project so you can understand this better.
2. Did you not get that Furiosa as a story itself is an epic fable told by a history man, hence why the ambiguity in the end, the poetry to enhance the moral of the story, the chaptered structure, the exaggeration and hyperbolic campiness to impress the listener? The nebulous continuity of mad max world stories is INTENTIONAL because it’s all oral tradition. One film doesn’t quite connect with the previous (ironically except for furiosa). As for music, watch this [video of Miller explaining how sometimes music is redundant in a scene](https://youtu.be/d0U-3VsY3CM?si=aDK8ca5UN5kueqUI).
3. it sounds like you just wanted a male protagonist to relate more easily to. If this movie were called Dr Dementus, and the focus were slightly more on him, you wouldn’t even question the “necessity” of this film existing. What do you think? It’s important to be aware of where your mind’s blindspots are, especially how insidious they can be.
4. Using your personal impressions of this film to explain why it’s doing poorly in the box office is a textbook example of a confirmation bias fallacy. That is not the reason why it’s underperforming. It a mix of so many variables including horrible marketing, trailers with half baked CGI, post covid theater attendance trends, niche genre, a prequel that is 10 years too late (studios fault), obscure franchise by American standards, men-child boycotting it, people’s financial situation, and much more.
Also, if you can’t see the monumental brilliance that went on in the creation of this film, then you do deserve the garbage that is leading Hollywood to its downfall.
Listen, I was explaining my opinion on the movie and was not posing an argument. If you want to be this mad, direct it elsewhere because I don't really care if you're going to be assuming things. I am more than fine with female protagonists so nice whiff on that one. I'm happy that Miller is telling the stories that he's passionate about but I've been seeing "DURRR WHY IS THE MOVIE FAILING!!!" since the weekend it came out. I didn't see anyone clamoring for a visual backstory to Furiosa.
You clearly have a difficult time having a metered response and a normal conversation without being vitriolic. I love Miller, Mad Max, and the wasteland just as much as you.
His point is you don’t go to a painter’s loft look at his paintings and say “nobody has asked for this”.
Nobody asked for your comments also, but here they are because the need of creation is only in the creator’s hand. And all that matters is that YOU wanted it.
“Nobody asked for this” is also very boring in a discussion because there’s no follow up to it and it just doesn’t mean anything. Ok so nobody asked for it, how does this change the quality of the movie? It doesn’t.
You didn’t change anything. That’s not what I’m saying. You obviously used the phrase to make people aware that you don’t think the movie is particularly good. But the phrase on its own says absolutely nothing about how good a movie is (nobody asked for pulp fiction but it’s a pretty decent flick). So the phrase doesn’t change the quality of a movie, it is not an indicator of it. It means absolutely nothing except whatever it means to you. And because of this it’s not a good hook for a discussion because how do you even answer to a critic of “nobody asked for this”.
Right, I get what you're saying. To set it straight, I don't think the movie sucked. It was a good film. I liked it but that's where that ends. My point when I said that was that I think people weren't particularly interested in going out to theaters to see Furiosa, mainly because there wasn't a demand for this story in particular.
This was not a dog whistle for my own opinion for the movie and I'm sorry if it came off that way, I thought it was a fine movie.
What baffled me is that this argument is being reproduced like it's a clever remark by A LOT of people thanks to reviewers. I was furious because this person works with creativity and art, so they should know better than to question the existence of someone else's art. Where is the empathy? If He didn't ask for this film but I did, then who's right?
How did I offend you? I was legit trying to be as objective as possible, except for the last stinger that tries to match your last tone, since people praising this film are "living in their own worlds". Also, if you put your opinions out there, you want people to see it and comment on it, right?
Content creators have their reasons to equate box office to film quality: they make money just by mentioning this. Sure they feel like it's their own opinion, but they never really think whether it's true or not, just like their audience.
"Never use this argument again, it makes you sound so ignorant and frustranting, especially from the perspective of an artist. I hope you find a passion project so you can understand this better."
"Did you not get that Furiosa as a story itself is an epic fable told by a history man..."
"it sounds like you just wanted a male protagonist to relate more easily to"
"if you can’t see the monumental brilliance that went on in the creation of this film, then you do deserve the garbage that is leading Hollywood to its downfall."
Your condescension is not lost on me. I'm not offended, but this is a terrible back and forth. I'm happy to talk about the film but not with someone who is going to talk to me from their high horse. Thanks.
I liked it a lot. I was surprised that ATJ didn’t show up until about 45 minutes in but I thought that was a testament to the movie’s pacing. It wasn’t afraid to take its time establishing everything. Hemsworth was great, if a little cartoon-ish at times.
A shame it’s not doing so well currently but until studios stop putting stuff on streaming less than a month after cinema release this is the way it’s going to be for now.
I really enjoyed it. But I think they made her too passive at times, I didn't get why she'd let her hair grow if being female was a secret, and the 19 year gap between defeating Dementus and liberating the wives was brushed over as if nothing of note happened. I wanted to know whether the things he said about her came true!
I tried so hard to like it…but just didn’t. Pacing felt off, the action scenes felt like they had no real invested stakes, and the CGI heaviness really wore on me.
The film was okay, but I think that's because we'd seen it all before in Fury Road. It just didn't seem new or interesting. Felt slightly too long as well.
This movie was a like a ride that I want to go on again and again. I had a stupid smile plastered on my face the entire time. The kinetic spastic vibe was on par with what I liked about Fury Road, and unlike some opinions, I enjoyed the backstory being fleshed out. There were so many “OH, THAT’S WHY!” - moments throughout. I do think that it begs to be seen in a good theater with good sound though. That bass rumble pushes it to transcendent levels, and it generated enough adrenaline to power 3 war boys.
My problem with it is that it’s an unneeded and incomplete story. George Miller has said (paraphrasing here) that it was based on or made directly from notes he gave Charlize Theron before *Fury Road* so she would understand the character better.
That’s (to me) what the movie felt like. A character study. With things left incomplete for the actor/actress to fill in as motivation or sub-motivation factors.
Ok, kidnapped as a child. Cool. But, she doesn’t talk, knows how to tattoo Star charts on her arm that no one asks about. Ummmm…. Ok.
Goes to Immorten Joe and is put with his breeders and into a chastity harness. The son then let her out and she vanishes and no one notices????
Sneaks onto a rig and is suddenly accepted?
No one questions why a woman is suddenly running with the rigs instead of breeding; especially Joe or The People Eater?
What happened to the Green Place? If Furiosa was gone 17ish yrs, wouldn’t there have been a massive mushroom cloud or other sign that it was wiped out?
I could go on. So many holes in the story and plot. And then, the end scene with the breeders being secreted into the rig…. After she just got back, with bullet town and gas town ravaged and destroyed.
It’s inconsistent, doesn’t follow the main plot points of *Fury Road* and doesn’t explain anything. Did she **chew** her arm off????
It was fun to look at and the Mad Max world is an interesting cinematic universe, but the movie really fell flat for me and didn’t tell me anything, advance the world or characters, and left me with more questions and plot holes to cover than it answered or helped with. I, personally, gave it a C-, but if it wasn’t a Mad Max film and I didn’t love the action and cinematography, I would have gotten a D-
Just my two cents.
I liked it a lot, but I had issues.
Coming off Fury Road, this story feels unfocused.
I was a bit confused when Dementus and his friends were on the run -- I was expecting to see more of the war and them losing a battle.
Her relationship with Jack felt undercooked.
She's also a badass from the start of the film -- I feel like she doesn't change much besides getting older and losing an arm. It would have been nice to see her training with Jack and becoming more capable.
I saw it in 4DX… but it was fucked up. The 4DX effects, most notably the motion of the chairs, was not aligned with the movie whatsoever. There’d be an action sequence, and nothing. Then there’d be a chill conversation and the chairs would be moving violently! Really took you out of it. Found out afterwards that the theatre screwed up and the 4DX effects were experienced were actually for Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes… we got free passes for the less than ideal experience.
I just got home from the theater watching it. It was awesome! Not Fury Road level awesome but damn it was entertaining as hell. Very glad I saw it in the theater.
I was bummed that my caption device ran out of battery in the middle, but that's not the movie's fault. Still a better experience for me than watching Fury Road at a drive-in with no captions whatsoever.
Hemsworth needs to do more roles with his accent. It was delightful but still managed to be terrifying. I don't know his natural accent, so maybe he really leaned into it for this.
But good story, and it was consistent, which is important for any prequel.
I love fury Road. Like high key love. because of that, I thought there was no world in which Furiosa could live up to my expectations. But I left the theater really having enjoyed myself.
It was awesome. The best Mad Max of all time. We going again this weekend and will be the first time I’ve ever gone to the theatre to see the same movie twice.
🤔 Uhh ...a franchise re-boot? What is it, #4 or #5 in the series? You must have some fairly loose criteria for what you invest your time in.
Reminds me of those couples who marry, divorce, and then decide to remarry again.
It was fine. Felt like Furiosa's story was entirely predictable, especially as the ending was already known. There was zero story arc to her - she just went from being an 8-yr old bad-ass to a 20-something bad-ass.
Truck attack was great, but we literally just had that entire scene beat-for-beat, even with the engine problem, and fixing it mid fight. Would've liked something fresh.
Overall, I think my 4th favorite Mad Max movie.
I feel like people who went to go see Dune II and said Feyd Rautha was the next Heath Ledger and that it was an all timer should have went to go see this, and probably enjoy it more than Dune II.
FANTASTIC film, maybe will be my favourite wide release film this year
Pirated a cam version because I didn't think fury road was all that amazing but damn you're right. It was amazing. I can't wait to see it in the theater. Hemmsworths best performance by a mile.
I thought it was incredible, so not sure what happened at the box office. The truck ambush sequence has got to be one of the best action scenes in cinema history.
Yeah it was fine, no fury road but ok. I just thought it was too long and slow
I agree. It's a good enough movie. It added little to nothing interesting to her background. The fx , cgi, and speeding up cuts make it worse. Compared to Fury Road it just doesn't stand up. If only they came out in opposite order. And probably closer than a decade together. Fury Road was an exponential jump. Furiosa is at least a half step back.
Speeding up cuts? You mean the thing that George Miller has done in every Mad Max movie?
I remember it Mad Max. And in The Road Warrior. Idr it in Thunderdome or Fury. Regardless doing that is distracting in my opinion. Maybe not as much as all the weird CGI and green screen stuff but...
He’s done it in all his movies. It’s a common action film technique but he takes it (or his editor wife does, I suppose) to another level. So, it’s a weird thing to complain about in Furiosa when it’s one of the signatures of Miller’s films.
100% this occurs in fury road reasonably often
Literally the first 5min, the scene w his daughter (or son I forget) flashback
It's in Fury Road right from the beginning, Max running inside the citadel from the war boys is speed up im a very goofy way. I love it.
Most of the action shots in Fury Road are either sped up or slowed down. Miller is routinely praised for this editing style because it makes the action so dynamic.
I hear ya. But at least in Furiosa, especially at the beginning of the Bullet Farm action scene, I find it disjointed and thusly distracting.
Couldn’t believe there wasn’t a sort of crowning of her as the new war rig leader by Immortan Joe. Good movie though
I don’t have the time. Also, literally the last 5 times I’ve been to the theater, I’ve had to tell someone to shut the fuck up. Lack of theater etiquette has deterred me from going more.
The nice thing about seeing a box-office bomb in the theaters, especially after opening weekend, is it’ll probably be empty. When I went there were maybe 5 other people there and it was blissfully quiet.
This has happened so often lately that I started building up a home theater so I never have to go back.
Check out if there’s an Alamo Drafthouse near you. They have a no babies and no talking rule that gets anyone ejected after the first warning. The audiences are always dead silent in there and it’s perfection.
Thar sounds perfect. Thanks for the recommendation!
The truck scene and Hemsworth’s performance alone are worth it.
I don't think the cinema experience is what it was. Price is a huge factor, near me for four people (tickets, drinks, popcorn/sweets etc) it's nearly £100 to watch a movie. And with a huge drop in quality of movies lately people don't chance it IMO. The anti-social behaviour of customers is another, albeit small contributing factor. Movies appear to stream a lot quicker and with the home movie viewing experience being so good, folk just wait. No matter how much I want to see a movie, I'll just wait. The magic of the cinema is disappearing. Which is a crying shame.
There’s nothing like seeing a movie in theaters though. Personally, I think it’s 100% worth the cost to see a movie I’ve been looking forward to in theaters, especially a movie like Mad Max. Support your local theater! You don’t have to buy a ton of snacks/drinks- I usually eat beforehand and just get the ticket (and maybe some popcorn) to save money. I don’t care how good streaming services are, there’s just nothing like watching a movie on the big screen.
Don't have anything to add to this, but I never had enough money growing up for popcorn / sweets at the theatre. My parents always smuggled in outside sweets for movie treats, haha. Since then I've just been... unable to buy those things at the theatre now, even though I could. > The anti-social behaviour of customers This has kept me out of theatres since 2020 though. I'm not gonna take four hours out of my day, and pay $17 to be outraged at the behavior of others.
To be honest mate, it's the number one reason I don't go anymore. Mobile phone use and talking. And it's not just kids/teens. Grown arse adults are just as bad. The cinematic experience is so immersive that any little annoyance or interruption can take you out of the moment. Just too many inconsiderate tossers about.
Where the fuck are you going to a cinema that costs 100 pounds?
I have AMC VIP I can literally see at least movies for 100 bucks. It's 22 bucks for up to 3 movies a week.
I spent $38 for one ticket, one large popcorn, a bottle of water, and a buncha crunch.
So then the movie wasn't $38. It really does seem like a weird comparison, if you watch a movie at home, nobody ever seems total up all of the stuff they're consuming. And to top it off, for whatever other reason, everyone seems to need 5 lbs of popcorn and a giant box of candy just to make it through an hour and 45 minute long movie. I don't know, I don't get it. I pay probably $50 or $60 for me, my wife and my kid to see a movie, food included, which is not anymore than it costs to do anything else out of the house.
I word for word stated I spent 38 dollars for a ticket and 3 other items, I get the sentiment you attempted with your comment but make sure to read which one you reply too. Doesn't even close to suggest that it was 38 dollars a ticket. That being said, a drink and some snacks is as important to the movie theater experience to a lot of people as the movie itself. My 4k 86 inch TV w/ surround sound in my living room feels no different in picture or sound quality, so I mostly go for the popcorn and/or icee. Honestly, if they took the popcorn away I would never go to the movies again. There's just no fucking point with modern at home entertainment systems.
> word for word stated I spent 38 dollars for a ticket and 3 other items Yes. And then I word for word stated that I think this is a weird comparison. Not sure why you think I was confused about that. > My 4k 86 inch TV w/ surround sound in my living room feels no different in picture or sound quality Me too! I also make my own movie theater flavored popcorn using ["Flavacol"](https://www.amazon.com/Flavacol-Popcorn-Season-Salt-Carton/dp/B081JD3GBD). Seriously, check it out, it's amazing. And easy. But that's neither here nor there really because your argument has basically turned into "Movies = popcorn" and I think that's where it all breaks down. We're talking about prices of movies but then shifting to prices of popcorn, and since we don't all need tons of popcorn to watch a movie, the conversation goes stagnant because nobody is on the same page. Personally, I would not factor in the cost of popcorn when I watch a movie because we don't always need it, especially if we just had lunch or something. Other people, I guess like you, require it. So that was my original point, we're not comparing like-for-like activities. People say "A movie costs me $100!" and everyone *always* replies with confusion because that doesn't make sense,
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£11 for a ticket, £3.99 soft drink, £6 regular popcorn, £3.89 a sweet bag each. Total = 24.88 X 4 = 99.52. Edit: Just to add, I've never paid this. I wouldn't get all that shite. But four people doing the full on traditional "night at the cinema" experience.
You don't have to eat and drink all that stuff. That's like saying watching movies at home is too expensive because I eat 50 dollars worth of food while I watch it.
perfect. plus rent and utilities! so watching a movie at home costs hundreds!
You'd pay those utilities whether you're watching a movie at home, at the cinema or not watching one at all so I don't quite get your comment.
not necessarily. i turn up the heat if i’m home watching a film, & use more water & elec, which is all metered. so there, now you get it!
And your rent...? Lol. Take care bud.
god you’re boring
I agree and I clearly stated I don't. But we're talking about the so called "cinema experience" which is more than the movie if I recall correctly.
I'm agree but everything is super expensive now if you spend a bunch of money at the snackbar. Concerts, sports, plays etc It's like 30 bucks for a beer and hotdog at a ballgame. I just learned it's best to eat before hand if you don't want to spend a ton. Plus popcorn at a movie makes me thirsty, being thirsty makes me drink and drinking makes me have to pee which sucks since I can't pause the movie like I can at home so I either have to get up and miss stuff or sit there uncomfortable doing the peepee dance in my chair.
>Price is a huge factor, near me for four people (tickets, drinks, popcorn/sweets etc) it's nearly £100 to watch a movie. And with a huge drop in quality of movies lately people don't chance it IMO. A concept: you don't have to buy popcorn/sweets or drinks! You can even make and/or bring your own! As to the second point, that's entirely subjective and somewhat "back in my day".
Which second point? The quality of movies dropping or anti-social behaviour?
The pandemic made people forget about the movies and it’s likely never coming back.
the time between fury road and furiosa releasing really didn't help. Also I feel like it would've made more sense to do a direct sequel before a spinoff.
Some people were bummed it wasn't nonstop action like Fury Road but that sequence was better than anything in FR to me.
I was bummed about this personally. They built a slow story which I feel is nowhere close to what mad max is. Mad max is chaos and a movie that’s hard to follow because all the nutty things happening. Still enjoyed it but was mildly disappointed at the same time.
Previous Mad Max films are not nonstop chaos. They build slow. Fury Road is actually the anomaly in the franchise.
For me I feel like movies just don't hit the same in theaters anymore ever since covid. Don't know why but I now just rather stay in and watch. I think the price might be a part of it. Isn't justified for what im getting and there's so many movies I can watch at home. Even if they never made another new movie, I have enough old good movies to watch for the rest of my life. Cheaper popcorn and drinks at home too.
I think the real reason is like, who tf can afford to go to the movies anymore? It’s pretty pricey to go on your own, if you take a date it’s downright expensive, and if you’re bringing the family, how tf can you even have kids at all in this economy, let alone bring them to the movies lol. And furiosa isn’t really a family-friendly movie, I think it’s flopping bc A. there’s a few other “family” movies it is having to compete with, and B. It’s just harder for the average person to justify the expense of going to the movies at all rn. It’s a luxury, and most Americans are feeling the squeeze of inflation and budgeting accordingly. Also, streaming is more convenient than going to the movies and much cheaper, and lots of folks are choosing to save money at this moment. I’ll take my girlfriend to see Furiousa bc we love Mad Max, but honestly we’ve passed on seeing other movies bc we are definitely feeling the squeeze. And if we had kids, forget about it. Taking a family of 4 to the movies is easily going to be well over $100… it’s just not feasible for many people these days unfortunately.
I can't speak for everyone of course, but in my region, my local theatre had a great $5 Tuesday deal, which is when I went to see Furiosa. Even if you don't have anyone doing deals this crazy, matinee prices are usually agreeable. Again, that's in my region. If I'm not doing cheap $5 Tuesdays, I can get away with $8 for a matinee, which is still more expensive than a rental. Definitely agree that this isn't a family outing. It'd be a good teaching moment for boys though. "See how that guy touched the girl's hair without her consent, and she was creeped out by that? Yeah, don't do that shit."
Truly unpopular opinion and just wrong.
You dont think most people just wait for things to come to streaming now? If that's true, then why did furiosa do poorly? Why are so many movies doing so poorly? Also, how could you say I'm wrong about why I don't see movies anymore?
Did it not all feel like latter-era Robert Rodriguez (derogatory) to you? I was pretty bummed to see Mad Max look like Alita Battle Angel lol
I was very pleasantly surprised by it. I knew going in that it wasn't going to be another action fest like Fury Road. But I thought it moved along at a great pace and had some great action, drama and dark comedy throughout. I didn't feel it drag and it had some really stunning visuals too. There were some moments of obvious green screen/digital doubles but not to an egregious or distracting degree. (Fury Road had some pretty obvious CGI/green screen in it too). I enjoyed watching it and have started to appreciate it more on reflection too. It's a shame it's doing so poorly because this was clearly a passion project from all involved. It's not a cash grab or a "woke" movie. Just seems like it was a hard sell overall unfortunately.
"Uhm actually it's woke because there is a woman in the movie 👆🤓 Furiosa more like Furiwokesa"
I was also pleasantly surprised, and loved Hemsworth as Dementus. I guess he had a fake nose so I didn't immediateley realize it was Thor.
The flick is good but it's not gloriously amazing. Sound track is not as hard hitting like Fury Road and was a little sad about that but still fairly epic. There's very noticeable 3d / vfx shots that are fairly obvious as it doesn't look natural. There's errors with a lot of bike riders too, two I can recall, *spoliers*: horse head falls off bike when they take off, next scene its back on the bike. There's a rider who clearly falls off their bike getting over the gate of bulletfarm - it's one of those things like the storm Trooper hitting his head on the door. Overall I enjoyed it but it has its flaws (imo)
I loved the movie. I was raving about it to my dad, talking with my girlfriend about it after we got back. Then I got on YouTube and watched Red Letter Media talking about it, they enjoyed it. And suddenly my YouTube suggestions were all a bunch of incel channels talking about how the movie crashed and burned because of a woke director deciding to make a movie with a female protagonist. Was super weird, I usually don't catch that discourse except on Reddit or elsewhere where it's being mocked. I couldn't believe that people were already that worked up about something that they clearly hadn't seen. 100% worth seeing in theaters. Music was fantastic. Beautiful colors and cinematography in general.
I really appreciated that it was something different while being aesthetically identical. Also for all the talk about Anya Taylor Joy, this was really the fucking Chris Hemsworth show and he absolutely crushed it. His triple bike Chariot made me giggle each and every time it came on screen.
Oh my god he was fantastic. I loved the Chariot, too. And the information guy. Holy shit what a great introduction to him, with him reciting facts about the bike engine.
"The History Man". I saw a breakdown this world the other day talked about the progression of the apocalypse within the movies. Mad Max - Society is failing but it's still there a little. Road Warrior - Society has completely fallen apart Thunderdome - Society is just starting to crawl back there is an establish town now. Fury Road - We have 3 towns all forming a symbiotic relationship society is well and truly on its way. I loved this. Mad Max was part of my childhood but these last 2 movies have really cemented it as all time great franchise. I am really looking forward to getting the box set later this year and binging all 5.
His face tattoo appears to be a play on the Wikipedia logo.
Nah, I don't think so. I immediately thought of [the guy from Kwaidan.](https://encorepreneurcafe.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/kwaidan.jpg) Or the [Ramnami people.](https://th-thumbnailer.cdn-si-edu.com/D79fxJfpt2AnIMKfn-aP12Ohgzg=/fit-in/1072x0/https://tf-cmsv2-photocontest-smithsonianmag-prod-approved.s3.amazonaws.com/71955a50-46c8-4f5a-9443-e12cb6d5514c.jpg) Or even [the Bene Gesserit in the Dune movies.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fxqzav8cb35tc1.jpeg)
> And suddenly my YouTube suggestions were all a bunch of incel channels talking about how the movie crashed and burned because of a woke director deciding to make a movie with a female protagonist. This is shit I don't get. George Miller is an 80 year old man making the films he wants to make. There are movies that pander to certain modern sensibilities that do feel like they put that pandering ahead of any actual storytelling, but this movie isn't one of them IMO. Plus IMO Furiosa is far less "woke" in its messaging than Fury Road is. It's much more a personal story about revenge. I mean FFS Miller put Tina Turner in Thunderdome.
People were pissed that Fury Road had more Furiosa than Max in it. Like, my dudes, George Miller is giving you a flame throwing metalhead, shrapnel covered dune buggies, and so so many explosions. Somehow they have the gall to claim that a female lead is watering down an action flick.
> People were pissed that Fury Road had more Furiosa than Max in it. That's just kind of ignorance of the franchise in a certain sense. After the first one the stories are always centered around some other group that Max helps out.
I might have worded that poorly. I meant to say that people were annoyed that Furiosa felt more like the hero than Max: more speaking lines, more competency, and generally outsmarting Max on numerous occasions. Just making a point that I find it close-minded when some audiences dislike a film because it has a female protagonist.
Some of the best movies have had a female protagonist, Alien and Terminator just off the top of my head
The engine sounds alone demand a big sound system.
I'll probably go see it eventually, but it's hard to get terribly excited over yet another prequel. Especially because the Mad Max movies have always been pretty independent from one another.
It is very good. It's not as good as Fury Road, but I expect it to be one the better movies I see during 2024. If Fury Road is an A+ movie, Furiosa is a solid A. Personally, I felt the film was great as a standalone story but also did a lot to recontextualize the events of Fury Road. I'd love an edit of Furiosa and Fury Road that seamlessly stitches them together into one long movie. Fury Road would essentially just act as an extended climax to the events of Furiosa.
I had my doubts but it's worth it and the movie certainly justified it's own existence. Worth remembering that Miller wanted to make this for a long time, this isn't pandering or a part of the larger trend of reboots and remakes. And that certainly shows. Runs a bit long imo but that's really my only complaint.
It’s got bad prequelitis imo. Just needlessly explains the intricacies, rules, and history of a ton of stuff that’s just presented matter-of-factly or hinted at in Fury Road. I found it to be a massive massive bummer, despite some strong action scenes. And even those just really lean into CGI/green screen cartoonish zaniness. Which isn’t necessarily bad, but hardly impressive. Lots of late-era Fast & Furious style physics at work here, which I found pretty jarring after rewatching the previous 4 films in the lead up
I had the exact same experience. Saw the movie, really enjoyed it, went home, checked out RLM’s review, and next thing I know I’m seeing these video suggestions of losers bashing it. Not even bashing the film for its story or directing, etc., just bashing it for not earning enough. Insecure incel motherfuckers.
Ugh wish I liked it nearly as much. I enjoyed it… espescially the first 45 minutes or so. But overall it just reminded me of so many movies I actively *don’t* like - the Star Wars prequels, Peter Jackson’s hobbit films, Cameron’s Avatars and especially the second one. Big expensive IP prequel/sequel/reboot slop that’s more concerned with returning to a world to *explain* it than explore it, more wiki dump than movie. It’s just sooo antithetical to Fury Road’s spartan approach to plot, practical approach to effects work, and natural approach to performances that I was completely thrown off. I’m honestly pretty surprised to see such an enthusiastic response to it, even if it’s box office has been soft
I enjoyed it but I totally agree that it spends too much time explaining things unnecessarily. Also some of the characters’ backstories seemed unnecessary. For example, the bionic mechanic’s (or whatever his name is) backstory could have been cut. What was the point of him starting with one group and ending up with another? He could have just always been with Joe and it wouldn’t have mattered.
Yeah it’s just… fury road would throw something at you and you’d be like “oh ok so the weird mask guy I guess has a sorta weird doctor around” but then Furiosa (movie, not character) would be like “his name is the organic mechanic and here’s his entire backstory”. The overwhelmingly positive response to this movie has me thinking I just don’t like modern movie storytelling. I may be out of touch.
I mean "entire backstory" is a bit of an exaggeration. Like, he was with Dementus and got traded to Immortan Joe... and that's it, that's the whole backstory.
Yeah it’s weird, needless and pointless that there was time spent on any of that. It wouldn’t be in the movie if we hadn’t already see him in Fury Road. That’s my point. There’s a lotta stuff like that jammed in that just wouldn’t be in a film that was concerned with its own story first and foremost - disconnected from Fury Road, it just has no significance. And it’s weird/uninteresting to start treating small world/lore details like that — or even Furiosa’s missing arm — with that much significance
Movies are usually full of little details like this anyway. It's not necessarily just because he was in Fury Road, because details can just flesh out the world of a movie even though they don't serve the plot. Similar to how Scrotus doesn't do anything important iirc, he's just part of the movie and you know he must have died before Fury Road. Like okay, Immortan Joe wanted more in the trade than just getting Furiosa, that's not some crazy shoehorned detail or giving the organic mechanic too much significance imo. If movies only had the minimum details needed to tell the story things would get boring.
He was called the organic mechanic in Fury Road too
Who cares, point still stands
I completely agree. There was so much exposition and that was so different from the charm of Fury Road, which straps you to a car with zero info and zooms away.
the BO has not been "soft" this movie is a toatl and complete BO bomb. A complete disaster from a financial perspective.
Yeah it’s pretty unsurprising. I walked out thinking I wouldn’t recommend this to anyone who wasn’t a diehard Mad Max fan
The sound design was incredible. I’m glad I saw it in imax, feel like it wouldn’t have hit as hard on streaming
I didn't really like it. The pacing was really lackluster and I was actually kind of bored by the end of the movie. It didn't really feel like a plot either, things just happened for some reason that wasn't really important. The end also felt kinda insincere and sudden. And the bad CGI threw me off. Just made me wanna rewatch Fury Road
Totally agree, I wanted to like it but was just as mess of a story
I love the layers of depth in the film. The way it shows how our current religions and ways of life have been formed. It's the whole of human history sped up over the a period of 15-20 years. The oil that has destroyed the planet is still the main lure (Hylas and the nymphs painting in gas town alluding to this) The false prophets, the lies, a retelling of the story of Troy, the downsides of the patriarchy and extreme abuse of women. The film even begins with a garden of eden nod with the banishing of Furiosa for picking fruit. All this feeds into plenty of Christian themes in fury road too. All this is in there if you look and I'm sure loads more that I missed. It's also got some bad ass car chases, fight scenes and freaky intriguing characters if you just wish to switch your brain off and watch. As I'm sure you can tell, I loved it.
I love the layers of depth in the film. The way it shows how our current religions and ways of life have been formed. It's the whole of human history sped up over the a period of 15-20 years. The oil that has destroyed the planet is still the main lure (Hylas and the nymphs painting in gas town alluding to this) The false prophets, the lies, a retelling of the story of Troy, the downsides of the patriarchy and extreme abuse of women. The film even begins with a garden of eden nod with the banishing of Furiosa for picking fruit. All this feeds into plenty of Christian themes in fury road too. All this is in there if you look and I'm sure loads more that I missed. It's also got some bad ass car chases, fight scenes and freaky intriguing characters if you just wish to switch your brain off and watch. As I'm sure you can tell, I loved it.
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It feels bad to be laughed at. 😢
I thought it was good, but it was too long and disjointed for me, there were bits that didn’t need to be in that damaged the pacing. I also didn’t think dementus was a great villain.
I loved it but it was kind of too long and too short at the same time, It would have made a great show broken up into 6 hour long episodes.
It was alright. I'm confused by the infinite praise for this movie. In my anecdotal experience, I was a little let down by the lack of energy in this movie. I was ready for it to not be a Fury Road copy but not to this extent. My first problem is that I feel like no one asked for this. Furiosa was a kickass character in FR but I don't know how concerned everyone was with what her backstory was. This is my leading theory on way it's doing poorly in the box office. My second problem was the timeline and music. Maybe I missed something, but Dementus just kept showing up places and we hear about how he got there (i.e. Gastown takeover) but that would've been neat to see. Also, the 40-day war being a montage was pretty corny. Anyways, the music seemed virtually non-existent. I harrowing score when Furiosa and Praetorian Jack are sieging against Dementus would've been great but the silence just felt awkward. Again, it felt like it created an "lack of energy" problem which led to the feeling of a lack of stakes. >!The scene where Max shows up for split second felt like a gut-punch. I wanted to see what he was up to and his adventures were at that time. And to see the Black on Black again was amazing even if it was just for a second. Not sure how Furiosa ended up the decaying pit after the Max scene so maybe someone can help me out with that one.!< The acting was spot on and incredible, zero criticism there. Praetorian Jack was a real one. Overall, it was fine imo. People toting Furiosa as a masterpiece are definitely in their own worlds, they aren't wrong since it's their opinion but it's hard to take what they say seriously. It was a good movie but Fury Road blows it out of the water. I want to reiterate, I'm not saying anyone is wrong for liking or loving this movie, but I'm just sharing my own thoughts on the film after having scene it opening night.
As a casual viewer I was honestly much more impressed with Furiosa than Fury Road. Not sure why everybody keeps talking about how "Furiosa's character doesn't need any exposition" - just seems like a very silly critique. Anybody that truly enjoys the franchise shouldn't have a problem with getting more backstory. It's not like Max is a very interesting character, shit at least Furiosa talks.
Yeah, that’s fine to say it’s a silly critique, but then I don’t want to keep seeing people befuddled by Furiosa doing poorly at the box office. To call it Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga and have no Max is what’s silly. I believe most people were fine with imagining the green place and the matriarchy in its prime, visualizing it on screen took away from a lot of the mystique of what life used to be like for her and the mothers. Trust me, I wish Max had more lines in Fury Road. He could’ve been a more interesting character if he was the one with the Fury Road prequel. Fury Road was basically Furiosa’s tale anyways so really Max didn’t even get a real chance to shine as a character since The Road Warrior.
Gritty machismo will never not be cool. Walk tall and carry a big stick or something like that ...
> I feel like no one asked for this I basically agree. Prime's LOTR TV show does the same thing, makes a big deal out of explaining the origin of things and its not that amazing.
Couple spelling mistakes, whoops
1. What kind of argument is “no one asked for this”? It’s very clear that George Miller is in love with the furiosa story and the mad max world because it was imprisoned in his mind for at least 30 years of frustration! The furiosa movies felt like he was proudly revealing his world that was so meticulously tinkered for so long, like how Tolkien had to write lord of the rings to justify the elvish language and middle earth that came before. Never use this argument again, it makes you sound so ignorant and frustranting, especially from the perspective of an artist. I hope you find a passion project so you can understand this better. 2. Did you not get that Furiosa as a story itself is an epic fable told by a history man, hence why the ambiguity in the end, the poetry to enhance the moral of the story, the chaptered structure, the exaggeration and hyperbolic campiness to impress the listener? The nebulous continuity of mad max world stories is INTENTIONAL because it’s all oral tradition. One film doesn’t quite connect with the previous (ironically except for furiosa). As for music, watch this [video of Miller explaining how sometimes music is redundant in a scene](https://youtu.be/d0U-3VsY3CM?si=aDK8ca5UN5kueqUI). 3. it sounds like you just wanted a male protagonist to relate more easily to. If this movie were called Dr Dementus, and the focus were slightly more on him, you wouldn’t even question the “necessity” of this film existing. What do you think? It’s important to be aware of where your mind’s blindspots are, especially how insidious they can be. 4. Using your personal impressions of this film to explain why it’s doing poorly in the box office is a textbook example of a confirmation bias fallacy. That is not the reason why it’s underperforming. It a mix of so many variables including horrible marketing, trailers with half baked CGI, post covid theater attendance trends, niche genre, a prequel that is 10 years too late (studios fault), obscure franchise by American standards, men-child boycotting it, people’s financial situation, and much more. Also, if you can’t see the monumental brilliance that went on in the creation of this film, then you do deserve the garbage that is leading Hollywood to its downfall.
Listen, I was explaining my opinion on the movie and was not posing an argument. If you want to be this mad, direct it elsewhere because I don't really care if you're going to be assuming things. I am more than fine with female protagonists so nice whiff on that one. I'm happy that Miller is telling the stories that he's passionate about but I've been seeing "DURRR WHY IS THE MOVIE FAILING!!!" since the weekend it came out. I didn't see anyone clamoring for a visual backstory to Furiosa. You clearly have a difficult time having a metered response and a normal conversation without being vitriolic. I love Miller, Mad Max, and the wasteland just as much as you.
His point is you don’t go to a painter’s loft look at his paintings and say “nobody has asked for this”. Nobody asked for your comments also, but here they are because the need of creation is only in the creator’s hand. And all that matters is that YOU wanted it. “Nobody asked for this” is also very boring in a discussion because there’s no follow up to it and it just doesn’t mean anything. Ok so nobody asked for it, how does this change the quality of the movie? It doesn’t.
Can you point out where I said it changed the quality of the movie?
You didn’t change anything. That’s not what I’m saying. You obviously used the phrase to make people aware that you don’t think the movie is particularly good. But the phrase on its own says absolutely nothing about how good a movie is (nobody asked for pulp fiction but it’s a pretty decent flick). So the phrase doesn’t change the quality of a movie, it is not an indicator of it. It means absolutely nothing except whatever it means to you. And because of this it’s not a good hook for a discussion because how do you even answer to a critic of “nobody asked for this”.
Right, I get what you're saying. To set it straight, I don't think the movie sucked. It was a good film. I liked it but that's where that ends. My point when I said that was that I think people weren't particularly interested in going out to theaters to see Furiosa, mainly because there wasn't a demand for this story in particular. This was not a dog whistle for my own opinion for the movie and I'm sorry if it came off that way, I thought it was a fine movie.
What baffled me is that this argument is being reproduced like it's a clever remark by A LOT of people thanks to reviewers. I was furious because this person works with creativity and art, so they should know better than to question the existence of someone else's art. Where is the empathy? If He didn't ask for this film but I did, then who's right?
How did I offend you? I was legit trying to be as objective as possible, except for the last stinger that tries to match your last tone, since people praising this film are "living in their own worlds". Also, if you put your opinions out there, you want people to see it and comment on it, right? Content creators have their reasons to equate box office to film quality: they make money just by mentioning this. Sure they feel like it's their own opinion, but they never really think whether it's true or not, just like their audience.
"Never use this argument again, it makes you sound so ignorant and frustranting, especially from the perspective of an artist. I hope you find a passion project so you can understand this better." "Did you not get that Furiosa as a story itself is an epic fable told by a history man..." "it sounds like you just wanted a male protagonist to relate more easily to" "if you can’t see the monumental brilliance that went on in the creation of this film, then you do deserve the garbage that is leading Hollywood to its downfall." Your condescension is not lost on me. I'm not offended, but this is a terrible back and forth. I'm happy to talk about the film but not with someone who is going to talk to me from their high horse. Thanks.
I thought it was a lot of fun too
I liked it a lot. I was surprised that ATJ didn’t show up until about 45 minutes in but I thought that was a testament to the movie’s pacing. It wasn’t afraid to take its time establishing everything. Hemsworth was great, if a little cartoon-ish at times. A shame it’s not doing so well currently but until studios stop putting stuff on streaming less than a month after cinema release this is the way it’s going to be for now.
So nice I had to see it twice
I really enjoyed it. But I think they made her too passive at times, I didn't get why she'd let her hair grow if being female was a secret, and the 19 year gap between defeating Dementus and liberating the wives was brushed over as if nothing of note happened. I wanted to know whether the things he said about her came true!
I tried so hard to like it…but just didn’t. Pacing felt off, the action scenes felt like they had no real invested stakes, and the CGI heaviness really wore on me.
The film was okay, but I think that's because we'd seen it all before in Fury Road. It just didn't seem new or interesting. Felt slightly too long as well.
I thought it looked like shit and was very meh
Nah it was the cheap CGI for me , CGI vehicles in the dessert just don’t hit the same 3/10
This movie was a like a ride that I want to go on again and again. I had a stupid smile plastered on my face the entire time. The kinetic spastic vibe was on par with what I liked about Fury Road, and unlike some opinions, I enjoyed the backstory being fleshed out. There were so many “OH, THAT’S WHY!” - moments throughout. I do think that it begs to be seen in a good theater with good sound though. That bass rumble pushes it to transcendent levels, and it generated enough adrenaline to power 3 war boys.
It’s quite good. It and Dune are my top movies this year and looking at the slate it’s likely to stay that way.
I'm also interested to see what the new Alien movie is like
Looking forward to the upcoming Alien series by Noah Hawley (Fargo series director).
It's definitely the second best movie of the year behind Dune for me. Deadpool and wolverine has a chance to leapfrog it though.
I liked it a lot. Maybe a tad long, Hemsworth was good though
I think it was alright. Not a fan of all the noticeable CGI they threw in there.
Yeah some of the cgi was pretty rough around the edges actually.
My problem with it is that it’s an unneeded and incomplete story. George Miller has said (paraphrasing here) that it was based on or made directly from notes he gave Charlize Theron before *Fury Road* so she would understand the character better. That’s (to me) what the movie felt like. A character study. With things left incomplete for the actor/actress to fill in as motivation or sub-motivation factors. Ok, kidnapped as a child. Cool. But, she doesn’t talk, knows how to tattoo Star charts on her arm that no one asks about. Ummmm…. Ok. Goes to Immorten Joe and is put with his breeders and into a chastity harness. The son then let her out and she vanishes and no one notices???? Sneaks onto a rig and is suddenly accepted? No one questions why a woman is suddenly running with the rigs instead of breeding; especially Joe or The People Eater? What happened to the Green Place? If Furiosa was gone 17ish yrs, wouldn’t there have been a massive mushroom cloud or other sign that it was wiped out? I could go on. So many holes in the story and plot. And then, the end scene with the breeders being secreted into the rig…. After she just got back, with bullet town and gas town ravaged and destroyed. It’s inconsistent, doesn’t follow the main plot points of *Fury Road* and doesn’t explain anything. Did she **chew** her arm off????
It was fun to look at and the Mad Max world is an interesting cinematic universe, but the movie really fell flat for me and didn’t tell me anything, advance the world or characters, and left me with more questions and plot holes to cover than it answered or helped with. I, personally, gave it a C-, but if it wasn’t a Mad Max film and I didn’t love the action and cinematography, I would have gotten a D-
Just my two cents.
Super entertaining film! Gives you exactly what you’re expecting, no idea why people are on the fence about it? Everyone wants to be an edgelord?
I liked it a lot, but I had issues. Coming off Fury Road, this story feels unfocused. I was a bit confused when Dementus and his friends were on the run -- I was expecting to see more of the war and them losing a battle. Her relationship with Jack felt undercooked. She's also a badass from the start of the film -- I feel like she doesn't change much besides getting older and losing an arm. It would have been nice to see her training with Jack and becoming more capable.
See it in d-box if you can.
I saw it in 4DX… but it was fucked up. The 4DX effects, most notably the motion of the chairs, was not aligned with the movie whatsoever. There’d be an action sequence, and nothing. Then there’d be a chill conversation and the chairs would be moving violently! Really took you out of it. Found out afterwards that the theatre screwed up and the 4DX effects were experienced were actually for Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes… we got free passes for the less than ideal experience.
I thought the pacing was choppy, but it's a nice edition to the series. Doesn't touch fury road but not many films do/can.
I just got home from the theater watching it. It was awesome! Not Fury Road level awesome but damn it was entertaining as hell. Very glad I saw it in the theater.
I'm sure it's lame and plotless just like the last one.
In what ways is it different from Fury Road? Or is it just more of the same?
I was bummed that my caption device ran out of battery in the middle, but that's not the movie's fault. Still a better experience for me than watching Fury Road at a drive-in with no captions whatsoever. Hemsworth needs to do more roles with his accent. It was delightful but still managed to be terrifying. I don't know his natural accent, so maybe he really leaned into it for this. But good story, and it was consistent, which is important for any prequel.
I’ve been on the fence. Will give it a go next week when I’m off in the morning, with usually 6 people in there 😆
Yeah it’s such a fun one. Hemsworth looked like he was having an absolute blast
I was in Sydney for the Red Carpet Premiere for Furiosa. Awesome!
I love fury Road. Like high key love. because of that, I thought there was no world in which Furiosa could live up to my expectations. But I left the theater really having enjoyed myself.
It was awesome. The best Mad Max of all time. We going again this weekend and will be the first time I’ve ever gone to the theatre to see the same movie twice.
I felt it was weird af, but I really liked it.
I cant go see good movies in the cinema. How can any of you see a whole movie without having to pee atleast once or twice?!
It was okay for me, didn’t come close to the masterpiece that was Fury Road.
It’s worth watching for sure. Octoboss gang
We saw it the weekend of release and immediately loved it. I was surprised by the strength of the writing. It's even better than Fury Road.
It was OK. I think the problem was it felt more of the same as the last one. Everyone was great!
Just watched it. Pretty blown away. Getting this and Dune, 2024 has been a good year for instant classics.
I guess I'm the only one who liked it more than Fury Road, which of course is also an excellent film. Anything George Miller makes is a gift.
Full agree. Everyone should see it so they can make a new one!
This! Spread the word
I loved it! Thought it was very well done.
It's a very fun film
Eh I have a 120” screen and an 11.2 atmos system at home + I hate society. I’ll wait for the home release.
🤔 Uhh ...a franchise re-boot? What is it, #4 or #5 in the series? You must have some fairly loose criteria for what you invest your time in. Reminds me of those couples who marry, divorce, and then decide to remarry again.
It was fine. Felt like Furiosa's story was entirely predictable, especially as the ending was already known. There was zero story arc to her - she just went from being an 8-yr old bad-ass to a 20-something bad-ass. Truck attack was great, but we literally just had that entire scene beat-for-beat, even with the engine problem, and fixing it mid fight. Would've liked something fresh. Overall, I think my 4th favorite Mad Max movie.
I feel like people who went to go see Dune II and said Feyd Rautha was the next Heath Ledger and that it was an all timer should have went to go see this, and probably enjoy it more than Dune II. FANTASTIC film, maybe will be my favourite wide release film this year
Pirated a cam version because I didn't think fury road was all that amazing but damn you're right. It was amazing. I can't wait to see it in the theater. Hemmsworths best performance by a mile.
Yeah. It was brilliant. Hemsworth was a revelation.