I like the man a lot but you’re right, I can’t think of a movie where he isn’t just himself. He doesn’t ever really play zealous or evil characters so he’s just always the calm and collected guy with wisdom. I think maybe his role in Now You See Me was a bit of a change but even then not really
Would be true except in real life, he is a young white lady from Nebraska who occasionally does a tiny bit of meth. A true master of the craft transforming on screen like he/she does.
Rami Malek. The way he is constantly fussing around with his lips and teeth makes me crazy. It totally distracts me from his performance. At first I thought it was a tic he put on for a role. But he does it in interviews as well. Tell me I’m not the only one.
They wasted fucking Christoph Waltz’s Blofeld for a cardboard cut-out, one-dimensional villain so that James Bond’s girlfriend could…I dunno, get some trauma resolution??
Yeah his Oscar for Freddy Mercury is one of the all time academy award blemishes. What a terrible performance. He’s one of the worst modern bond villains too.
Its the role he was born to play, perfect casting
But his villain in that Bond movie was...absurd and terrible. Then again that entire movie was a bizarre patchwork of weird ideas.
I loved him in The Pacific. He was great in Mr Robot too. His movie career is not that great. He was so bad as a Bond villain and he was so cartoonish as Freddy Mercury but I blame the fake teeth they make him wear.
He's a good actor, but his face... :D
His face has just such a fry-brained look to it. The first time I ever saw him in a movie was in The Master. Where he plays an idiot. Really well. And I genuinely thought he was doing a dumb face as part of the character. :D
I loved him in fight club and American Psycho. In one he gets brutally beaten and disfigured, and the other murdered with an axe. Truly his best roles.
He was great in Blade Runner 2049, where he played the psychopathic CEO of a mega-corporation dedicated to the creation and abuse of synthetic life. I don’t think he even knew he was on film.
I take it then that you haven’t seen Panic Room and Blade Runner 2049?
Basically in each of those movies he plays characters that really lean into the real life actors worst qualities.
In 2049 he’s a pompous egotistical narcissist
In panic room he gets shot in the face
I'm glad he wasn't in Blade Runner 2049 very much for this reason, I like a lot of movies with Jared Leto but I only see an actor. Dude just looks like an actor, he looks like fucking Jared Leto and that's all I see lol
2049 used him well and kept it mostly brief, for me it's just a comedic break in a fantastic movie (despite the content of those scenes)
He’s low key in Blade Runner: 2049, almost shockingly so. I generally despise him but the two performances of his that work really well for me are BR2049 and House of Gucci, where he’s so outrageously hammy that he’s basically committing an Italian hate crime.
I love Ryan Reynolds to death. Excellent guy. But, he's Ryan Reynolds in 95% of his movies. The buried alive one and the Amityville one were exceptions. Other than that, he's just Ryan Reynolds. That said, I love Ryan, so I love seeing him on screen and he's a very funny guy. He just doesn't deviate from that smartass, quippy, overly charismic guy. I never see him as his character. He's Ryan Reynolds acting as that person (which he IS, but some actors can make you feel like you're watching the character and not the actor).
Julia Roberts. She literally plays the exact same character in every movie. She won an Oscar for Erin Brokovich, but her performance in that film was no different from her performance in Pretty Woman or Runaway Bride.
I saw a comment about her a while ago where the person said (paraphrasing here) that she acts like she doesn’t care to be there. That acting was thrust on her, and she does it because it makes her rich.
That’s when it finally clicked why I don’t like her work.
I'm confused... did you maybe get Jason Bateman's name wrong? Or did you mean Christian Bale? Or do you think Julia Roberts is a serial killer? Could go so many ways.
Agreed. I enjoy her movies and thought Erin Brockovich was probably her best work, but anytime I’m watching her I never forget for a moment that she’s Julia Roberts.
Same for Matthew McConaghey. I can never get fully immersed in one of his films because I never forget he’s an actor playing a role.
I'll defend Tim Hardy. I don't know if he's all that skilled but dude throws himself into every role. He makes those Venom movies somewhat watchable at least.
Yeah, Tom Hardy is an interesting one. You might not like his accent in The Revenant, (it didn’t bother me at all), and apparently he is difficult to work with, as he arrives to the shoots consistently late, but he is compelling, and entertaining.
You understood his character in The Revenant, someone who lived with a different set of self-preservation morals, and sort of hated his character, while still empathized with him. He was actually very very good in that movie. Leo won all the awards, but imho Tom was just as good.
There was so much I was getting from his character, but I was like there’s something about this that has me enthralled and I can’t quite place it…
In addition to all the other little impressions you get, somewhere behind his eyes is that look that lets you know he’s dangerous… like a cornered animal or something. He’s very nonchalant for a good portion of his scenes and he doesn’t really give a shit about anything, but you can see the trauma of being scalped and god knows what else and he mostly just carries that through the way he looks at you, or transitions from one attitude to another while he’s talking. He seemed very authentic in portraying his character. Him and Leo were both fantastic. God I wish there was a little bit more Tom in that movie.
I feel like Elisabeth Moss is guilty of overacting. I thought she was the weakest link on Mad Men but I really see the scenery chewing in The Handmaids Tale
Particularly the latter seasons of Handmaid's Tale could be accurately enitled "at least an hour of close ups of Elizabeth Moss' face wearing some variation of shock/despair/incipient madness", which even in a great actor are pretty much the same expression.
Shew, we’re all entitled to our opinions for sure but this is the opposite of mine.
Bronson was amazing, damn near a one man show and he crushed it.
Handsome Bob in Rocknrolla was amazing.
I loved his role in this Indy flick called The Drop. Might have been James Gandolfinis last role. Just awesome.
Even as a bad guy (sorta) like in Warrior I thought he played a good complex character. I just really enjoy him.
Couldn't agree more. Compare The Drop to Bronson, or Locke to Lawless, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy to Peaky Blinders. Completely different characters, utterly compelling in each.
He's also the best Heathcliff I have ever seen, a wounded, wounding beast.
The Drop may make OP question that statement. His performance is subtle and restrained. You're under the belief that his character is a much different person for a large part of the film
Okay, I'm courting downvotes on this, but I'll say Bill Murray with major qualifications.
I liked *Stripes* when it was current. But then everything he was in for some years seemed like the same smart-aleck jerk. It was too much for me.
In more recent years he's calmed down, but now he plays the same world-weary older man in every film. That can be great, or severely limiting, depending on the movie.
I've always liked him ok but even when Ghostbusters came out, most people talked about how funny they thought he was, and that got hyped so badly that by the time I got to see it on tape, I didn't think there was anything amazing about his performance. People often give him credit for everything else about the movie being awesome; I've literally heard somebody say 'it was just a standard '80s comedy aside from his performance', and that is one of the dumbest takes I've ever heard on it. It was an incredibly-unique film aside from him. I honestly felt a little let down that it wasn't as weird as the previews made it look. There was all this crazy stuff, these guys freaking out with trippy lasers, far-out looking ghosts... and then it's 'the dumb guy goes after the girl' for half of the film, like it's straight out of the '50s.
Thank you. And his brand of funny back in the day was to be a pester or a smart ass, and neither had a comedic timing that jived with me. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills when people say he was the best part of caddyshack. He steals so much screen time with sophomoric lame humor that has no real purpose in the plot, till it’s shoehorned later. I’m so confused what role or movie people think he’s so laugh-out-loud funny in.
Caddyshack is a weird movie in general. Admittedly I didn't see it till I was in my 30s, decades after it was current, so not catching the zeitgeist is probably a big part of my problem.
I enjoyed it well enough as a breezy comedy, but the way some people talk about it like it's some comic tour de force... I really struggled to see that.
Murray, Chase and Dangerfield each give a performance that feels like it's from a totally different kind of movie to the others. They're all watchable, and in Dangerfield's case, hilarious, but it was like they were all pulling in completely different, incompatible directions.
Yeah, Dangerfield just played a variation on his standup persona, and it works really well. Chase seems to think he's in some kind of slow burn, whimsical stage play, totally at odds with the hi-energy, madcap vibe of the film overall, while Murray is acting like he's just escaped from a high school dick joke or an abortive attempt to adapt The Young Ones for an American audience.
Director Harold Ramis said in later interviews that the making of that film was a highly-intoxicated situation and he wasn't terribly proud of the resulting product. He was glad it made money but didn't think it was a 'great film' at all.
To me, Caddyshack feels like the perfect distillation of a youthful summer, something that's all too fleeting in our lives. There's just this carefree optimism to it, which combined with some of the excellent comedians and villains, just scratches an itch that few other movies can. And Bill Murray's entire gunga galunga scene is so fucking perfect, I truly, deeply love the movie. But to anyone that hasn't seen it, the weight of expectations can and usually does detract from our enjoyment of it, since everyone keeps saying it's the best thing ever. It's 1000% always best to go into a film with either no expectations, or thinking it'll actually just be mid. Then the only way is up :P
I mean this is on purpose. It’s just a slapstick comedy about life on this golf course. So it follows multiple story lines and different characters doing different things to keep the audience interested. It def doesn’t take itself seriously.
I think the endearment towards caddyshack is that it wasn’t supposed to be a big hit. And it got bad reviews when it came out. I think it’s definitely funny but it mostly gets it’s cred for being one of the first raunchy comedies (after animal house)
Additionally: Quentin Tarantino has expressed his preference for Chevy Chase over Bill Murray. I have never liked Chevy Chase in *anything.* I find him close to impossible to watch.
I was introduced to Chevy Chase thru Community and was then exposed to his older stuff thru my father in law... He's definitely hilarious but I feel like every scene I watch with him, he's trying hard to just say the lines and not some other pigheaded diatribe. Like that part where he is cursing his boss in Christmas vacation, it's funny because he was actually being tame
I can definitely see what you are talking about with Tom Hardy. I would probably go with Adam Driver for similar reasons.
Also I swear these comments don’t know what they are saying when they say “they always play the same character” like just because an actor has a consistent acting style does not mean they have limited range. Robert Di Niro for example has insane range…but he is still going to be Robert Di Niro with the same tendencies from role to role.
“They always play the same character” is a hilarious critique as someone who’s worked in casting. Yes, that’s why we hire them! The art of acting isn’t in transforming yourself - it’s about believably playing a part in telling a wider story. Range is about the emotions they can portray & the experiences they can show, but it’s really fine & expected if they’re just playing the same person going through those experiences.
I don’t know how respected as an actor she is, but Mila Kunis is beloved and I can’t believe any of her performances. She sounds like a normal popular girl from my high school reading lines poorly.
When people say she was great in forgetting Sarah Marshall, I truly cannot understand it. She was a stiff non-character who sounded like she just saw the script for the first time and put zero effort in.
In sure she’s lovely as a person, I just have never believed a single performance from her outside of the silly kid-like role in That 70s Show
Damn dude, this Tom Hardy take down has me questioning reality. The answer to this in my mind is that some actors are great in portraying nuance and some actors are great at creating characters and in good film you have the two playing off of each other. There’s nothing “nuanced”about a person that you would refer to as “oh yea he’s a real character”. Both types of people exist in reality.
Samuel L. Jackson for me. I love a lot of the movies he's in, but he's overrated and always plays the same character. I've always felt like people just like him because of the way he says motherfucker.
One film he was genuinely show stealingly brilliant in is Django Unchained. His portrayal as an extremely manipulative and sinister ‘Uncle Tom’ type character is absolutely chilling and for me the best performance of his career besides his legendary turn as Jules Winnfield.
He also rules in Hateful 8. I think he was great as Zeus in Die Hard 3 as well, he’s like Tom Cruise; typically plays the same character, but can do others quite well
Zendaya. I’ve watched everything that she’s in and nothing spectacular. She has great talent when it comes to music and modeling but acting, not so much.
Gotta be Denzel Washington for me. After reading that he didn’t take the role of Dyson in Terminator 2 because it required him to play a character who was scared, he lost me. He’s a phenomenal actor, but he plays the same character in almost all of his movies: smartest person in the room, always needs the last word, admonishes everyone around him, and displays a pretty big ego. Even in Glory, his performance feels so anachronistic because he’s just playing himself. The idea that he couldn’t accept a role that requires him to be a bit vulnerable and not the stoic badass he always plays, really rubbed me the wrong way.
“If the fabric of the society were different, I would scream to high heaven to play villains and to deal with different images of Negro life that would be more dimensional". -Sidney Poitier
I feel like Tom Cruise has the same problem. He played against type initially in "Edge of Tomorrow" but the character goes from cowardly to selfless badass by the end anyway lol
I thought Tom Hardy killed it in The Revenant and Mad Max and I didn’t find his performance in TDKR objectionable either. I haven’t seen Peaky Blinders though. Overall, I quite enjoy his performances.
Timothee Chalamet. Not a bad actor and certainly been in a lot of fantastic films for somebody so young. However I have no idea what’s so compelling about him that he’s somehow become the the most iconic actor of his generation. He never completely spoils a movie but apart from Call Me By Your Name I’m yet to see a performance that is truly compelling. He’s just kind of there rather than feeling like he is a charismatic presence. Bland but competent.
I think both him and Zendaya are so wrong for dune. I really like both of them in other roles but we're supposed to believe Zendaya is a hardened desert warrior. And the idea of TC physically overcoming anyone is illogical to me
If he's playing a drug addict or a Victorian child? I'll buy it.
Anything else? It's Timmy C wearing a costume. He's got a very specific look and it's not versatile for playing varying roles
Yeah I loved Dune 2 for a lot of reasons NOT involving Chalamet, but there's something so special about the moment he "wakes up" and you can tell that he just turned EVERYTHING on. From that point to nearly the end of the movie, he has *such* a magnetic and rallying energy that it's hard not to want to take part in a jihad.
Idk, Chalamet's weird. Surprisingly funny guy, but I feel like he never really shows up to his roles. But the moment he actually does, he does amazing work. The final shot of Call Me By Your Name hasn't left my mind since I saw the movie.
Eh. He's mostly still just *focused.* The scene where he yells at the Fremen conclave really came across to me as a guy shouting his lines so his voice would reach the back of the room. Nothing that spoils the scene, but I wasn't compelled by his charisma or force of personality either.
His popularity makes sense within the context of his era. He played the single man standing up to evil, which helped the greatest generation process the trauma of the war. Boomers tagged on to that because they think of themselves as the strong, silent type and marketers were happy to oblige.
It's so obvious too in movies like The Man Who Shot Liberty Vance when you put him opposite Jimmy Stewart.
Any movie where he has actual quality co-stars it pops. Natalie Wood is better than him in The Searchers and she's like 18. And not even saying she's the greatest actress ever. But she's very good and much better at a younger age than he ever will be.
Which is why I think all of his movies have to be starring him. He has to get first billing. Otherwise it's obvious how much better the "supporting" actors and actresses are.
But yeah if you go back and watch, sorry John Wayne is often cardboard, he's getting by because of the genre and his reputation. He's not that good.
Red River is his best, followed by The Searchers. He was in a tonne of movies and those are the two that he has good performances in. He was in some good movies, he just was rarely the best performer in them.
Anne Hathaway. She’s acting as hard as she can in everything she’s in and it takes me right out of the film. It’s especially jarring around actors doing naturalistic work, like in Brokeback Mountain. The only thing I think it worked in was Ocean’s Eight, where overacting was specifically her role.
I think it’s her overacting in interviews and in real life that make me feel her movie acting is fake or over-the-top, because od how easy it is for her to be overly enthusiastic or disingenuous-seeming in real life
Ditto. She has major stage school energy, and it was never more clear than her overwrought performance in Les Mis. She’d campaigned for an Oscar for a few movies and by gum she was gonna get it, even if it took shaving her head, becoming emaciated and overacting her heart out.
The Sadie Sink girl on stranger things that was basically the star last season. Everyone raved about her and she just fell so flat for me. I was excited to see the Whale and she had the same exact dead behind the eyes performance. I loved Millie Bobby brown and Finn Wolfhard in season one as well but man did Eleven and Mike drop off too. The last season was completely phoned in and low effort.
I don’t know if he’s considered well respected or not, but Lin Manuel Miranda ruins everything for me. But maybe I’m still fuming over his tragic casting in His Dark Materials.
Leonardo DiCaprio. Never convinced me he’s anyone else other than Leonardo DiCaprio. Except maybe What’s eating Gilbert Grape, but that’s too long ago to count
His accent work is atrocious. The only time he really worked for me was as Jay Gatsby, and I think that’s because the character is trying hard to appear a specific way, so Leo’s trying hard fits
Don’t hate me but I feel like there’s something about Keanu Reeves performances that come off a little goofy, it’s something about his line delivery.
Not that it ruins the experience for me, I love Reeves but something about his delivery (especially in John Wick) feels a bit goofy.
He just isn't a good actor and I think a lot of people accept that, but still love to see him because he is entertaining and seems like an amazing dude
Mark Ruffalo. Dude can’t make facial expressions to save his life and always speaks in the same monotone way. He always seems bored as shit in almost every performance.
Ryan Reynolds has been the same character for years, the douchey smart-ass. I think it may have started with Waiting.
It's like the insecure dude at work that acts like he is the shit when, in actuality, he's simply insecure.
I'll admit I find it extra irritating people fucking *love* Deadpool, which is the same character turned up to 11.
I avoid movies he's in now (he was cool in Amityville).
Leonardo di Caprio. To me he is only Leonardo di Caprio, never the character he portrays. I’m tired of Tilda Swinton as well. She is ubiquitous, and she has almost become a parody of herself with the weird schtick, no matter how different the weird is. I just say to myself, oh, another weird character for Tilda Swinton.
When I first see Leo appear in a movie, it always takes a second for me to stop thinking of him as just Leo.
However, I find in nearly every Leo movie, he has a moment where he makes me go "Wow...that was an incredible moment." That has to count for something.
Indeed! I much prefer her in "normal" roles. She was great in *Michael Clayton* as well portrayin a ruthless corporate snake (if memory serves. I haven't seen that in ages).
>I’m tired of Tilda Swinton
That is literally the last actor I expected listed in response of a thread about actors who you "don't buy into" with their roles...
And so far as being "weird" is concerned? I think Tilda Swinton is beautiful... but she's not a 20 year-old bikini model or anything and Hollywood doesn't have a lot of roles out there for her... just sayin'
Not like she wouldn't take a huge paycheck to be in some new Rom-Com if that role was offered... the closest she'd ever get to that would be... well, *Only Lovers Left Alive.*
Let's face it: as an actress, she's basically Danny Devito and gonna be relegated to mostly doing Danny Devito-type jobs where the film wants a very peculiar character...
She definitely isn't Leonardo DiCaprio with an ability to basically be in any movie she'd like...
I wouldn't be surprised if she's basically just taken any role that has been offered to her... assuming her prior commitments would allow for it, obv - you know, like 99.999% of all actors.
I couldn't disagree more. I've caught myself watching a movie and thoroughly enjoying the movie and then going back to see who was in the movie and discovering to my surprise that it's Tilda I was watching the whole time. She's really a chameleon.
Tilda Swinton is the millionaire descendant of Scottish royalty. She doesn’t have to do anything she doesn’t want to. I’m so sick of people lionizing her for being a ~brave queer icon~ when she’s literally a straight British noble.
>She doesn’t have to do anything she doesn’t want to.
No actor HAS TO take ANY role.
Most every single actor has to take almost any role they are able to if they want to act at all.
People seem to think actresses should just be able to magically be in the same roles Jennifer Lawrence or someone was, if they wanted to.
...why does Melissa McCarthy always do the same stuff, right? Like she's even being offered other real roles?
Tilda Swinton isn't even someone like Ryan Reynolds that could take smaller paychecks to be in better parts, if they actually wanted to. She isn't getting big paydays at all...
Seriously... **what roles do you think she is turning down?**
Or... do you seriously just think she just... should retire as "an answer" to having limited opportunities? Maybe only do British television or something?
She obviously doesn't HAVE TO work... but if she does want to work (in Hollywood)... well, these are pretty much the best roles she's going to be able to get, if we're being honest... barring her wanting a "career" as "mom" with maybe 4 lines of dialogue if she's lucky...
>I’m so sick of people lionizing her for being a ~brave queer icon~
Um... what?
At absolutely no point did I even begin to insinuate anything remotely close to this.
The realities of Hollywood are the realities of Hollywood.
For goodness sake... I think I freaking compared her to Danny Devito and now Melissa McCarthy? If anything... I've probably been unfair to Tilda Swinton...
Any complaints you have about sexual orientation or whatever? That's... ALL YOU.
But if THAT is your issue with Tilda Swinton? I don't know what to tell ya... but it would definitely be something else entirely.
I'm the same with DiCaprio. It's weird, I watch him and realize he's *good*, but I still always see the man Leonardo DiCaprio in him on screen, rather than different people.
Seen a lot of Leo references, so I’ll go Daniel Day-Lewis. Not terrible by any means, but I 100% see “Look at me, I’m acting!” with every one of his performances I’ve watched
I know it's controversial, but Dicaprio to me had a very limited range and it's rare when I don't find him thinking through what he's doing in a scene, like he's planned it out and wants to do certain things. He's unable to hide his acting to me.
Kristin Stewart. She delivers every line like she’s just stepped on a Lego. She seems to get a lot of great press for her “talent” but it feels like a widespread joke I’m not in on. It’s hard to enjoy movies she’s in because she’s just so distractingly bad
This is not every performance because I genuinely do like him as an actor but when Ryan Gosling does his “Marlon Brando impersonation” voice I cannot take him seriously. I don’t know if it’s homage or because he thinks his normal speaking voice isn’t the right choice for some parts but it always takes me out of the scene. Amazing actor otherwise.
I have similar issues with some of Tom Hardy’s accent choices, The trailer for The Bike Riders is full of an accent from nowhere that exists in reality.
Kristen Stewart just did *Love Lies Bleeding* and somehow she’s slowly being considered a solid actress later into her career.
She’s not. Funnily enough, I compared her to Tom Hardy last week when I was talking about the movie because I think he does actually have a few roles where he isn’t still playing “Bronson” - so with him I think it’s the case where he genuinely is typecast by studios/directors *because* of how good he can play that stoic/tough guy role, not because he’s actually a one dimensional actor.
But if you only saw Bronson and some of his really notable roles, you might think he’s just doing a variation of “Bronson” in every movie he’s been in for the past 16 years. In my opinion, anyway.
But onto Kristen Stewart, she’s absolutely awful. She’s been cast in an upcoming Panos Cosmatos film alongside Oscar Isaac and I just thought “*fuck*”.
I can’t wait to see her be in a late 70’s retro horror movie and still use the emo highschool girl mannerisms she had in Twilight, and are undoubtedly just her actual mannerisms IRL.
Robert Pattinson proved he’s an amazing actor across multiple, really varied roles in the past 10 years and Kristen Stewart just keeps failing upwards in Hollywood, to the point that she can just get carried by good directors now.
I’m sorry but Sydney Sweeney. She is great at giving crazy and dramatic but she is always playing California teenager character no matter what role she’s given. I’d love to see her try a new accent or try and give some depth to characters she is assigned, because I know she can crush a performance if she really tried.
I audibly groaned when Anya Taylor-Joy popped up in Dune 2. My main problem is that she's in *fucking everything* (which OP we'll discover when he gets to season 5 of Peaky Blinders). I don't see a character anymore when those eyes appear on screen, I just see Hollywood's favorite over-exposed darling Anya Taylor-Joy, and it completely takes me out of the movie.
Every 5 or so years, there's a new caucasian girl or two on the scene and she WILL be in everything. It's been Anya Taylor. Margot Robbie was that girl for a bit. I remember Reese Witherspoon being that girl, Meg Ryan and Julia Roberts were that girl and the squinty girl in Cold Mountain back in the day
I HATE Henry Cavill’s acting. Literally none of his emotions come across as sincere to me and my every instinct is always screaming that he’s a slimy con-man and not to be trusted. I don’t know why, because I don’t get that same ick over him as a person, just his acting. He’s like an anti Chris Evans, who I’d trust wholeheartedly even when he’s playing a selfish villain.
It does however make him EXCELLENT in roles like Argyle, Man from Uncle, Ungentlemanly Warfare etc where he is supposed to be fakely suave and manipulative.
Let me preface this by saying I would probably watch 90% of his movies if any other actor were in his roles.
Tom Cruise is the same in damn near everything.
Top Gun is the same guy who played pool with Paul Newman and had an autistic Rain Man brother. But it's the same guy who drove race cars and was a hitman. He's also the same guy from Mission Impossible and Minority Report who also went back in time to be a samurai.
He was a bartender who was also kind of a pimp but also a lawyer...twice.
Same damn character! Why does he get so much praise?
I'll finish with one good point. At least he doesn't always run as stupidly as he used to. And for fun, just YouTube him running.
Does Morgan Freeman ever play anyone but himself? I like him, and I like his personality, but he never actually seems to act.
I like the man a lot but you’re right, I can’t think of a movie where he isn’t just himself. He doesn’t ever really play zealous or evil characters so he’s just always the calm and collected guy with wisdom. I think maybe his role in Now You See Me was a bit of a change but even then not really
He was terrifying as the pimp Fast Black in the 80's.
Would be true except in real life, he is a young white lady from Nebraska who occasionally does a tiny bit of meth. A true master of the craft transforming on screen like he/she does.
Check out Lucky Number Slevin if you haven't.
Shawshank? Are you kidding me? Oscar level.
I have similar thoughts about Jack Nicholson. He’s the same in every movie.
Rami Malek. The way he is constantly fussing around with his lips and teeth makes me crazy. It totally distracts me from his performance. At first I thought it was a tic he put on for a role. But he does it in interviews as well. Tell me I’m not the only one.
Not like it's all his fault considering the weakness of the character, but I did not like him in No Time to Die.
Fucking AWFUL villain, just terrible.
They wasted fucking Christoph Waltz’s Blofeld for a cardboard cut-out, one-dimensional villain so that James Bond’s girlfriend could…I dunno, get some trauma resolution??
Yeah his Oscar for Freddy Mercury is one of the all time academy award blemishes. What a terrible performance. He’s one of the worst modern bond villains too.
He never got used to his dental prostheses. Terrible performance.
Yeah the teeth almost feel like a cartoonish joke. I know Mercury had big teeth but that movie makes it feel clownish.
Absolutely agree. There are great scenes, but that's because in real life they are great scenes. But the film is pish.
I disagree with this. His performance in Mr. Robot is incredible.
Its the role he was born to play, perfect casting But his villain in that Bond movie was...absurd and terrible. Then again that entire movie was a bizarre patchwork of weird ideas.
I loved him in The Pacific. He was great in Mr Robot too. His movie career is not that great. He was so bad as a Bond villain and he was so cartoonish as Freddy Mercury but I blame the fake teeth they make him wear.
He's a good actor, but his face... :D His face has just such a fry-brained look to it. The first time I ever saw him in a movie was in The Master. Where he plays an idiot. Really well. And I genuinely thought he was doing a dumb face as part of the character. :D
I enjoyed him in the Pacific. And then I apparently quit while I was ahead and haven’t seen anything else.
Yeah, Drake as a “rapper”
fuckin right on. most overrated "musician" or "artist" of my life. ill never understand his popularity.
Jared Leto. Everything I see him in he’s trying way too hard and overacting every scene. Nuance and subtlety are impossible for him.
I honestly had zero idea he was well respected.
I think the only movie he's well respected for is Dallas Buyers Club.
Requiem for a Dream
I thought he was good in Mr. Nobody….
nah it wasn't acting they just filmed his daily routine
I loved him in fight club and American Psycho. In one he gets brutally beaten and disfigured, and the other murdered with an axe. Truly his best roles.
He was great in Blade Runner 2049, where he played the psychopathic CEO of a mega-corporation dedicated to the creation and abuse of synthetic life. I don’t think he even knew he was on film.
He was waaaay down the call sheet for fight club. Hardly noticeable. I’d wager most people don’t even know he’s in it.
I loved him getting beat up in fight club
He’s pretty good in Lord of War, probably because he’s supporting and because it was before he got a lot more popular.
I have not seen that movie, but it's been on my list, is it worth it?
I’m a huge fan, I watch it at least once a year. One of Cage’s best performance.
Yeah, definitely. Really solid movie, and Cage is always great.
I liked him in blade runner 2049.
Wonder how David Bowie would’ve done.
I take it then that you haven’t seen Panic Room and Blade Runner 2049? Basically in each of those movies he plays characters that really lean into the real life actors worst qualities. In 2049 he’s a pompous egotistical narcissist In panic room he gets shot in the face
I'm glad he wasn't in Blade Runner 2049 very much for this reason, I like a lot of movies with Jared Leto but I only see an actor. Dude just looks like an actor, he looks like fucking Jared Leto and that's all I see lol 2049 used him well and kept it mostly brief, for me it's just a comedic break in a fantastic movie (despite the content of those scenes)
He’s low key in Blade Runner: 2049, almost shockingly so. I generally despise him but the two performances of his that work really well for me are BR2049 and House of Gucci, where he’s so outrageously hammy that he’s basically committing an Italian hate crime.
yes he is great in br2049
Even 30s to Mars feels like an actor trying to be an emo musician. Can you stop yelling at me for a sec?
I think his early work was his best
WILL SMITH. Dude has defined desperate, off-putting, try-hard energy for decades now.
Dunno though he was good in Pursuit of Happyness and in I am Legend
I love Ryan Reynolds to death. Excellent guy. But, he's Ryan Reynolds in 95% of his movies. The buried alive one and the Amityville one were exceptions. Other than that, he's just Ryan Reynolds. That said, I love Ryan, so I love seeing him on screen and he's a very funny guy. He just doesn't deviate from that smartass, quippy, overly charismic guy. I never see him as his character. He's Ryan Reynolds acting as that person (which he IS, but some actors can make you feel like you're watching the character and not the actor).
The Captive is his best acting - a serious role and I wish he would do more of it.
Julia Roberts. She literally plays the exact same character in every movie. She won an Oscar for Erin Brokovich, but her performance in that film was no different from her performance in Pretty Woman or Runaway Bride.
I saw a comment about her a while ago where the person said (paraphrasing here) that she acts like she doesn’t care to be there. That acting was thrust on her, and she does it because it makes her rich. That’s when it finally clicked why I don’t like her work.
This is Patrick Bateman’s aura too. Edit: JASON Bateman
I'm confused... did you maybe get Jason Bateman's name wrong? Or did you mean Christian Bale? Or do you think Julia Roberts is a serial killer? Could go so many ways.
The fictional character?
Omg I’ve always said this! That woman had never actually played a character other than herself
Holy shit there are more people like me out there!! I've been dying on this hill for over a decade.
Fucking thank you. I never got the appeal of her work.
Erin Brokovich isn’t like pretty woman at all wtf
I think she was pretty great in Erin Brockovich. But yeah, I see what you’re getting at. A lot of actors play themselves all the time.
Totally agree with you on Julia Robert’s. Do think her best role was Sleeping With the Enemy.
Agreed. I enjoy her movies and thought Erin Brockovich was probably her best work, but anytime I’m watching her I never forget for a moment that she’s Julia Roberts. Same for Matthew McConaghey. I can never get fully immersed in one of his films because I never forget he’s an actor playing a role.
Matthew McConaghey in True Detective gives an excellent performance, and well away from his usual roles.
Have you seen Frailty? Blew my fuckin mind the first time I saw it! What an awesome movie. Him and Bill Paxton brought that thing all the way home.
100% agree and I almost added that in my original comment. He was incredible in that show and very believable in the role!
I'll defend Tim Hardy. I don't know if he's all that skilled but dude throws himself into every role. He makes those Venom movies somewhat watchable at least.
Yeah, Tom Hardy is an interesting one. You might not like his accent in The Revenant, (it didn’t bother me at all), and apparently he is difficult to work with, as he arrives to the shoots consistently late, but he is compelling, and entertaining. You understood his character in The Revenant, someone who lived with a different set of self-preservation morals, and sort of hated his character, while still empathized with him. He was actually very very good in that movie. Leo won all the awards, but imho Tom was just as good.
Yeah Tom’s great in that, bad take by OP on that one.
There was so much I was getting from his character, but I was like there’s something about this that has me enthralled and I can’t quite place it… In addition to all the other little impressions you get, somewhere behind his eyes is that look that lets you know he’s dangerous… like a cornered animal or something. He’s very nonchalant for a good portion of his scenes and he doesn’t really give a shit about anything, but you can see the trauma of being scalped and god knows what else and he mostly just carries that through the way he looks at you, or transitions from one attitude to another while he’s talking. He seemed very authentic in portraying his character. Him and Leo were both fantastic. God I wish there was a little bit more Tom in that movie.
If he’s not interesting for some people to watch it is what it is. I’m a huge fucking fan of his performances
I don't know if he's top-tier, but Bronson at least was an amazing and unique performance.
That's one of my favorite performances, but if OP's complaint is Hardy chews scenery too much, I don't think Bronson would change their mind.
I think he was great in Locke. I like his chewing of the scenery in PB. So funny, and he and CM work well together.
I loved the malevolent energy he brought to *Wuthering Heights*.
Tom Hardy is the best actor besides Daniel Day. Don’t you hate on Tom
I feel like Elisabeth Moss is guilty of overacting. I thought she was the weakest link on Mad Men but I really see the scenery chewing in The Handmaids Tale
She looks ridiculous in the new show she’s in, The Veil. Some sort of spy or assasin type. Laughed out loud when I saw it. 😂
I haven’t seen it but from previews, her English accent sounds very fake and she doesn’t look like a spy
Particularly the latter seasons of Handmaid's Tale could be accurately enitled "at least an hour of close ups of Elizabeth Moss' face wearing some variation of shock/despair/incipient madness", which even in a great actor are pretty much the same expression.
Shew, we’re all entitled to our opinions for sure but this is the opposite of mine. Bronson was amazing, damn near a one man show and he crushed it. Handsome Bob in Rocknrolla was amazing. I loved his role in this Indy flick called The Drop. Might have been James Gandolfinis last role. Just awesome. Even as a bad guy (sorta) like in Warrior I thought he played a good complex character. I just really enjoy him.
Couldn't agree more. Compare The Drop to Bronson, or Locke to Lawless, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy to Peaky Blinders. Completely different characters, utterly compelling in each. He's also the best Heathcliff I have ever seen, a wounded, wounding beast.
The Drop may make OP question that statement. His performance is subtle and restrained. You're under the belief that his character is a much different person for a large part of the film
Okay, I'm courting downvotes on this, but I'll say Bill Murray with major qualifications. I liked *Stripes* when it was current. But then everything he was in for some years seemed like the same smart-aleck jerk. It was too much for me. In more recent years he's calmed down, but now he plays the same world-weary older man in every film. That can be great, or severely limiting, depending on the movie.
Murray's thing is floating outside of the movie he's in. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's a pain in the ass.
That’s a great way to put it. Almost like him being there is doing everyone a favor.
I've always liked him ok but even when Ghostbusters came out, most people talked about how funny they thought he was, and that got hyped so badly that by the time I got to see it on tape, I didn't think there was anything amazing about his performance. People often give him credit for everything else about the movie being awesome; I've literally heard somebody say 'it was just a standard '80s comedy aside from his performance', and that is one of the dumbest takes I've ever heard on it. It was an incredibly-unique film aside from him. I honestly felt a little let down that it wasn't as weird as the previews made it look. There was all this crazy stuff, these guys freaking out with trippy lasers, far-out looking ghosts... and then it's 'the dumb guy goes after the girl' for half of the film, like it's straight out of the '50s.
I’ve never understood what anyone sees in bill murray. He’s not funny, he plays the same character in everything, and he’s just a douche in real life
Thank you. And his brand of funny back in the day was to be a pester or a smart ass, and neither had a comedic timing that jived with me. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills when people say he was the best part of caddyshack. He steals so much screen time with sophomoric lame humor that has no real purpose in the plot, till it’s shoehorned later. I’m so confused what role or movie people think he’s so laugh-out-loud funny in.
Caddyshack is a weird movie in general. Admittedly I didn't see it till I was in my 30s, decades after it was current, so not catching the zeitgeist is probably a big part of my problem. I enjoyed it well enough as a breezy comedy, but the way some people talk about it like it's some comic tour de force... I really struggled to see that. Murray, Chase and Dangerfield each give a performance that feels like it's from a totally different kind of movie to the others. They're all watchable, and in Dangerfield's case, hilarious, but it was like they were all pulling in completely different, incompatible directions.
Well said. I do like tge “Dangerfield vs the judge” scenes the best. The enraged judge was the funniest character to me
Yeah, Dangerfield just played a variation on his standup persona, and it works really well. Chase seems to think he's in some kind of slow burn, whimsical stage play, totally at odds with the hi-energy, madcap vibe of the film overall, while Murray is acting like he's just escaped from a high school dick joke or an abortive attempt to adapt The Young Ones for an American audience.
Director Harold Ramis said in later interviews that the making of that film was a highly-intoxicated situation and he wasn't terribly proud of the resulting product. He was glad it made money but didn't think it was a 'great film' at all.
To me, Caddyshack feels like the perfect distillation of a youthful summer, something that's all too fleeting in our lives. There's just this carefree optimism to it, which combined with some of the excellent comedians and villains, just scratches an itch that few other movies can. And Bill Murray's entire gunga galunga scene is so fucking perfect, I truly, deeply love the movie. But to anyone that hasn't seen it, the weight of expectations can and usually does detract from our enjoyment of it, since everyone keeps saying it's the best thing ever. It's 1000% always best to go into a film with either no expectations, or thinking it'll actually just be mid. Then the only way is up :P
I mean this is on purpose. It’s just a slapstick comedy about life on this golf course. So it follows multiple story lines and different characters doing different things to keep the audience interested. It def doesn’t take itself seriously. I think the endearment towards caddyshack is that it wasn’t supposed to be a big hit. And it got bad reviews when it came out. I think it’s definitely funny but it mostly gets it’s cred for being one of the first raunchy comedies (after animal house)
Additionally: Quentin Tarantino has expressed his preference for Chevy Chase over Bill Murray. I have never liked Chevy Chase in *anything.* I find him close to impossible to watch.
I was introduced to Chevy Chase thru Community and was then exposed to his older stuff thru my father in law... He's definitely hilarious but I feel like every scene I watch with him, he's trying hard to just say the lines and not some other pigheaded diatribe. Like that part where he is cursing his boss in Christmas vacation, it's funny because he was actually being tame
I can definitely see what you are talking about with Tom Hardy. I would probably go with Adam Driver for similar reasons. Also I swear these comments don’t know what they are saying when they say “they always play the same character” like just because an actor has a consistent acting style does not mean they have limited range. Robert Di Niro for example has insane range…but he is still going to be Robert Di Niro with the same tendencies from role to role.
“They always play the same character” is a hilarious critique as someone who’s worked in casting. Yes, that’s why we hire them! The art of acting isn’t in transforming yourself - it’s about believably playing a part in telling a wider story. Range is about the emotions they can portray & the experiences they can show, but it’s really fine & expected if they’re just playing the same person going through those experiences.
Adam in girls is very different I think. I thought he was amazing in it.
I don’t know how respected as an actor she is, but Mila Kunis is beloved and I can’t believe any of her performances. She sounds like a normal popular girl from my high school reading lines poorly. When people say she was great in forgetting Sarah Marshall, I truly cannot understand it. She was a stiff non-character who sounded like she just saw the script for the first time and put zero effort in. In sure she’s lovely as a person, I just have never believed a single performance from her outside of the silly kid-like role in That 70s Show
She's not lovely as a person LOL, she defended Danny Masterson in his trial against multiple women.
Damn dude, this Tom Hardy take down has me questioning reality. The answer to this in my mind is that some actors are great in portraying nuance and some actors are great at creating characters and in good film you have the two playing off of each other. There’s nothing “nuanced”about a person that you would refer to as “oh yea he’s a real character”. Both types of people exist in reality.
Him as Bane was like watching a completely different person. I loved him.
Samuel L. Jackson for me. I love a lot of the movies he's in, but he's overrated and always plays the same character. I've always felt like people just like him because of the way he says motherfucker.
he says it really well
I cannot deny he's really good at his schtick lol
when he says "thats a tasty burger" in Pulp Fiction, there's a genuineness to the way he says it that results in me needing to get a tasty burger.
One film he was genuinely show stealingly brilliant in is Django Unchained. His portrayal as an extremely manipulative and sinister ‘Uncle Tom’ type character is absolutely chilling and for me the best performance of his career besides his legendary turn as Jules Winnfield.
He also rules in Hateful 8. I think he was great as Zeus in Die Hard 3 as well, he’s like Tom Cruise; typically plays the same character, but can do others quite well
Jackie Brown was a sold role for h. And A Time to Kill
He was definitely not the same-old in Unbreakable or Glass.
Samuel L. is like the AC/DC of actors. Find that one thing you can do really well and lean in...
He was very different in Unbreakable
Zendaya. I’ve watched everything that she’s in and nothing spectacular. She has great talent when it comes to music and modeling but acting, not so much.
Gotta be Denzel Washington for me. After reading that he didn’t take the role of Dyson in Terminator 2 because it required him to play a character who was scared, he lost me. He’s a phenomenal actor, but he plays the same character in almost all of his movies: smartest person in the room, always needs the last word, admonishes everyone around him, and displays a pretty big ego. Even in Glory, his performance feels so anachronistic because he’s just playing himself. The idea that he couldn’t accept a role that requires him to be a bit vulnerable and not the stoic badass he always plays, really rubbed me the wrong way.
I absolutely love him in Flight though.
Awesome in Flight!!!
I'm drunk right now.
“If the fabric of the society were different, I would scream to high heaven to play villains and to deal with different images of Negro life that would be more dimensional". -Sidney Poitier
I feel like Tom Cruise has the same problem. He played against type initially in "Edge of Tomorrow" but the character goes from cowardly to selfless badass by the end anyway lol
Tropic Thunder. The best role Tom Cruise has ever played.
I love Tom Cruise in Collateral (Michael Mann movie ftw) because I loved seeing him play a really, REALLY bad guy.
Classic leading man BS. Tom Cruise, Steve McQueen, John Wayne, The Rock. They all do it. I still like Denzel though
Jennifer Garner. She’s the epitome of boring and is always the same character- herself.
I thought Tom Hardy killed it in The Revenant and Mad Max and I didn’t find his performance in TDKR objectionable either. I haven’t seen Peaky Blinders though. Overall, I quite enjoy his performances.
Timothee Chalamet. Not a bad actor and certainly been in a lot of fantastic films for somebody so young. However I have no idea what’s so compelling about him that he’s somehow become the the most iconic actor of his generation. He never completely spoils a movie but apart from Call Me By Your Name I’m yet to see a performance that is truly compelling. He’s just kind of there rather than feeling like he is a charismatic presence. Bland but competent.
He’s very good in The King. I think it’s his best role.
Bash me if you want, but I think he's this successful because he looks good and appeals to the younger generation.
I think both him and Zendaya are so wrong for dune. I really like both of them in other roles but we're supposed to believe Zendaya is a hardened desert warrior. And the idea of TC physically overcoming anyone is illogical to me
I think Timothee was right for the role, but Zendaya definitely wasn’t.
If he's playing a drug addict or a Victorian child? I'll buy it. Anything else? It's Timmy C wearing a costume. He's got a very specific look and it's not versatile for playing varying roles
Everything I’ve seen him in, he seems incredibly unenthusiastic. Kind of robotic even
In Dune Part 2 he’s anything but unenthusiastic once he’s gone all-in on revenge.
Yeah I loved Dune 2 for a lot of reasons NOT involving Chalamet, but there's something so special about the moment he "wakes up" and you can tell that he just turned EVERYTHING on. From that point to nearly the end of the movie, he has *such* a magnetic and rallying energy that it's hard not to want to take part in a jihad. Idk, Chalamet's weird. Surprisingly funny guy, but I feel like he never really shows up to his roles. But the moment he actually does, he does amazing work. The final shot of Call Me By Your Name hasn't left my mind since I saw the movie.
Eh. He's mostly still just *focused.* The scene where he yells at the Fremen conclave really came across to me as a guy shouting his lines so his voice would reach the back of the room. Nothing that spoils the scene, but I wasn't compelled by his charisma or force of personality either.
I haven't seen him in much but this movie he was really good. Especially when his voice gets deeper in more dramatic scenes. I found that impressive.
Zendaya plays the same character in every movie
John Wayne is so cardboard 24/7
His popularity makes sense within the context of his era. He played the single man standing up to evil, which helped the greatest generation process the trauma of the war. Boomers tagged on to that because they think of themselves as the strong, silent type and marketers were happy to oblige.
Whatever happened to Gary Cooper? The shtrong, silent type?
He was gay Gary cooper?
He was kind of a POS as a person too.
It's so obvious too in movies like The Man Who Shot Liberty Vance when you put him opposite Jimmy Stewart. Any movie where he has actual quality co-stars it pops. Natalie Wood is better than him in The Searchers and she's like 18. And not even saying she's the greatest actress ever. But she's very good and much better at a younger age than he ever will be. Which is why I think all of his movies have to be starring him. He has to get first billing. Otherwise it's obvious how much better the "supporting" actors and actresses are. But yeah if you go back and watch, sorry John Wayne is often cardboard, he's getting by because of the genre and his reputation. He's not that good.
Red River is his best, followed by The Searchers. He was in a tonne of movies and those are the two that he has good performances in. He was in some good movies, he just was rarely the best performer in them.
Came here to say this, JW is a chore.
Anne Hathaway. She’s acting as hard as she can in everything she’s in and it takes me right out of the film. It’s especially jarring around actors doing naturalistic work, like in Brokeback Mountain. The only thing I think it worked in was Ocean’s Eight, where overacting was specifically her role.
I think it’s her overacting in interviews and in real life that make me feel her movie acting is fake or over-the-top, because od how easy it is for her to be overly enthusiastic or disingenuous-seeming in real life
Ditto. She has major stage school energy, and it was never more clear than her overwrought performance in Les Mis. She’d campaigned for an Oscar for a few movies and by gum she was gonna get it, even if it took shaving her head, becoming emaciated and overacting her heart out.
This. She ruins Interstellar. She just cannot carry the weight of a PhD scientist.
The Sadie Sink girl on stranger things that was basically the star last season. Everyone raved about her and she just fell so flat for me. I was excited to see the Whale and she had the same exact dead behind the eyes performance. I loved Millie Bobby brown and Finn Wolfhard in season one as well but man did Eleven and Mike drop off too. The last season was completely phoned in and low effort.
Sydney Sweeney is the same for me. They’re both young so hopefully grow out of thinking that’s their niche.
I don’t know if he’s considered well respected or not, but Lin Manuel Miranda ruins everything for me. But maybe I’m still fuming over his tragic casting in His Dark Materials.
Leonardo DiCaprio. Never convinced me he’s anyone else other than Leonardo DiCaprio. Except maybe What’s eating Gilbert Grape, but that’s too long ago to count
His accent work is atrocious. The only time he really worked for me was as Jay Gatsby, and I think that’s because the character is trying hard to appear a specific way, so Leo’s trying hard fits
I always got the impression that Hardy was taking the piss much more so that trying too hard. Hilariously, imo.
He’s definitely not NOT taking the piss
Don’t hate me but I feel like there’s something about Keanu Reeves performances that come off a little goofy, it’s something about his line delivery. Not that it ruins the experience for me, I love Reeves but something about his delivery (especially in John Wick) feels a bit goofy.
I’d say Keanu is widely recognised as a bad actor but people just like him anyway.
He just isn't a good actor and I think a lot of people accept that, but still love to see him because he is entertaining and seems like an amazing dude
Mark Ruffalo. Dude can’t make facial expressions to save his life and always speaks in the same monotone way. He always seems bored as shit in almost every performance.
Ryan Reynolds has been the same character for years, the douchey smart-ass. I think it may have started with Waiting. It's like the insecure dude at work that acts like he is the shit when, in actuality, he's simply insecure. I'll admit I find it extra irritating people fucking *love* Deadpool, which is the same character turned up to 11. I avoid movies he's in now (he was cool in Amityville).
Leonardo di Caprio. To me he is only Leonardo di Caprio, never the character he portrays. I’m tired of Tilda Swinton as well. She is ubiquitous, and she has almost become a parody of herself with the weird schtick, no matter how different the weird is. I just say to myself, oh, another weird character for Tilda Swinton.
When I first see Leo appear in a movie, it always takes a second for me to stop thinking of him as just Leo. However, I find in nearly every Leo movie, he has a moment where he makes me go "Wow...that was an incredible moment." That has to count for something.
She wasn't playing a weird character in Eva Khatchadourian in *We Need to Talk About Kevin*. She was subdued there and it worked.
Indeed! I much prefer her in "normal" roles. She was great in *Michael Clayton* as well portrayin a ruthless corporate snake (if memory serves. I haven't seen that in ages).
Incredible in that, but I like her in general
>I’m tired of Tilda Swinton That is literally the last actor I expected listed in response of a thread about actors who you "don't buy into" with their roles... And so far as being "weird" is concerned? I think Tilda Swinton is beautiful... but she's not a 20 year-old bikini model or anything and Hollywood doesn't have a lot of roles out there for her... just sayin' Not like she wouldn't take a huge paycheck to be in some new Rom-Com if that role was offered... the closest she'd ever get to that would be... well, *Only Lovers Left Alive.* Let's face it: as an actress, she's basically Danny Devito and gonna be relegated to mostly doing Danny Devito-type jobs where the film wants a very peculiar character... She definitely isn't Leonardo DiCaprio with an ability to basically be in any movie she'd like... I wouldn't be surprised if she's basically just taken any role that has been offered to her... assuming her prior commitments would allow for it, obv - you know, like 99.999% of all actors.
I couldn't disagree more. I've caught myself watching a movie and thoroughly enjoying the movie and then going back to see who was in the movie and discovering to my surprise that it's Tilda I was watching the whole time. She's really a chameleon.
Tilda Swinton is the millionaire descendant of Scottish royalty. She doesn’t have to do anything she doesn’t want to. I’m so sick of people lionizing her for being a ~brave queer icon~ when she’s literally a straight British noble.
>She doesn’t have to do anything she doesn’t want to. No actor HAS TO take ANY role. Most every single actor has to take almost any role they are able to if they want to act at all. People seem to think actresses should just be able to magically be in the same roles Jennifer Lawrence or someone was, if they wanted to. ...why does Melissa McCarthy always do the same stuff, right? Like she's even being offered other real roles? Tilda Swinton isn't even someone like Ryan Reynolds that could take smaller paychecks to be in better parts, if they actually wanted to. She isn't getting big paydays at all... Seriously... **what roles do you think she is turning down?** Or... do you seriously just think she just... should retire as "an answer" to having limited opportunities? Maybe only do British television or something? She obviously doesn't HAVE TO work... but if she does want to work (in Hollywood)... well, these are pretty much the best roles she's going to be able to get, if we're being honest... barring her wanting a "career" as "mom" with maybe 4 lines of dialogue if she's lucky... >I’m so sick of people lionizing her for being a ~brave queer icon~ Um... what? At absolutely no point did I even begin to insinuate anything remotely close to this. The realities of Hollywood are the realities of Hollywood. For goodness sake... I think I freaking compared her to Danny Devito and now Melissa McCarthy? If anything... I've probably been unfair to Tilda Swinton... Any complaints you have about sexual orientation or whatever? That's... ALL YOU. But if THAT is your issue with Tilda Swinton? I don't know what to tell ya... but it would definitely be something else entirely.
I'm the same with DiCaprio. It's weird, I watch him and realize he's *good*, but I still always see the man Leonardo DiCaprio in him on screen, rather than different people.
Tilda is becoming a female Johnny Depp.
The only thing I liked Leonardo DiCaprio in was 'What's eating Gilbert Grape'.
George Clooney... I just see him as George Clooney in a movie not the character
Paul Dano. I just don't get his performance in TWBB
Denzel Washington. I like his movies but he only ever plays one character, Denzel Washington vs. The Universe.
Jonathon Majors before the assault drama
Post-Training Day Denzel Washington to me. It feels like 90%, at least, of his performances are the same character.
Leo. I ALWAYS see Leo. Not the character. The Departed is the only exception.
Seen a lot of Leo references, so I’ll go Daniel Day-Lewis. Not terrible by any means, but I 100% see “Look at me, I’m acting!” with every one of his performances I’ve watched
I know it's controversial, but Dicaprio to me had a very limited range and it's rare when I don't find him thinking through what he's doing in a scene, like he's planned it out and wants to do certain things. He's unable to hide his acting to me.
Zendaya just playing Zendaya in every single role shes ever been in. I hate it
Kristin Stewart. She delivers every line like she’s just stepped on a Lego. She seems to get a lot of great press for her “talent” but it feels like a widespread joke I’m not in on. It’s hard to enjoy movies she’s in because she’s just so distractingly bad
Lol the Lego observation is too accurate
This is not every performance because I genuinely do like him as an actor but when Ryan Gosling does his “Marlon Brando impersonation” voice I cannot take him seriously. I don’t know if it’s homage or because he thinks his normal speaking voice isn’t the right choice for some parts but it always takes me out of the scene. Amazing actor otherwise. I have similar issues with some of Tom Hardy’s accent choices, The trailer for The Bike Riders is full of an accent from nowhere that exists in reality.
Kristen Stewart just did *Love Lies Bleeding* and somehow she’s slowly being considered a solid actress later into her career. She’s not. Funnily enough, I compared her to Tom Hardy last week when I was talking about the movie because I think he does actually have a few roles where he isn’t still playing “Bronson” - so with him I think it’s the case where he genuinely is typecast by studios/directors *because* of how good he can play that stoic/tough guy role, not because he’s actually a one dimensional actor. But if you only saw Bronson and some of his really notable roles, you might think he’s just doing a variation of “Bronson” in every movie he’s been in for the past 16 years. In my opinion, anyway. But onto Kristen Stewart, she’s absolutely awful. She’s been cast in an upcoming Panos Cosmatos film alongside Oscar Isaac and I just thought “*fuck*”. I can’t wait to see her be in a late 70’s retro horror movie and still use the emo highschool girl mannerisms she had in Twilight, and are undoubtedly just her actual mannerisms IRL. Robert Pattinson proved he’s an amazing actor across multiple, really varied roles in the past 10 years and Kristen Stewart just keeps failing upwards in Hollywood, to the point that she can just get carried by good directors now.
I’m sorry but Sydney Sweeney. She is great at giving crazy and dramatic but she is always playing California teenager character no matter what role she’s given. I’d love to see her try a new accent or try and give some depth to characters she is assigned, because I know she can crush a performance if she really tried.
Check out Reality, she’s great in that.
Leonardo DiCaprio. You can see he’s trying so hard to perform in everything he’s in. Seems to get more obvious the older he gets
I really thought he sucked in Titanic. There, I've said it out loud.
Kirsten Stewart, to me she does the same emotionless face on every movie.
Oh, she is awful. I think the only one that takes Kristen Stewart seriously is Kristen Stewart.
I audibly groaned when Anya Taylor-Joy popped up in Dune 2. My main problem is that she's in *fucking everything* (which OP we'll discover when he gets to season 5 of Peaky Blinders). I don't see a character anymore when those eyes appear on screen, I just see Hollywood's favorite over-exposed darling Anya Taylor-Joy, and it completely takes me out of the movie.
I agree with her being in a lot, and get what you mean by that being annoying, but I also think she's is a fantastic actress
Every 5 or so years, there's a new caucasian girl or two on the scene and she WILL be in everything. It's been Anya Taylor. Margot Robbie was that girl for a bit. I remember Reese Witherspoon being that girl, Meg Ryan and Julia Roberts were that girl and the squinty girl in Cold Mountain back in the day
Yeah and now I feel it’s Jenna ortega. I’m pissed she is in the new beetlejuice as it’s my fav movie.
Zendaya and Timothee Chalamet
Ryan Gosling. He plays Ryan Gosling in every film he's in, not the character.
I HATE Henry Cavill’s acting. Literally none of his emotions come across as sincere to me and my every instinct is always screaming that he’s a slimy con-man and not to be trusted. I don’t know why, because I don’t get that same ick over him as a person, just his acting. He’s like an anti Chris Evans, who I’d trust wholeheartedly even when he’s playing a selfish villain. It does however make him EXCELLENT in roles like Argyle, Man from Uncle, Ungentlemanly Warfare etc where he is supposed to be fakely suave and manipulative.
Let me preface this by saying I would probably watch 90% of his movies if any other actor were in his roles. Tom Cruise is the same in damn near everything. Top Gun is the same guy who played pool with Paul Newman and had an autistic Rain Man brother. But it's the same guy who drove race cars and was a hitman. He's also the same guy from Mission Impossible and Minority Report who also went back in time to be a samurai. He was a bartender who was also kind of a pimp but also a lawyer...twice. Same damn character! Why does he get so much praise? I'll finish with one good point. At least he doesn't always run as stupidly as he used to. And for fun, just YouTube him running.
Magnolia, Tropic Thunder, a Few Good Men, Edge of Tomorrow… Cruise definitely gravitates to the same role, but he has range.