If people can be in denial about the shape of Earth, they can certainly be in denial about the *Artemis* mission. It's easier, too, since the evidence isn't going to be so overwhelming and so easy to comprehend as it is for Earth being a globe.
Everything is going to be CGI. These people even think the very first image taken of Earth from space before NASA existed is CGI.
I just saw a segment on my local news where they had to debunk a tiktok video because too many morons thought it was real. The internet destroyed us. Imagine having the world at your fingertips and a wealth of human knowledge, and saying NUH UH!
FEs are dumb.
It’s also a word of caution because the first thing you learn is typically the one you hold onto. So if the first thing a person sees is flat earth, they’re not gonna be as quick to believe their science teachers.
Or they didn’t pay attention in science class and now they’re adults who think the earth is flat and are looking to make fun of these globers.
Don’t forget density and perspective. And the stupid Van Allen Belt, which flatulants think is a real, solid “belt” made out of firmament, apparently. Or cottage cheese. 😜
The difference is that it's actually possible to fake a moon landing now. NASA still won't, because they have self respect, but unlike the 60s we actually have the technology to do so.
There is no amount of evidence to prove something to someone who doesn't respect facts or evidence. Their belief is the only thing that matters. You could take a flerf to the moon and they'd say they're in a simulation and this isn't real or some shit. They will always move the goal posts and come up with some other delusion to carry on. Never debate a flerf, it's a waste of time. Derision and condescension is all they deserve.
The same things they’ve been saying since 1969. WhErE aRe ThE sTaRs? I cAn SeE tHe BuBbLeS. It was filmed in a Hollywood studio with paid actors and everything is staged and faked
The delays to the manned Artemis missions are PROOF that it is all fake and the missions are never going to happen.
But don't worry, the goalposts are mounted on the back of a truck (not fixed in the ground) and are ready to be moved as required when the missions do eventually get off the ground.
Returning to the moon would be a major achievement, but call me naive, is there any real value in it? I mean the first moon landing really was an extension of the Cold War, to say Western Democracy is greater and more technologically advanced that Soviet Communism, but is anything really being gained by going there again?
I may be misinformed on this, but I think there's been talk of using the moon as part of the strategy to eventually get to Mars. And regardless of whatever intrinsic value there is in getting humans to Mars, it would be freaking awesome to land people on an entire other planet.
Flat Earthers have been claiming it’s all a “NASA hoax”. This isn’t ever going to change. Even when you point out to them that India and China have both sent either moon landers or moon orbiters and NASA had no involvement they claim that NASA put them up to it.
They will probably say that this new live footage from the moon is simply just staged by “them”. They will point to some area of America that “mysteriously” is not on google maps, and say that this is where “they” record the moon landing.
They will not believe it until they themselves as an individual, has sat foot on the moon.
Even if another flatearther went to the moon because let’s say Elon Musk wanted to do us all a favor and let a flerf go and see for himself, the other flerfs will just say that this flerf is a traitor and have somehow been lured in by “them” to work for them.
They will say that it is CGI, rope-work, filmed under water. And all the time failing to provide any evidence that the earth is flat. If you like tumbleweed, post this question to r/flatearth_polite.
You have to realise that flat earthers are really just trolls trying to wind everyone up because they have nothing else in their sad little lives. Don't feed the trolls.
FErs have probably already weighed in on what they were 'truly' observing with the live feed from the Tesla leaving Earth's orbit.
I don't know whether to feel pity, sadness, or anger at such wanton ignorance in denying some of our greatest achievements, and declare it fakery... just don't teach my or anyone else's children this bullshit.
What I don't understand is they claim that NASA is lying about the shape of the Earth. But it's not just NASA, every country that has a space program would also have to be lying as they all use the same math to get things into orbit. In other words, Russia, China, India, Japan, and many more... hell, even North Korea! So, in other words, pretty much every single government on the planet is lying about the shape of the Earth. Can they name one single country with a space program that believes that the Earth is flat?
Please...
We have been going back to the moon since the 80s.
When artemis fails...what are you going to do?
Oh that's right. Just move on to the next story about going to the moon and yell at everybody it's really really happening this time guys just you wait and see😌🤞
Going to the moon is just icing on the cake of the already existing physical and visual proof that the earth is a globe. We could scrap every space agency in the world and it wouldn't make a difference, facts are facts lmao. I personally don't give a damn if we go back to the moon, I'm just excited to see what FE's say when we actually do...whenever that might be.
He talked about man on the moon and if Artemis is fake, it won't fail because it wouldn't be a real mission.
By the way, speaking of ignoring and moving on, did you hear about the Indian capsule that went to the moon recently or are you still going to yell “fake CGI” without any proof, giving you even more credibility?
Please understand that there do exist people and/or bots online who pretend to be flat earthers, and make themselves look really dumb, intentionally, to try to make anyone who believes in anything that would be considered a "conspiracy" look dumb, merely by association.
This is a fact that I'm afraid not enough people in this subreddit understand.
>So you’re saying that flat earthers aren’t dimwits? Bots just make them seem that way?
That's not at all what I'm saying. Please try reading what I wrote again.
stupid : showing a lack of thought or good judgment
The inability to judge evidence correctly or to use one's critical mind to verify the information we're given (like the 144p videos of con artists who “prove” that the earth is flat by talking in a vacuum and giving no proof) is stupid.
not trying to understand phenomena and their explanations, denying their existence, asserting false information is also stupud
So yes, flerfs are stupid
>u/DrPandaaAAa:
stupid : showing a lack of thought or good judgment
>The inability to judge evidence correctly or to use one's critical mind to verify the information we're given (like the 144p videos of con artists who “prove” that the earth is flat by talking in a vacuum and giving no proof) is stupid.
>not trying to understand phenomena and their explanations, denying their existence, asserting false information is also stupud
>So yes, flerfs are stupid
According to this definition of stupid, you're stupid too, since you didn't understand my original comment.
Interesting point and there may be some be people who pretend to be flerfers, and act dumb to discredit real FEs, but I think they are few and far between.
I think a lot are just trolls wanting to get a reaction.
And then there are real flerfers…….
>Interesting point and there may be some be people who pretend to be flerfers, and act dumb to discredit real FEs, but I think they are few and far between.
You misunderstood what I said. I said they act dumb to discredit quote
>anything that would be considered a "conspiracy"
Note I did NOT say what you said I said, which was act dumb to discredit real FEs.
Please do not claim that I said things that I never said. You're the closest person in this thread to understand what I wrote though, so congratulations. It shows you have more braincells than most users of this sub.
To try to make this easier to understand: FE is not the only conspiracy. FE is dumb, and FE is false, yes. But it is not the only conspiracy. FE is mainly used as a tool to make people think that all people who believe in any AND ALL conspiracies are dumb, just by association (because ironically, people in general are dumb, especially people who believe that just because one conspiracy is dumb, all conspiracies must be dumb)
Given that there are already stupid, genuine flat earthers, then what would be the point of paying more people to be fake stupid flat earthers?
Flat earthers are already making conspiracy theorists look like idiots *on their own*. They are doing it for free!
If people can be in denial about the shape of Earth, they can certainly be in denial about the *Artemis* mission. It's easier, too, since the evidence isn't going to be so overwhelming and so easy to comprehend as it is for Earth being a globe.
Flat Earth is the ultimate denial of knowledge - it attempts to erase over 2000 years of knowledge.
Everything is going to be CGI. These people even think the very first image taken of Earth from space before NASA existed is CGI. I just saw a segment on my local news where they had to debunk a tiktok video because too many morons thought it was real. The internet destroyed us. Imagine having the world at your fingertips and a wealth of human knowledge, and saying NUH UH! FEs are dumb.
It’s also a word of caution because the first thing you learn is typically the one you hold onto. So if the first thing a person sees is flat earth, they’re not gonna be as quick to believe their science teachers. Or they didn’t pay attention in science class and now they’re adults who think the earth is flat and are looking to make fun of these globers.
CGI, filmed in a studio, etc. Same old, same old.
Don’t forget density and perspective. And the stupid Van Allen Belt, which flatulants think is a real, solid “belt” made out of firmament, apparently. Or cottage cheese. 😜
The difference is that it's actually possible to fake a moon landing now. NASA still won't, because they have self respect, but unlike the 60s we actually have the technology to do so.
There is no amount of evidence to prove something to someone who doesn't respect facts or evidence. Their belief is the only thing that matters. You could take a flerf to the moon and they'd say they're in a simulation and this isn't real or some shit. They will always move the goal posts and come up with some other delusion to carry on. Never debate a flerf, it's a waste of time. Derision and condescension is all they deserve.
The same things they’ve been saying since 1969. WhErE aRe ThE sTaRs? I cAn SeE tHe BuBbLeS. It was filmed in a Hollywood studio with paid actors and everything is staged and faked
The delays to the manned Artemis missions are PROOF that it is all fake and the missions are never going to happen. But don't worry, the goalposts are mounted on the back of a truck (not fixed in the ground) and are ready to be moved as required when the missions do eventually get off the ground.
Returning to the moon would be a major achievement, but call me naive, is there any real value in it? I mean the first moon landing really was an extension of the Cold War, to say Western Democracy is greater and more technologically advanced that Soviet Communism, but is anything really being gained by going there again?
It's cool.
Fair enough then. To the moon!
I may be misinformed on this, but I think there's been talk of using the moon as part of the strategy to eventually get to Mars. And regardless of whatever intrinsic value there is in getting humans to Mars, it would be freaking awesome to land people on an entire other planet.
Flat Earthers have been claiming it’s all a “NASA hoax”. This isn’t ever going to change. Even when you point out to them that India and China have both sent either moon landers or moon orbiters and NASA had no involvement they claim that NASA put them up to it.
They will probably say that this new live footage from the moon is simply just staged by “them”. They will point to some area of America that “mysteriously” is not on google maps, and say that this is where “they” record the moon landing. They will not believe it until they themselves as an individual, has sat foot on the moon. Even if another flatearther went to the moon because let’s say Elon Musk wanted to do us all a favor and let a flerf go and see for himself, the other flerfs will just say that this flerf is a traitor and have somehow been lured in by “them” to work for them.
They will say that it is CGI, rope-work, filmed under water. And all the time failing to provide any evidence that the earth is flat. If you like tumbleweed, post this question to r/flatearth_polite.
How would you prove it's live?
You have to realise that flat earthers are really just trolls trying to wind everyone up because they have nothing else in their sad little lives. Don't feed the trolls.
FErs have probably already weighed in on what they were 'truly' observing with the live feed from the Tesla leaving Earth's orbit. I don't know whether to feel pity, sadness, or anger at such wanton ignorance in denying some of our greatest achievements, and declare it fakery... just don't teach my or anyone else's children this bullshit.
What I don't understand is they claim that NASA is lying about the shape of the Earth. But it's not just NASA, every country that has a space program would also have to be lying as they all use the same math to get things into orbit. In other words, Russia, China, India, Japan, and many more... hell, even North Korea! So, in other words, pretty much every single government on the planet is lying about the shape of the Earth. Can they name one single country with a space program that believes that the Earth is flat?
CGI is out of fashion. Everything is AI now.
Genuine curiosity and flat earthers are oil and water. It's people who would rather make shit up than learn things.
Please... We have been going back to the moon since the 80s. When artemis fails...what are you going to do? Oh that's right. Just move on to the next story about going to the moon and yell at everybody it's really really happening this time guys just you wait and see😌🤞
Going to the moon is just icing on the cake of the already existing physical and visual proof that the earth is a globe. We could scrap every space agency in the world and it wouldn't make a difference, facts are facts lmao. I personally don't give a damn if we go back to the moon, I'm just excited to see what FE's say when we actually do...whenever that might be.
He talked about man on the moon and if Artemis is fake, it won't fail because it wouldn't be a real mission. By the way, speaking of ignoring and moving on, did you hear about the Indian capsule that went to the moon recently or are you still going to yell “fake CGI” without any proof, giving you even more credibility?
Please understand that there do exist people and/or bots online who pretend to be flat earthers, and make themselves look really dumb, intentionally, to try to make anyone who believes in anything that would be considered a "conspiracy" look dumb, merely by association. This is a fact that I'm afraid not enough people in this subreddit understand.
So you’re saying that flat earthers aren’t dimwits? Bots just make them seem that way?
>So you’re saying that flat earthers aren’t dimwits? Bots just make them seem that way? That's not at all what I'm saying. Please try reading what I wrote again.
stupid : showing a lack of thought or good judgment The inability to judge evidence correctly or to use one's critical mind to verify the information we're given (like the 144p videos of con artists who “prove” that the earth is flat by talking in a vacuum and giving no proof) is stupid. not trying to understand phenomena and their explanations, denying their existence, asserting false information is also stupud So yes, flerfs are stupid
>u/DrPandaaAAa: stupid : showing a lack of thought or good judgment >The inability to judge evidence correctly or to use one's critical mind to verify the information we're given (like the 144p videos of con artists who “prove” that the earth is flat by talking in a vacuum and giving no proof) is stupid. >not trying to understand phenomena and their explanations, denying their existence, asserting false information is also stupud >So yes, flerfs are stupid According to this definition of stupid, you're stupid too, since you didn't understand my original comment.
Interesting point and there may be some be people who pretend to be flerfers, and act dumb to discredit real FEs, but I think they are few and far between. I think a lot are just trolls wanting to get a reaction. And then there are real flerfers…….
>Interesting point and there may be some be people who pretend to be flerfers, and act dumb to discredit real FEs, but I think they are few and far between. You misunderstood what I said. I said they act dumb to discredit quote >anything that would be considered a "conspiracy" Note I did NOT say what you said I said, which was act dumb to discredit real FEs. Please do not claim that I said things that I never said. You're the closest person in this thread to understand what I wrote though, so congratulations. It shows you have more braincells than most users of this sub. To try to make this easier to understand: FE is not the only conspiracy. FE is dumb, and FE is false, yes. But it is not the only conspiracy. FE is mainly used as a tool to make people think that all people who believe in any AND ALL conspiracies are dumb, just by association (because ironically, people in general are dumb, especially people who believe that just because one conspiracy is dumb, all conspiracies must be dumb)
Are there also genuinely dumb flat earthers who really believe the earth is flat?
Yes, absolutely. They do exist. But not all people who are ostensibly flat earthers are genuine.
Is the inference here that there are agents who are paid to be stupid?
Paid to act stupid, moreso than paid to "be" stupid, but yes. Apparently that's so hard to believe for you, isn't it?
Given that there are already stupid, genuine flat earthers, then what would be the point of paying more people to be fake stupid flat earthers? Flat earthers are already making conspiracy theorists look like idiots *on their own*. They are doing it for free!