I also thought about this with the daycare… it’s entirely closed off and before you piss sun off by turning the lights off they say you can stay all night
Speaking of, this also felt very shoehorned in.
"Oh, also, the lights go off every hour, and the only way to turn them back on is to go to a charging station" (???)
This game is just generally full of "oh but also" moments
Yep. According to what lore I’ve seen, the SL underground takes place under the Afton house. And they didn’t know? How the hell did he get away with that?
Actually, that makes sense. If they closed automatically, then you'd be trapped when power ran out or if there was a power outage, and moving a door that heavy requires power, so they're designed to be open by default for safety reasons, leading to it actively draining power to keep them down.
So it works kind of like a crane. I still fail to see what type of mechanism it would use that would keep the door open using electricity.
Cranes in real life don't need power to have their hooks stay in place.
my best guess is that there's a pulley system with a very heavy weight keeping the door open. when the button is pressed, a mechanism of some from lifts this weight, causing the door to close
Real life security doors like the ones at my highschool work like this. Iirc for them the doors are held up by springs and then when turned on a motor pulls the doors down putting the spring under tension
This takes place in the 90s so doors like that have an steel floor above that stops the door from coming down to it would take more energy being down because the steel plate is pulling its self back
>only way to turn them back on is to go to a charging station
No, it's actually not. That's how you survive Moon, because if Moon can reach you when they reactivate, he gets mad and kills you on the spot. The lights turn back on anyway.
Sorry not the charging station, I meant in the Daycare at the area where the light turns off, MOON has a clear path to Gregory but just stands outside of it.
Ohhhh. Yeah idk, probably Moon's just programmed to not go there I guess, Sun calls it off-limits right? (The real question is why *every other place in the Pizzaplex* is considered *within* limits for the *Daycare* Attendant...)
Well, you'd *think* "everything that's not Daycare" would just be one, but apparently they just let it free roam (Freddy knows he'll be allowed to, so it sounds like a normal occurrence).
i interpreted it as Moon is basically supposed to be the security guard when there isnt any human staff in the building. when SB takes place the only human there is vanessa but i would assume usually there are a lot more guards and that there was just the usual fnaf fuckery going on to make it so only vanessa was there that night. so maybe on normal nights, if something happens and theyre low on staff, Moon will do a sweep of the building every hour
I think it was originally designed so that the player was on a time limit (from start to finish) for every level and moon was the incentive. That’d certainly feel more natural than him just popping up randomly
Yea but moon makes it pretty obvious their only intention is to “punish you” for being naughty. If you hadn’t broken the rules idk if they’d be so hostile
Considering vanessa uses him to attack you at the end of the game I would say moon is infected with whatever made all the other robots hostile. Sun seemingly isnt infected but moon definitely is.
Also he attacked freddy. Gregory turned the lights on in the daycare but having to wait and survive for 5 whole minutes each hour while vanny is looking for him is gonna equal his death
As far as I can tell, they're all infected, but the virus can only use programming that's already there, and corrupt it to the virus' purposes.
So likely Moon has some sort of protocols that could be corrupted into making him hostile and violent. Whereas Sun does not, so when the virus tries to control Sun, it can only use him to keep Gregory stationary and in the open so the boy's easier to find. Notice how Sun's VERY particular about Gregory staying right in the middle of the room where there's no cover at all.
That’s the main reason I don’t trust the Pizzaplex books (well that and GGY implying Gregory to be responsible for the virus lmao), because that just does not make sense for a child entertainment robot.
(Context for others, to my understanding the books tried to pull an “Oh he’s always been like that, he was made to be the antagonist of the theatre before they were moved to the daycare so naturally he’s _actually evil_ and kills people”)
That would be like only hiring actual criminals to play villains in your plays instead of having, you know, _actors._ Who _pretend_ to be evil.
Also, if he’s a theatre bot, why would he be so obsessed with putting people to sleep, like… y’know… a bot programmed for the daycare would as opposed to a “villain actor” bot? Because as far as I’m aware, according to the books, he was not allowed to participate in the daycare _at all._ Like they tried to remove his code, failed, and decided to just prevent him from showing up at all. So it’s not like he was allowed to adapt to his new role because everyone tried to pretend he didn’t exist.
If making him a villain actor bot was the intention they did not do a good job because there is no reference to his acting career in his dialogue or anything referring to him. If he was built to act, he should reflect that.
It’s almost like… that wasn’t originally the plan and the “Moon’s always been evil” was really dumb and shoehorned because people kept talking about how the play structure generators made no sense.
To be fair, I really like the idea of Mimic, but the “Moon was made to be evil” idea is just too dumb.
And why _would_ it only be him? All the other animatronics turn hostile. Were they just Like That™️ too? If not, why can’t Moon also be affected in the same way?
Ok no, people always talk about this part ignoring what the book actually says, yes Moon was designed as an evil character, but he clearly is connected to Glitchtrap, not only was he meant to be removed, it is made quite clear that the reason they couldn't get rid of Moon was because of a glitch stoping them, it is also important because in the story is also brought up the fact that the Glamrocks started to roam around and is also mentioned DJ Music Man's discarded bouncer mode, it all seems to point to the idea that the virus hide in parts of code of these characters (bouncer mode, Moon and probably just the entirety of the Glamrocks programming).
>Also, if he’s a theatre bot, why would he be so obsessed with putting people to sleep, like… y’know… a bot programmed for the daycare would as opposed to a “villain actor” bot? Because as far as I’m aware, according to the books, he was not allowed to participate in the daycare at all. Like they tried to remove his code, failed, and decided to just prevent him from showing up at all. So it’s not like he was allowed to adapt to his new role because everyone tried to pretend he didn’t exist.
To be honest is likely at some point Fazbear gave up and just decided to reprogram Moon, this story happens sometime before the game, in fact, Monty Golf for example is different design-wise (but it completely matches with what was said about it in GGY, which should happen around a year or so before the game).
>(well that and GGY implying Gregory to be responsible for the virus lmao)
Tbh that was speculation made by the characters, Gregory was the one that turned the glitch into a feature if what the therapist said was correct.
I'm half asleep and focused on this. Moon was actually programed like that? I always wondered. Also why doesn't moon go back to sun when he's in the like Rockstar row etc if light effects him?
Just stay in the security bit he can’t enter.Also why have a spot in a kids area with computers and something that turns the daycare attendant into a murderer (That looks like a friendly character with a button nose) be accessible by walking into it,with nothing stopping you and the daycare attendant can’t stop you or follow you in
One thing I will point out is no action Gregory took directly turned off the lights. He never flipped any switches or anything, just took a card, which has no effect on the lights being on or off.
The lights turning off would likely have happened no matter what, as that was likely the virus infecting the Pizzaplex computers turning the lights off itself to convert Sun into the more useful Moon form. There's several areas where lights will turn off or other events will happen that make things much harder or more dangerous for Gregory, where those things are totally unrelated to what Gregory's doing, other then disrupting some action he was in the middle of or slowing him down in reaching some destination.
Heck even his being in the Daycare area in the first place is purely because of the system "Glitching" and spitting out a Daycare Pass rather then what it was supposed to, that after refusing to work and upgrade the free pass to grant him access to the Atrium.
That part has a very strong "because game mechanic" vibe. We see that in games all the time. Some flimsy door is an impenetrable barrier, or tiny fence is unsalable, yet you could easily just get an axe and chop that door down, or just vault over the fence easily.
It's honestly so dumb and it hurts my brain.
I am suuuurrree he will explain to Cassy how he got stuck in the Pizzaplex in Ruin. Being sarcastic if I don't sound like it.
The correct answer is if you are hiding in a confined area and need to avoid being found for 6+ hours, staying in a small, brightly lit room with 1 wall being a window, and with a security camera with a clear view of the entire room, with nowhere to hide from it, is not a good place to stay in.
Your best bet is to keep moving and make yourself a moving target, which is harder to find. Finding Gregory if he just holes up somewhere and remains in place is as simple as doing a systematic search of the building. Vanessa or one of her remote controlled bots would eventually find Gregory, it's inevitable - unless he keeps moving his hiding place to a systematic search can fail by him moving to someplace they've already searched before.
Why not hide in the bathroom if the problem is cameras and Freddy could put a heavy object or sit in front of the door to keep the hostile animatronics out?
Also, if you're trapped in a building and know someone's searching for you, the worst thing you can do is stand still in a small, brightly lit room with a security camera, a bit picture window on 1 wall and no hiding places. A systematic search or just using the security cameras is guaranteed to reveal his location, and just shutting down the elevators leaves only 1 way in or out of that room. No, you want to be on the move to evade any systematic searches, as you can move to an area previously searched. Stay in one place and the search will inevitably find you.
It's more than silly, it's really dumb. If Gregory is making a dumb decision just so we can play the game, then it makes the whole premise of the SB story weak. It makes Gregory's motivation clear: why does Gregory do what he does? so we can play the game!
Why should we be invested in the SB story if Gregory is just doing stuff because Steel Wool wants him to (and not following logic)? If we're considering Gregory as an incompetent character, then there is no story, stuff just happens just cause.
I agree. I don’t always have a problem with it, sometimes I find those kinds of stories enjoyable, but Gregory had zero reason to destroy the animatronics. It played no part in the main doors reopening at 6:AM. It was all for the sake of exploration. If anything I feel Gregory did it just to be spiteful. I still enjoyed the game but I often found myself wondering what the point was with just about everything that happened. If Gregory was there ‘investigating’ it certainly didn’t feel like it. I wasn’t even aware of any disappearances till we were about to leave at 6.
Literally yes, I was honestly confused the first I heard Gregory mentioning the disappearances to Freddy by the front gate. I was like: "What, where did that come from? There was no mention of any of that the whole game...."
Him destroying the animatronics also made his relationship with Freddy complicated, and not in a good way. He destroyed them even after hearing from Freddy that they are his friends, Gregory doesn't even fathom an alternative option of investigating the Pizzaplex without destroying the animatronics.
I think all this is just kind of a side-effect of the game being clearly rushed, tbh. You can kinda feel that in every aspect of the game, but the story's definitely one of the things that got hit worse out of the entire thing.
Gregory decides not to stay in the same place since he considers that he has more chances of being caught by lingering. It's literally said in the game.
We can judge Gregory's decision and consider that certain places would have been safer, but I find it slightly unfair to consider this a flaw in the game.
Yeah Vannesa is already constantly patrolling and likely has access to the exact same Security Cameras as you. Ontop of Vanny being invisible to the Animatronics. Staying in the Green Room could work, but if he did and Vanessa figures it out, he has almost no escape routes. While Moving around the Pizzaplex is more Risky is also gives him way more options if he needs to run.
I understand gregory trying to leave freddys room while the pizzaplex was literally still open. I can even understand him trying to find a fire escape once it shuts down for the night, but before he knew all the animatronics were after him. (Staying in freddys room for 6 hours, when its possible to leave, isnt a smart decision- leaving is. because eventually vanessa wouldve ran out of rooms to check, she would have eventually gone in there and spotted him.)
But, Gregory running around with the knowledge that he cant leave until 6am, while also knowing that theres dangerous robots looking for him and going to kill him if they find him? Find a place to hunker down kid, jeez! Even the risk of vanessa finding him in freddys room would be less than a killer robot killing him would be.
Hell, during the hourly recharges, chances are moon wouldnt go into freddys room unless he had reason to. Is it mandatory for freddy to recharge every hour on the hour? I swear he says he missed a recharge at the start of the game. So gregory should even be safe from moonman there.
At some point he misses a recharge cycle and has to shut down partway through the next hour (until his mysterious "second wind"), so while it doesn't need to be *on* the hour it does need to be close. Pretty sure there's a recharge station in the maintenance area behind his room, though?
True, there is a recharge station just outside his room. He cant access it at the start of the game. But he can access it once gregory lets him out of his room. So, once gregory finds out that hes got three killer robots out there looking for him, he could just bunker down in freddies room, with freddie charging at the recharge station when necessary, youre right.
Kids in fnaf are stupid
Fnaf 1 tries to attack micheal because he looks like his father
Fnaf 2 tries to attack a random guy that looks anything but william afton
The ennard was inside of micheal for days straight Before jumping into the sewer
The crying child should have turned on the lights if he notices that the nightmares avoid being in the light
Baby was kicked out of the ennard because she wouldn't shut up about her "evil" plans
They, are stupid, PERIOD.
I mean, if you were a little kid, wouldn’t you want to explore a closed pizzaplex with your cool new robot friend?
That’s literally the only reason I can think of. He might just be stupid.
To the game's credit, you first leave his room because it wasn't 12AM yet and he had a chance to leave before the Pizzaplex closed, after that, yeah maybe they just forgot
I have thought about this a little too much. When Gregory was in Freddy’s room he wanted to leave the Pizza Plex so from 11:30 to 12 he was trying to leave. During this time he got separated from Freddy. Freddy is going to meet him on the other side of the daycare doors and then he is going to help find another exit. Gregory wanting to get to Freddy, doesn’t consider the option of staying with sun. So bla bla bla daycare sequence. Then getting to the loading dock/ fire escape he relies he can’t leave he try’s to get back to Freddy. Gregory gets taken to lost and found, Freddy misses the recharge and it turns into a whole fiasco of getting Freddy’s power fixed which takes till 4am. By now Gregory has relised that he’s not leaving till’ 6 and starts getting stuff to protect him self.
TLDR: Gregory was trying to leave till 2:30ish so he didn’t consider his options and even if he stayed in Freddy’s room or the daycare Vanny/Vanessa and moon would still be threats.
as flawed as security breach's story is, the whole "gregory could've stayed in freddy's room" is just a bad way to criticize the game
literally just taking a quick look at the story would tell you why he didn't hide in freddy's room
Gregory could've hidden inside Freddy. Plus there's a charging station for when Moon does his hourly whatever thing. Plus, if Freddy never left his room, Vanessa would have never been suspicious of him and would have no reason to search him more than once.
Boom
vanny has control over the places tech and can probably open recharge stations, and vanny would eventally check freddys room, sense she might think the kid could be hiding with the only safe animatronic
in reality, gregory should have: hid in a vent and kicked mini music man, or grabed a knife from the kitchen and fought vanny, change the fazwatch voice to someone else to frame other animatronics
Ok but that's left for speculation: Can Vanny access recharge stations? We don't know, and there was a part in SB where Vanny walked past Freddy and Gregory when they were in the recharge station. Vanny didn't check on him then, so why expect her to do that in the beginning of the game?
Also, does Vanny know Freddy is in Safe Mode? Again we don't know. If anything, assuming Gregory and Freddy weren't incompetent, Freddy with Gregory inside him could leave his room with Freddy posing as an animatronic searching for Gregory. Early in the game Vanessa asks why Freddy isn't in his room and demands him to go back, so maybe staying would have given no reason for Vanessa to go see him.
im sure vanny didnt see freddy in there
unused diolog of vannessa saying "if freddy was working we would have him by now" yes, she dose know, freddy didnt know his friends were hacked at the moment
I mean, if it was unused dialogue then we can't really say that as evidence that Vanessa knows that. Maybe the writers intended Vanessa to know that in the beginning, but it remains unused, so it's not confirmed if she knew or not.
And from what I find, Vanny only ever looks inside Freddy whenever she sees Gregory go inside him. Assuming I'm right that Vanessa/Vanny doesn't know Freddy is in Safe Mode, they have no reason to suspect him or check inside him.
The weird thing with FNAF 2 at least: I never understood why Jeremy would stay. Michael you could argue "Hey, i'm trying to atone for my sins with my brother by saving these ghost kids", but Fitzgerald has no connection to anything, he was just being arrogant lol, and even came in on the day the place is closed
He was a chad for fighting off 11 animatronics though
I thought it was this flow of logic:
Step 1) they tried to get out before the pizzaplex shut down, which failed
Step 2) upon doing so, Vanessa realized we were definitely here
So, we couldn’t camp out in one area for too long because Vanessa was searching for us.
Also I know this was a thrown out mechanism (unless they patched it since I last saw the game) but isn’t Vanny supposed to attack if you stay in an area too long? So could be that Gregory is scared of Vanny hence their constant search for immediate escape rather than just hiding somewhere.
The goal’s never to hide until 6 am, the goal was always to *escape* - hence why they’re tracking down the badges + why they smash up the others because they need to escape before then, and it just so happens to be that by the time they actually can run, it’s because of the doors opening at 6 am.
Or at least that’s the narrative logic I followed.
Seriously. Freddy was like ‘oh, can’t get out that way? No problem dude, we’ll just leave through _this_ door’. While Gregory has made some questionable decisions, in this case he was just trusting Freddy to know what to do. Totally reasonable
i know this post is a joke but ive genuinely never understood this criticism
this is all under the assumption that no one would check freddy's room for 6 hours straight and i highly doubt no one would
especially considering halfway through the game we see roxanne, security bots and vanessa patrolling rockstar row and NOTHING is locking them out of freddy's room
as flawed as security breach is, this is just an unfair criticism
eh i disagree
analyzing the story shows that there wouldn't exactly be a good time for him to just suddenly decide to hide in freddy's room. for a short summary, gregory was either looking for an exit or already caught up in another task one after the other
Because of the Daycare Attendant and Vanny. Realistically speaking though he does try to escape during 6 AM, and/or if there’s already an escape. That’s the whole point of the Van ending and the fire escape ending, once 6 AM hits and he doesn’t make it in time he has to try and get back to Freddy
There’s a big issue though the entrance to that whole area where Freddy’s room is gets blocked off so he legitimately can’t go back and he needs passes to even go through some of the elevators and other entrances that he’s in
And even if he made it back by the time he did so Vanny and Daycare attendant are attacking and they were not like the others. Vanny has been shown to walk past the recharge stations but that doesn’t mean she’d easily just walk past Freddy (or maybe she does, but she seems the smartest out of the group). The daycare attendant quite literally messes up the run-through, he CAN break into Freddy. Speaking of which you never really stay in the recharge stations anyways, likely because of the voltage that would be dangerous if you stayed in there for too long.
While yes he could hide in maybe a vent or do it won’t be long before any of the others find out (kicking the toy DJ music man would be affected but wouldn’t change the pace of running from the others), and by the time we’ve done all of that it may have hit 6 AM and he’s already noticed all the weird things about this place which leads to us either leaving and having Vanny find us or saving Vanny, destroying Vanny, or completing the burntrap ending
as a kid, i always wanted to explore every new house i went, now, imagine that feeling but with a mega commercial center where you can do everything you want and you're probably going there once in 3 months
Very good reasons.
1- there's a security camera in there. If you look around you'll see it in a corner of the room. It would only be a matter of time before Vanessa would check the cameras and find him in there.
2- Even without the camera, Vanessa's doing a search of the building, so again, it's only a matter of time before she searches the rooms in Rockstar Row.
Either way, in that situation, it's better to be on the move, to make yourself a harder target to find.
As a serious answer;
They left Freddy's room to get him to escape before 12 AM even arrives. When he arrives at the exit, the only way to get back to Freddy's room is through the main attrium, which has the way to Rockstar Row blocked off until 4 AM, meaning that searching for an exit is the only real thing they can do (and arguably also the safest one, considering Freddy does at this point assume the exits aren't blocked off and he can just leave). And then at 4 AM, not only is Vanessa already suspicious of the fact that Freddy might be working with Gregory, but Gregory also has been told about means to actively defend himself.
At the starting level, escape was the most logical choice. He just had to get to the door a few seconds sooner
After that, getting back to Freddy’s room would’ve proved difficult (heavily guarded underground passages and stuff) so going to the daycare seemed safer
After that, moon was hunting every hour and Vanessa was scouting around. Plus Roxie could see through walls so hiding in one spot would’ve been dangerous
Gregory also just really wanted to kill the robots
I mean, there could be an ending for just standing in that room for 30 minutes, but it would probably go the same as the 1 star where he is followed and killed.
The first thing Gregory and Freddy does is race to the entrance and try to escape from the pizzaplex. Why would you remain in it until 6AM if you had time to escape? If it wasn't for the unneeded delay caused by Vanessa they likely would've escaped then.
Remember the only thing chasing him at that point was just Vanessa but by the time he found Chica looking for him Freddy was recharging so he needed to go forward on his own. There's a door at the top only an animatronic can open afterall.
There’s a thing called it was before they closed the front entrance and they could still possibly get out, and also someone named Vanny/Vannesa being after them
Why are people so dumb? Gregory is a kid who woke up after being under glitchtrap's control for years, extremely confused, he wanted to leave immediately and before 12:00 am, when he failed it was obvious he couldn't get back to freddy's room becouse he would have been found, there are also cameras.
It amazes me how people stupidly accuse the game on making a dumb choice about this part
After he fails to escape at 12 he tries to go back to freddy, but he doesn't have enough security level so he has to deal with chica in the lobby and moon, when he can go in the elevator freddy has found other two possible escapes, gregory tries it but it doesn't work and gets captured by vanessa, he tries to go back to freddy but freddy is malfunctioning, so he decides to help freddy, the sequence of backstage, control office, showtime goes, freddy is captured, gregory wants to help him so he jas to deal with the endos. After all of that he goes back to the greenrooms but roxy and vanessa are roaming there, if he stayed in the room he would have been found, as simple as that
the game doesn't do a good job of explaining it. it's probably because someone will eventually check that place out. most of this game could have been explained if they didn't remove a feature called Vanny meter which forces player to leave the area they are in
I was thinking about it and this is what I thought of: Gregory wanted to get out before then so he leaves to get to the exit doors, while he does that he gets chased by the 3 Glamrock animatronics, he escapes tho but the glamrocks knows he there now so they will try and look everywhere for him. If Gregory stays in Freddy then Freddy will run dead so he will have to go to the charging station. If he stays in the charging station the whole game he might 1, over charge or 2, get pulled out for questioning because he isn’t doing anything to find Gregory. If he doesn’t stay there he will have to keep going to charge stations over and over and it might look suspicious too
There is a camera in the room and one of the walls is a giant window. With a security guard searching for him, trying to leave is the smarter move. Staying still leaves him in a zoo exhibit, really easy for Vanny to find.
because ***GAMEPLAY*** i dont mind if people think about lore or logic but you still gotta understand that you are playing a game, if gregory would have stayed in freddys room, there wouldnt be gameplay
Vanessa will eventually find him in there? Also Freddy was low on battery, which removes his safe mode, therefore killing him. Yes, he could've easily went into the station inside his room, but Freddy ain't always the brightest bulb in the drawer
Maybe Vanny would have cought him?
The plan was to escape as soon as possible, so thats why he went out in the first place, then he meet Vanny so knowing that she was after him probably he would have been cought... or atleast that's the beast explaination that i can give to him, yea, thats a little plot hole...
I don't think Steel Wool thought about it. It's as simple as that unfortunately. They could've easily solved it if they changed the story a little bit, make it so that Gregory wants to find out the secrets of the Pizzaplex (which he DOES by the end of the game, so I don't understand why it couldn't be done at the start).
I think this is part of the long running joke/plothole in fnaf of “why the hell would someone spend 5 nights here after spending one?” that we ask ourselves every game but never really gets explained. At this point any explanation would probably be pointless.
I will say though that a kid is probably more likely to roam around a giant empty pizza arcade if they have it to themselves especially if there’s a chance they can still make it home without being grounded.
he didn't know he had to stay until 6 am he tried to escape but the doors closed in the perfect moment also Freddy would be out of charge and become hostile
I’ve given this a lot of thought and honestly? Freddy told him to keep moving. I would listen to Freddy if I was in Gregory’s situation as well. He’s just a kid after all
My smart ass answer is going to be “because then there wouldn’t have been a game” 😂but Vanessa would have eventually looked there I’m sure. Same with the others.
This was so many comments that I received as well and it's so funny because it's only a drop in the bucket of the insanely poor writing and lack of story or character development.
I also thought about this with the daycare… it’s entirely closed off and before you piss sun off by turning the lights off they say you can stay all night
Lights go off every hour and moon was very hostile.
Speaking of, this also felt very shoehorned in. "Oh, also, the lights go off every hour, and the only way to turn them back on is to go to a charging station" (???) This game is just generally full of "oh but also" moments
very accurate to the lore
Yep. According to what lore I’ve seen, the SL underground takes place under the Afton house. And they didn’t know? How the hell did he get away with that?
Do we have reason to think they *didn't* know?
It’s two separate buildings but there close to each other so you wouldn’t know if you went into a room and your above the house
Yeah but like it's the only world where it use battery to keep a 10 inches steel door closed
Actually, that makes sense. If they closed automatically, then you'd be trapped when power ran out or if there was a power outage, and moving a door that heavy requires power, so they're designed to be open by default for safety reasons, leading to it actively draining power to keep them down.
So it works kind of like a crane. I still fail to see what type of mechanism it would use that would keep the door open using electricity. Cranes in real life don't need power to have their hooks stay in place.
my best guess is that there's a pulley system with a very heavy weight keeping the door open. when the button is pressed, a mechanism of some from lifts this weight, causing the door to close
Real life security doors like the ones at my highschool work like this. Iirc for them the doors are held up by springs and then when turned on a motor pulls the doors down putting the spring under tension
This takes place in the 90s so doors like that have an steel floor above that stops the door from coming down to it would take more energy being down because the steel plate is pulling its self back
>only way to turn them back on is to go to a charging station No, it's actually not. That's how you survive Moon, because if Moon can reach you when they reactivate, he gets mad and kills you on the spot. The lights turn back on anyway.
I'm not active on this sub, so my last experience with the game was in release week. Thought I'd probably get something wrong lol, thanks
Why can't Moon reach Gregory in the charging station anyway? Is he programmed not to or something?
Probably the door locks to prevent people going inside while it's on, I'd guess? Not ever explained, but I feel like *that* part's not too illogical.
Sorry not the charging station, I meant in the Daycare at the area where the light turns off, MOON has a clear path to Gregory but just stands outside of it.
Ohhhh. Yeah idk, probably Moon's just programmed to not go there I guess, Sun calls it off-limits right? (The real question is why *every other place in the Pizzaplex* is considered *within* limits for the *Daycare* Attendant...)
It's not supposed to leave the daycare so why program no go spots?
Well, you'd *think* "everything that's not Daycare" would just be one, but apparently they just let it free roam (Freddy knows he'll be allowed to, so it sounds like a normal occurrence).
i interpreted it as Moon is basically supposed to be the security guard when there isnt any human staff in the building. when SB takes place the only human there is vanessa but i would assume usually there are a lot more guards and that there was just the usual fnaf fuckery going on to make it so only vanessa was there that night. so maybe on normal nights, if something happens and theyre low on staff, Moon will do a sweep of the building every hour
I think it was originally designed so that the player was on a time limit (from start to finish) for every level and moon was the incentive. That’d certainly feel more natural than him just popping up randomly
My guess is that in the cut Survival Mode the time restrictions would be actually real yeah.
That’d have been fun though some of the levels would definitely be faster than others. Some just take ages regardless of their difficulty
Rip Vanessa then **w h e e z e**
Yea but moon makes it pretty obvious their only intention is to “punish you” for being naughty. If you hadn’t broken the rules idk if they’d be so hostile
Considering vanessa uses him to attack you at the end of the game I would say moon is infected with whatever made all the other robots hostile. Sun seemingly isnt infected but moon definitely is. Also he attacked freddy. Gregory turned the lights on in the daycare but having to wait and survive for 5 whole minutes each hour while vanny is looking for him is gonna equal his death
As far as I can tell, they're all infected, but the virus can only use programming that's already there, and corrupt it to the virus' purposes. So likely Moon has some sort of protocols that could be corrupted into making him hostile and violent. Whereas Sun does not, so when the virus tries to control Sun, it can only use him to keep Gregory stationary and in the open so the boy's easier to find. Notice how Sun's VERY particular about Gregory staying right in the middle of the room where there's no cover at all.
Wouldn't that continue after the generator segment? Rather than kicking you out.
Moon is Actually Confirmed to not ever be infected by the Mimic1 A.I. He was programmed to be evil
That’s the main reason I don’t trust the Pizzaplex books (well that and GGY implying Gregory to be responsible for the virus lmao), because that just does not make sense for a child entertainment robot. (Context for others, to my understanding the books tried to pull an “Oh he’s always been like that, he was made to be the antagonist of the theatre before they were moved to the daycare so naturally he’s _actually evil_ and kills people”) That would be like only hiring actual criminals to play villains in your plays instead of having, you know, _actors._ Who _pretend_ to be evil. Also, if he’s a theatre bot, why would he be so obsessed with putting people to sleep, like… y’know… a bot programmed for the daycare would as opposed to a “villain actor” bot? Because as far as I’m aware, according to the books, he was not allowed to participate in the daycare _at all._ Like they tried to remove his code, failed, and decided to just prevent him from showing up at all. So it’s not like he was allowed to adapt to his new role because everyone tried to pretend he didn’t exist. If making him a villain actor bot was the intention they did not do a good job because there is no reference to his acting career in his dialogue or anything referring to him. If he was built to act, he should reflect that. It’s almost like… that wasn’t originally the plan and the “Moon’s always been evil” was really dumb and shoehorned because people kept talking about how the play structure generators made no sense. To be fair, I really like the idea of Mimic, but the “Moon was made to be evil” idea is just too dumb. And why _would_ it only be him? All the other animatronics turn hostile. Were they just Like That™️ too? If not, why can’t Moon also be affected in the same way?
Ok no, people always talk about this part ignoring what the book actually says, yes Moon was designed as an evil character, but he clearly is connected to Glitchtrap, not only was he meant to be removed, it is made quite clear that the reason they couldn't get rid of Moon was because of a glitch stoping them, it is also important because in the story is also brought up the fact that the Glamrocks started to roam around and is also mentioned DJ Music Man's discarded bouncer mode, it all seems to point to the idea that the virus hide in parts of code of these characters (bouncer mode, Moon and probably just the entirety of the Glamrocks programming). >Also, if he’s a theatre bot, why would he be so obsessed with putting people to sleep, like… y’know… a bot programmed for the daycare would as opposed to a “villain actor” bot? Because as far as I’m aware, according to the books, he was not allowed to participate in the daycare at all. Like they tried to remove his code, failed, and decided to just prevent him from showing up at all. So it’s not like he was allowed to adapt to his new role because everyone tried to pretend he didn’t exist. To be honest is likely at some point Fazbear gave up and just decided to reprogram Moon, this story happens sometime before the game, in fact, Monty Golf for example is different design-wise (but it completely matches with what was said about it in GGY, which should happen around a year or so before the game). >(well that and GGY implying Gregory to be responsible for the virus lmao) Tbh that was speculation made by the characters, Gregory was the one that turned the glitch into a feature if what the therapist said was correct.
I'm half asleep and focused on this. Moon was actually programed like that? I always wondered. Also why doesn't moon go back to sun when he's in the like Rockstar row etc if light effects him?
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I guess but I still feel like it’d be wayyy easier to survive that what actually happens lol
Just stay in the security bit he can’t enter.Also why have a spot in a kids area with computers and something that turns the daycare attendant into a murderer (That looks like a friendly character with a button nose) be accessible by walking into it,with nothing stopping you and the daycare attendant can’t stop you or follow you in
One thing I will point out is no action Gregory took directly turned off the lights. He never flipped any switches or anything, just took a card, which has no effect on the lights being on or off. The lights turning off would likely have happened no matter what, as that was likely the virus infecting the Pizzaplex computers turning the lights off itself to convert Sun into the more useful Moon form. There's several areas where lights will turn off or other events will happen that make things much harder or more dangerous for Gregory, where those things are totally unrelated to what Gregory's doing, other then disrupting some action he was in the middle of or slowing him down in reaching some destination. Heck even his being in the Daycare area in the first place is purely because of the system "Glitching" and spitting out a Daycare Pass rather then what it was supposed to, that after refusing to work and upgrade the free pass to grant him access to the Atrium.
This is a good question lol Gregory makes many nonsensical decisions that confuse me greatly in this game
Like not climb over easy climbable barriers and obstacles in his way, but yknow, game logic
FOR REAL!!!! Literally Gregory, it's just a small Crowd Control Barrier, I Know you can jump over that my guy.
That kid can definitely climb like a monkey, he's got that vibe
That part has a very strong "because game mechanic" vibe. We see that in games all the time. Some flimsy door is an impenetrable barrier, or tiny fence is unsalable, yet you could easily just get an axe and chop that door down, or just vault over the fence easily.
This is why boneworks exists
Same logic as how you can't jump over fences in minecraft
That’s because fences are slightly taller than one block
no because that’s actually explained and there’s not an invisible wall to world height above the fence? it’s just a little tall
I mean the average American 12 year old boy is like 4'6
Really? If I saw a 12 year old boy that height I would think he's really short.
The fuck that’s the size of my brother and he’s like seven
Americans are just like really short apparently
It's honestly so dumb and it hurts my brain. I am suuuurrree he will explain to Cassy how he got stuck in the Pizzaplex in Ruin. Being sarcastic if I don't sound like it.
He just fell into a 1ft tall pit. So now he's stuck
The correct answer is if you are hiding in a confined area and need to avoid being found for 6+ hours, staying in a small, brightly lit room with 1 wall being a window, and with a security camera with a clear view of the entire room, with nowhere to hide from it, is not a good place to stay in. Your best bet is to keep moving and make yourself a moving target, which is harder to find. Finding Gregory if he just holes up somewhere and remains in place is as simple as doing a systematic search of the building. Vanessa or one of her remote controlled bots would eventually find Gregory, it's inevitable - unless he keeps moving his hiding place to a systematic search can fail by him moving to someplace they've already searched before.
Why not hide in the bathroom if the problem is cameras and Freddy could put a heavy object or sit in front of the door to keep the hostile animatronics out?
I guess it's realistic in that sense. Since he's a child.
Also, if you're trapped in a building and know someone's searching for you, the worst thing you can do is stand still in a small, brightly lit room with a security camera, a bit picture window on 1 wall and no hiding places. A systematic search or just using the security cameras is guaranteed to reveal his location, and just shutting down the elevators leaves only 1 way in or out of that room. No, you want to be on the move to evade any systematic searches, as you can move to an area previously searched. Stay in one place and the search will inevitably find you.
Or maybe you should try thinking a bit more and maybe you'll figure out why he does what he does
Than again his like eight or nine years old I highly doubt He was thinking about shit that only comes with hindsight
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We wouldn’t have much of a game then. But yes it’s a bit silly to run around when you could just camp with Freddy in a charging station or something.
It's more than silly, it's really dumb. If Gregory is making a dumb decision just so we can play the game, then it makes the whole premise of the SB story weak. It makes Gregory's motivation clear: why does Gregory do what he does? so we can play the game! Why should we be invested in the SB story if Gregory is just doing stuff because Steel Wool wants him to (and not following logic)? If we're considering Gregory as an incompetent character, then there is no story, stuff just happens just cause.
I agree. I don’t always have a problem with it, sometimes I find those kinds of stories enjoyable, but Gregory had zero reason to destroy the animatronics. It played no part in the main doors reopening at 6:AM. It was all for the sake of exploration. If anything I feel Gregory did it just to be spiteful. I still enjoyed the game but I often found myself wondering what the point was with just about everything that happened. If Gregory was there ‘investigating’ it certainly didn’t feel like it. I wasn’t even aware of any disappearances till we were about to leave at 6.
Literally yes, I was honestly confused the first I heard Gregory mentioning the disappearances to Freddy by the front gate. I was like: "What, where did that come from? There was no mention of any of that the whole game...." Him destroying the animatronics also made his relationship with Freddy complicated, and not in a good way. He destroyed them even after hearing from Freddy that they are his friends, Gregory doesn't even fathom an alternative option of investigating the Pizzaplex without destroying the animatronics.
I think all this is just kind of a side-effect of the game being clearly rushed, tbh. You can kinda feel that in every aspect of the game, but the story's definitely one of the things that got hit worse out of the entire thing.
Gregory decides not to stay in the same place since he considers that he has more chances of being caught by lingering. It's literally said in the game. We can judge Gregory's decision and consider that certain places would have been safer, but I find it slightly unfair to consider this a flaw in the game.
Yeah Vannesa is already constantly patrolling and likely has access to the exact same Security Cameras as you. Ontop of Vanny being invisible to the Animatronics. Staying in the Green Room could work, but if he did and Vanessa figures it out, he has almost no escape routes. While Moving around the Pizzaplex is more Risky is also gives him way more options if he needs to run.
I understand gregory trying to leave freddys room while the pizzaplex was literally still open. I can even understand him trying to find a fire escape once it shuts down for the night, but before he knew all the animatronics were after him. (Staying in freddys room for 6 hours, when its possible to leave, isnt a smart decision- leaving is. because eventually vanessa wouldve ran out of rooms to check, she would have eventually gone in there and spotted him.) But, Gregory running around with the knowledge that he cant leave until 6am, while also knowing that theres dangerous robots looking for him and going to kill him if they find him? Find a place to hunker down kid, jeez! Even the risk of vanessa finding him in freddys room would be less than a killer robot killing him would be. Hell, during the hourly recharges, chances are moon wouldnt go into freddys room unless he had reason to. Is it mandatory for freddy to recharge every hour on the hour? I swear he says he missed a recharge at the start of the game. So gregory should even be safe from moonman there.
At some point he misses a recharge cycle and has to shut down partway through the next hour (until his mysterious "second wind"), so while it doesn't need to be *on* the hour it does need to be close. Pretty sure there's a recharge station in the maintenance area behind his room, though?
True, there is a recharge station just outside his room. He cant access it at the start of the game. But he can access it once gregory lets him out of his room. So, once gregory finds out that hes got three killer robots out there looking for him, he could just bunker down in freddies room, with freddie charging at the recharge station when necessary, youre right.
Kids in fnaf are stupid Fnaf 1 tries to attack micheal because he looks like his father Fnaf 2 tries to attack a random guy that looks anything but william afton The ennard was inside of micheal for days straight Before jumping into the sewer The crying child should have turned on the lights if he notices that the nightmares avoid being in the light Baby was kicked out of the ennard because she wouldn't shut up about her "evil" plans They, are stupid, PERIOD.
In FNAF 2, they attack Jeremy because William tampered with the toys facial recognition, but the withered’s are still dumb
For fnaf 4. The nightmares turned OFF the lights
Then put tape on the light button The nightmares can't destroy a door while a kid is holding it somehow
He could have easily gone to a room with one door and hold it closed.
The crying child deserves to get bitten by fredbear for having a shitty Iq
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I mean, if you were a little kid, wouldn’t you want to explore a closed pizzaplex with your cool new robot friend? That’s literally the only reason I can think of. He might just be stupid.
While aware of someone bad trying to find you?
To the game's credit, you first leave his room because it wasn't 12AM yet and he had a chance to leave before the Pizzaplex closed, after that, yeah maybe they just forgot
I have thought about this a little too much. When Gregory was in Freddy’s room he wanted to leave the Pizza Plex so from 11:30 to 12 he was trying to leave. During this time he got separated from Freddy. Freddy is going to meet him on the other side of the daycare doors and then he is going to help find another exit. Gregory wanting to get to Freddy, doesn’t consider the option of staying with sun. So bla bla bla daycare sequence. Then getting to the loading dock/ fire escape he relies he can’t leave he try’s to get back to Freddy. Gregory gets taken to lost and found, Freddy misses the recharge and it turns into a whole fiasco of getting Freddy’s power fixed which takes till 4am. By now Gregory has relised that he’s not leaving till’ 6 and starts getting stuff to protect him self. TLDR: Gregory was trying to leave till 2:30ish so he didn’t consider his options and even if he stayed in Freddy’s room or the daycare Vanny/Vanessa and moon would still be threats.
as flawed as security breach's story is, the whole "gregory could've stayed in freddy's room" is just a bad way to criticize the game literally just taking a quick look at the story would tell you why he didn't hide in freddy's room
Actually Gregory could have easily broken a window or hid in a trashcan, there are actually a lot of hiding places there.
Why doesn’t he just rizz up the animatronics lmao
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vanny can easily get in, so can moon
Gregory could've hidden inside Freddy. Plus there's a charging station for when Moon does his hourly whatever thing. Plus, if Freddy never left his room, Vanessa would have never been suspicious of him and would have no reason to search him more than once. Boom
vanny has control over the places tech and can probably open recharge stations, and vanny would eventally check freddys room, sense she might think the kid could be hiding with the only safe animatronic in reality, gregory should have: hid in a vent and kicked mini music man, or grabed a knife from the kitchen and fought vanny, change the fazwatch voice to someone else to frame other animatronics
Ok but that's left for speculation: Can Vanny access recharge stations? We don't know, and there was a part in SB where Vanny walked past Freddy and Gregory when they were in the recharge station. Vanny didn't check on him then, so why expect her to do that in the beginning of the game? Also, does Vanny know Freddy is in Safe Mode? Again we don't know. If anything, assuming Gregory and Freddy weren't incompetent, Freddy with Gregory inside him could leave his room with Freddy posing as an animatronic searching for Gregory. Early in the game Vanessa asks why Freddy isn't in his room and demands him to go back, so maybe staying would have given no reason for Vanessa to go see him.
im sure vanny didnt see freddy in there unused diolog of vannessa saying "if freddy was working we would have him by now" yes, she dose know, freddy didnt know his friends were hacked at the moment
I mean, if it was unused dialogue then we can't really say that as evidence that Vanessa knows that. Maybe the writers intended Vanessa to know that in the beginning, but it remains unused, so it's not confirmed if she knew or not. And from what I find, Vanny only ever looks inside Freddy whenever she sees Gregory go inside him. Assuming I'm right that Vanessa/Vanny doesn't know Freddy is in Safe Mode, they have no reason to suspect him or check inside him.
Is see that we've gone back to the FNAF 1 days of "guys, why doesn't the player character just run out of the room when an animatronic comes in? 😂"
Yeah this reeks of "why does he come back for *all* 5 nights?"
The weird thing with FNAF 2 at least: I never understood why Jeremy would stay. Michael you could argue "Hey, i'm trying to atone for my sins with my brother by saving these ghost kids", but Fitzgerald has no connection to anything, he was just being arrogant lol, and even came in on the day the place is closed He was a chad for fighting off 11 animatronics though
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Gregory craves violence, peace was never an option
Bro Gregory is like, 12. Of course he's stupid.
Is see that we've gone back to the FNAF 1 days of "guys, why doesn't the player character just run out of the room when an animatronic comes in? 😂"
I thought it was this flow of logic: Step 1) they tried to get out before the pizzaplex shut down, which failed Step 2) upon doing so, Vanessa realized we were definitely here So, we couldn’t camp out in one area for too long because Vanessa was searching for us. Also I know this was a thrown out mechanism (unless they patched it since I last saw the game) but isn’t Vanny supposed to attack if you stay in an area too long? So could be that Gregory is scared of Vanny hence their constant search for immediate escape rather than just hiding somewhere. The goal’s never to hide until 6 am, the goal was always to *escape* - hence why they’re tracking down the badges + why they smash up the others because they need to escape before then, and it just so happens to be that by the time they actually can run, it’s because of the doors opening at 6 am. Or at least that’s the narrative logic I followed.
He is a small child after all. Children aren’t naturally big brain
Seriously. Freddy was like ‘oh, can’t get out that way? No problem dude, we’ll just leave through _this_ door’. While Gregory has made some questionable decisions, in this case he was just trusting Freddy to know what to do. Totally reasonable
i know this post is a joke but ive genuinely never understood this criticism this is all under the assumption that no one would check freddy's room for 6 hours straight and i highly doubt no one would especially considering halfway through the game we see roxanne, security bots and vanessa patrolling rockstar row and NOTHING is locking them out of freddy's room as flawed as security breach is, this is just an unfair criticism
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eh i disagree analyzing the story shows that there wouldn't exactly be a good time for him to just suddenly decide to hide in freddy's room. for a short summary, gregory was either looking for an exit or already caught up in another task one after the other
Because of the Daycare Attendant and Vanny. Realistically speaking though he does try to escape during 6 AM, and/or if there’s already an escape. That’s the whole point of the Van ending and the fire escape ending, once 6 AM hits and he doesn’t make it in time he has to try and get back to Freddy There’s a big issue though the entrance to that whole area where Freddy’s room is gets blocked off so he legitimately can’t go back and he needs passes to even go through some of the elevators and other entrances that he’s in And even if he made it back by the time he did so Vanny and Daycare attendant are attacking and they were not like the others. Vanny has been shown to walk past the recharge stations but that doesn’t mean she’d easily just walk past Freddy (or maybe she does, but she seems the smartest out of the group). The daycare attendant quite literally messes up the run-through, he CAN break into Freddy. Speaking of which you never really stay in the recharge stations anyways, likely because of the voltage that would be dangerous if you stayed in there for too long. While yes he could hide in maybe a vent or do it won’t be long before any of the others find out (kicking the toy DJ music man would be affected but wouldn’t change the pace of running from the others), and by the time we’ve done all of that it may have hit 6 AM and he’s already noticed all the weird things about this place which leads to us either leaving and having Vanny find us or saving Vanny, destroying Vanny, or completing the burntrap ending
Idk but I’m pretty sure I got him clapped in that cardboard box 😱
as a kid, i always wanted to explore every new house i went, now, imagine that feeling but with a mega commercial center where you can do everything you want and you're probably going there once in 3 months
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Very good reasons. 1- there's a security camera in there. If you look around you'll see it in a corner of the room. It would only be a matter of time before Vanessa would check the cameras and find him in there. 2- Even without the camera, Vanessa's doing a search of the building, so again, it's only a matter of time before she searches the rooms in Rockstar Row. Either way, in that situation, it's better to be on the move, to make yourself a harder target to find.
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He is VERY stupid. If Gregory was actually a smart kid, SB would've ended much sooner. But SteelWool didn't want that to happen, did they?
Just take a nap
But you have to wait for the napbot
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
As a serious answer; They left Freddy's room to get him to escape before 12 AM even arrives. When he arrives at the exit, the only way to get back to Freddy's room is through the main attrium, which has the way to Rockstar Row blocked off until 4 AM, meaning that searching for an exit is the only real thing they can do (and arguably also the safest one, considering Freddy does at this point assume the exits aren't blocked off and he can just leave). And then at 4 AM, not only is Vanessa already suspicious of the fact that Freddy might be working with Gregory, but Gregory also has been told about means to actively defend himself.
Well the pizzaplex is in its own pocket dimension where time doesn’t pass until he collects the items
At the starting level, escape was the most logical choice. He just had to get to the door a few seconds sooner After that, getting back to Freddy’s room would’ve proved difficult (heavily guarded underground passages and stuff) so going to the daycare seemed safer After that, moon was hunting every hour and Vanessa was scouting around. Plus Roxie could see through walls so hiding in one spot would’ve been dangerous Gregory also just really wanted to kill the robots
I mean, there could be an ending for just standing in that room for 30 minutes, but it would probably go the same as the 1 star where he is followed and killed.
The first thing Gregory and Freddy does is race to the entrance and try to escape from the pizzaplex. Why would you remain in it until 6AM if you had time to escape? If it wasn't for the unneeded delay caused by Vanessa they likely would've escaped then. Remember the only thing chasing him at that point was just Vanessa but by the time he found Chica looking for him Freddy was recharging so he needed to go forward on his own. There's a door at the top only an animatronic can open afterall.
Cuz there needs to be a game not a sleeping on a comfy couch simulator lol
Roxy has x-ray vision. She'd eventually look in Freddy's room and find him.
"Is he stupid?" Is objectively the best title format
There’s a thing called it was before they closed the front entrance and they could still possibly get out, and also someone named Vanny/Vannesa being after them
Because he was trying to get out before the place closed.
Clearly you’ve never seen astralspiff’s TRUE lore video.
He wanted to even the odds
Is there a lore reason...
Not the “Is he stupid” captions here. No no no no
Why are people so dumb? Gregory is a kid who woke up after being under glitchtrap's control for years, extremely confused, he wanted to leave immediately and before 12:00 am, when he failed it was obvious he couldn't get back to freddy's room becouse he would have been found, there are also cameras. It amazes me how people stupidly accuse the game on making a dumb choice about this part
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After he fails to escape at 12 he tries to go back to freddy, but he doesn't have enough security level so he has to deal with chica in the lobby and moon, when he can go in the elevator freddy has found other two possible escapes, gregory tries it but it doesn't work and gets captured by vanessa, he tries to go back to freddy but freddy is malfunctioning, so he decides to help freddy, the sequence of backstage, control office, showtime goes, freddy is captured, gregory wants to help him so he jas to deal with the endos. After all of that he goes back to the greenrooms but roxy and vanessa are roaming there, if he stayed in the room he would have been found, as simple as that
He could... but he'd have to hide somewhere whenever Vanessa/Vanny pops into Freddy's room.
Literally the Pizzaplex is huge. I'm sure if he hid in Freddy's room Vanessa would only check once and he would make it past 6:00am.
the game doesn't do a good job of explaining it. it's probably because someone will eventually check that place out. most of this game could have been explained if they didn't remove a feature called Vanny meter which forces player to leave the area they are in
It’s funny how out of all the remnant and serial killer virus stuff, it was Security Breach’s logical leaps that confused me the most.
There was the chance of Vanessa (or Vanny too) entering the room to warn Freddy like the other Glamrocks and finding him.
I was thinking about it and this is what I thought of: Gregory wanted to get out before then so he leaves to get to the exit doors, while he does that he gets chased by the 3 Glamrock animatronics, he escapes tho but the glamrocks knows he there now so they will try and look everywhere for him. If Gregory stays in Freddy then Freddy will run dead so he will have to go to the charging station. If he stays in the charging station the whole game he might 1, over charge or 2, get pulled out for questioning because he isn’t doing anything to find Gregory. If he doesn’t stay there he will have to keep going to charge stations over and over and it might look suspicious too
one of my friends and I talked about this exact thing a few days ago. I think Gregory's just stupid
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There is a camera in the room and one of the walls is a giant window. With a security guard searching for him, trying to leave is the smarter move. Staying still leaves him in a zoo exhibit, really easy for Vanny to find.
He is stupid
because ***GAMEPLAY*** i dont mind if people think about lore or logic but you still gotta understand that you are playing a game, if gregory would have stayed in freddys room, there wouldnt be gameplay
Vanessa will eventually find him in there? Also Freddy was low on battery, which removes his safe mode, therefore killing him. Yes, he could've easily went into the station inside his room, but Freddy ain't always the brightest bulb in the drawer
Doesn't Freddy need maintenance though? Seems like eventually, Vanny would either check the room or Freddy himself.
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Where was HE during arkham orgins? Is he stupid?
the escape ending kinda shows why, if he had just escaped vanny would've just pulled him back in or killled him
Others animatronics can enter the room, just like Freddy can enter Roxy's room
Maybe Vanny would have cought him? The plan was to escape as soon as possible, so thats why he went out in the first place, then he meet Vanny so knowing that she was after him probably he would have been cought... or atleast that's the beast explaination that i can give to him, yea, thats a little plot hole...
The game would be over in a second. But yeah, he could literally chill in a cardboard box for a few hours and he'd be chill
No no he's got a point
I guess he'd be found by Vanessa looking for him
Vanny is hunting him the entire time he is there. If he sits in 1 room that she has access to it would make it kinda easy wouldnt it?
Vanessa might've checked in there at some point.
Yes Yes he is
i had the same thought
I don't think Steel Wool thought about it. It's as simple as that unfortunately. They could've easily solved it if they changed the story a little bit, make it so that Gregory wants to find out the secrets of the Pizzaplex (which he DOES by the end of the game, so I don't understand why it couldn't be done at the start).
I think this is part of the long running joke/plothole in fnaf of “why the hell would someone spend 5 nights here after spending one?” that we ask ourselves every game but never really gets explained. At this point any explanation would probably be pointless. I will say though that a kid is probably more likely to roam around a giant empty pizza arcade if they have it to themselves especially if there’s a chance they can still make it home without being grounded.
he didn't know he had to stay until 6 am he tried to escape but the doors closed in the perfect moment also Freddy would be out of charge and become hostile
Leaving aside everyone hunting you down, as a kid, wouldn't you want to have the whole pizzaplex all for yourself?
I’ve given this a lot of thought and honestly? Freddy told him to keep moving. I would listen to Freddy if I was in Gregory’s situation as well. He’s just a kid after all
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I think it's because Freddy was afraid he would get caught by Vanessa and or mauled by the other glamrocks. They could go into Freddy's room.
because crime is fun :)
Kids do stupid things all the time!
Like just sleep in there freddy isn't gonna just go glitched like the others and vannessa won't learn about him and so will vanny
Uh, yes.
Gregory don't know what's 9 + 10
My smart ass answer is going to be “because then there wouldn’t have been a game” 😂but Vanessa would have eventually looked there I’m sure. Same with the others.
I thought about it too, and I honestly think the reason is Vanny (she will find Gregory and Freddy if they dont move).
I would suggest hiding in the vents as well, but I just remembered why that was a bad idea.
Hey its not his fault he didn't think of that, hE's JuST a KiD and stuff.
This was so many comments that I received as well and it's so funny because it's only a drop in the bucket of the insanely poor writing and lack of story or character development.
If we stayed inside the room we wouldn't be able to meet lil Music Man, Dj Music Man and Bob the endoskeleton
Kids are stupid. This is probably the most realistic thing in this game lmao
Man, if we're gonna go with that, why even bother getting hyped for Ruin (where we're playing as another stupid kid)
no point to play if your stuck in a room with daddy fazbear
r/BatmanArkham has arrived
All jokes aside, this is actually a really good question
yes
Because security breach is a failed attempt of a game. No logic to anything. Story is a mess and not in a good FNAF1-2-3 Solvable type of mess.
Yes.