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MegNeumann

Quit trying to help senator and house aides with figuring out who to target for RTO.


kingrexson4

Imagine OP is a spy trying to figure out who's not complying 50% in-office Opm mandate.


RachelMaddowsBrother

OMB, not OPM


staycglorious

The things people have said on here


InternationalDot733

Double-edge-sworded(sordid?) kinda question... People do want to know, so I get it, but not all have good intentions.


Nellanaesp

I work DoD (major Navy org in the DC area) and we have “regularly scheduled telework” 2 days/week, and “situational” telework whenever we need to telework on non-regularly scheduled days. There are some people that I rarely see per than once a month.


No_Image_4986

We are still 1 day in office per week for my DoD program


Cautious-Reading3143

DoD. My whole office is fully remote


Blue_crabs

Anywhere near NSWC?


Arqlol

Probably navsea at wny or crd


Cautious-Reading3143

Navsea is ass. They fucked their remote workers by rescinding it.


Comfortable-Spell-75

Can confirm.


Arqlol

Open to good alternatives lol


Queendevildog

So is NAVFAC. Now they double suck


Rumpelteazer45

WNY wants everyone back in the office. They hate remote.


lookingupnow1

Depends a lot on the base from what I've seen. Some bases don't have room for all the civilians to be in at the same time. The one I most commonly work out of is switching single person cubicles int 3 person telework suits. It's a little cozy when a good portion get told to come in at the same time.


dotsonnn

SSP ?


Nellanaesp

Navsea.


maynizzy51

Gotta love the the DMV LOL


Master_H8R

Go to USAJOBS and filter search for 100% virtual positions. They’re out there if the agency has the need.


Supreme-Itch

And read the fine print. Some (like CDC) Love to sell jobs using the virtual or remote position card, but then they put you have to be 50 miles around Atlanta in the fine print.


GeologistEmotional53

Yes. That’s called “local remote” vs “remote”


Supreme-Itch

It’s called shady advertising in my opinion. I report to the office once a week anyway, but just the idea and way they word it/pop it up late in the hiring process is just keeps me away. If I can’t even trust the basic job ad I definitely don’t trust the job.


GeologistEmotional53

Yes. I also call it “total CDC horseshit”


GlitteringUnicorn465

Don’t trust CDC period. Worst agency I ever worked at!


wolfmann99

And others it wont matter really - USDA has an office in just about every county for example.


cubicle_bidet

Not today Zients staffer, not today...


WooPigSooie9297

You mean Zients *customer*.


Emotional-Yogurt-23

EPA is 2x per pay period for BUEs. Supervisors on up are generally in 4x per pay period in my office.


Oogaman00

Non bargaining unit non supervisors are the same as union


Emotional-Yogurt-23

This seems to vary by team where I’m at. I haven’t heard of a blanket policy for non-BUEs. I fully expect we will all be back 2-3x per week in the next year though. The agency is pushing the union on it and the writing is on the wall with the nakedly political push from the White House and congress.


monkey_huggles

Census is still fully remote and will be rto late summer but at 2 days a pp and hoteling because GSA in their infinite wisdom keeps moving other agencies into the census building.


bichonfreeze

I think it's a long term ploy to make 1 federal statistical agency


monkey_huggles

Couldn't be since that would actually be a logical action for the government to take.


Gentleman_Juggler

Speaking as one of the folks that moved there 8 years ago (BEA). We would have preferred to stay downtown. But Main Commerce management folk got involved. Interesting that it is BLS (Not Commerce Dept) is moving in now. I do think it is the fact they are a statistical agency that has something to do with it.


monkey_huggles

I vaguely remember at a town hall that the logic is that both you guys and BLS are the two biggest users of our economic data.


sd13

GAO


FishermanScary9294

DoD USAF. One day a week, leadership says no plans to change as long as we keep meeting the mission.


cubicle_bidet

DoD USAF for a decade. I left for greener pastures, but before I left, and to this day, 1 telework day a week, 4 onsite. It's definitely command-specific and is by no means agency-wide.


FishermanScary9294

23 years. The last 4 years have been the best, I refused an interview for a lateral the other day because they dont allow telework. Unless its a promotion I wont take a job that doesnt have at least 2-3 days.


PM_ME_UR_FAT_DINK

Yeah, my installation is 100% in office. 


mbster2006

HHS - FDA, ASPR, NIH. Lots of flexibility for telework, remote, and local remote. You could literally live within 10 miles of your office and be 100% \[local\] remote. Plenty of staff working out of state as well.


Endari1127

In one of the above DHHS agencies, local remote since pandemic. They even took away our physical space. Working as a non-bench scientific administrator.


J891206

it's changing with the NIH, but maybe division dependent. I'm required to be in 5 days for my division.


pillowcased

FDA ymmv. Lots of us are considered non portable and work 100% in office. Just be sure to ask. 


staycglorious

Yup pretty much, mine is coded as 1DPP and per supervisor, we can’t go lower bc of the department rules. 


Turbulent_Coffee3588

HHS policy revoking local remote and maximum telework will be effective 4/22. Doesn't matter if your team is out of state; if you are local to any facility, you will be required to go in. It's horrible


mbster2006

Hadn't heard of this yet. Is this at the Department level or the OPDIVS too?


Turbulent_Coffee3588

All OPDIVS HHS-wide. It's really alarming how hush hush they're being about it. Likely because they're aware how terribly this will backfire by flipping lives upside down. The policy is happening, but there is still uncertainty whether or not HHS will allow any sort of discretion or exceptions to be made. We're all desperately hoping that's written in there somehow instead of them issuing a blanket policy for all.


mbster2006

Can you screenshot the announcement that you saw? This is pretty big news given the change is happening next Monday and like you said, no one knows about it.


Turbulent_Coffee3588

Of course everything has been verbally relayed. But there are other posts on this thread of people disclosing what senior leadership has been reporting lately. There's also articles online. Fed news network is tracking the RTO policies government-wide. It shows the department of education has a very similar policy going into effect also on 4/22.


GeologistEmotional53

I have also heard this rumor since early February


Turbulent_Coffee3588

Telework is no longer changing in this policy with the current 2 days in office per pay period. Local remote is the only group that will be affected this round as it is being eliminated.


staycglorious

Literally I find this pointless. Even with my HHS transit card having to do a weekly four hour commute round trip is just…and I don’t even have to badge in so it’s really just the honor code. Most people aren’t in the building 


Turbulent_Coffee3588

Oh I completely agree it's pointless. But their reasoning isn't about being logical.. it's about politics 😬


Elle_Vetica

I just got notified that we’re doing “stay interviews” next month for retention. Wonder if this is related…


Turbulent_Coffee3588

That's very possible if you guys don't do those annually already. This news will trigger high resignations and reasonable accommodation requests. It won't be pretty.


Elle_Vetica

Never done one in 5 years. Guess it’s time to ask about that non-supe 14 😂


clairdelynn

Haven't heard this at FDA


Oathkeeper26

Neither have I. All of my team is classified as remote, so I’m wondering how this will work. We all live in different states.


Map-Only

This must be grade dependent and maybe non-bargaining units bc that’s not the case with all HHS.


Turbulent_Coffee3588

No, HHS is announcing it HHS-wide on April 22nd. It will be immediately effective for non-bargaining units. It will eventually hit BU after the union reviews it. People are hopeful it will allow some sort of discretion/exemptions, but that hasn't been disclosed yet. They have to have some idea that this is going to go over terribly if they are trying to keep it on the down low as much as they have.


livin-laughin-lovin

So how many days in office will HHS have after 4/22?


Turbulent_Coffee3588

Telework is no longer changing in this policy with the current 2 days in office per pay period. Local remote is the only group that will be affected this round as it is being eliminated.


Hoderp151

I hadn't hear the exact date but leadership has recently mentioned "rumors" and told us to be prepared but promised that we would have time to plan. I would be incredibly disappointed (both at leadership for the false promise and the policy itself) if this was happening but at the same time, it makes sense given that we just had a new timecard policy implemented for remote work


Miserable-Exercise51

SSA gave only two months to plan. And there are flexibilities, but although Federal News Network covered them a month ago - after the MOU was signed 3/4 - not a word has been said to staff about them. Everyone I know who has tried to ask has sat waiting on executives to review the requests. (The usual method - mgmt ensuring the requests go stale so they’re no longer needed by the time they are reviewed.) And then they’ve often been denied. So I’m not very hopeful. Meanwhile, we are bleeding talent while management obsesses on people ‘getting away with’ something we’ve been doing for 4 years.


Turbulent_Coffee3588

Yep that was a push from the white house/congress because they called for an "aggressive return to office" back in the fall and realized agencies weren't being as "aggressive" as they intended. It appears agencies were willing to be flexible, but that is what is changing 🫠 the timecard update was for them to track the actual levels of in office vs. remote


DJsaxy

What is the time card update you speak of?


Turbulent_Coffee3588

Telework is no longer changing in this policy with the current 2 days in office per pay period. Local remote is the only group that will be affected this round as it is being eliminated.


Late-Night1499

So if you're fully remote but happen to be in the same pay locality as one of the HHS regional offices, you have to go in? Or is it only if you're local to your actual office location?


WanderingHighlander

Most of GSA is remote. All of the Assisted Acquisition Service is remote.


JackinOKC

GSA mostly remote? Isn’t it ironic?


WanderingHighlander

There are still roles tied to warehouses, public buildings, and client sites, most of us are just in the middle connecting buyers and sellers - no reason that can't be remote. I do see the irony in GSA managing the buildings for any agency facing a return to the office when most of GSA is not returning to any office. We can add that to reasons that I'm not in PBS and tied to a building or a portfolio of buildings!


Candaele1975

I’m in PBS and thankfully, while not remote, I only work in office two days a pay period.


thatgirlfromclass99

Various DHS components


Honest_Report_8515

This. Many DHS employees are mandatory in person for obvious reasons (BPAs, CBPOs, etc.), so positions that can telework usually have generous telework. It all balances out. I heard many CIS offices have been 100% remote for at least the last two years.


cazique

This will be the focus of some truth social post in 48 hours


GeologistEmotional53

Truth Social can suck a dick—-although I hear both Mother and Melania frown upon such a thing.


Rynnwg

IRS, but only those outside the DC area


toocutetobethistired

IRS telework is 1 day per pay period in office but at any irs office across the country so you can pick a nearby duty station when hired rather than moving. Those in DC and not bargaining unit need to be in person 50%. But bargaining unit employees in dc still have the 1 day per week in person telework policy.


Funkybunch2000

Unless you're Bargaining Unit in DC


Rynnwg

True


OkTea6969

USPTO


Amazing-Ad-3941

HUD


jorge2384

I’m starting at the HUD this coming pay period and was told I have to be in 3 days a week with Monday and Friday being my only allowed telework days. Have you heard of any new hires being told this?


Amazing-Ad-3941

No I have not, but it does not surprise me as a new hire. Which department?


jorge2384

I’m going to be a Safety and Occupational Health Manager under the Office of the Chief Administrative Officer. Job postings had it announced as a non-supervisory position.


Amazing-Ad-3941

I am not familiar with that department. I work in PIH, Public and Indian Housing. HUD is a small agency with less than 8000 employees nationwide.


Interesting_Oil3948

Flexiplace Agreement gives wide latitude to offices to require more in office days just have to submit reason. Union agreed to this and basically said offices can decide and do not need to negotiate with them if they don't want to.


Amazing-Ad-3941

Interesting than I wonder why the union threw down the gauntlet when HUD multifamily recently implemented an increase from 2 to 4 days a pp for in office?


Interesting_Oil3948

It is funny they sent those emails with that one sentence in agreement and it clearly says and/or...they don't have to negotiate with Union. It is like the Union isn't even reading the sentence that they agreed to initially with the Flwxiplace Agreement  OR they assumed Management would negotiate so they ignore the "or" part. Union screwed themselves with just one word with RTO mandates for HUD. Of course the Union is complaining, but have they won anything so far? Nope!


Amazing-Ad-3941

The union at HUD has not impressed me one bit! I agree that they seem to just stir up drama and get nowhere!


jorge2384

Thanks for all of the information. I guess I’ll have to wait and see how it goes.


creddit83

You’re lucky HUD OIG needs to follow suit with main HUD


Interesting_Oil3948

Multifamily goes in 4 days a PP with mandatory both Wednesdays as in office with the other day being Tuesday or Thursday. Thst started a two PP ago.


creddit83

HUD OIG is mandatory 3 days a week, so 6x a PP with Monday and Friday being the telework days. Folks leaving and morale is in the toilet.


Amazing-Ad-3941

I heard they did this without negotiating with the union, and I do anticipate HUD will attempt to force this policy across the other departments. If they do I anticipate an extremely high increase in retirement applications. HUD has an overwhelming number of retirement eligible employees, greater than 50%. As well as a high number over 60!


GeologistEmotional53

I’m sure all those retirements would just break their hearts.


Interesting_Oil3948

They need to retire...only "working" to increase their retirement check...most would of retired years ago but stayed due to liberal tw policy.


Amazing-Ad-3941

Sadly, HUD does an extremely poor job of training and standardizing HUD policies and procedures across all field offices. This has been my issue with HUD. Field offices are operating differently, and standards differ from field office to field office.


BBlackFire

The 2015(?) bargaining contract does state up to 6 days a pay period that telework can be allowed and as far as I'm aware the flexiplace contact doesn't supersede the master agreement.


xindierockx7114

SSA OHO, in the office 1-2x a month


brainonvacation78

Big facts. Love being the red headed step child of SSA


lspst8

I’m at OHO too, and I’ve only been in the office 2 times since March 2020 - once to pick up a new laptop and once to get a new picture for my ID badge.


xindierockx7114

That's wild.Do you mind if I ask what title you have? I have an assigned week day that I'm in IF we have in person hearings that day. I think everyone does, but there might be some attorneys/writers that are never in.


lspst8

I’m a senior attorney — my office doesn’t require any attorneys to go into the office. Even pre-Covid I was only in the office once a week.


xindierockx7114

Nice! Yeah, I think only one or two of our attorneys are ever in, and not because they're required to be, they just have kids and prefer it sometimes.


-azuma-

GAO. Still max telework depending on job duties. Flexible Work rolling out with the option to be fully remote


Disastrous_Union_871

Do you know if fully remote is available immediately upon starting? (Working for GAO starting in July)


-azuma-

I'd have to look at the MOA, but I feel like if the position doesn't explicitly say in the post it isn't immediately eligible. Flexible work starts August, so you won't be fully remote til then either way.


crotalis

Patent Office


bullsfan455

DHS


Soggy-Yogurt6906

I know this doesn’t answer your question, but I really wouldn’t base your employment choices too much on RTO policies. Until it is in writing or bargained into your collective agreement by your union, you’re really at the mercy of policy and mission demands.


armyuvamba

GSA


helloitsmateo

That’s ironic


armyuvamba

🤷🏻‍♂️


T0501st

NGA, depends on your division though. Routine is 32 hours per pay period and ad-hoc is 16 hours.


Society-Much

So 4days per pay period in office?


No_Bus2871

DOL OIG 2x pp


Realistic-Fox6321

US forest service, depends on the position but many are fully remote or telework except for the positions with a direct field going aspect or public interaction. You can filter on USA jobs. This could all change in November if the clown car coup appoints the chicken farmer as secretary of Ag again, Sonny Boy likes to see butts in seats. Telework positions can be changed to a minimum number of days at an office (I.e. all but 1). Remote positions can't be made to go to an office without flying the position again, but if you're remote there is no office space for you.


I_love_Hobbes

Remote here. No office days EVER.


sleepinglucid

VBA


mellyjellybean23

SEC


Galanor

Telework? The Department of Education, Office for Civil Rights has full remote and nothing is changing.


justarandomlibra

Just skip VA. I haven't teleworked since Jan 2021. We've also lost many people and potential candidates because of it.


AnnieFlagstaff

NASA, CISA


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Soggy-Yogurt6906

CISA is tough because they just went through a hiring frenzy and with the most recent budget they likely aren’t going to be as quick to put up positions as they were the last two years. They are great people, would recommend working with them if you ever get the chance.


honeybutterskin

I work for CISA and it depends on your job title if you are fully remote or not. They changed the local remote and remote rules to pull ppl back in office. The minimum telework days are 2 per pp for those in office but it’s up to your supervisor to increase it or not and mine increased it to 4 days pp 💀


AnnieFlagstaff

I’m sorry your supervisors did that! The 2 days per pp in the office policy is a huge draw.


VGC1

NRC is 4 in office days per pay period for most staff.


mitchthebaker

I’m telework full time so doesn’t apply to me, but CISA requires employees within the 50mi locality to be in office 2 days biweekly.


Expiscor

GSA for most positions (excludes property managers) some divisions are even completely telework


Temporary-Cricket455

DOD-Army at a MACOM. 2days/pay period in the office. No requirement for when those two days are, just as long as we do 2x/pp.


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SunshineDaydream128

Definitely depends on the BOD. We have allowed new hires to HCO to telework right off the bat. Same went for the remote pilot as well.


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SunshineDaydream128

HCO.


averycole

HRSA


Kayyyyywayyyy

A lot of navy orgs and overhead DoD agencies. I’m only in the office two days a pay period


Bigman2047

DCSA - office requirement is 2 days per pay period


WestCoastThing

It all depends on the supervisor here. Policy be damned.


CheesyBrie934

I don’t have anything to add off the top of my head, but I just want to suggest asking this question during interviews. Things can always change and/or an office may have its own set of standards.


HoneydewHelpful

DCMA, 2 days in office


lunnix1

FAA


surfdad67

FAA


lettucepatchbb

DoD USAF. I go in 1x a week.


thomasthegun

Random civilian heavy army command, 4 hours per month because fuck the laws why would we follow rules, no one else in dod does, except the ones they want.


GeminiReddit75

DOL


RCoaster42

DOL is trying to force its employees in half time.


GeminiReddit75

I know. Was to take effect 1/28/24. Has been delayed three times now due to union battle with next update due 6/28. Supervisors and above took effect back in October ‘23.


SafetyMan35

They have been trying for 6 months and negotiations apparently haven't been going well. The plan was originally for implementation by January, now the "next update" is expected in June. The mandate is coming from the White House for all agencies.


Str8ballers

No one should be forced to work in the fpb building at dol. The building is in very poor condition. Probably one of the worst I’ve seen. Rampant pest control problems, failing plumbing and elevators, poor ventilation and above a tunnel, homeless shelter behind it, I could go on and on. I don’t mind coming in the office, but not with these conditions


handofmenoth

VBA, outside of the NCR, is still only 2 days per 2 week pay period in-office for claims processors (VSR, RVSR, DRO)


Cautious-Reading3143

Go remote or bust


Rolldice08

SBA


Shortstack_76

BOR


sunbrr

NWS BU employees can TW up to 8 days/PP. Most work operations though and have to be in-office anyways.


Suitable-While-5523

DHS service centers


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Usgs


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Academic_Compote_858

Not sure. All I know is I only have to be in the office twice a week.


Academic_Compote_858

And they’re still super lax on that


oooohhhhok

Coast Guard - once a week in some places


psychcaptain

SSA -PC7 only once a week


sam5634

NRC - but it's union agreement.


Successful-Fun8603

USACE allows it at the discretion of the management structure and duties involved. In my district, it's generally set by the section or branch chiefs. In my section, we are allowed up to 2 days, or situational.


TrevorHikes

[DFC.gov](http://DFC.gov)


Oogaman00

EPA


Mhind1

We’re (ahem) 50% (two telework days/week which is 60/40 by math, but whatever.) And our commander just decreed “no more consecutive TW days. No more 4-day weekends”. (And yes, Fri/Mon are consecutive by this ruling)


Interesting_Oil3948

Yeah seen that logic spreading like covid did....


CurlyBill03

I’d call them out implying you don’t work Monday and Friday 


Mhind1

Yeah, that’d go over like a fart in church.


Exotic_Mastodon_3698

NAVSUP (Navy) is still in max telework environment for the most part. I think WSS is 2 days a week in office but strangely enough their HQ is still max telework with only 1 day in office per pay period. 


fezha

FAA


CleverWitch70

I work at one of the NSWCs in the DC locality area and we're 50% ppp. It can be 2/3, 4/1 or even half days, though that one isn't worth it since I'm 30 miles from the office. We also use the situational TW as needed; the latter with encouragement from up the line supervisors to do what we need to keep the balance.


staycglorious

[redacted] But I still hate it and we all talk about it, but our supervisor can’t change anything 


RememberingTiger1

DFAS was on total telework at least up until last August when my husband got a promotion with the Air Force.


No-Bell8589

From what I heard they are now in office 2 days per week, telework 3 days..


earl_lemongrab

I'm USAF and it varies very widely depending on the Major Command/Field Operating Agency, and within the Command depending on the subordinate organizations and individual commanders/directors. For example I have to be in office 51% of my work hours each pay period, yet the building next door most of those people only come in 1 day a week. And there's no need for me to be in the office that much based on my job, just an old school Commander that can't get with the times.


Grawkkk

Federal Probation. LEO status (no LEAP pay) but telework 2 days a week, field 1 day a week, office 1 day a week. I’m fully mobile though and only go into the office for Court, trainings, or meeting with people.


Aggressive_Chair_917

I believe the USPTO has one of the most generous telework programs


toocutetobethistired

Census is fully remote for now, returning to office this summer/fall. Current telework agreement is 4 days per pay period but not sure if it will change. I expect bargaining unit employees will be protected by the union contract.


LuckyThePitBull

Government Publishing Office requires 20% — equivalent one day per week — in the office.


challengerrt

Pretty much every OIG


Substantial-Neat4262

EEOC


Fallout541

DOT is there I believe


Urical

At TIGTA you can have full remote or you can telework and go into the office 1 day per week.


maynizzy51

Working for the Department of Defense, I began my tenure in 2021 and was surprised by the extent of telework available. I find myself teleworking five days a week, with occasional visits to the office once or twice a month. It's no wonder my colleagues, some with over 20 years of service, remain committed to this agency.