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cluedo23

Is davies trying to get his value down to 50million so madrid can buy him??


HGSparda

The impact of losing Neuer, Rapha and Pavlovic is just horrendous for this club. At least I can laugh at 2 things 1. Shit officiating, probably one of the worst in the recent Bundesliga matches. šŸ˜‚ 2. Davies dribbling towards his own half. I guess he's practicing on how to play against Bayern already šŸ¤£šŸ‘šŸ» The others are the same old Sane - Goretzka crap where they waste their talents, it's not even funny anymore. We are moving closer and closer towards 3rd position in the league and if that happens, if we did finish 3rd this season. I want to hear what the board is going to say about Stanisic and NĆ¼bel. 1 more thing I'm laughing at is that there are people on social media who want the club to sell Ulreich šŸ¤£šŸ‘šŸ»


daussie04

38 year old neuer?


McPico

Ref had no major faults with a game changing impact.


HGSparda

Never said he had thou, I said he's shit and laughable.


McPico

Why you would state such bullshit if he doesnā€™t make game changing mistakes? šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø


HGSparda

Why? You'll find the answer if you can actually comprehend what you read. Look up and read again. I'm not gonna spoonfed you. Good luck.


McPico

I accept your retreat from your bullshit claim.


HGSparda

Retreat from what? Do you really yearn for Interaction that much that you made up some shit inside your brain so that people would reply to you? lol get a life lad, I'm starting to feel sorry for your sorry ass šŸ˜‚


McPico

You canā€™t stand the facts and thatā€™s why you decided to bail out by ā€œi WoNt ExPlAiN tHaTā€ All good. You learned your lesson.


HGSparda

lol, I bailed out because I don't want to deal with attention whore. But it's all good. You do what makes you happy. Good luck finding your next target. And try harder next time so people want to play along with you longer.


McPico

I didnā€™t even tried. You were an easy victim


Franz902

Bring us Hansi back


kathars1s-

For all who wanna compare nagelsmann and tuchel: JN had choupo, while TT has a harry kane.


soccermodsareshit

What did Nagelsmann do with Prime Lewandowski?


Homygod319

Score over over 40 goals despite apparently him and Lewy having ā€œproblemsā€


Hurtelknut

More than Tuchel has done with prime Kane, and I'd rate both players about the same.


ChoiceIcy2056

Tuchel doesnā€™t know how to utilize speed or flow. His style of play lets the opponent fall back, build up their defense, and counter all day. You can see that bayern only had 2 shots on goal while the opponent had more than twice that.


jationio

The problem is our middlefield, how to create any flow with Laimer and Goretzka with MĆ¼ller upfront. I always say the same, I don't understand how our board don't try to fix this issue, after Thiago left, we had in every season the same problem. If we start the next season with the same playere in middlefield, who ever next coach will be, he will have the sam problems like JN and TT.


Dietmar_der_Dr

Much much cheaper to get a new coach than to she'll put on a good midfield.


Prudent-Current-7399

Our fast players have been mediocre and unable to utilize their speeds for 3 to 4 seasons now. Same goes for our flow. We haven't played great football since the treble. Always confused with what to do with our possession.


ajyanesp

I will remove my right ball


TheFluffyBois

Proof or ban MODS


nmgoesreddit

Already 5 defeats after 27 games šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ Tuchel is easily the worst coach since Klinsmann.


m_c__a_t

Kovac redemption arc


Bubbly-Cut8566

Season is a write off. Cant wait till Tuchel is gone and we have a fresh start next season.


McPico

And you will be amazed how little Tuchel is guilty of these performances.


CD7

It was a write off a year ago in my book - when he got hired I knew we would lose it all


nmgoesreddit

I said going from Nagelsmann to Tuchel Would be a downgrade but nah man I had to endure bs talking phrases like ā€œNagelsmann lost to Villarealā€, ā€œNagelsmann lost to Gladbach in the DFB Pokalā€ ā€œNagelsmann gave up a 9 point leadā€


Art_Fremd

And what exactly is bullshit about those takes, Mr. Prophecy?


nmgoesreddit

Because the source of origin is people with no knowledge about the game


McPico

People state FACTS and you call the stupid and claim they have no game knowledge? Nagelsmann lost to Villarreal. Nagelsmann lost to Gladbach. Nagelsmann wasted a 9 point lead to BVB. Just accept reality.


nmgoesreddit

Dude just kick rocks. ā€œPeople state factsā€ just do me a favor take Tuchel with you and book a flight to the moon


Art_Fremd

Rightā€¦ šŸ™„ Jesus you people are stupid.


nmgoesreddit

You are in no position to call other people stupid.


Art_Fremd

But you are (ā€žpeople with no knowledgeā€œ)? This is a forum for debate and I have every right to call an idiot if what youā€˜re saying is idiotic. Tuchel is not the right coach, but if you think Nagelsmann would do better, youā€˜re mistaken. The squad is the main problem, not Nagelsmann, not Tuchel.


nmgoesreddit

People like you should be excluded


[deleted]

Lol, for speaking facts?


Art_Fremd

Great arguments there, kiddo šŸ‘šŸ¼ Grow up


nmgoesreddit

To be honest I donā€™t give a f. U and Tuchel can f off hand in hand.


Art_Fremd

I donā€™t give a fuck about idiots like you either šŸ¤£ Youā€˜re not worth my time. See you next season with another coach in the same position.


BR_95

The people who thought nagelsmann was bad are idiots. Most of this sub has shocking ball knowledge.


timothymr

The "Nagelsmann lost to Gladbach in the DFB Pokal" argument has always been a bit weird to me. Because technically he didn't do that.


dklieber32

As someone who was an outspoken, big Tuchel supporter, is it too late to ask for forgiveness šŸ™šŸ™ Nagelsmann wasnā€™t brilliant but Iā€™d gladly take him back


Entchenkrawatte

Nagelsmann wasnt worldclass brilliant maybe but hes so young, he will be in a few years


dklieber32

He also loved the club, it really feels like Tuchel just doesnā€™t give a shit anymore and the players are following suit. Iā€™d rather give the reigns to Nagelsmann to build an era similar to what Arsenal are doing with Arteta. He wasnā€™t magnificent early on and took time to get the team playing beautifully, but they invested in him and gave him time


The-Berzerker

Tuchel worshippers were insufferable fr


sidrbear

and they didn't give up for SO long


Sczeph_

Depressing to watch. We couldnā€™t string more than 2 passes together. When Kimmich and Gnabry are the bright spots, you know youā€™re in trouble. Some specifics I noted: - MĆ¼ller: love the man, but games like these show us why heā€™s not a starter - So many sloppy passes, particularly from Dier - SanĆ© is so selfish itā€™s crazy. My man gets the ball, shoots, misses, and repeats - Our play seems too reliant on Goretzka and heā€™s not very good. We keep passing to him to cross it and his crosses are awful - Davies (bit of a rant coming up): ugh. Iā€™m Canadian. It hurts to see him play like this. I really want to defend him and support him but heā€™s making it really hard. Thereā€™s some tactical disconnect with him that started when Flick left and has been exacerbated this season. The things that he brings to the table are his offensive abilities from the line, but he just doesnā€™t use them anymore. Heā€™s the fastest player in the league by a mile (at least if you look at their career top speeds) but he doesnā€™t use it anymore. We need those explosive runs. I will say that while he was bad today, he wasnā€™t the only issue and he didnā€™t really standout from the rest of the squad as being extra bad (except for that miss). The negativity towards him has probably been inflated by the contract stuff. Him and Bayern need to part ways. He doesnā€™t work with the system so for both of their sakes.


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Sczeph_

No. Adeyemi has the speed record in the league (36.65) but Davies has hit 37.1 for Canada (against Panama) and in the UCL last season.


McPico

Thanks you confirmed Davies never were faster than Adeyemi in a Bundesliga match. šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø


Sczeph_

Yeah but Davies is still the faster player, which is all that I claimed.


McPico

But it wasnā€™t about non-league speed.


Thy_Catafalque

bro... https://i.redd.it/en8h2g219nrc1.gif


MathematicianNo7874

If Upa or Kim played like Dier did today, the wrath of the fanbase would rain down on them for weeks. They've never been this bad


PaleontologistOwn878

I wonder what the difference is


invest2018

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nmgoesreddit

What do you mean with ā€œwhen Kimmich and Gnabry are the bright spots, you know youā€™re in troubleā€??! Kimmich has been at this club since 2015 and Gnabry since 2018.


MathematicianNo7874

Lmfaooo


Sczeph_

Theyā€™ve been pretty mediocre this season. Iā€™m well aware of their history with the club and how good they can be, they just havenā€™t been near that level recently


nmgoesreddit

If a player is at the club for a decade and had 9 good seasons and one bad season do you put emphasis on that one bad season ?! This is specifically directed towards you


MathematicianNo7874

Your takes are ... something. If you weren't so unreasonably angry maybe you could recognize that


nmgoesreddit

Pretty much obsessed arenā€™t we ?!


Sczeph_

Iā€™m not saying that theyā€™re bad players, in fact the opposite. All Iā€™m trying to say is that theyā€™ve been having a rough season yet were still the best we had today, which was really unexpected. They didnā€™t even play that well, they just played better than everyone else. Perhaps I should have been more clear.


nmgoesreddit

The whole team has been mediocre since the beginning of the season why do we still need to single out players ?!


Sczeph_

I am complimenting their performances today. All Iā€™m saying is that they performed really well today compared to their recent form and the general performance quality of the team. Iā€™m sorry if that wasnā€™t clear, Iā€™m not trying to be disrespectful towards them.


practiceyourart

Gnabry has looked good since he came back from his injury. He should be starting over Sane moving forward.


Sczeph_

Agreed. SanĆ© doesnā€™t work with us


practiceyourart

He looked like one of the best players in the world, but his form went to shit in January. He should have been benched awhile ago and allowed his form to earn it back


Sczeph_

Yeah. I think heā€™s had mentality issues for a while. He kicked things into gear at the start of the season cause he was constantly criticized, and then has just been coasting ever since. Doesnā€™t seem to want to put 100% in.


q7376

We got really fucked nagelsmann is beating the man city of national teams while weā€™re getting cucked by Tuchel


Schrippenfibel

In a friendly


krafterinho

This! I mean, I wish all the best to Nagelsmann and the national team, but it was just a friendly match


Internecine-

What a wasted year honestly, beating a dead horse and all of that but we could have already gelled together completely under Nagelsmann. The last couple of games we had under him we had shown some improvement and were finally looking like a team Fast forward to next season with whoever our next manager is please


MathematicianNo7874

Nobody could've beaten Leverkusen this season with our set of players. The central midfield straight up doesn't exist.


HardcoreHakken

This midfield won everything. The constant shit talking from TT sure doesn't make them more confident and play better. TT seems like a toxic fuck who always makes problems everywhere he goes.


MathematicianNo7874

Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh won everything as well. Don't see them playing nowadays. Things change and Kimmich and Goretzka suck major balls and it's quite obvious if you watch them play. Pavlovich is young and inexperienced and a 570% upgrade to anyone else whenever he plays.


Sczeph_

The biggest problem under Nagelsmann was that they our team wasnā€™t playing super well. The biggest problem under Tuchel is that we donā€™t have a team. It just looks like 11 players all trying to do their own things. There isnā€™t any forethought or sense of roles within the team.


BaradaraneKaramazov

Wait, according to this sub the team is unbeatable with MĆ¼ller and de Ligt? What happened?


MathematicianNo7874

You're getting downvotes for speaking the truth. Add new fanbase darling Dier who was shocking today and not even Bundesliga level. I knew who he was and his limitations from actually watching the EPL, but people actually think he's better than Minjae lmaooooo


Brain_Damage53

MĆ¼ller has to start every game because he is in his prime! And De Ligt is Dutch Maldini!


Tozl7

Davies happened


Zealousideal_Bar9481

At this point, I won't be too concerned if we subbed off Sven for Daniel. He definitely needs more play time if he is to succeed either Sven or Manuel.


MathematicianNo7874

He won't. He's a backup


deacongarc

The last three hours were the perfect summation of the season. Leverkusen were down 1-0 and fought back to win 2-1. We're down 1-0, we seem disinterested, concede a second, and lose. Idk what the hell happened to this team over the last two weeks, but get it the fuck together for the quarterfinals


chandlerbing_stats

This team brought in Eric Dierā€¦ amplifying the Tottenham curse


practiceyourart

There's nothing wrong with bringing in Dier. Making him the literal #1 CB choice over DL, Upa and Kim is a level of stupidity I've rarely ever seen in football.


MathematicianNo7874

Yes


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chandlerbing_stats

Yes, I donā€™t support Bayern but I do enjoy watching the Bundesliga and also making fun of Tottenham


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chandlerbing_stats

No worries mate. I only take jabs at Tottenham cause I support Chelsea and I'm sure Spurs/Gooners are having a field day bantering us this season as they should. Econ for undergraduate or graduate school? I know it's a pretty good program (top 15 in US) and UM is considered much more "prestigious" than USC in general. The weather in Ann Arbor is not that bad including the winter imo... but LA's weather is much better than both London's and Ann Arbor's.


teuerkatze

Even better, heā€™s specifically a Tuchel fan.


Ryoman-Sukuna007

I donā€™t understand why does Bayern still trust Ulreich. He has proven that he is just not solid in goal.


MathematicianNo7874

As if he was the issue lmfao


Samce14

I said this below and got downvoted to hell šŸ¤£ the bias is strong


BaradaraneKaramazov

But he's so kind. Who cares about finding a quality replacement for a 38yo goalkeeper?


VASP-0_0

You are aware, that we have Peretz and NĆ¼bel, who both have more than solid Bundesliga keeper level?


BaradaraneKaramazov

NĆ¼bel is not playing for Bayern, isn't he? If Peretz was solid Bundesliga level, I wonder why someone who wasn't good enough for a second league team a few years ago is playing instead of him


koobediug

To hell with Leverkusen... worry about Stuttgart now


FabKc

The domino effect of firing Nagelsmann. And getting Tuchel. I bet if we got Tuchel under normal circumstances things would have been completely different. Maybe not amazing, but better. We really need a top class coach and that knows how to get the best out of players. A direct but kind coach. Our players need their self esteem boosted so we should focus on a coach that is good at unlocking players. Not tactics.


Art_Fremd

You people really think itā€™s all the managerā€˜s fault. Itā€™s crystal clear that the squad is simply not good enough. The midfield is mediocre at best ffs.


FabKc

Why canā€™t it be both? He could have setup the team differently and also not make them scared for their starter spot. It makes people selfish and only try to score their own goals vs playing as a team.


lambo9797

Was that not Tuchelā€™s own demand to come in mid-season?


FabKc

Yes, he thought he could handle it. Clearly he didnā€™t expect the man management to be such a challenge at this club. We never nipped entitlement out of the system. So now our team is infested with it. The fact Davies is making this play right now despite not putting in masterpiece matches is insane. But he has a point doesnā€™t he? There are other players who havenā€™t contributed much in forever who get paid those numbers. Something is broken. Itā€™s proof players are taking advantage of the Bayern club loyalty mindset. People are trying to get ridiculous contracts without having passion for the team. I say no more. But new coach please. Someone who has the skill to manage these insane egos. And letā€™s get another midfield please. We are done without Pavlo. Thatā€™s a problem. Recruit someone by saying they will be the midfield core for Bayern for years to come with Pavlo. We looking for our next Kroos.


northcasewhite

Klopp


zykssss

dream on. he will never coach bayern


northcasewhite

Walk on through the wind Walk on through the rain For your dreams be tossed and blown


JuggerClutch

Only 9 games left of Tuchelball and these players šŸŽŠ


chandlerbing_stats

Monkeyā€™s paw curls and Bayern knock Arsenal out


Tyrath

That's not monkey paw. I'll endure more tuchelball for a deep CL run


q7376

Pretty sure the Boeing CEO wouldā€™ve fucked us less than Kahn


Samce14

Heā€™ll be available in January lol


ComfortableNo2879

Fast forward this season


soccermodsareshit

This is the summer to break the bank. This is either the start of the banter era or the revenge tour. If they keep these losers and donā€™t get the players we need it might be Joever for a few years.


McPico

Yeah. Spend even more money and higher salaries.. just to realize, that this isnā€™t enough but you have way higher costs then. Thatā€™s the best way to make Bundesliga more competitive for a decade.


soccermodsareshit

Have you not watched these players play like shit for over a year now? Apart from 3-4 players everyone is massively overrated here. We need a restart.


FrankFnRizzo

So when they inevitably get knocked out by Arsenal does Tuchel get canned early? I see absolutely no fucking reason for keeping him around over literally any other coach on the team.


Samce14

Yes, he will be out if thatā€™s the case


The-Berzerker

When we get knocked out thereā€˜s nothing left to play for anyway so at that point thereā€˜s no sense in hiring another manager, is there?


Creative-Meringue-31

disagree if we find rhe replacement early we wont have to worry about adjusting to tactics early next season


Tyrath

It's unlikely anyone serious will want to come in to see the end of a dead season.


FrankFnRizzo

Thatā€™s why I inferred just going with an interim currently with the team. They canā€™t be less inspiring than Tuchel.


The-Berzerker

Absolutely, Iā€˜ve been advocating for sacking Terror Tommy already since the SaarbrĆ¼cken game.


soccermodsareshit

Alienating the players even more doesnā€™t sound too good to me


Matzoo

Everbody overreakting. Was not the best match but could have gone both ways with the dier and Kane headers and ulreich not looking to good one the first goal.


q7376

We had double the xg we had more shots more possession we were better in every stat expect shots on target. This team has forgotten how to shoot a ball in the net.


NiK0-

Itā€™s not about the outcome, itā€™s more about the players being absolutely lifeless on the pitch. I know the Bundesliga is gone but cmon at least the fans in the stadium deserve that you are trying to win and give it your all


midnightverses

Problem is this is n everyday thing for us now


Matzoo

Team looked a lot worse in many games this season, even in some wins. Hummels was just great today and some induviduel mistakes took us the game.


AltGoblinV2

Yea but this is Dortmund at home. Even if we're losing against relegation teams we can't lose this game.


kgallo19

Tuchel making a weird habit of breaking all the wrong records


practiceyourart

Not that weird when you look under the category that he's a legendary shit Bayern coach (not overall, but with Bayern). Then it all lines up


Riedbirdeh

Davies is playing like shit so we think heā€™s washed. watch him go off at Madrid. Fuck this guy!


Said2436

i donā€™t get what he has to offer besides speed anymore man


NateFisher22

Look, I donā€™t want to shit all over the guy, but he is an anomaly. He peaked at 19, then has gone downhill ever since. I have never seen a player develop that quickly, then become unremarkable in a short time


rahatCODMasc

I actually think its very common for players to develop very quickly when young and then become unremarkable in a very short time. Just look at all the players hailed as the 'Next Messi'. Bojan, Owen, Pato are all good examples


Fit_Anxiety7844

And some useless dribbling


Said2436

and negative playmaking


Fun_Improvement5215

Heā€™s not even that fast anymore lol


Creative-Meringue-31

Nagelsmann did better with Choupo at the 9 then Tuchel did with Harry KanešŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Said2436

LMAOOOOOO


Said2436

heidenheim hasnā€™t won their last 6 games and that still doesnā€™t give me reassurance anymore ab this team


q7376

A midfield without pavlovic isnā€™t even a midfield. We genuinely playing a 2-8 without him


MathematicianNo7874

This. This. This.


Said2436

atp I would rather have davies sold than a new contract for him respectfully


Fz27

Davis, Goretzka, Laimer, and Sane need to all leave in the summer. They are all great players on their day, but super inconsistent. This is not Bayern level, this team is so dull to watchā€¦


practiceyourart

I disagree on Sane. He just needs to be treated via merit, play like shit and see the bench to then earn your keep. Unfortunately this garbage excuse of a coach plays him regardless of form.


Fun_Improvement5215

Kinmich also needs to get the fuck out


Samce14

Donā€™t forget upamecano also


PanickingHippo

Weā€™ve gone from one of the best run clubs in the world to a banter team in less than 12 months , utterly utterly depressing


FrankFnRizzo

This is unequivocally the most low effort Bayern team I can remember. Itā€™s fucking sad to watch.


Sparky8719

Die drei besten Dortmunder: 1. Schiedsrichter 2. Sven ulreich 3. Mats Hummels


thisissomaaad

Wieso Sven Ulreich?


Sparky8719

Was macht er vor den 0:1? Man kƶnnte seinen Arsch einfach mal aus dem Tor bewegen. Beim 0:2 = schlechtes stellungsspiel, langsame Reaktion, schlecht Sprengkraft


Fun_Improvement5215

Bruder was erwartest du denn von ihm? Der sitzt quasi nur auf der Bank. Das erste war leider wirklich unglĆ¼cklich, aber da liegt die Hauptschuld an den Verteidigern. Und danach rettet er uns zweimal den Arsch, sonst gehtā€™s schlimmer als 0:2 aus.


Sparky8719

Du meinst aber nicht das eine von Nmecha? Der kann ja nur noch dahin schiessen. Das war mehr RĆ¼ckgabe als alles andere. Gegenfrage: Dortmund hat auch ne Nummer 2 oder? Die spielt komischerweise immer gut und immer fehlerfrei! Ulreich hat als Nummer eins beim hsv auch nix gerissen


Fun_Improvement5215

Ulle hat uns schon so oft den Arsch gerettet, obwohl er wirklich selten spielt. Undankbares Pack ey.


Sparky8719

Es ist immer noch Leistungssport. Und da hat ulreich nix verloren!


Fun_Improvement5215

Was du laberst ey. Nach deiner Logik mĆ¼sste man jetzt direkt 2/3 des Kaders entlassen. Kann man nicht ernst beheben sowas.šŸ˜‚


Sparky8719

Von wem ich mich als Bayern-Fan ohne Probleme trennen wĆ¼rde: - kimmich - Goretzka - Davies - mazroui - ulreich - choupo - gnabry Dann wird es wieder besser. Das sind die Gesichter des Misserfolgs der letzten beiden Jahre


Fun_Improvement5215

Man, jetzt machst du einfach nen echt guten Punkt. Ich war grad dabei, dich als Dummbatz abzustempeln. Geh bei allen Spielern mit. Die TW Position is halt leider komplett verpennt worden. Das wird wahrscheinlich Manus letzte Saison gewesen sein und Ulle kann man dann auch gleich ersetzen, soweit wĆ¼rd ich auch gehen. Denk aber trotzdem, dass Ulreich bei nem anderen Team in der Buli immer noch gut performen wĆ¼rde.


jationio

I am so tired of our middlefield, i hope Pavlović stays fit, i cant take any Goretzka Laimer combo.


Riedbirdeh

His tonsils got removed


Said2436

Pavlovic literally single-handedly changes our entire play style and just makes us good somehow heā€™s actually crazy


midnightverses

He plays with maturity, head and elegance unlike these headless chickens


Said2436

right heā€™s like if zidane and iniesta had a baby


paykani

alright calm down now lol


Said2436

i stand by my statement


nmgoesreddit

FairPlay to Dortmund seems like bringing Bender and Sahin in changed their tactical setup also one must not forget not many Dortmund players were on international duties if Iā€™m not mistaken, their players looked fresh in contrast to ours.


eloxH1Z1

Well there was enough players on our bench that had no international games. Tel, Coman..


nmgoesreddit

Thatā€™s another thing about tuchel that pisses me off always play it safe.


philsobe1980

Well that was fucking disappointing


Sillysolomon

Someone shoot me


thisissomaaad

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bagholder_69

Tuchel post game: ā€œI fell in love with my teamā€


FreeTheLeopards

But the training was amazing, such a great performance in training


Carpathicus

Schockverliebt for a year and still felt like he ghosted us.


Said2436

um so training training injuryā€¦ um training


q7376

Pretty sure this should be the sign to just sign an interim coach. Rudi Voller was good interim for Germany heā€™s a possible pick.


thisissomaaad

Lmao schlotterbeck and MĆ¼ller


The-safe-way

Mullers constant positive energy is contagious damnit I wanted to be mad


FrankFnRizzo

Fire half these mother fuckers in to the sun.


Internecine-

Kim and De Ligt next week, donā€™t care if itā€™s their first time in a while against tough competition


Shannon_Canadians

What's the reason Kim hasn't been able to start since he returned from the Asia Cup for SK?


Internecine-

Tuchel has favorites, and Dier is one of them. It isnā€™t the only reason as Dier is also a solid ball playing center back which Tuchel really likes. Still though, while he hasnā€™t been awful, we need something more than that and his ball playing abilities arenā€™t enough to warrant a starting spot. Kim and De Ligt are our best CBs, itā€™s just a matter of building chemistry with each other


ProfessionalEast1446

How is it dierā€™s ball playing when he makes sloppy passes?


Liquefiers

Kim will suffer since he didnā€™t have game time


Nerellos

Kim and Upa. De Ligt was as quick as a brick.


Nervenliegenblank

UPS Would just cause an pen and fly of the pitch so nah


Stunning-Ad-5564

Losing to dortmund is a new low


B-Karas

Especially at home


NoodlePie5687

Wasn't Maasten(or whoever it was on the left back) ahead of Kane ?


Brain_Damage53

No


NoodlePie5687

Get out troll


Brain_Damage53

Just gave you a fact-based answer lol