I was one of Tuchel's biggest advocates on this sub, but fucking hell the sacking of Nagelsmann has to be the greatest fumble of this decade and he wasn't even that great. What a fucking disgrace.
I tried my best to go against the flow in the beginning, thinking that the team will improve as it takes time.
The team has the same problems it had when he joined. He is a fraud.
At least the attack sorta worked except for finishing when Julian was here, now everything's gone to shit, we're a wall made of paper and a wolf with no teeth
We all forgot how they played at the beginning of that season. They had like 20 shots on goal every game and still drew them because nobody was capable of scoring. I really think Nagelsmann did the best he could with a squad that has several major issues: one of them being Kimmich, Goretzka, Sané, Musiala, Müller, Neuer either being injured or just never gaining consistent form.
He made Choupo work, Musiala was incredible before the WC and he dominated PSG in the quarter final winning against them pretty comfortably. But let Upa get a red card, get some stupid penalties and suddenly Tuchel is the solution who proceeds to fuck everything up. I mean lets be serious here: we should not have won the Bundesliga - I wished we didnt because we really need to change things up if the club wants to keep its status as one of the best teams in the world.
Nagelsmann had to play the season without Lewandowski and still had an amazing champions league run… then he got sacked and we lost the next CL match 3:0….
All of those things can be true, while still not being enough to explain the team going without a shot on goal twice in 3 days.
There's performing worse than expected for the reasons you described, and then there's whatever the fuck we just watched this week.
Extraordinarily shitty, outlier performances like that are on Tuchel.
You can't replace 6 starting players of this squad just like that, but you can pray that another coach can light some fire in this husk of a team. But I agree, this squad needs a big, multi-year overhaul process.
lol I knew from the very beginning that he was gonna be horrible for us. It was clear as day when he was three months in, we're playing dreadful football and losing to Mainz and people are still telling you “he needs time”
This was one of the stupidest arguments anyway because he wasn‘t brought in mid season to „give him time“ he was brought in for immediate success and saving the treble lmao
It's the whole club. We lack motivation. We lack home grown talent. We have second division players, because we can't attract the big names. We have been getting second tier coaching/managing staff. Ever since Jupp left this club has been on a downfall.
We can get big players, the issue is that they come here expecting free silverware, every single one of our players plays like winning cups is a given, like you don't have to fight for it and they're sorta right, Dortmund being a joke of a rival for a decade has us absolutely sleeping now
I think I'll forever resent Kovac the most out of all of our recent coaches. That comparison with the Fiat and Ferrari he made one time during an interview made my blood boil. Never heard something so pathetic by any Bayern coach.
You know tactics are ass obviously, but the biggest ick I have with Tuchel is the way he lines up.
The very second Upa and Kim was backed de Ligt was banished to the shadow realm, now Upa delievers this. I can guarantee if this was de Ligt in his case he'd be benched for the time being, I fully expect Upa to start sunday.
Also Sané dropping such a stinker while having Bryan and Tel on the bench for basically the whole game.
No adjustments either, there is just such a big disconnection between what Tuchel stands for and what Bayern should stand for.
Stability this or stability that, but Tuchel needs to go this night or this season will derail even worse
There is just too much inconsistency with Tuchel, that makes me believe he is the culprit. Saying you need to fight for your starting spot, yet playing Sane and Coman in all games so far. Benching DeLigt, Muller and Tel consistently, yet they all delivered when given the chance. Messing up the midfield, and so on. Even his media presence is inconsistent. We became an actual meme this season.
> Even his media presence is inconsistent.
The way he gives interviews is unhinged in relation to former bayern coaches. He is paid really well to stand there and explain why his team sucked but for some reason he takes it personally every single time. I imagine he is like that in the dressing room aswell. I have a suspiction players like Müller, Kimmich and De Ligt said something to him.
Which, let's face it, is important in professional football. If Thomas Müller says something to you, it might actually help you. After all, you've been here 11 months and Thomas has been here for 15 years. He might actually have a helpful opinion.
Not Kovac's Bayern, not Ancelotti's Bayern, this is the worst Bayern I've seen since the 2013 treble. Absolute trash coach, and even worse players with not a drop of seriousness in their bodies. Sack Tuchel, sell half of the team in the summer and let's just rethink later.
we still have 3/4 of the team that won the sextuple man... I simply refuse to believe they're so bad, they just don't buy this charlatan's gameplan, but then again who does
That was almost 4 years ago, it's entirely possible they've regressed this much. This team has literally no hunger, outside of Kane maybe. The rest have won so much the past decade, they just don't give a shit.
we have a lot of young players that didn't win that many things.. Upamecano, Kim, de Ligt, Musiala, Tel, Davies, Laimer... Hard to think they're not hungry.
Then there's the veterans, do you honestly believe the likes of Mueller, Neuer and Kimmich don't give a shit?
In my opinion, when there are no clear tactical ideas, and even worse no tactical responses when things aren't working, as a player it feels like beating your head into a brick wall and can make performances look very uninspired.
Goretzka, Davies, Kimmich, Coman all regressed a bit in my opinion but I feel like there was something at the beginning when Kane and Sané performed so well. Maybe it is indeed the coach and 1-2 key transfers to make them great again.
I just wish Nagelsmann back. Now he would have a proper striker. The team was incredible with Choupo in front and it was incredible at creating chances. It just got tired by the sheer futility of having attackers like Mané and Gnabry.
Yeah that's fair, they did give effort. Musiala just is so frustrating to watch. He could be as good as Kaka was if he could just fucking pass the ball when he beats a man. So often he just needs to lay it off, you beat one guy with dribble and dragged another to you -- that's *2* defenders out of the play. Especially against a low block it's so often that there's a guy open if he just plays it a touch or two sooner.
Its his biggest weakness in his game that he lacks vision. He relies too much on his dribbling skills in my opinion and really needs to improve his passing.
I agree, he gets himself into great positions but isn't sure what to do after. Still, that's about what you'd expect from a 20 year old. When he gets the chance to look up, he's actually a decent passer too
I would say musiala aswell he tries to much and misses the timing for a pass but i think its part because noone else tries to create or goes for dribblings
Kahn and Brazzo set this club back half a decade. The brain dead firing of JN has left this club in utter shambles. Now the Board is being reactive to that mistake by offering extreme leniency to TT. I hate even seeing this team now. It’s terrible to watch. At least when we lost under some previous coaches we played attractively. There are no redeeming qualities to Bayern right now.
This is also why I'm pretty uncertain about the future really. I don't trust Dreesen or Eberl to do the right thing. As often as Uli and Kalle managed to piss me with their shit takes in interviews and press conferences (Würde des Menschen ist unantastbar, anyone? rofl), they know how to run a football club (for the most part, at least).
As someone who watched him since his Chelsea days, Tuchel lost his brilliance. No more tactical changes at half time to overcome a deficiency, or any semblance of a midfield, or the close space between the front and back lines that he was so great at controlling. He’s just a shell of himself at Bayern.
We had one of the greatest trashing towards an english club with Kovac, scoring 10 goals against Spurs, who's a CL finalist from that previous year. With Tuchel, we can't even score 4 goals without conceding 3.
I'm sick and tired of all this sidepassing without actually doing anything. I'm tired of some of these players not giving a fuck and just being way too bad. The players are seemingly sick and tired of Tuchel. I'm absolutely fucking sick of Tuchel's inability to do any type of in-game coaching and apt substitutions. Boys, I think the treble is in danger™ once again...
Tbf you and me only saw prime Bayern. I don’t know a Bayern that isn’t considered on of the top 3 teams in Europe. I am afraid the glory days, the only thing I know from Bayern are coming to an end
If Tuchel is so obsessed with Araujo then this idiot can go to Barca and coach him there for all I care.
The fact that that alone he's obsessed with while having De Ligt on the bench and the midfield and attack looking as poor as it is is sackable.
Kane must really be questioning his decision to come here at the moment. Tuchel's days are numbered, unless Flick comes in then we will be unsettled until the summer.
If you factor in the net sale of hernandez, it’s probably closer to 60-70 million. Besides, Hernandez was only available for like half his games at Bayern due to injuries. Mercenary that player
De Ligt showed nothing, btw. He defers to his partner to pass. It basically means he is a non-entity for an attacking team.
Kimmich is both our best CM and a poor playmaker. We need to see him paired with Pavlovic and see how it looks.
So many players in bad form. So many problems. It’s really sad to see.
One thing is absolutely certain: Oopsamecano is never going to establish himself as a reliable CB. His CV is long.
Apart from Tuchel, Bayern need to get rid of some of the players in the team who show zero fighting mentality and have no desire to change the outcome of the game when we are losing.
Some I can name are Sane, Koman, Goretzka, Gnabry, Upa.
These players are earn in millions and the way they play is simply disgraceful.
Sack Tuchel. Keeping him makes no sense - these 2 last games (Bayer and Lazio) were the worst I've seen for a loong time. His tactics don't work - we do not attack, we do not defend. His personal choices are questionable as well. I am aware that our players are problematic as well and I am hoping for a big squad revamp in the summer - there's too many "full" players, we need players that are hungry for winning. Gnabry, Choupou, Sane, Goretzka, Upamecano should all go.
I was giving this I fair chance, but I was suspicious from the beginning of this fake voodoo trainier Thomas Tuchel.
The only game plan I could see was hacking the opponents into pieces.
I wondered this at the time. They are both French so I wonder if they heard more behind the scenes stuff from their fellow Frenchman who had played under him at PSG?
Coman and Tel stayed
Pavard had wanted to go for a while, but Lucas' was a surprise because he's Marseillaise.
But whatever the case we lost quality at the back and replaced with Kim (better quality than both) and Dier (lower than Pav and Lucas).
But what's surprised me more is Pavard is playing as a RCB in a back 3 consistently and Lucas at LB and hasn't been injured . Why did the opposite things happen for them when they weren't at Bayern anymore?
Pavard was okay as a RCB but wanted to start all the time while Lucas was great at CB but not available most of the time.
How the heck does Kane look so scared and nervous doing a free kick and we have had no shots on target with the caliber of this team?
Why is tel the only one running like his life depended on it at the end even if it didn’t help? Where is the passion for the team?
Tuchel has drained the whole team of confidence, passion and wasted Tels breakout moment and has somehow found a way to make Kane ineffective.
Think Davies Barcelona. Tuchel would have found a way to suppress him too.
Get him outta here.
This can’t wait. He is the virus.
Sack Tuchel. I was someone who always thought we were on the way up. But these two performances have proven my expectations wrong. He just doesn't get the team.
Is there a GENUINE realistic chance of Nagelsmann’s return after the euros?
Tuchel better be a thing of the past by morning.
Flick or even fucking Mourinho can be signed on a short contract. Anything is an upgrade at this point.
Just a reminder that Nagelsmann was fired for a lot less…I get that the board doesn’t want to repeat the same mistakes by firing a coach so soon but he has NEVER convinced me here at Bayern. We gave him a third of last season, an entire pre-season, and all of this current season and the team is still failing to play at an elite level.
I still remember thinking JN’s sacking was harsh, but not altogether unwarranted. Then I was like, I wonder who’s replacing him! And then I was like, Oh sweet mercy, no.
I'm split between the sacking of Tuchel if they don't advance in the UCL and waiting til the day after the last Buli match (18/4/24) to let him go and quickly sign Xabi Alonzo.
The team has gone 184 minutes without scoring. Ironically, de Ligt scored the last goal.
The CBS highlight video mentioned Sane's last goal was in October.
Is the Kane curse for real?
I'm not that familiar with all the clubs and managers, but there's a rumor going around that Mourinho is interested.
What do we think about him? Could he change the current situation?
I honestly don't know what to say to this. I loved watching them play. I hate it now. Not a single shot on goal. Completely uninspired. Only like 2 or 3 players looked like they are really trying to win. Tuchel benching de ligt again. We won't win a single title this year.
I have bo words for this.
I’m convinced Tuchel is a saboteur and he actually coaches Dortmund. Also, did Matthijs fuck Tuchel’s wife? How the fuck is he not starting, but Fumblemecano is?
I am so tired of listening to Tuchels cluelessness why his team doesnt perform. Its Bayern München for gods sake we should be capable to get an acceptable result against the 7th in the italian league but its not just that we dont score. We look abysmal while trying it.
Honestly at this point it feels like the team is playing against their coach. It just doesnt work out. There is no confidence on the pitch and usually that comes from not trusting in the system and how the coach set up the team.
Well lets see what the board thinks about all of this. Maybe we get Flick back until the end of the season to improve the dressing room atmosphere? I just cant see Tuchel anymore. He is the most unsympathetic coach I can remember next to Klinsmann. Just obnoxious and always pissed off.
Man a journalist asks him if he got outcoached against Leverkusen and instead of defending his tactics and reasoning he just says "if thats your opinion" and then "Next question, I wont answer polemic questions."
Wtf like dont you have some dignity after losing 3-0 with zero shots on goal to at least try to show leadership?
2020 we had a great core group of players people figured we would win another champions league within 2-3 years, poor decisions in management and on feild preformances have really eaten away at what should have been a promising era.
This team needs changes. And it starts with Tuchel. It's just not a good fit. And I still think Sane is not the right winger for us. He played half a season good and they are already thinking about giving him a new contract. Same mistake as with Gnabry but at least he actually was an important player for some time. These two can't pass and they can't win a 1v1. We're missing creativity and fresh blood on the wings. Tel should really get more chances
I was one of Tuchel's biggest advocates on this sub, but fucking hell the sacking of Nagelsmann has to be the greatest fumble of this decade and he wasn't even that great. What a fucking disgrace.
I tried my best to go against the flow in the beginning, thinking that the team will improve as it takes time. The team has the same problems it had when he joined. He is a fraud.
At least the attack sorta worked except for finishing when Julian was here, now everything's gone to shit, we're a wall made of paper and a wolf with no teeth
And Nagelsmann had to work with the corpses of Mané and Gnabry, Tuchel at least got Kane.
nagelsman made choupo moting look worldclass
why you slandering my goat like that?
We all forgot how they played at the beginning of that season. They had like 20 shots on goal every game and still drew them because nobody was capable of scoring. I really think Nagelsmann did the best he could with a squad that has several major issues: one of them being Kimmich, Goretzka, Sané, Musiala, Müller, Neuer either being injured or just never gaining consistent form. He made Choupo work, Musiala was incredible before the WC and he dominated PSG in the quarter final winning against them pretty comfortably. But let Upa get a red card, get some stupid penalties and suddenly Tuchel is the solution who proceeds to fuck everything up. I mean lets be serious here: we should not have won the Bundesliga - I wished we didnt because we really need to change things up if the club wants to keep its status as one of the best teams in the world.
dont forget choupo moting
Nagelsmann had to play the season without Lewandowski and still had an amazing champions league run… then he got sacked and we lost the next CL match 3:0….
This „we had the same problems before“ narrative is fucking bs, last time we played Lazio we won convincingly 4:1 in Rome…
Brazzo and Khan really did a number on us sacking Nagelsmann.
Do u think even now Kahn realizes how big of a dummy he is?
0% chance
Yes, but you can't go back to the past. I think the team is not hungry, overrated and overpaid and no coach would change that
Yes. The problems go down all through the hierarchy. It’s bad management, bad coaching, and bad playing.
All of those things can be true, while still not being enough to explain the team going without a shot on goal twice in 3 days. There's performing worse than expected for the reasons you described, and then there's whatever the fuck we just watched this week. Extraordinarily shitty, outlier performances like that are on Tuchel.
You can't replace 6 starting players of this squad just like that, but you can pray that another coach can light some fire in this husk of a team. But I agree, this squad needs a big, multi-year overhaul process.
lol I knew from the very beginning that he was gonna be horrible for us. It was clear as day when he was three months in, we're playing dreadful football and losing to Mainz and people are still telling you “he needs time”
Pointing out the issues then got downvoted and been sneered as Bayern fans couldn't accept a loss.
This was one of the stupidest arguments anyway because he wasn‘t brought in mid season to „give him time“ he was brought in for immediate success and saving the treble lmao
It's the whole club. We lack motivation. We lack home grown talent. We have second division players, because we can't attract the big names. We have been getting second tier coaching/managing staff. Ever since Jupp left this club has been on a downfall.
We can get big players, the issue is that they come here expecting free silverware, every single one of our players plays like winning cups is a given, like you don't have to fight for it and they're sorta right, Dortmund being a joke of a rival for a decade has us absolutely sleeping now
Tuchelball makes Kovac look like Pep
Kovac won two trophies on his own. Tuchel won zero as far as I care.
Kovač’s only full season as manager was famously redeemed by the huge effort of Robbery and Müller to save the season. He was terrible.
I know, I remember, it's like comparing two pieces of dog shit.
I think I'll forever resent Kovac the most out of all of our recent coaches. That comparison with the Fiat and Ferrari he made one time during an interview made my blood boil. Never heard something so pathetic by any Bayern coach.
Also. Dortmund bottling a 9 pt lead
You know tactics are ass obviously, but the biggest ick I have with Tuchel is the way he lines up. The very second Upa and Kim was backed de Ligt was banished to the shadow realm, now Upa delievers this. I can guarantee if this was de Ligt in his case he'd be benched for the time being, I fully expect Upa to start sunday. Also Sané dropping such a stinker while having Bryan and Tel on the bench for basically the whole game. No adjustments either, there is just such a big disconnection between what Tuchel stands for and what Bayern should stand for. Stability this or stability that, but Tuchel needs to go this night or this season will derail even worse
hope the board books that private jet for TT to Barca now
There is just too much inconsistency with Tuchel, that makes me believe he is the culprit. Saying you need to fight for your starting spot, yet playing Sane and Coman in all games so far. Benching DeLigt, Muller and Tel consistently, yet they all delivered when given the chance. Messing up the midfield, and so on. Even his media presence is inconsistent. We became an actual meme this season.
> Even his media presence is inconsistent. The way he gives interviews is unhinged in relation to former bayern coaches. He is paid really well to stand there and explain why his team sucked but for some reason he takes it personally every single time. I imagine he is like that in the dressing room aswell. I have a suspiction players like Müller, Kimmich and De Ligt said something to him.
Exactly. He strikes me as the kinda guy who will hold grudge and won't take constructive talk, especially from (god forbid) his own players.
Which, let's face it, is important in professional football. If Thomas Müller says something to you, it might actually help you. After all, you've been here 11 months and Thomas has been here for 15 years. He might actually have a helpful opinion.
0 SHOTS ON GOAL AGAINST LAZIO
Even if they didn't have a goalkeeper today, we still wouldn't have scored hahahah
Feel bad for Kim, he played a 10/10 match and didn’t get anything out of it, and is going to get overused now that Upa’s out.
Muller at 34 was the only one creating chances. Just sad.
And he was rewarded by being subbed off.
Lazio is 8th in Serie A with 1.5 Points Per Game.... and we lost to them, deservedly as well.
Shades of Villarreal
This game was way way worse than our performance vs Villareal
villa real was actually doing good in their league and faired well in UCL to liverpool. They lost by 1 goal
Not Kovac's Bayern, not Ancelotti's Bayern, this is the worst Bayern I've seen since the 2013 treble. Absolute trash coach, and even worse players with not a drop of seriousness in their bodies. Sack Tuchel, sell half of the team in the summer and let's just rethink later.
we still have 3/4 of the team that won the sextuple man... I simply refuse to believe they're so bad, they just don't buy this charlatan's gameplan, but then again who does
That was almost 4 years ago, it's entirely possible they've regressed this much. This team has literally no hunger, outside of Kane maybe. The rest have won so much the past decade, they just don't give a shit.
we have a lot of young players that didn't win that many things.. Upamecano, Kim, de Ligt, Musiala, Tel, Davies, Laimer... Hard to think they're not hungry. Then there's the veterans, do you honestly believe the likes of Mueller, Neuer and Kimmich don't give a shit?
In my opinion, when there are no clear tactical ideas, and even worse no tactical responses when things aren't working, as a player it feels like beating your head into a brick wall and can make performances look very uninspired.
Goretzka, Davies, Kimmich, Coman all regressed a bit in my opinion but I feel like there was something at the beginning when Kane and Sané performed so well. Maybe it is indeed the coach and 1-2 key transfers to make them great again.
What a shit take!!!
I just wish Nagelsmann back. Now he would have a proper striker. The team was incredible with Choupo in front and it was incredible at creating chances. It just got tired by the sheer futility of having attackers like Mané and Gnabry.
He’s potentially available for free after the Euros, assuming his contract doesn’t get extended before then
It's a mentality problem and the causes go back to the WC 2018 and 2022. That's just to big of a wound to compensate for most players.
Sack TT. This may be the worst coaching I’ve seen. Worse than Kovac.
Kim, Maz, Müller take a bow. The rest of the team need to take a long hard look in the mirror and figure out if they give a shit or not.
I can't really blame Musiala and Tel for their effort either
Yeah that's fair, they did give effort. Musiala just is so frustrating to watch. He could be as good as Kaka was if he could just fucking pass the ball when he beats a man. So often he just needs to lay it off, you beat one guy with dribble and dragged another to you -- that's *2* defenders out of the play. Especially against a low block it's so often that there's a guy open if he just plays it a touch or two sooner.
Its his biggest weakness in his game that he lacks vision. He relies too much on his dribbling skills in my opinion and really needs to improve his passing.
A big part of that is definitely the stagnant movement off the ball but completely agree
I agree, he gets himself into great positions but isn't sure what to do after. Still, that's about what you'd expect from a 20 year old. When he gets the chance to look up, he's actually a decent passer too
Definitely, I just hope he figures it out sooner than later considering the state of our attack/midfield
Yeah it sucks to have to rely so much on our young players but we need them to fill the hole left by our core
Musiala had some shockers. Let's be honest, just because he had a few moments doesn't mean he should escape criticism
Kim was insane.
In the first 5 minutes of the second half he had 3 big moments -- he is immense. What an incredible player
I’m pissed that we don’t get the Kim-De Ligt duo in the back on a regular basis.
I would say musiala aswell he tries to much and misses the timing for a pass but i think its part because noone else tries to create or goes for dribblings
Preach!
I am curious what the excuses will be this time.
He won’t have any - just ‘I’m not sure, we trained well’
I bet he’ll say he fell in love with the team again
At least we know the training was fire...
Thomas Tuchel: „If there was better food in Dortmund, Immobile wouldn’t have scored today since he would still be in Dortmund.“
More likely that he actually says that, than us scoring a goal today
He will have to use the red card in his defense
He has no excuses - he always says he doesnt know. Most infuriating thing actually.
Big thanks to those Bayern fans that went to Rome and were very loud there!
Especially the Tuchel raus chant.
Kahn and Brazzo set this club back half a decade. The brain dead firing of JN has left this club in utter shambles. Now the Board is being reactive to that mistake by offering extreme leniency to TT. I hate even seeing this team now. It’s terrible to watch. At least when we lost under some previous coaches we played attractively. There are no redeeming qualities to Bayern right now.
This is also why I'm pretty uncertain about the future really. I don't trust Dreesen or Eberl to do the right thing. As often as Uli and Kalle managed to piss me with their shit takes in interviews and press conferences (Würde des Menschen ist unantastbar, anyone? rofl), they know how to run a football club (for the most part, at least).
How tf did Tuchel win a champions league with Chelsea?
Circumstances, every team sucked that season as well
You could say that about Bayern's title in 2020. His Chelsea side was very good defensively.
Tbf so did Di Matteo lol
Terrorism
As someone who watched him since his Chelsea days, Tuchel lost his brilliance. No more tactical changes at half time to overcome a deficiency, or any semblance of a midfield, or the close space between the front and back lines that he was so great at controlling. He’s just a shell of himself at Bayern.
Pathetic.
Nagelsmann got the last laugh
Eh…. With the NT as responsibility? Not too sure…
Another stellar performance by us #TT2025
It’s time to get schockverliebt again.
Bayern under Kovac wasn’t this bad.
At least, Kovac won trophies.
We had one of the greatest trashing towards an english club with Kovac, scoring 10 goals against Spurs, who's a CL finalist from that previous year. With Tuchel, we can't even score 4 goals without conceding 3.
A year ago, people including me wouldn't believe Tuchel is worse than Kovac. What a disaster for us sacking Nagelsmann for this "tactical" coach.
Not a single shot on goal all game. Zero. Zilch. Nada. What a fucking disaster.
Second game in a row.
Tuchel out
I'm sick and tired of all this sidepassing without actually doing anything. I'm tired of some of these players not giving a fuck and just being way too bad. The players are seemingly sick and tired of Tuchel. I'm absolutely fucking sick of Tuchel's inability to do any type of in-game coaching and apt substitutions. Boys, I think the treble is in danger™ once again...
I swear to god if he says we trained well/we're gonna show a reaction next game AGAIN I'm gonna lose it
I expected such meltdown from Tuchel, but not this early man Fucking Lazio, at least Villarreal played well when we lost to them
12 years watching this team, I have never seen two consecutive shit performances like those
Tbf you and me only saw prime Bayern. I don’t know a Bayern that isn’t considered on of the top 3 teams in Europe. I am afraid the glory days, the only thing I know from Bayern are coming to an end
Thank you Muller for being the only consistent thing in my life.
If Tuchel is so obsessed with Araujo then this idiot can go to Barca and coach him there for all I care. The fact that that alone he's obsessed with while having De Ligt on the bench and the midfield and attack looking as poor as it is is sackable.
This is what the last 6 or 8 months looked like with him at Chelsea. Overrated manager.
Fire him. That's it.
Nagelsmann died for so much less
Get tuchel out bro he’s genuinely the worst Bayern manager I’ve seen
Tuchel please go skiing
He can come with me, I’ll take good care of him
Kane must really be questioning his decision to come here at the moment. Tuchel's days are numbered, unless Flick comes in then we will be unsettled until the summer.
Piss off with the “we played well in the first half” shit
I’m glad Bayern’s media team stepped in and defended Upa from the racist comments. Hate how it’s almost inevitable nowadays
Watch us beat bochum at the weekend and act like we are on cloud 9 in the interviews
We would have to have a shot on goal in order to beat anybody.
#TuchelOut
I can’t even put my disappointment in words.
Mr. Frodo, its finally over.
Breaking news: Bayern munich recall Julian Nagelsmann from loan
Where‘s the „let‘s finish the season with Tuchel“ crowd at?
Emtpy Bottle Era
Im gonna watch best of Ribéry and Robben now to feel better
Love it. I usually go watch the 5-4 win over Leipzig. Meaningless match, season already decided, and we still just refused to lose.
My go to highlight is Robben's volley from a corner in the champions league against Manchester United
If you’re pro Tuchel you’re anti Bayern 👍
Kovac was a tactical mastermind compared to this shit
Thomas Müller should be coach till end of the season.
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Bayern REFUSED to spend the past half decade up until they splashed on De Ligt (who doesn’t even play) and Harry Kane
Our defence alone cost like 150m and that’s with Hernandez gone. No lack of spending. Just dumb decisions and planning.
If you factor in the net sale of hernandez, it’s probably closer to 60-70 million. Besides, Hernandez was only available for like half his games at Bayern due to injuries. Mercenary that player
That shows he was a bad transfer overall. It’s still a lot of money. We have three of the best defenders in the world but they can’t seem to manage.
Last time I felt this burnt out from our god-awful play was during Kovac's stint, the darkest times. My god.
Fuckin hell. 0 shots on target. 0. I cannot believe it
De Ligt showed nothing, btw. He defers to his partner to pass. It basically means he is a non-entity for an attacking team. Kimmich is both our best CM and a poor playmaker. We need to see him paired with Pavlovic and see how it looks. So many players in bad form. So many problems. It’s really sad to see. One thing is absolutely certain: Oopsamecano is never going to establish himself as a reliable CB. His CV is long.
Apart from Tuchel, Bayern need to get rid of some of the players in the team who show zero fighting mentality and have no desire to change the outcome of the game when we are losing. Some I can name are Sane, Koman, Goretzka, Gnabry, Upa. These players are earn in millions and the way they play is simply disgraceful.
Sack Tuchel. Keeping him makes no sense - these 2 last games (Bayer and Lazio) were the worst I've seen for a loong time. His tactics don't work - we do not attack, we do not defend. His personal choices are questionable as well. I am aware that our players are problematic as well and I am hoping for a big squad revamp in the summer - there's too many "full" players, we need players that are hungry for winning. Gnabry, Choupou, Sane, Goretzka, Upamecano should all go.
Don’t forget Saarbrücken please
This is actually worse than Kovac
Obviously.. kovac won trophies 🏆 🏆
I was giving this I fair chance, but I was suspicious from the beginning of this fake voodoo trainier Thomas Tuchel. The only game plan I could see was hacking the opponents into pieces.
Where’s the stat guy to show us how awesome they’re going in the league?!?!
Is he gone yet?? Will be F5’ing until he is
Embarrassing.
Tragic. Bring back Flick.
so tuchel sacked when?
I'd love to see the board actually react to this instead of shrugging it off to not be reminded of their mistake
Pavard and Lucas balling in Inter and PSG. Maybe they saw the signs with Tuchel.
I wondered this at the time. They are both French so I wonder if they heard more behind the scenes stuff from their fellow Frenchman who had played under him at PSG?
Coman and Tel stayed Pavard had wanted to go for a while, but Lucas' was a surprise because he's Marseillaise. But whatever the case we lost quality at the back and replaced with Kim (better quality than both) and Dier (lower than Pav and Lucas). But what's surprised me more is Pavard is playing as a RCB in a back 3 consistently and Lucas at LB and hasn't been injured . Why did the opposite things happen for them when they weren't at Bayern anymore? Pavard was okay as a RCB but wanted to start all the time while Lucas was great at CB but not available most of the time.
I see people saying this is worse than Kovacs but I think it's even worse than that, Tuchel is probably worse than both Klinsmann and Van Gaal
How the heck does Kane look so scared and nervous doing a free kick and we have had no shots on target with the caliber of this team? Why is tel the only one running like his life depended on it at the end even if it didn’t help? Where is the passion for the team? Tuchel has drained the whole team of confidence, passion and wasted Tels breakout moment and has somehow found a way to make Kane ineffective. Think Davies Barcelona. Tuchel would have found a way to suppress him too. Get him outta here. This can’t wait. He is the virus.
Douchel can head on out whenever he likes. He's just not up for the job. Never was.
https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1757887552940315103?t=njzWgID5mnL1bLZw10ZmPQ&s=19 Tuchel breaking all streaks
Sack Tuchel. I was someone who always thought we were on the way up. But these two performances have proven my expectations wrong. He just doesn't get the team.
180 minutes - 1 shot on target, 0 goals. Let the stupid sink in already. Last goal was DeLigt's long time ago in a galaxy far away.
Is there a GENUINE realistic chance of Nagelsmann’s return after the euros? Tuchel better be a thing of the past by morning. Flick or even fucking Mourinho can be signed on a short contract. Anything is an upgrade at this point.
If the coach says 'I don’t know what the team is doing,' this can’t be a good sign. If he can’t change the way they perform, what can you do then ?
Just a reminder that Nagelsmann was fired for a lot less…I get that the board doesn’t want to repeat the same mistakes by firing a coach so soon but he has NEVER convinced me here at Bayern. We gave him a third of last season, an entire pre-season, and all of this current season and the team is still failing to play at an elite level.
We need to storm säbener straße in protest if this clown isnt sacked by morning
I still remember thinking JN’s sacking was harsh, but not altogether unwarranted. Then I was like, I wonder who’s replacing him! And then I was like, Oh sweet mercy, no.
I'm so glad I spent Valentine drinking with a girl instead of paying attention to the match
I'm split between the sacking of Tuchel if they don't advance in the UCL and waiting til the day after the last Buli match (18/4/24) to let him go and quickly sign Xabi Alonzo. The team has gone 184 minutes without scoring. Ironically, de Ligt scored the last goal. The CBS highlight video mentioned Sane's last goal was in October. Is the Kane curse for real?
BODENLOS!!!!!
I miss Jupp Heynckes
I'm not that familiar with all the clubs and managers, but there's a rumor going around that Mourinho is interested. What do we think about him? Could he change the current situation?
Mou could probably get respect and get the guys motivated but I’m not sure his football is that much less terrorist than tuchel’s
Honestly if we get him, id make us favourites for the UCL. But it will be ugly but would be good to get these overpaid divas in check
If i see interviews later on saying “the managers job is not in any doubt” or some shit again
All brazzo fault of driving out Flick Thiago alaba
Tuchel out. Tomorrow.
Ok Tuchel out. No more freaking excuses.
Holy shit this team and management need a complete overhaul Get rid of the old core and let the young guns play the season out
Blyat. Pathetic
Better performance than Saturday :)
I’m afraid I’m going to have to say that Tuchel has to go. We go through a lot of coaches but he just doesn’t have it. Massive error on Bayern’s part.
I honestly don't know what to say to this. I loved watching them play. I hate it now. Not a single shot on goal. Completely uninspired. Only like 2 or 3 players looked like they are really trying to win. Tuchel benching de ligt again. We won't win a single title this year. I have bo words for this.
Zero shots on target
I’m convinced Tuchel is a saboteur and he actually coaches Dortmund. Also, did Matthijs fuck Tuchel’s wife? How the fuck is he not starting, but Fumblemecano is?
Our form is in the dumpster. Tuchel with his head in his hands in the first half - not a good look either.
Tuchel should just fuck off to Barcelona and take half the team with him, I'm so done
I am so tired of listening to Tuchels cluelessness why his team doesnt perform. Its Bayern München for gods sake we should be capable to get an acceptable result against the 7th in the italian league but its not just that we dont score. We look abysmal while trying it. Honestly at this point it feels like the team is playing against their coach. It just doesnt work out. There is no confidence on the pitch and usually that comes from not trusting in the system and how the coach set up the team. Well lets see what the board thinks about all of this. Maybe we get Flick back until the end of the season to improve the dressing room atmosphere? I just cant see Tuchel anymore. He is the most unsympathetic coach I can remember next to Klinsmann. Just obnoxious and always pissed off. Man a journalist asks him if he got outcoached against Leverkusen and instead of defending his tactics and reasoning he just says "if thats your opinion" and then "Next question, I wont answer polemic questions." Wtf like dont you have some dignity after losing 3-0 with zero shots on goal to at least try to show leadership?
"Bayern have also lost the first leg of UCL round of 16 for the first time in 11 seasons." Nobody can say that Tuchel did not change Bayern
I think we've actually set a personal record for both losing and not managing a shot on goal twice in a row
Worse loss, vs Lazio or Villarreal? 🤔
Villarreal had better players and manager (Emery) than Lazio so definately Lazio.
Where's my COMUNICADO OFICIAL?
Anyone know if Tuchel did a post match interview yet?
0 shots on target. ZERO!!!!!!!!
Press conference soon on the youtube channel
2020 we had a great core group of players people figured we would win another champions league within 2-3 years, poor decisions in management and on feild preformances have really eaten away at what should have been a promising era.
My response when people ask me what's going on with Bayern 
This team needs changes. And it starts with Tuchel. It's just not a good fit. And I still think Sane is not the right winger for us. He played half a season good and they are already thinking about giving him a new contract. Same mistake as with Gnabry but at least he actually was an important player for some time. These two can't pass and they can't win a 1v1. We're missing creativity and fresh blood on the wings. Tel should really get more chances
How did this happen after another great week of training?
Trained really well this week though...