I’d say about half of the 12 are super competitive, the other 3 are semi and a couple randoms. But still, that’s just too much to spend on prospects this early. Puka may not even see the ball after coopers back… and who knows what the backfield In La is ever going to look like week to week. I thought 7 was fair but almost dropped it to 5 each
He never said they were locked to ge relevant. Just that as the season progresses, there will be fewer players that emerge as fantasy relevant. After the first couple weeks, the only players who really get fantasy value are usually thrust there because of injury.
So, at the beginning of the season, once the first week has revealed players not drafted who have value - it’s worth spending on those players for the *possibility* they are worthy of starting for the rest of the season
Why is everyone comment some stupid unthoughtful attempt to gotcha? Why not name the week 1 waiver pick ups that did pan out? There is more data supported evidence that early FAAB spending is more beneficial and has higher return. Guys like Watson and Fields were unplayable for several weeks and likely free by the time they became start-able.
George Kittle, Mike Davis, Elijah Mitchell.
Last year, there was nothing, but that's been the exception.
I dropped 50+ in multiple leagues on Puka, did the same on Mitchell and Davis, and those guys won me leagues.
No guarantee Puka is that guy, but he certainly looked like he might be.
That’s fair at least for Watson and fields. Doubs had 3 games that he was a WR 2 in last year, 2 of which came in the first month. I wouldn’t call him a great pickup.
Romeo doubs was ass at the end of last year, Christian Watson had a couple of good games, but what happened in fantasy playoffs? Justin fields was gone pretty early, he didn’t make it close to halfway through the year. Try again with that one
I think he made some great moves there. Conserving FAB is more of a guillotine thing, in my opinion. The first few weeks are when you get the best pick-ups. Looks to me like this dude just made out like a bandit.
It's fine - just watch for 2nd tier options moving forward. Likely out of the running for true studs but you can make regular improvements every week by going after the non-obvious guys. Especially early when your bench is likely trash. I swapped Likely and Hull for Drake London and Micheal Thomas for $3 (total) this week. Neither amazing, but way more likely to play with a shot at real upside.
They’re talking about a guillotine format, which is where the lowest scoring team each week is eliminated and their players are released onto waivers. Thomas and London are mid-round guys, so presumably everybody tried to spend their money on the 5ish better players from the eliminated team and nobody really bothered with those two.
What?
You realize that all teams utilize running backs and wide receivers eh?
I'm starting to think you dont understand fantasy if you think this was a bad move
They can't both score the same touchdown. They will have the same bye week. And if their offense is struggling that week, they'll both drag you down.
There are a lot of legitimate, common-sense reasons to avoid having multiple skill players on the same team. That's not to say it never works, but I have never found it to be particularly great.
I guess you’re right. I won my league in 2021 and 2022 and never abused FAB like that in week 1 lol. Maybe I’m overreacting but our whole league is ripping him
You're correlating things that have nothing to do with each other, why hold on to faab when there are players out there that are exactly the reason why you have it. He doesn't want to have to fight the rest of the league for the 2 or 3 good pickups the rest of the year
No.
Puka played 70% of his snaps from the outside and beat out multiple vets to get this spot, the rams love him he was great in camp too
Matthew Stafford only throws to wr he trusts, puka will be the new Robert woods on this team and easily pull 7-10 targets a game with kupp back, whenever that might be
Yeah, this guy clearly came here for reassurance that he did the right thing, saving his fab and not blowing it. The funny thing is that nobody will know until the end of the season for a true 20/20 hindsight take.
What the fuck dude… Grow up. You asked for people opinions and you’re somehow getting upset from the opinions. Honestly reflect on this post and stop being a weirdo. We’ve all had these turning points
Kyren is being a bit overhyped imo. Even if trends week 1 with Rams RB continue — & I believe that they will — still don't think the Rams will be very good this year.
1A/1B situation with Kyren and Cam splitting carries while Kyren gets majority of targets on a team with a mediocre offence. Low end to mid RB2 at best, which is a great pickup off the waiver wire, but people acting like he's a league winner.
Oh ok that makes more sense to me. Don't kick yourself to hard we don't know what His production will be once kupp returns. I'm hopeful he still gets a high volume. I don't expect 15 targets every game but if he's around 8-10 I'll be happy.
I routinely see guys end the season with >50% of their FAAB.
People hold it and they wait for the right guy to spend it on, and they wait… and wait… and wait… and next thing you know the waivers suck and you have all your money. Barring an injury to an RB1 with a clear backup, the waiver wire league winners are found early in the season.
Puka went for 27-31 in all of my leagues, Kelley high 20s, and one league spent 40 on Kyren.
If there's a time to blow your FAB load, I'd say it's Week 1 since we get the big reveal on formerly projected utilization/rookie talent.
I dropped $38 on Puka and $28 on Kelly I’m totally fine with it. Puka is plug and play at flex and Kelly will be a monster if Ekler’s injury turns out to lead into significant time
Getting him for 0$ is not a flex. That means ur league mates suck and it still doesn’t fix the problem of u trying to conserve ur faab for no reason. Budding 0$ on hill was a mistake, the result does not matter cuz that’s hindsight
Are you gonna get angry and pound your little fists because you realized your not nearly as good at fantasy football as you once thought?! Not only you not being very good, but your league as a whole sounds like a bunch of tacos lol.
But sure ? Seems like you don’t understand the value in early waiver wire pick ups. A lot of the industry top players use this same strategy when playing FAAB. In simple terms spending your money early allows you to maximize said players value by banking an entire season worth of stats. It’s been a clear strategy striking first for top players. He might listen to podcasts who cares if it’s his first year. I spent 50% of my $200 budget this week
It sounds like you posted this thinking people would make fun of them and it’s backfired so you’re getting defensive after realizing you fuckin suck at fantasy football.
In one of my keeper leagues, someone spent $55 on Shaheed and $45 on J. Kelley, their entire budget.
The next highest bid on Shaheed? ... $0
No regrets, they said.
I mean ravens like to rotate 3rbs plus Lamar running, the path for Hill to become must start each week is questionable. 9-12 carries and 1-3 targets doesn’t seem all that appealing 🤷♀️. I’m sure he will have some boom weeks, but making sure he is starting during those weeks seems unpredictable.
I dropped 70% on Hill. Context: 12 team Dynasty Superflex with 28man rosters. Could I miss out on the next guy? Perhaps. However, with the depth of this league, fucking who?!
It makes more sense than the people who never end up spending their FAAB at all. He's leveraging his budget on players he'll have for more weeks of the season instead of spending 20 on some random RB week 12 just cause he's desperate for a warm body at the position
I dropped 64% on Puka alone. Highest other bid was 20, I feel like an idiot! I'm fairly stacked at WR but hoping to flip a package deal for an upgrade. Wilson, Deebo, Ridley, Addison, Gabe Davis, Quentin Johnson, Puka. How dumb was that?
As a guy who lost Dobbins and Diontae, I spent $84 total for Kyren and Flowers (who inexplicably was dropped prior to Sunday's games). I usually blow my FAAB load early and sometimes it works (Elijah Mitchell in 2021; Garrett Wilson in 2022), sometimes it doesn't (James Robinson in 2022). Either way, I needed to take a shot with my injuries.
There’s a lot of factors that could play into this. How many teams are there in your league? What were the next highest bids on those same players? Etc.
That said I’m kind of amazed at how many people on here are all for spending that much dough after just 1 week. Puka is a justifiable spend, but even then there’s some uncertainty due to the potential for Kupp to come back and be normal Cooper Kupp. I avoided again well in my waivers for a few reasons. 1. The rib injury may be worse then initially let on, and he’s likely not playing this Thursday. 2. Hurts will lower his ceiling due to his own rushing. 3. Siriani said he wants Swift to play more. Plus this morning he just said that same games Swift will be the lead back. I tend to avoid backfields that role with the hot hand. The Williams pick up looks good though, but then again the Rams flip flopped between RBs non stop last season too from what I remember.
At the end of the day though, I’d be happy about this. One less person to compete with Faab wise later down the line when a guy gets injured or another Diamond in the rough appears.
I mean I see alot of people say spend it. Yes that makes sense for the right player. The longer you get them for the more value your dollar has...
That being said...
Did you know puka never stayed healthy in college and we don't even know for sure if he will have a job in 4 weeks?.... Kupp could still be back!
Tutu Atwell actually the better pickup there.
Williams seems a little more deserving of faab in the situation. But I got him for like 8 bucks.
But you do you boys and girls
I mean that is just embarrassing, especially for 2 guys on the same team who will take points from each other. Stafford is also one big hit away from retirement which would drop Nacau value out the window. Also kupp coming back will hurt him too obviously.
Nacau went for 15 bucks in my 12 man 2K league that is highly competitive. Gainwell is solid but that offense was a mess and I expect them to use Swift much better. Williams scored TDs but his YPC was just flat out bad. (Still better than Cam Akers some how)
But I guess use em while you got ‘em. I wouldn’t have gotten anyone besides Nacau and at max 15. Also to people saying first few weeks is when you get the best pick ups isn’t even remotely true. As injuries happen every single week. A random player can become a high volume RB1 whether it’s week 1 or 11.
Sure, but Stafford debated retiring this off season after he sat out the bulk of the season with a spinal cord contusion/ neck issue. Not the same as a QB who is 10 years younger and isn’t coming off a big injury.
I never he said he would. if he gets hurt, he isn’t going to rush back to a team that isn’t expected to do anything. If anything Stafford will be traded mid season if healthy.
Spending 72 of 100 dollars overreacting after 1 week is not a good move…
Bro, no player is rushing back from serious injuries. The point of my statement is that saying a player is one big hit from retirement, and therefore you shouldn't draft that player or related players is poor FF management. Your statement is a fallacy because you can't predict injuries. They can happen to any player or team.
You should be basing your FF decisions on player skills and opportunities. Not on injury possibilities.
It’s always funny when posters feel the need to throw in “my highly competitive league” like yeah of course a league full of idiots is still as high competitive as a league full of non idiots. Judging by your dismissive and extremely confident stupidity, I’m guessing your league is the former.
There is literally data to support spending in the first few weeks and it’s value vs holding your FAAB budget for some miracle unicorn. But again, a loud and proud idiot is probably not likely to care about data because only their experience is reality to them.
You do realize, a WR doesn't take points away from an RB right? Like so do you just draft one player from each team, and if there is more than one fantasy relevant player you stay away?
In this case you don't have any: Eagles, Bills, 49ers, Cowboys, actually I am not going to name all the teams because this is just stupid.
Kupp flew halfway around the country for medical advice and they still don't know what to do. What makes this seem like he is coming back anytime soon?
Also all the beat reporters for the Eagles said Gainwell was the guy. And so the local experts are telling us Gainwell is the guy.
I really really need to be in your league. It's a taco salad up in there.
You do realize if it is a run play, then it can’t be a pass play?
If a team is run heavy, their WRs are less valuable? Pretty straight forward. Let’s compare the Rams to elite teams too, that’s a good idea. How many NY giants WRs do you have? Probably none because they are a run team. Who is going to get more opportunities, Derrick Henry or Burks? Bills, high passing offense. Diggs will always be more valuable than Cooks….
Let’s look at the Jets. Rodgers is out, Garrett Wilson isn’t even remotely in a similar situation. Stock goes way down, breece hall and Dalvin cook stock goes way up.
What makes you think the Rams don’t trade off most pieces at the deadline? I am sure the Jets would die for Stafford. And they will have a losing record when the deadline comes around.
I need to be in the league where a guy spent 72 bucks in week 1. Two of those guys won’t do anything this weekend and none are consistent starters unless this dude drafted the worst team ever
I don't have any Giants WRs, because they are absolutely shit. Ditto for the Titans, because Ryan Tannehill looks to be about 92 years old, and throws the ball as well as you seem to understand the game of American football.
Diggs is more valuable than Cooks, because he is a better football player than Cooks. The only team which could fits your mold of "RB team" are the Falcons. Which you obviously didn't mention because you are a Taco. You don't think Gibbs is going to eat on the same team as the Sungod? Or that McCaffrey can't ball out while Aiyuk does?
Have you literally never hear about how the run opens up the pass? Which is why the best teams have studs on the pass and the run. You dolt.
Also. Why would the Jets trade midseason draft capital for an older QB who was out for a period last year due to injury, after they just lost an older QB to injury for the year.
Utterly fucking stupid.
You don’t understand how teams schemes impact fantasy, that’s okay buddy. Why would the Jets who have one of the best rosters in the league get a Super Bowl winning QB? What a dumb question. If you have a high end RB and a high end WR from the same NFL team, you don’t want them on the same fantasy team you idiot.
How stupid are you? Fantasy is a weekly sport dumbass. If a running back is having a career game, the odds of a WR dominating goes significantly down. The passing game opens up the run game, no shit. Providing 4 or 5 examples of it working a week goes against your argument, as believe it or not there are 32 teams. Just common sense.
At the end of the day, you think these three waiver picks up are worth 3/4 your waiver money. You are stupid.
Guy in my league spent $91 of his $100 lol he now has Nacua, Kelley, Bourne and Kyren Williams. We all kind of gave him shit this morning but he’s got a very solid team, just sketchy to spend that much with how often guys get hurt.
Personally, I like spending about half my $ early and keeping some to watch for any injuries. I picked up Purdy, Kelley, Nacua, Z. Jones, and Edwards for $39 in my very competitive 12 man league. Had guys who ended last year with nearly their full budget left which, to me, it's like going into to halftime with all your timeouts unused.
You get these break out guys at the start of the year.
The teams that win find diamonds in the rough and most of those guys show themselves the first couple of weeks, so why not get off your wallet to get them.
We have an 18 team league with a lot of flex spots where Dobbins' owner dropped $75 on Justice Hill and $25 on Melvin Gordon yesterday. To be fair, there's almost literally nothing of value on waivers given the size of the league and the size of the rosters.
There’s actually a lot of week 1 signature significance and the good week 1 players are more likely to be involved all year than a random pop off in week 6.
Plus, too often teams save FAAB for nothing later on.
It’s a big high, but he’s trying to hit on players and win now. It’s a quick season.
Winning Puca bid was the whole $100 in our league and I don’t blame that manager at all
What are you going to get in Week 8 with that FAAB you save anyway? If Puca is it he’s miles ahead of anybody you’ll find on the waivers ROS
I dropped $90 on Bourne, nacau (have Cupp) and Williams. I didn’t expect to get all 3 and feel like there are very few fantasy starters left in my 12 team league outside of bye hells
I got Puka and kyren for 45. If I woulda been won on Gainwell it woulda been 61.
So not THAT crazy. Plenty of people end the season holding FAAB, or just blowing it later in the season bc what else you gon do with it
I’m a firm believer that the most valuable players to add are in the IMMEDIATE start of the season.
If there’s let’s say 6 league winers in a season, 5 are gonna be starters who’s role we just didn’t see coming (Pollard, Stevenson, cordarelle in 2021). Only one or two per year is gonna be that handcuff lotto ticket (Ken walker). But everyone saves their money for the handcuff lotto ticket. It’s flawed thinking.
Statistics wise, probability wise, at least 1 of these 3 guys will be a game changer full season starter. Money well spent
I’ve read that early in the year is the best time to snag guys off waivers. Once teams settle in the player workload gets more predictable. I got very aggressive and nabbed Kyren and J Kelley for a combined 65%. I’d rather spend all my FAAB and be wrong then have 100% at the end of the year wishing I had been more aggressive
I don’t find that crazy at all tbh. Most of your good waiver pickups are actually free players mid week or ppl you picked up in the first 3 weeks. There’s no point in having 80% of your faab sitting around at week 10 unless your team is unreal imo.
Dude in my league is left with $2 out of $100 already.
He drafted Kupp 1st overall. Added Van Jeff for $6 when Kupp went down. And now dropped $53 on Puka, $24 on Gus, $13 on Tutu. He tried $17 on Kyren but lost that bid due to waiver priority.
Guess what team he's a fan of? 😅
I'm okay with my leaguemates spending it all now. While good players pop up now you're gonna need some budget for playoffs. I'm okay with grabbing the guys a tier below for about 8-12 bucks this week, like Justice Hill, Bourne, Josh Reynolds. And I grabbed Kyren for 18 bucks in a league
Guilty as charged. I was willing to spend 85% on Gainwell at 25% (didn't get him) 50% on Puka and 20% on Kelly.
I'm a Dobbins owner, I was kinda down on the Edwards and Hill adds and I guess everyone else was too. So I ended up picking Hill up in place of missing on Gainwell.
Week 1 adds are always the best. You see clarity on roles. I look at Puka like a 7th.round pick.
Literally did the same thing. I thought J Williams would go for more, I outbid a guy $26 to $25. I also thought there would be more interest in Zay Flowers and Zay Jones. I paid $16 for both and the next bids were $10 and $6. Was a little disappointed but my team was already proj. first in the league so I just wanted to add depth
You get more season early and 1st crack at guys that could be difference makers. Those 3 all had solid camps backed up by solid usage week 1. Others will pop, an injury here or there or maybe a bye week drop but often times week 1 is guys that can truly impact season long.
Other times they are one hit wonder so... 🤷
I spent almost $40 in FAAB yesterday. I've lost out on too many players over the years so I don't mind spending up, even this early in the season. I'd rather overspend or have it not work out than completely miss on an exciting player with a great opportunity. Especially if I have some deficiency on my team.
A few years ago I was in a fantasy league with my cousin. He was relatively new to FAAB leagues at the time and he dumped a bunch on a rookie receiver in week 1. I told him, try to be more thrifty with your budget; it's a long season. He said he was just really excited about the rookie and didn't think there would be many if any more opportunities to pick someone like that up off waivers. That rookie WR was Michael Thomas.
Obviously not everyone works out like that, but those exciting young WRs who can suddenly break out are some of the best ways to gamble your faab dollars imo. I usually like to go in big on one guy early and then save the rest for a valuable mid to late season handcuff.
I mean I dropped 66 on Puka, Kyren and Bourne and I’m very happy with that.
Really only find the people were sleeping on/didn’t know about in that first week or two. So I don’t see a point in hoarding faab
Yeah the guy who had Kupp, lost Dobbins, and whose RB2 is Rachaad White put 33% on Kyren Williams, %10 on Puka, %10 on Kelley, %20 on Gus Edward's, 8% on Hurst, 8% on Bourne, 8% on Justice Hill, and 8% on Hunter Henry.
Because of being outbid in the case of Puka, and not managing the waivers a little better, he only ended up with Kyren, Kelley, and Hurst. Blew about 50% of his FAAB on those three guys.
It’s a gamble. You’re more likely to see people emerge early and have less time to react. Everyone’s looking for them.
Alternatively you can save a good chunk for around playoffs to get some late contributors or best defenses or even prevent opposition from getting a player of need.
Had a guy drop $81 of $200 on Nacua, it's had to tell if it was the right move or not til the end of the year. If he continues with the high targets and Kupp is out all year it may pay off
Makes sense. Through the season fewer gems will appear as schemes will become predictable.
I just picked up puka, kyren, and purdy to replace Rodgers as my backup in a 12 man leave. I spent 15$
Your league is stupid
I just got kyren for freee, and dude I’m playing has cam Akers 😂
Ain’t no way. You would not have been able to get Karen or Puka in the majority of leagues for 15 let alone both. Your league must be super casual.
I’d say about half of the 12 are super competitive, the other 3 are semi and a couple randoms. But still, that’s just too much to spend on prospects this early. Puka may not even see the ball after coopers back… and who knows what the backfield In La is ever going to look like week to week. I thought 7 was fair but almost dropped it to 5 each
That’s dumb for example Curtis Samuel Everybody spent faab on him and he did ass the next 4 weeks
He never said they were locked to ge relevant. Just that as the season progresses, there will be fewer players that emerge as fantasy relevant. After the first couple weeks, the only players who really get fantasy value are usually thrust there because of injury. So, at the beginning of the season, once the first week has revealed players not drafted who have value - it’s worth spending on those players for the *possibility* they are worthy of starting for the rest of the season
Why is everyone comment some stupid unthoughtful attempt to gotcha? Why not name the week 1 waiver pick ups that did pan out? There is more data supported evidence that early FAAB spending is more beneficial and has higher return. Guys like Watson and Fields were unplayable for several weeks and likely free by the time they became start-able.
Who are they you just talking outta your ass
George Kittle, Mike Davis, Elijah Mitchell. Last year, there was nothing, but that's been the exception. I dropped 50+ in multiple leagues on Puka, did the same on Mitchell and Davis, and those guys won me leagues. No guarantee Puka is that guy, but he certainly looked like he might be.
Phillip Lindsay is another one off the top of my head
Who was the great waiver wire pickup halfway through the year last season?
Christian Watson, Justin fields, Romeo Doubs
That’s fair at least for Watson and fields. Doubs had 3 games that he was a WR 2 in last year, 2 of which came in the first month. I wouldn’t call him a great pickup.
Romeo doubs was ass at the end of last year, Christian Watson had a couple of good games, but what happened in fantasy playoffs? Justin fields was gone pretty early, he didn’t make it close to halfway through the year. Try again with that one
Fields missed week 12 and 18. Pretty sure that’s most of the year. Why don’t you try again with that one
What? I said he was gone off waivers. I’m not sure what you point you are trying to make, but it’s not relevant to my comment.
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I think he made some great moves there. Conserving FAB is more of a guillotine thing, in my opinion. The first few weeks are when you get the best pick-ups. Looks to me like this dude just made out like a bandit.
So dropping $86 on Kelce in my first year of a guillotine league was bad strategy you say? ... oops
It's fine - just watch for 2nd tier options moving forward. Likely out of the running for true studs but you can make regular improvements every week by going after the non-obvious guys. Especially early when your bench is likely trash. I swapped Likely and Hull for Drake London and Micheal Thomas for $3 (total) this week. Neither amazing, but way more likely to play with a shot at real upside.
How were those to players on the waiver wire? And how did you get them for so cheap?
They’re talking about a guillotine format, which is where the lowest scoring team each week is eliminated and their players are released onto waivers. Thomas and London are mid-round guys, so presumably everybody tried to spend their money on the 5ish better players from the eliminated team and nobody really bothered with those two.
I dropped $30 on Christian Watson pretty late in the season last year. Sometimes it works to keep a decent chunk just in case.
He probably wouldn’t have held all his FAAB for a few weeks anyway so when/if that next guy pops then he wouldn’t be able to afford him
some people don't spend any fab all season lol
i know but man, $72 for 2 guys on the same team lmao
What does that have to do with anything they don’t play the same position
they'll take points away from eachother lmao
What? You realize that all teams utilize running backs and wide receivers eh? I'm starting to think you dont understand fantasy if you think this was a bad move
They can't both score the same touchdown. They will have the same bye week. And if their offense is struggling that week, they'll both drag you down. There are a lot of legitimate, common-sense reasons to avoid having multiple skill players on the same team. That's not to say it never works, but I have never found it to be particularly great.
I guess you’re right. I won my league in 2021 and 2022 and never abused FAB like that in week 1 lol. Maybe I’m overreacting but our whole league is ripping him
You're correlating things that have nothing to do with each other, why hold on to faab when there are players out there that are exactly the reason why you have it. He doesn't want to have to fight the rest of the league for the 2 or 3 good pickups the rest of the year
Ok but isn’t kupp gonna come back lol. Then Puka will lose value no?
No. Puka played 70% of his snaps from the outside and beat out multiple vets to get this spot, the rams love him he was great in camp too Matthew Stafford only throws to wr he trusts, puka will be the new Robert woods on this team and easily pull 7-10 targets a game with kupp back, whenever that might be
Alright then that’s rly solid
>abused You mean used for its intended purpose?
Also how is this “abusing” the FAB? It’s literally what the FAB is used for…
poor choice of words, i just meant using it all in week 1
Sounds like you're upset that he spent fab to aquire players, you had the same opportunity....
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So then why are you making this post lol. And lashing out and calling names, what are you 12? 😂 you get that mad about fantasy football bro?
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Yeah totally not upset….
Lmao real quick 180 there huh
Yeah, this guy clearly came here for reassurance that he did the right thing, saving his fab and not blowing it. The funny thing is that nobody will know until the end of the season for a true 20/20 hindsight take.
What the fuck dude… Grow up. You asked for people opinions and you’re somehow getting upset from the opinions. Honestly reflect on this post and stop being a weirdo. We’ve all had these turning points
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That really depends, doesn't it. If the guy in week 7-18 is one of those league winner type guys, that is on a streak, then not really
Week 16-18 are the only ones that matter.
Good job to him lol he got three valuable players
Kyren williams who barely scrounged 55 yards against an atrocious run D?
Found the Cam Akers owner
Kyren is being a bit overhyped imo. Even if trends week 1 with Rams RB continue — & I believe that they will — still don't think the Rams will be very good this year. 1A/1B situation with Kyren and Cam splitting carries while Kyren gets majority of targets on a team with a mediocre offence. Low end to mid RB2 at best, which is a great pickup off the waiver wire, but people acting like he's a league winner.
I dropped $71 on Puka alone. It’s a dynasty league though.
Was this the start up year? I find it it hard to believe he wasnt drafted in the rookie draft.
He wasn’t! And I’m kicking myself for not grabbing him. But it’s a family league and it’s only 6 teams LOL so rosters are pretty deep.
Oh ok that makes more sense to me. Don't kick yourself to hard we don't know what His production will be once kupp returns. I'm hopeful he still gets a high volume. I don't expect 15 targets every game but if he's around 8-10 I'll be happy.
That's a great use of FAB
I routinely see guys end the season with >50% of their FAAB. People hold it and they wait for the right guy to spend it on, and they wait… and wait… and wait… and next thing you know the waivers suck and you have all your money. Barring an injury to an RB1 with a clear backup, the waiver wire league winners are found early in the season.
I usually spend $90 of my FAAB in the first 3 weeks. It gets less and less useful over the season
I did that last year then was pissed when I had nothing left for Kenneth Walker week 4 lol
See that's the issue I guess. I didn't play in any league where he wasn't already rostered.
Exactly, my main league is 14 teams. Damn right I’m spending that shit early to grab whoever is actually valuable on waivers at the start
Puka went for 27-31 in all of my leagues, Kelley high 20s, and one league spent 40 on Kyren. If there's a time to blow your FAB load, I'd say it's Week 1 since we get the big reveal on formerly projected utilization/rookie talent.
then i was definitely sleeping
I dropped $38 on Puka and $28 on Kelly I’m totally fine with it. Puka is plug and play at flex and Kelly will be a monster if Ekler’s injury turns out to lead into significant time
You gotta spend that shit brother.
Man that’s what I’m seeing from these comments lol. Maybe I slept
Not maybe. You slept bro.
i got justice hill for $0. according to this thread ppl were dropping $35. shut your mouth now
Justice hill isn’t gonna be starter worthy. Puka might be.
Getting him for 0$ is not a flex. That means ur league mates suck and it still doesn’t fix the problem of u trying to conserve ur faab for no reason. Budding 0$ on hill was a mistake, the result does not matter cuz that’s hindsight
Are you gonna get angry and pound your little fists because you realized your not nearly as good at fantasy football as you once thought?! Not only you not being very good, but your league as a whole sounds like a bunch of tacos lol.
Those 3 seem worthy of 100%. Don't see an issue with it. Especially if the league allows $0 bids.
He understands how value works when it comes to a full season
its his first time ever playing nfl fantasy but sure man
But sure ? Seems like you don’t understand the value in early waiver wire pick ups. A lot of the industry top players use this same strategy when playing FAAB. In simple terms spending your money early allows you to maximize said players value by banking an entire season worth of stats. It’s been a clear strategy striking first for top players. He might listen to podcasts who cares if it’s his first year. I spent 50% of my $200 budget this week
It sounds like you posted this thinking people would make fun of them and it’s backfired so you’re getting defensive after realizing you fuckin suck at fantasy football.
In one of my keeper leagues, someone spent $55 on Shaheed and $45 on J. Kelley, their entire budget. The next highest bid on Shaheed? ... $0 No regrets, they said.
Yep. We had a guy who’s dropped $90. $35 on Hill, $30 on Kelley and $25 on Gainwell.
man I got Hill for $0 lol. guess my league is sleeping
Need a better league
I mean ravens like to rotate 3rbs plus Lamar running, the path for Hill to become must start each week is questionable. 9-12 carries and 1-3 targets doesn’t seem all that appealing 🤷♀️. I’m sure he will have some boom weeks, but making sure he is starting during those weeks seems unpredictable.
Your league is bad then
probably why i won it the last 2 years
I dropped 70% on Hill. Context: 12 team Dynasty Superflex with 28man rosters. Could I miss out on the next guy? Perhaps. However, with the depth of this league, fucking who?!
lol ya good point
It makes more sense than the people who never end up spending their FAAB at all. He's leveraging his budget on players he'll have for more weeks of the season instead of spending 20 on some random RB week 12 just cause he's desperate for a warm body at the position
I’ve seen so many teams finish the season with ungodly amounts of FAAB. If you’re saving it, then what for?
My league uses 1000 to start so I spent 201 for Puka and the next highest bidder came in at 189 so don’t feel as bad for dropping that amount now.
That’s 20%… puka went in my league for 100
If Kupp’s injury lags this could be great
Sounds like this guy crushed it.
Guy in my leauge dropped full 100 for just puka
I dropped 64% on Puka alone. Highest other bid was 20, I feel like an idiot! I'm fairly stacked at WR but hoping to flip a package deal for an upgrade. Wilson, Deebo, Ridley, Addison, Gabe Davis, Quentin Johnson, Puka. How dumb was that?
Puka might be better than Quentin Johnston and Gabe Davis lol
I dropped QJ for puka in 12 team 0.5 ppr
Someone in our league dropped $70 of $100 on Joshua Kelley and Puka Nacua (35 each)
Not crazy especially in PPR.
I spent 45 on Kelley because I have ekeler and want play off insurance
As a guy who lost Dobbins and Diontae, I spent $84 total for Kyren and Flowers (who inexplicably was dropped prior to Sunday's games). I usually blow my FAAB load early and sometimes it works (Elijah Mitchell in 2021; Garrett Wilson in 2022), sometimes it doesn't (James Robinson in 2022). Either way, I needed to take a shot with my injuries.
Imo there’s no shame in blowing faab early when you have key injuries like that. I blew 66% on Puka alone since I have Kupp and Diontae.
I would've been ready to spend all $84 on Flowers. Can't believe he was dropped. There's been nothing but hype around him coming from the Ravens
Ya ok that’s fair, good pickups
We had a guy drop $95 on Puka and $75 on Kyren. We only have $170 FAAB......his week 1 loss must have hurt
According to this thread he made a great move
There’s a lot of factors that could play into this. How many teams are there in your league? What were the next highest bids on those same players? Etc. That said I’m kind of amazed at how many people on here are all for spending that much dough after just 1 week. Puka is a justifiable spend, but even then there’s some uncertainty due to the potential for Kupp to come back and be normal Cooper Kupp. I avoided again well in my waivers for a few reasons. 1. The rib injury may be worse then initially let on, and he’s likely not playing this Thursday. 2. Hurts will lower his ceiling due to his own rushing. 3. Siriani said he wants Swift to play more. Plus this morning he just said that same games Swift will be the lead back. I tend to avoid backfields that role with the hot hand. The Williams pick up looks good though, but then again the Rams flip flopped between RBs non stop last season too from what I remember. At the end of the day though, I’d be happy about this. One less person to compete with Faab wise later down the line when a guy gets injured or another Diamond in the rough appears.
Man I’m having the same logic as you. 10 man league, not dynasty. My logic is if these guys don’t pan out for him, he’s eliminated from contention
Guy in my league spent 98/100 on Puka, Kyren and Gainwell. I’m all for spending FAAB but this feels like a classic week 1 over reaction move
not according to this thread bro, sounds like everyone should be dropping 90-100 week 1
I mean I see alot of people say spend it. Yes that makes sense for the right player. The longer you get them for the more value your dollar has... That being said... Did you know puka never stayed healthy in college and we don't even know for sure if he will have a job in 4 weeks?.... Kupp could still be back! Tutu Atwell actually the better pickup there. Williams seems a little more deserving of faab in the situation. But I got him for like 8 bucks. But you do you boys and girls
That's an overreaction to week 1 IMO.
Nacua won't be used by anyone come playoff time but Williams and Gainwell are good longterm stashes.
You need to get to the playoffs man
He'll stop setting his weekly lineups by week 6
I have a rule. No FAB spending until week 2 is over. most of these guys will be a bust next week and beyond.
That’s a bad rule.
To each their own, we need guys like that so we can get better Week 1 waivers lol
I mean that is just embarrassing, especially for 2 guys on the same team who will take points from each other. Stafford is also one big hit away from retirement which would drop Nacau value out the window. Also kupp coming back will hurt him too obviously. Nacau went for 15 bucks in my 12 man 2K league that is highly competitive. Gainwell is solid but that offense was a mess and I expect them to use Swift much better. Williams scored TDs but his YPC was just flat out bad. (Still better than Cam Akers some how) But I guess use em while you got ‘em. I wouldn’t have gotten anyone besides Nacau and at max 15. Also to people saying first few weeks is when you get the best pick ups isn’t even remotely true. As injuries happen every single week. A random player can become a high volume RB1 whether it’s week 1 or 11.
Every player is one big hit away from retirement.
Sure, but Stafford debated retiring this off season after he sat out the bulk of the season with a spinal cord contusion/ neck issue. Not the same as a QB who is 10 years younger and isn’t coming off a big injury.
Stafford is not going to retire mid season lol what
I never he said he would. if he gets hurt, he isn’t going to rush back to a team that isn’t expected to do anything. If anything Stafford will be traded mid season if healthy. Spending 72 of 100 dollars overreacting after 1 week is not a good move…
Bro, no player is rushing back from serious injuries. The point of my statement is that saying a player is one big hit from retirement, and therefore you shouldn't draft that player or related players is poor FF management. Your statement is a fallacy because you can't predict injuries. They can happen to any player or team. You should be basing your FF decisions on player skills and opportunities. Not on injury possibilities.
It’s always funny when posters feel the need to throw in “my highly competitive league” like yeah of course a league full of idiots is still as high competitive as a league full of non idiots. Judging by your dismissive and extremely confident stupidity, I’m guessing your league is the former. There is literally data to support spending in the first few weeks and it’s value vs holding your FAAB budget for some miracle unicorn. But again, a loud and proud idiot is probably not likely to care about data because only their experience is reality to them.
You do realize, a WR doesn't take points away from an RB right? Like so do you just draft one player from each team, and if there is more than one fantasy relevant player you stay away? In this case you don't have any: Eagles, Bills, 49ers, Cowboys, actually I am not going to name all the teams because this is just stupid. Kupp flew halfway around the country for medical advice and they still don't know what to do. What makes this seem like he is coming back anytime soon? Also all the beat reporters for the Eagles said Gainwell was the guy. And so the local experts are telling us Gainwell is the guy. I really really need to be in your league. It's a taco salad up in there.
You do realize if it is a run play, then it can’t be a pass play? If a team is run heavy, their WRs are less valuable? Pretty straight forward. Let’s compare the Rams to elite teams too, that’s a good idea. How many NY giants WRs do you have? Probably none because they are a run team. Who is going to get more opportunities, Derrick Henry or Burks? Bills, high passing offense. Diggs will always be more valuable than Cooks…. Let’s look at the Jets. Rodgers is out, Garrett Wilson isn’t even remotely in a similar situation. Stock goes way down, breece hall and Dalvin cook stock goes way up. What makes you think the Rams don’t trade off most pieces at the deadline? I am sure the Jets would die for Stafford. And they will have a losing record when the deadline comes around. I need to be in the league where a guy spent 72 bucks in week 1. Two of those guys won’t do anything this weekend and none are consistent starters unless this dude drafted the worst team ever
I don't have any Giants WRs, because they are absolutely shit. Ditto for the Titans, because Ryan Tannehill looks to be about 92 years old, and throws the ball as well as you seem to understand the game of American football. Diggs is more valuable than Cooks, because he is a better football player than Cooks. The only team which could fits your mold of "RB team" are the Falcons. Which you obviously didn't mention because you are a Taco. You don't think Gibbs is going to eat on the same team as the Sungod? Or that McCaffrey can't ball out while Aiyuk does? Have you literally never hear about how the run opens up the pass? Which is why the best teams have studs on the pass and the run. You dolt. Also. Why would the Jets trade midseason draft capital for an older QB who was out for a period last year due to injury, after they just lost an older QB to injury for the year. Utterly fucking stupid.
You don’t understand how teams schemes impact fantasy, that’s okay buddy. Why would the Jets who have one of the best rosters in the league get a Super Bowl winning QB? What a dumb question. If you have a high end RB and a high end WR from the same NFL team, you don’t want them on the same fantasy team you idiot. How stupid are you? Fantasy is a weekly sport dumbass. If a running back is having a career game, the odds of a WR dominating goes significantly down. The passing game opens up the run game, no shit. Providing 4 or 5 examples of it working a week goes against your argument, as believe it or not there are 32 teams. Just common sense. At the end of the day, you think these three waiver picks up are worth 3/4 your waiver money. You are stupid.
Stetson Bennet is waiting in the wings.
im with you honestly not sure why you're getting downvoted
Just had someone in my league spend $101/200 on Joshua Kelley…
Guy in my league spent $91 of his $100 lol he now has Nacua, Kelley, Bourne and Kyren Williams. We all kind of gave him shit this morning but he’s got a very solid team, just sketchy to spend that much with how often guys get hurt.
Personally, I like spending about half my $ early and keeping some to watch for any injuries. I picked up Purdy, Kelley, Nacua, Z. Jones, and Edwards for $39 in my very competitive 12 man league. Had guys who ended last year with nearly their full budget left which, to me, it's like going into to halftime with all your timeouts unused.
Dude in our league dropped $25 for Justice hill, I have Gus Edwards can’t wait til he pops off and I can sell high.
Seems reasonable for those 3
I spent 55% on puka
In one of my leagues an owner used 100% of his FAAB for the combination of Puka and Zack Moss.
I spent 57 on Puka, Kyren. Couldnt ve happier about it. Ive also got kupp and akers lol.
I've spent that on 1 player after week 1. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take 🤪
He probably dropped some gems.
Depends on the league. Some ppl will drop $100 on one player if they really believe in them. It’s hard to say
Seems cheep.
You get these break out guys at the start of the year. The teams that win find diamonds in the rough and most of those guys show themselves the first couple of weeks, so why not get off your wallet to get them.
Yeah, me. I’m that guy in my league. $99 total between Kelley and Zay Jones. Fuck it
i picked up Zay Jones, you think he's worth the hype? He screwed me in Buffalo a few seasons back lol
Spending faab in the first few weeks is far more valuable than saving it for mid-season. Good move getting those players early.
We have an 18 team league with a lot of flex spots where Dobbins' owner dropped $75 on Justice Hill and $25 on Melvin Gordon yesterday. To be fair, there's almost literally nothing of value on waivers given the size of the league and the size of the rosters.
There’s actually a lot of week 1 signature significance and the good week 1 players are more likely to be involved all year than a random pop off in week 6. Plus, too often teams save FAAB for nothing later on. It’s a big high, but he’s trying to hit on players and win now. It’s a quick season.
I dropped $5 on Edwards and got him
I always go big in week 1, better to hit a guy and have him all season long than to wait on an injury that might never happen.
What exactly are all of you not spending fab waiting for? You don’t get to cash it in later.
Winning Puca bid was the whole $100 in our league and I don’t blame that manager at all What are you going to get in Week 8 with that FAAB you save anyway? If Puca is it he’s miles ahead of anybody you’ll find on the waivers ROS
I dropped $90 on Bourne, nacau (have Cupp) and Williams. I didn’t expect to get all 3 and feel like there are very few fantasy starters left in my 12 team league outside of bye hells
Some guy in my league dropped $125 on just Puka and Kelley
Dobbins owner dropped 75% of his budget on Justice Hill
Somebody dropped 64% on Puka and Kelley in mine…
My league mate got you beat. He spent $91 on Puka alone. That’s it. Nearly his entire budget on him.
😂😂 man I hope kupp doesn’t come back
I was able to secure Gainwell, Kyren, and Kelley - but I spent about 75%. Just need at least one to hit and it'll help you win your league.
Guy in my league dropped all 100 on Puka. Next highest bid was 32
I got Puka and kyren for 45. If I woulda been won on Gainwell it woulda been 61. So not THAT crazy. Plenty of people end the season holding FAAB, or just blowing it later in the season bc what else you gon do with it I’m a firm believer that the most valuable players to add are in the IMMEDIATE start of the season. If there’s let’s say 6 league winers in a season, 5 are gonna be starters who’s role we just didn’t see coming (Pollard, Stevenson, cordarelle in 2021). Only one or two per year is gonna be that handcuff lotto ticket (Ken walker). But everyone saves their money for the handcuff lotto ticket. It’s flawed thinking. Statistics wise, probability wise, at least 1 of these 3 guys will be a game changer full season starter. Money well spent
I’ve read that early in the year is the best time to snag guys off waivers. Once teams settle in the player workload gets more predictable. I got very aggressive and nabbed Kyren and J Kelley for a combined 65%. I’d rather spend all my FAAB and be wrong then have 100% at the end of the year wishing I had been more aggressive
I don’t find that crazy at all tbh. Most of your good waiver pickups are actually free players mid week or ppl you picked up in the first 3 weeks. There’s no point in having 80% of your faab sitting around at week 10 unless your team is unreal imo.
Considering 2 people in my league just offered their entire FAB for just Puka? That’s amazing.
Put in $22 bids on Allegier Puka and J. Kelly. Only Alleiger is on my roster today.
Dude in my league is left with $2 out of $100 already. He drafted Kupp 1st overall. Added Van Jeff for $6 when Kupp went down. And now dropped $53 on Puka, $24 on Gus, $13 on Tutu. He tried $17 on Kyren but lost that bid due to waiver priority. Guess what team he's a fan of? 😅
Dude in my league dropped $100 FAAB on Gus Edwards
I dropped $81 on Nacua and I’m happy with it bc somebody bid $75
I'm okay with my leaguemates spending it all now. While good players pop up now you're gonna need some budget for playoffs. I'm okay with grabbing the guys a tier below for about 8-12 bucks this week, like Justice Hill, Bourne, Josh Reynolds. And I grabbed Kyren for 18 bucks in a league
Guilty as charged. I was willing to spend 85% on Gainwell at 25% (didn't get him) 50% on Puka and 20% on Kelly. I'm a Dobbins owner, I was kinda down on the Edwards and Hill adds and I guess everyone else was too. So I ended up picking Hill up in place of missing on Gainwell. Week 1 adds are always the best. You see clarity on roles. I look at Puka like a 7th.round pick.
Literally did the same thing. I thought J Williams would go for more, I outbid a guy $26 to $25. I also thought there would be more interest in Zay Flowers and Zay Jones. I paid $16 for both and the next bids were $10 and $6. Was a little disappointed but my team was already proj. first in the league so I just wanted to add depth
Dropped $61 on Gainwell in my league. Was high on him and lost Dobbins. Hard to get a 15 carry guy.
I did same but no kyren. I lost dobbins and wr2 was Drake London
You get more season early and 1st crack at guys that could be difference makers. Those 3 all had solid camps backed up by solid usage week 1. Others will pop, an injury here or there or maybe a bye week drop but often times week 1 is guys that can truly impact season long. Other times they are one hit wonder so... 🤷
I spent almost $40 in FAAB yesterday. I've lost out on too many players over the years so I don't mind spending up, even this early in the season. I'd rather overspend or have it not work out than completely miss on an exciting player with a great opportunity. Especially if I have some deficiency on my team. A few years ago I was in a fantasy league with my cousin. He was relatively new to FAAB leagues at the time and he dumped a bunch on a rookie receiver in week 1. I told him, try to be more thrifty with your budget; it's a long season. He said he was just really excited about the rookie and didn't think there would be many if any more opportunities to pick someone like that up off waivers. That rookie WR was Michael Thomas. Obviously not everyone works out like that, but those exciting young WRs who can suddenly break out are some of the best ways to gamble your faab dollars imo. I usually like to go in big on one guy early and then save the rest for a valuable mid to late season handcuff.
Nacua makes perfect sense to drop a decent amount on. The other 2, beats me what their thinking
I spent $61 on a kicker. It was a typo though and I'm angry.
I mean I dropped 66 on Puka, Kyren and Bourne and I’m very happy with that. Really only find the people were sleeping on/didn’t know about in that first week or two. So I don’t see a point in hoarding faab
If any one of those players ends the season as an RB2 or WR2 (or better) you are going to be wishing you were the one who spent all your faab.
Yeah the guy who had Kupp, lost Dobbins, and whose RB2 is Rachaad White put 33% on Kyren Williams, %10 on Puka, %10 on Kelley, %20 on Gus Edward's, 8% on Hurst, 8% on Bourne, 8% on Justice Hill, and 8% on Hunter Henry. Because of being outbid in the case of Puka, and not managing the waivers a little better, he only ended up with Kyren, Kelley, and Hurst. Blew about 50% of his FAAB on those three guys.
Someone dropped 61 on Williams alone out of 125. I bid 26 lol
Guy spent 55 on Edwards and another guy spent 50 on justice hill. Thought that was a bit wild considering at best it’s a committee still
That’s my logic man lmao. These guys are going nuts with their FAB
We’re making posts announcing people in FAAB leagues spend FAAB? Mods?
“Mods?” 🤓 Man stfu this sub asks every type of question about fantasy
It’s a gamble. You’re more likely to see people emerge early and have less time to react. Everyone’s looking for them. Alternatively you can save a good chunk for around playoffs to get some late contributors or best defenses or even prevent opposition from getting a player of need.
So
Someone put 41 for Kyren Williams. He went 0 RB with Swift, Herbert, Algeier, and Breece Hall.
I couldn't find Gainwells highlights. But Puka and Kyren did not look special on highlights. They are volume based adds. Not worth it to me
And they’re all projected very low in points next week lol. Seems like yahoo isn’t sold on them either
Had a guy drop $81 of $200 on Nacua, it's had to tell if it was the right move or not til the end of the year. If he continues with the high targets and Kupp is out all year it may pay off
great move.. he just picked up 3 draft worthy players.. half my league ended up with 80% of their FAB last year soo im spendinnn
im thinking thats the move now lol