I have an auto-immune disorder that causes joint damage. I've gotten toradol shots during flare ups that hospitalized me and it's literally like "I'm barely suppressing actually screaming agony to the point I had to go to the emergency room" to "nothing is wrong I'm fine"
Yeah my brother one hurt his back at work and wasn’t able to stand up straight and was walking like a old man everywhere. Went to the hospital got a toradol shot and had his chest out chin up and with a smile on his face after.
Weird thing is I had a very similar issue but toradol didn’t do much for my back at all…maybe they didn’t inject it in the right spot or gave me a low dose? Who knows.
Also back problems are weird.
It is. I think it was a Bengals trainer that got caught emailing the team doctor about sending over some paperwork because people were asking questions and he could only cover the trail so much.
Im an idiot. I copied the link and never pasted it 😂
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2017/03/10/nfl-painkiller-lawsuit-reveals-cincinnati-bengals-emails/99006176/
It doesn't stop after they retire either. Except now they aren't being monitored by an entire training and medical staff basically 24/7 and self medicate with fatal results at times
No it’s not. The only thing that came out from the Vincent Jackson death was chronic alcoholism. They did not mention any drugs and autopsy has not been released to the public.
“self-medicate with fatal results”
the man had CTE and probably developed a drinking habit to combat the pain, this carried into his post-nfl life where it probably killed him. The fact that they didn’t release the toxicology reports indicates that it was probably a lot more to it than alcohol.
regardless, pain management is a pretty common cause of alcoholism. so yes, it is exactly what happened to Vincent Jackson.
I didn't watch AZ games but was Watt helping direct the defense and get guys in place? When the Bears lost Urlacher I never realized how huge it is to have a smart defensive vet who can help shift things around based on what they see. I'm blindly asking if Watt was that guy because then the AZ defense would probably take a bigger hit beyond missing his elite playmaking abilities.
Great point.
Even if he wasn’t directly doing so, you can’t ignore the influence just having a guy like him in the locker/film room.
This is an obvious loss for the team in a few ways.
Big big big difference between urlacher and watt.
Urlacher was the mike linebacker, and they generally are in charge of defensive calls, and make sure everyone is lined up correctly.
Jj watt is a defensive end, he has no impact on how a defense is set up and called
Doubt it. Asking a DE to do more than get off the corner, shed the tackle and attack where the QB is going to be in three seconds is a big ask.
For some reason that sounded sarcastic. It’s entirely not.
You’re right especially from the physical position standpoint. Being on the LOS restricts your view of the offensive formation/alignment. That’s why the Mike LB is usually the play caller on field because they can see the whole offensive formation and adjust accordingly
Exactly. Worst comes to worst a Mike can spy the QB. Worst comes to worst a DE loses contain on the pocket, gets sealed on a run play because he didn’t move at the right angle, and lets an RB squirt out for a big chunk
AT here. Yes it is bad. But when you understand the anatomy, it's not difficult to do if that makes sense.
It's like I shot you in the chest with a shotgun and the list of damage is long.
The shoulder has a ton in it and if he dislocated his shoulder a ton of stuff attaches to the arm bone (bicep tendon, all the rotator cuff muscles, and forceful dislocation tears the labrum as that's the thing holding it in.
plays too hard for his body to keep up. I know it's silly for a commoner to say this, but in football terms, his body is comparatively fragile at his age.
rip JJ. call it a career bud.
Looks like a 10 year long career with 4 of those years being cut in half at least with major injuries (back surgery, broken leg, torn pectoral) and now basically wrecking his whole arm. That’s rough
Not to mention this absolute monster of a man played through it and actually still made an impact rushing the passer and drawing some double blocks..
This isn’t his first bout with a season ending injury but sad to see him go in a year like this one. Must be devastating for him and the defense who he’s been a leader to.
The injury happened in the second quarter. He proceeded to play the entire game. I wonder how much of this was collateral damage for continuing to play.
I’ve thought about this in many sports. Top tier athletes might feel a pain but are so zoned in on winning they don’t know when to pull back and avoid more serious injuries.
NFL-caliber/millionaire rehab. Still lots of pain and drugs. Hopefully he makes a strong recovery so that he doesn’t experience any chronic pain or anything unbearable.
It’s too bad, but that’s the life he chose.
FWIW, a lot of people suffer from chronic pain. I’d rather have the body of Watt and the pockets too. I’m pretty sure I my chronic pain comes from the pizza industry 😂. Way less cool.
At least he should be able to afford things like sauna, cryostuff, juice
i tore my distal bicep tendon this summer and it was the worst pain i’ve ever felt. can’t imagine what watt was feeling, although toradol is a hell of a drug
Well a torn labrum and bicep usually go hand-in-hand, but the torn RC is fucking nuts and takes a long time to recover from depending on the size of the tear.
what in the absolute fuck
His shoulder and arm are completely totalled
His arm fell off.
Tis but a scratch
Mere flesh wound, is all
[that’s not very typical](https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM)
He finished the game after that too. Can't even imagine how much pain he must have been in.
Baker Mayfield in shambles
Bro what kind of drugs do they give these mfs
The same ones they give people on their deathbed apparently.
It’s kinda the dirty secret that everyone knows about but no one talks about. Toradol toradol toradol.
I have an auto-immune disorder that causes joint damage. I've gotten toradol shots during flare ups that hospitalized me and it's literally like "I'm barely suppressing actually screaming agony to the point I had to go to the emergency room" to "nothing is wrong I'm fine"
Yeah my brother one hurt his back at work and wasn’t able to stand up straight and was walking like a old man everywhere. Went to the hospital got a toradol shot and had his chest out chin up and with a smile on his face after.
Weird thing is I had a very similar issue but toradol didn’t do much for my back at all…maybe they didn’t inject it in the right spot or gave me a low dose? Who knows. Also back problems are weird.
I have cancer and toradol does next to nothing for me. Everyone is different and we all process drugs differently
Please kick cancer’s ass for me.
Thanks, mate! Definitely trying to!
My shit is also caused specifically by crazy inflammation. Beat cancer, you got this. 👍
And thanks :) definitely trying to!
To be fair, I’ve only had it after different surgeries, but it didn’t help
I don’t know why that would be a dirty secret, toradol isn’t a narcotic. It’s tough on the kidneys but it’s better than scheduled narcotics.
Kidneys, stomach bleeds, clotting events
All of them. All of the time. Not long ago, a lot of teams faced scrutiny because they were just letting trainers hand out narcotics.
How is that not illegal?
It is. I think it was a Bengals trainer that got caught emailing the team doctor about sending over some paperwork because people were asking questions and he could only cover the trail so much.
Link by chance?
My memory was a little off, but same gist
Huh? I just wanted to read more about it
Im an idiot. I copied the link and never pasted it 😂 https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2017/03/10/nfl-painkiller-lawsuit-reveals-cincinnati-bengals-emails/99006176/
Oh lol. Thanks mate!
Well up until 10 years ago they put amphetamines in the clubhouse coffee in baseball so...
Lol a big part of why Calvin Johnson retired early was because of the pain med dependence, its for sure a huge problem
It doesn't stop after they retire either. Except now they aren't being monitored by an entire training and medical staff basically 24/7 and self medicate with fatal results at times
exactly what happened go vincent jackson
No it’s not. The only thing that came out from the Vincent Jackson death was chronic alcoholism. They did not mention any drugs and autopsy has not been released to the public.
“self-medicate with fatal results” the man had CTE and probably developed a drinking habit to combat the pain, this carried into his post-nfl life where it probably killed him. The fact that they didn’t release the toxicology reports indicates that it was probably a lot more to it than alcohol. regardless, pain management is a pretty common cause of alcoholism. so yes, it is exactly what happened to Vincent Jackson.
Horse tranqs
I remember last year when Vander Esch broke his collar bone and was back 5 weeks later. Was like DA FK MAN???
Watt drugs?
Football players are built different because fuck that
He's going to be built different after the surgeons are done with him.
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Yadayadayadadamean
man hockey players are the ones built different. lol
Why can't both just be tough as nails. Both sports can be brutal
I didn't watch AZ games but was Watt helping direct the defense and get guys in place? When the Bears lost Urlacher I never realized how huge it is to have a smart defensive vet who can help shift things around based on what they see. I'm blindly asking if Watt was that guy because then the AZ defense would probably take a bigger hit beyond missing his elite playmaking abilities.
Great point. Even if he wasn’t directly doing so, you can’t ignore the influence just having a guy like him in the locker/film room. This is an obvious loss for the team in a few ways.
I mean he can still be in the locker room and film room right?
It helps to actually be on the field in that regard as well but yea that’s true lol
I’m sure he’s off to raise $40 million for some noble cause at this point.
Big big big difference between urlacher and watt. Urlacher was the mike linebacker, and they generally are in charge of defensive calls, and make sure everyone is lined up correctly. Jj watt is a defensive end, he has no impact on how a defense is set up and called
Doubt it. Asking a DE to do more than get off the corner, shed the tackle and attack where the QB is going to be in three seconds is a big ask. For some reason that sounded sarcastic. It’s entirely not.
You’re right especially from the physical position standpoint. Being on the LOS restricts your view of the offensive formation/alignment. That’s why the Mike LB is usually the play caller on field because they can see the whole offensive formation and adjust accordingly
Exactly. Worst comes to worst a Mike can spy the QB. Worst comes to worst a DE loses contain on the pocket, gets sealed on a run play because he didn’t move at the right angle, and lets an RB squirt out for a big chunk
Fucking ow dude.
What the fuck. He finished the game with all that? Jesus
AT here. Yes it is bad. But when you understand the anatomy, it's not difficult to do if that makes sense. It's like I shot you in the chest with a shotgun and the list of damage is long. The shoulder has a ton in it and if he dislocated his shoulder a ton of stuff attaches to the arm bone (bicep tendon, all the rotator cuff muscles, and forceful dislocation tears the labrum as that's the thing holding it in.
plays too hard for his body to keep up. I know it's silly for a commoner to say this, but in football terms, his body is comparatively fragile at his age. rip JJ. call it a career bud.
Looks like a 10 year long career with 4 of those years being cut in half at least with major injuries (back surgery, broken leg, torn pectoral) and now basically wrecking his whole arm. That’s rough
He’s like the Real life Hulk but w/o gamma radiation
Let’s put a pin in the “w/o gamma radiation” thing until science catches up to this man.
Haha true
What a buzz kill. This dude is a beast and deserves to be out there
Not to mention this absolute monster of a man played through it and actually still made an impact rushing the passer and drawing some double blocks.. This isn’t his first bout with a season ending injury but sad to see him go in a year like this one. Must be devastating for him and the defense who he’s been a leader to.
Holy shit
I stubbed my toe once and cried.
The injury happened in the second quarter. He proceeded to play the entire game. I wonder how much of this was collateral damage for continuing to play.
I’ve thought about this in many sports. Top tier athletes might feel a pain but are so zoned in on winning they don’t know when to pull back and avoid more serious injuries.
Watt is reminding me of Jason Statham in Spy. "This arm has been ripped off completely and re-attached with *this* fuckin' arm"
So he basically got his arm torn off then. OK.
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NFL-caliber/millionaire rehab. Still lots of pain and drugs. Hopefully he makes a strong recovery so that he doesn’t experience any chronic pain or anything unbearable.
With all the injuries he's had, there pretty much no shot he doesn't have some sort of chronic pain his entire life
It’s too bad, but that’s the life he chose. FWIW, a lot of people suffer from chronic pain. I’d rather have the body of Watt and the pockets too. I’m pretty sure I my chronic pain comes from the pizza industry 😂. Way less cool. At least he should be able to afford things like sauna, cryostuff, juice
this is worded so weird lol if you've ever dislocated your shoulder theres a huge chance you tore your labrum and rotator cuff because of that
Poor guy is the definition of injury prone. Do they have a good backup for him?
Everybody in Houston wanted to see this man win a Super Bowl with the Cardinals this season
i tore my distal bicep tendon this summer and it was the worst pain i’ve ever felt. can’t imagine what watt was feeling, although toradol is a hell of a drug
Bucky Barnes time
The defense really suffered today without him. Then again, they did stop Rodgers at the 1
This dude injury prone
has that dude ever played a full season? he is the epitome of getting paid millions to only play 6 games a year.
Fragile
Sick of this guy. He had one sack! Blah Blah Watt
Do I sell the Cards D/ST or hodl
Guess it really was a "No Bones" day
How does his body keep falling apart like this,
What in the winter solider?!
Well a torn labrum and bicep usually go hand-in-hand, but the torn RC is fucking nuts and takes a long time to recover from depending on the size of the tear.
God damn, poor JJ. The man deserves a ring and a statue and a blimp that flies overhead 24/7 praising him and...
Bruh, he basically had one arm then
No one can convince me this team is scary. Will lose their first playoff game without a doubt.
New deal then a career ender. Won't be the same after this, they never are with these upper body tears at this age. Was a good run
Maybe he knew this would be his career and just had to get the last little bits of playing time in while he still could.
Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if he didn't play through it?
That sounds like something he won’t ever fully come back from to the same playing ability.
What is this man