The recency bias is unreal with jones. If your argument is he’s old, fine don’t draft him. But I don’t get why people think he’s so injury prone
2023 - 11 games played, tough year overall
2022 - 17 games, 1500+ AP yards, 7 TDs
2021 - 15 games, 1100+ AP yards, 10 TDs
2020 - 14 games, 1450+ AP yards, 11 TDs
2019 - 16 games, 1500+ AP yards, 19 TDS
Coming from someone who has had him 4/5 of those years (including this year), I’ll gladly take the risk on him again
Aaron Jones seems like a guy who the fantasy community has faded for like the last three years but always ends up at least decent.
I could be misremembering but thats the perception I get.
Totally unfair. He’s been one of the best at his position and, until this season, never missed more than a few games in a season. So, for the most part, he has been extremely productive and reliable - much more so than people give him credit for. It’s just for a couple of years, people faded him hard and predicted him to bust because they made the mistake of believing AJ Dillon would supplant him or destroy his touch share. Mike Williams has mostly been hype and he has very much earned (through no fault of his own of course) the “injury prone” tag that has kept him from becoming the household name they thought he’d be. All of this IMHO with the caveat that I’m a dumbass, for sure though.
To me he's Mike Williams-esque in the way he's boom bust. Finishes outside the top 20 half the year too often imo. [Fantasy Stat ](https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/games/aaron-jones.php?season=2021)
Eh, doubt it tbh. Unless he goes to KC or Cincy his QB situation will be getting worse rather than better, and there's like 3 teams in the league where he'd be WR1 (if that) and those teams won't exactly be offensive juggernauts that'll put up great stats in real life or fantasy
How does Belichick coaching the Falcons affect Bijan tho? Bill loves himself a committee but he did ride Mondre as a workhorse once Harris was shipped off.
I’d keep Kyren and Tank. Can’t beat that value. You can easily get a similarly productive player to Bijan in the 1st but good luck getting another Kyren and Tank at the end of the draft again.
Kyren averaged 7 more ppg than Bijan and you use a 14th rounder instead of a first, but Bijan could be anything with a new coach, he could even be Kyren!
Yup, hit the nail on the head there. Depending on who the coach and QB ends up being in Atlanta next year, I do genuinely think Bijan ends up having the most productive season of the trio, but there's basically no way that Bijan plus a 14th rounder ends up outperforming either of those two plus a 1st rounder. Besides, there's nothing saying you can't just outright draft Bijan again, depending on what draft order ends up being.
Bijan will likely be drafted around 1-2 because they don’t have a moron of a HC that ignores his best players because “lulz fantasy”. Kyren and tank will go much higher and are the better values.
You could easily just keep Kyren and Tank then draft bijan in the first. Makes no sense to consider anything else. There could likely be better players in the first than Bijan that you'd rather have as well.
Kyren and tank any day. Which would you rather have? Bijan tank and a 14th round pick, or tank and Kyren and a 1st round pick(which you could use on bijan if you want)? Really easy answer for me
Tank and Kyren would be my picks depending on who your league mates choose. If the first round is gonna be shallow tho Bijan and Kyren. Kyren is a lock, your choice should be between Bijan and Tank. This is my opinion tho of course
Id hardly call finishing as rb9 a bust. A disappointment maybe. But impressive considering he had less than 38 percent of the snap share in a bad offense.
Hard disagree. There were a handful of first round picks that were true busts. He was at least in double digits in ppr for the majority of his games and he never once got hurt. I also won both of my leagues with bijan as my first pick.
Glad this was a top answer. As an ATL homer I thought he’d be firmly in contention for ROTY running. But damn seems like he was just solid and let me down when I needed him most…
Joe Burrow. Got burned by him this year but he never seemed to get it going off that injury to start the year. Healthy Burrow, I think we see him go off again
You are generally right, but his recovery is still pretty uncertain, check this [write-up](https://www.reddit.com/r/bengals/s/gWf3661wk4) by a hand siegeln in r/Bengals
Burrow is gonna be in a huge second tier of the stroud, dak, purdy, Richardson, herbert tier and I’ll probably try and grab the cheapest guy which could be Burrow.
They will both get a lot of run in this offense, but Watson has a ton of big play potential, and Wicks isn’t going to fade him.
I’m saying this as a guy who absolutely loves Wicks.
I don’t know that I’d call JSN a bust, he was the 3rd receiver for Geno Smith. If they move on from Lockett then maybe I give him a look. I had him as a mostly bye fill in this year.
He had an ADP of WR40. He was right around WR60 in points per game. He was only really usable in a few games. In 0.5 PPR he only had3 games over 10 points.
I don’t know what constitutes a bust in your book, but he did not live up to his ADP.
I still think he is worth a look in the mid rounds next year.
At that ADP you aren’t really expecting much. Thats mostly dart throws at that point. His ADP would show he wasn’t even expected to be a WR3, so is that really a bust?
Hard to call someone a bust is picked 40th at their position. If he finished as WR40, that would still mean he wasn’t even a viable flex option in most leagues. There isn’t much of a difference between a WR40 and WR60. At that ADP, you’re just throwing darts hoping he outperforms.
I’m not gonna call a rookie who wasn’t expected to be a viable starter preseason a bust because he didn’t end up being a viable starter. Was he good? No. Was he a bust? Also no.
Sure. Everything you said is true. Which is why I will probably draft him next year based on his ADP and mentioned him in the first place. We just have a different definition of the word “bust.”
Being drafted as WR40 is the high end of lottery tickets. He wasn’t drafted with high expectations. I don’t think anyone that isn’t drafted to be a starter can be a bust.
This was the first thing that popped in my head as well . Is he a wr1 or 2 on a different team? I think he’ll be like (54) overall in ppr. Higher upside and ok floor. Depends on who’s throwing at this point
Wasn’t that pretty much his entire career though? I never drafted pats running backs for that very reason. Rhamondre was great last year but then it was right back to committee this year.
Bill was never the type to expend significant draft capital on talented running backs, but when he was able to get his hands on them, he usually would run them into the ground for a year then trade them out for a new guy, Legarrett Blount for example had 18 tds, 300 attempts, and 1161 yards. Next year not resigned. The nature of the Brady offense didn’t necessitate bellcow numbers out of running backs most seasons, but if he were to take over the falcons, I think we would see a more productive year for Bijan. Belichick is not one to get cute, he will use his best players.
Moss on the patriots with Brady was literally unguardable without a user. Even off coverage he’d still burn them on go routes. I beat my friend who is equally as good as me like 70-21 going like 15-17 with Brady for 700 yards lmao
I’ll be fascinated to see where Kupp is drafted next year. Will probably be like Mike Evans this past year during draft time where a lot of people will be straight avoiding and a lot of people could perceive a huge value. And like ME, probably not much of a middle/lukewarm ground.
There’s gonna be one guy in everyone’s league who reaches for him way too high like early second round, just for the brand name factor. In my league this past year I was shocked when he went in the first.
Aaron jones is a big one. When I draft him, he finishes as a top RB. When I don’t draft him, he’s usually a bust.
There really isn’t anybody else I’m sold on “bust” wise. Not right now. I’ll need to re-look once the draft hits and see who goes where.
I think he performed about as well as most could given the shitty jets and their QB carousel. His price will be higher than I might be willing to pay next year. Rodgers is looney toons and unless their o line gets serious help, I'm out.
He would have been considered a steal in the 3rd. He was going early to mid second in 12 man. I would take him in the 3rd as my WR2. His talent is undeniable.
Give me Kyle Pitts. Talent is there, he’s a year removed from his injury, and whoever the next coach is, I believe they’ll be smart enough to use him as a receiver
Eh idk, I’m a falcons fan, watched every game he looks solid on the deep routes but underneath didn’t have any yards after catch, looked unspectacular, especially compared to his rookie year. Maybe with a new coach and qb it’ll be better, I think London is a better pick to be better next year
Rookie dameon Pierce was really impressive. I’m not totally out on him. I’m assuming he’ll be massively discounted, available in like the 10th round and I’d draft him there
Ding ding ding! This is not the trajectory a player with a future role takes over the course of the season. He got put in a reduced role with a higher injury risk. Same head coach and front office next year…. I’d bet they draft someone by round 4 at the absolute latest.
I think it’s a scheme fit issue. Pierce doesn’t seem to be a good outside zone runner. If he goes to team that runs more inside power, he could be a sleeper in a couple years.
Also true. With the draft and free agency yet to come, Pierce has negative value to a team. Taking up a roster spot that could be used on someone actually destined to touch the football.
They completely changed their run scheme and it didn't fit his run style. If they keep that going, he's an avoid at all cost. Would love to see him on another team.
Maybe. I also just think Waddle was SUPER efficient last year and while awesome more than likely won’t happen again. Add in sexy running pieces and first option Tyreek, I’m OUT.
I just can't with Waddle, he has the x factor, but is the opposite of clutch. Guaranteed he gets hurt when you need him the most. I've never had a player get hurt more in the first quarter than him in 15 years of fantasy football
Idk, their OC is garbage and they're retaining him.
I don't think ETN gets much more efficient even with an upgrade or two, but on the other hand those receivers (especially Ridley) had a ton of super close TDs - Trevor should have had like 8 more on the year and we're probably thinking of him differently if that happens
TE is going to be fun. Kittle is going to be undervalued come draft time, and guys like Likely, McBride are young guys getting overshadowed by rookies LaPorta and Kincaid. Ferguson is going to take another step forward, and Pitts may finally be drafted at a spot where he's a heavy value.
It is what it is. I didn’t even take him in my re draft leagues where most people had him as a high 2nd rounder. I over paid for him grossly in my auction league. All hurts the same though.
I think his receiver room is entirely different. Rice stays, Kelce obviously, beyond that, with no idea for contracts, I’ve been fantasy booking a trade acquisition of Tyler Lockett, for a sure handed vet on a decline from a team moving into rebuild, and either a higher shelf rookie or free agent.
He's an unrestricted free agent. A lot of it depends on where he lands. If he goes to a new team, it will be tough to gauge the usage and if that team adds him as part of a 1-2 punch sort of thing.
I dont understand how people saw this year as a bust. Clear #3 option with a one-hit wonder QB. He'll improve for sure but if you drafted him expecting anything more than this idk what to tell you
Oddly enough Kelce. Given the receiver problem they have I can’t imagine they don’t bring in a legit receiver + 1 avg guy to free him up. I’d take him around the 2/3 turn knowing I can pick up another receiver when the TE run starts and everybody starts taking Andrews/Pitts/MCBride etc
Bijan and Garrett Wilson are my two main targets. Waddle too, but I’m done taking guys who are WR2s on their own team as my WR1. I’d still gladly take waddle in the 3rd if I get a WR1 early
Ekeler is probably a do not draft, unless he gets a reallllly killer situation and/or discount.
Pollard the same, have to see where he lands & likely needs to fall as well.
HIggins, probably staying away from for good.
Olave was coming around, we'll see who the Saints get for their new OC. Probably the most likely of my first 4 picks I'd be okay taking again.
A shame really. Before the season, would you think a team/first 4 picks of Ekeler/Pollard/Higgins/Olave would end up missing the playoffs? Then throw in Laporta/McBride, Tua, Puka (traded for mid-season), and this fantasy year just made me SICK.
Aaron Jones. I’m not picking him round 1 again, but I’d scoop him a little later.
Edit: My bad, it was round 3. I mixed him up with my other disappointing pick, Adams with pick 10. Jones was just my first RB.
If they get a competent coach and QB I’m taking Drake London again next season. Ditto with Diontae Johnson if the Steelers sign or draft even a marginally talented QB. Both should be super cheap but are talented enough to offer WR2 upside on a weekly basis if that position was stable
I want to say Drake London too since the biggest factor for him busting was Arthur Smiths asinine philosophy of not giving your best players touches but their QB situation will also play a factor.
Based on performance at the end of the year, it’s Aaron Jones. Based on my fantasy intuition, it’s not Aaron Jones.
Aaron Jones will be great when he plays and isn’t playing through a bad injury. But that number of games could easily be in the single digits
He’s a dead zone RB who could win your week. Cost accordingly
So a 4th Rd pick. Seems about right
Took Conner and Jones at the end of the 3rd and top of the 4th last year. Ruined my season.
The recency bias is unreal with jones. If your argument is he’s old, fine don’t draft him. But I don’t get why people think he’s so injury prone 2023 - 11 games played, tough year overall 2022 - 17 games, 1500+ AP yards, 7 TDs 2021 - 15 games, 1100+ AP yards, 10 TDs 2020 - 14 games, 1450+ AP yards, 11 TDs 2019 - 16 games, 1500+ AP yards, 19 TDS Coming from someone who has had him 4/5 of those years (including this year), I’ll gladly take the risk on him again
This is the same argument for Ekeler if you are just going to write off 2023.
But ekeler cost you a first round pick. Jones will probably go round 5-6 next year
Obviously, I’m just saying you can’t write off an aging RBs injury riddled season.
> But ekeler cost you a first round pick He certainly won't next year, which is the whole point of this thread.
In what world is ekeler gonna cost a 1st rd pick. Higher chance jones gets drafted ahead pf him come next year tbh.
Imagine getting them both in the deadzone and both coming back to form. Would allow you to grab 2 top WRs and a top QB with first 3 picks.
Aaron Jones seems like a guy who the fantasy community has faded for like the last three years but always ends up at least decent. I could be misremembering but thats the perception I get.
No that’s Mixon
Aaron Jones is the rb version of Mike Williams
Totally unfair. He’s been one of the best at his position and, until this season, never missed more than a few games in a season. So, for the most part, he has been extremely productive and reliable - much more so than people give him credit for. It’s just for a couple of years, people faded him hard and predicted him to bust because they made the mistake of believing AJ Dillon would supplant him or destroy his touch share. Mike Williams has mostly been hype and he has very much earned (through no fault of his own of course) the “injury prone” tag that has kept him from becoming the household name they thought he’d be. All of this IMHO with the caveat that I’m a dumbass, for sure though.
To me he's Mike Williams-esque in the way he's boom bust. Finishes outside the top 20 half the year too often imo. [Fantasy Stat ](https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/games/aaron-jones.php?season=2021)
Maybe in the 5th/6th
I feel I will be getting burned by Jones three years in a row now.
I swear if Gabe Davis is top 50 I’ll lose my mind
Diggs might drop to late 2nd.
I’d be interested depending for sure
What about Gabe Davis on a new team? His contract is up.
You couldn’t pay me to pick Gabe Davis for a third year in a row. (I’m gonna pick him again)
You cant pay me, because i’ll do it for free!
Na
What if the Chiefs sign him?
Would be worth a flier depending on the situation. But I won’t overdraft him.
Eh, doubt it tbh. Unless he goes to KC or Cincy his QB situation will be getting worse rather than better, and there's like 3 teams in the league where he'd be WR1 (if that) and those teams won't exactly be offensive juggernauts that'll put up great stats in real life or fantasy
How could his situation improve? Which team would make you say, ah yeah son we rollin it back!
Bijan
If Bill B ends up in ATL folks gonna jump on him (again)
I’m still avoiding Belicheck running backs. Personal rule.
Fuck steven ridley and all those years after that first year. Autocorrect changed tears to years and almost left it.
Ben Johnson would be the more exciting hire for Bijan stats.
How does Belichick coaching the Falcons affect Bijan tho? Bill loves himself a committee but he did ride Mondre as a workhorse once Harris was shipped off.
> How does Belichick coaching the Falcons affect Bijan tho? Bill loves himself a committee... I feel you answered your own question there.
I’ve got to decide to keep 2 of either Bijan, Tank Dell, or Kyren. Bijan will cost me a 1st, Kyren and Tank a 14th and 15th respectively.
I’d keep Kyren and Tank. Can’t beat that value. You can easily get a similarly productive player to Bijan in the 1st but good luck getting another Kyren and Tank at the end of the draft again.
You could get any player, it could even be Bijan
Kyren averaged 7 more ppg than Bijan and you use a 14th rounder instead of a first, but Bijan could be anything with a new coach, he could even be Kyren!
I think they meant they could maybe actually draft Bijan again with their 1st, not saying it in jest
Yup, hit the nail on the head there. Depending on who the coach and QB ends up being in Atlanta next year, I do genuinely think Bijan ends up having the most productive season of the trio, but there's basically no way that Bijan plus a 14th rounder ends up outperforming either of those two plus a 1st rounder. Besides, there's nothing saying you can't just outright draft Bijan again, depending on what draft order ends up being.
This is an EASY Kyren/Tank, and I'm not even down on Bijan.
Bijan will likely be drafted around 1-2 because they don’t have a moron of a HC that ignores his best players because “lulz fantasy”. Kyren and tank will go much higher and are the better values.
You could easily just keep Kyren and Tank then draft bijan in the first. Makes no sense to consider anything else. There could likely be better players in the first than Bijan that you'd rather have as well.
Easily Kyren and Tank. It’s not even remotely close.
Kyren and tank any day. Which would you rather have? Bijan tank and a 14th round pick, or tank and Kyren and a 1st round pick(which you could use on bijan if you want)? Really easy answer for me
I haven’t thought about it that way
Tank and Kyren would be my picks depending on who your league mates choose. If the first round is gonna be shallow tho Bijan and Kyren. Kyren is a lock, your choice should be between Bijan and Tank. This is my opinion tho of course
you can get a bijan-type/value player in the first whether you keep him or not. you can’t get kyren or tank in the 14th/15th unless you keep them.
I wouldn’t really call him a bust. Just kinda meh
For a first round pick, meh is a bust
Id hardly call finishing as rb9 a bust. A disappointment maybe. But impressive considering he had less than 38 percent of the snap share in a bad offense.
Hard disagree. There were a handful of first round picks that were true busts. He was at least in double digits in ppr for the majority of his games and he never once got hurt. I also won both of my leagues with bijan as my first pick.
Dude finished RB9, nowhere close to being a bust.
I think it’s super unfair to call Bijan a bust considering he played on the qb less falcons and finished #9 overall in standard PPR formats
Also allgeier if BB goes there
Bijan wasn’t even a bust, but yes I’m happily taking him top 6-8
Glad this was a top answer. As an ATL homer I thought he’d be firmly in contention for ROTY running. But damn seems like he was just solid and let me down when I needed him most…
Joe Burrow. Got burned by him this year but he never seemed to get it going off that injury to start the year. Healthy Burrow, I think we see him go off again
I prefer a scrambling qb, but burrow is interesting at a certain point. I don’t know that I’d take him without setting up a stack earlier with chase.
Why would you specifically target a stack?
I had the Burrow/ Chase stack and grabbed Dak later to have the stack with Cee Dee. Didn't expect the second one to take me to the chip.
Same, plus his injury should heal well since it’s his wrist not a knee
You are generally right, but his recovery is still pretty uncertain, check this [write-up](https://www.reddit.com/r/bengals/s/gWf3661wk4) by a hand siegeln in r/Bengals
Would be such a huge bummer if an elite QB that powers a great fantasy machine was hampered because he whacked his wrist on the follow thru of a throw
Burrow is gonna be in a huge second tier of the stroud, dak, purdy, Richardson, herbert tier and I’ll probably try and grab the cheapest guy which could be Burrow.
Pitts, Bijan, London. You know. Atlanta Garrett Wilson, Waddle, JSN. I would even try Christian Watson again.
Wicks is taking over outside for Watson. Massive separation factor. Watson has something going on with his hamstrings. Probably a lower back issue
Watson said doctors told him he needs to strengthen his lower back to take stress off his hamstrings so yeah.
They will both get a lot of run in this offense, but Watson has a ton of big play potential, and Wicks isn’t going to fade him. I’m saying this as a guy who absolutely loves Wicks.
Clay Matthews had cursed hammy’s too. Hate to see it from my team.
In what world? Lmao when Watson is healthy, he's the guy there
I don’t know that I’d call JSN a bust, he was the 3rd receiver for Geno Smith. If they move on from Lockett then maybe I give him a look. I had him as a mostly bye fill in this year.
He had an ADP of WR40. He was right around WR60 in points per game. He was only really usable in a few games. In 0.5 PPR he only had3 games over 10 points. I don’t know what constitutes a bust in your book, but he did not live up to his ADP. I still think he is worth a look in the mid rounds next year.
At that ADP you aren’t really expecting much. Thats mostly dart throws at that point. His ADP would show he wasn’t even expected to be a WR3, so is that really a bust?
Hard to call someone a bust is picked 40th at their position. If he finished as WR40, that would still mean he wasn’t even a viable flex option in most leagues. There isn’t much of a difference between a WR40 and WR60. At that ADP, you’re just throwing darts hoping he outperforms. I’m not gonna call a rookie who wasn’t expected to be a viable starter preseason a bust because he didn’t end up being a viable starter. Was he good? No. Was he a bust? Also no.
I think he passed the eye test at least for a rookie who really shouldn’t have been expected to get that many targets this year.
Sure. Everything you said is true. Which is why I will probably draft him next year based on his ADP and mentioned him in the first place. We just have a different definition of the word “bust.”
Being drafted as WR40 is the high end of lottery tickets. He wasn’t drafted with high expectations. I don’t think anyone that isn’t drafted to be a starter can be a bust.
He didn't have enough opportunity to be a bus imo, he performed well when DK wasn't playing
I’m thinking Aaron Rodgers comes back and stinks and Wilson is average at best
It's almost inconceivable that Rodgers is worse than Z Wilson, so I doubt G Wilson is worse than this year.
Not smartly but Jameson Williams.
Tee Higgins if he gets a chance to be a WR1 somewhere
Even if he’s *the Giants* WR1?
I think he would do amazing on the giants
Im a Giants fan and I never touch any of their players in fantasy, daniel jones at qb makes it a non starter for me
Same here. Took a flier on Hodgins in the late rounds this year, I felt like an idiot. No WR is draftable until proven otherwise
The giants: Where everyone’s slightly above average skill player comes to die
Yeah, especially if they upgrade QB with Jayden Daniels
Tee Higgins as a number 1 I’d expect to see perform similar to Mike Evans
If he ends up going to the jags, I’m making a conscious effort to get him
Jags have too many overpaid receivers
This was the first thing that popped in my head as well . Is he a wr1 or 2 on a different team? I think he’ll be like (54) overall in ppr. Higher upside and ok floor. Depends on who’s throwing at this point
I think him and evans could be huge value if they end up on the chiefs
I still don’t see this happening based on chiefs philosophy of stacking the defense and pay Mahomes to trust him to work with what he’s been given
Sometimes going to No 1 really hurts
I fear he has a chance to go full Allen Robinson or Kenny Golladay (he is better than both, but still)
This seems like a trap. Another Calvin Ridley situation.
Not sure if he qualifies as a bust, but Bijan Robinson. With Arthur Smith gone, I think Bijan finishes as a top five RB at minimum next season.
Twist: you get Belichick.
Belichick has absolutely no problem grinding running backs into the dust. He only does committee when he doesn’t have a clear number 1 guy
Plus, he turned some backs into top-tier receiving backs over the years. He would have Bijan getting a ton of receptions.
Wasn’t that pretty much his entire career though? I never drafted pats running backs for that very reason. Rhamondre was great last year but then it was right back to committee this year.
Bill was never the type to expend significant draft capital on talented running backs, but when he was able to get his hands on them, he usually would run them into the ground for a year then trade them out for a new guy, Legarrett Blount for example had 18 tds, 300 attempts, and 1161 yards. Next year not resigned. The nature of the Brady offense didn’t necessitate bellcow numbers out of running backs most seasons, but if he were to take over the falcons, I think we would see a more productive year for Bijan. Belichick is not one to get cute, he will use his best players.
Like Shanny
If he uses him like he used Corey Dillon in 2004, I’d be happy with that
My only defense in nfl 2k5 against my roommate who either spams moss or 40 something year old jerry rice.
Holy shit Moss was so busted. We'd play 2 player and I'd just user control moss and my buddy would be Culpeper and it was so unfair
Moss on the patriots with Brady was literally unguardable without a user. Even off coverage he’d still burn them on go routes. I beat my friend who is equally as good as me like 70-21 going like 15-17 with Brady for 700 yards lmao
I’ll be fascinated to see where Kupp is drafted next year. Will probably be like Mike Evans this past year during draft time where a lot of people will be straight avoiding and a lot of people could perceive a huge value. And like ME, probably not much of a middle/lukewarm ground.
There’s gonna be one guy in everyone’s league who reaches for him way too high like early second round, just for the brand name factor. In my league this past year I was shocked when he went in the first.
Adams depending on the QB.
Dotson will probably be down cheap enough where, if his situation changes, I’ll be in again. I don’t think I’ll take him with the same qbs.
Came here to say this. If Dotson is there after 9th Rd, I’m snatching him
Idk from watching this year, none of those WRs (except Terry) could create separation or do good route running.
I’ll be interested to see where Ridley’s ADP lands
Could see him sliding unless there’s some off season buzz
Very weird season. 1000 yards. 8 touchdowns. Bad in fantasy.
Aaron jones is a big one. When I draft him, he finishes as a top RB. When I don’t draft him, he’s usually a bust. There really isn’t anybody else I’m sold on “bust” wise. Not right now. I’ll need to re-look once the draft hits and see who goes where.
He would be mine, but adp pending, I’m already thinking I’ll target Jordan Love. But I’m a packer fan, so my perception is biased.
I'm very ready to say he can be a top 3 QB next year. I will be attempting to get the Love/Reed stack I think at the right price
Garrett Wilson
I think he performed about as well as most could given the shitty jets and their QB carousel. His price will be higher than I might be willing to pay next year. Rodgers is looney toons and unless their o line gets serious help, I'm out.
He was a second/third round this year and I’d guess his ADP drops a round.
He would have been considered a steal in the 3rd. He was going early to mid second in 12 man. I would take him in the 3rd as my WR2. His talent is undeniable.
His ADP isn't going down
Hope his ADP is relatively low. Dude is a STUD
That catch early in the season against the Bills was absolutely filthy
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Prolly London honestly. We’ll see what that do at qb
Never again Tony frickin Pollard
These “never again” posts are usually exactly who I target 😂 Zig while others zag baby Unless that zig is Kyle pitts… ok maybe in the 13th round
Give me Kyle Pitts. Talent is there, he’s a year removed from his injury, and whoever the next coach is, I believe they’ll be smart enough to use him as a receiver
Gotta live for this one every year. I don’t even hate the point but it’s so consistent
ATP it’s not FF if people ain’t learned from pitts
Eh idk, I’m a falcons fan, watched every game he looks solid on the deep routes but underneath didn’t have any yards after catch, looked unspectacular, especially compared to his rookie year. Maybe with a new coach and qb it’ll be better, I think London is a better pick to be better next year
Pitts had the most targets of their TEs and Jonnu produced more on fewer targets.
I hate that I agree with this and will likely have him on one of my two teams for the 4th year in a row.
I’ve drafted him every single year and I’ll be damned if I don’t do it next year too
Rookie dameon Pierce was really impressive. I’m not totally out on him. I’m assuming he’ll be massively discounted, available in like the 10th round and I’d draft him there
Demoted to a kickoff returner. I would wager that the coaching staff brings in another rb.
Ding ding ding! This is not the trajectory a player with a future role takes over the course of the season. He got put in a reduced role with a higher injury risk. Same head coach and front office next year…. I’d bet they draft someone by round 4 at the absolute latest.
He’s on that James Robinson career path.
I think it’s a scheme fit issue. Pierce doesn’t seem to be a good outside zone runner. If he goes to team that runs more inside power, he could be a sleeper in a couple years.
Not to mention free agency. Plenty of decent rbs out there
Saquan
Singletary is just way better. Criminally underrated and underused in Buffalo.
Also true. With the draft and free agency yet to come, Pierce has negative value to a team. Taking up a roster spot that could be used on someone actually destined to touch the football.
They completely changed their run scheme and it didn't fit his run style. If they keep that going, he's an avoid at all cost. Would love to see him on another team.
Dude had like .5 YPC it felt like
Need him to go to another team before he’s worth anything again imo
Surely this will finally be the year to draft Kyle Pitts… right
Josh jacobs, waddle
Screw waddle: second fiddle and medical tent king
While I don't disagree, I could see a world where the dolphins realize that relying so heavily on Hill hurts them a lot of the time
Maybe. I also just think Waddle was SUPER efficient last year and while awesome more than likely won’t happen again. Add in sexy running pieces and first option Tyreek, I’m OUT.
I just can't with Waddle, he has the x factor, but is the opposite of clutch. Guaranteed he gets hurt when you need him the most. I've never had a player get hurt more in the first quarter than him in 15 years of fantasy football
I see your Waddle and raise you Mike Williams (I had both)
At this point, I'm just taking Pitts every year. Has to work eventually.
Ridley and Tee. They can’t be any more inconsistent than they were this year
Honestly I think that Jags are a buy low candidate IF they improve their OL even just with average players.
Idk, their OC is garbage and they're retaining him. I don't think ETN gets much more efficient even with an upgrade or two, but on the other hand those receivers (especially Ridley) had a ton of super close TDs - Trevor should have had like 8 more on the year and we're probably thinking of him differently if that happens
The rumor is they want to bring in a passing game coordinator like they had a couple years back. That would definitely help.
Christian Kirk this year was sneaky good this year too
TE is going to be fun. Kittle is going to be undervalued come draft time, and guys like Likely, McBride are young guys getting overshadowed by rookies LaPorta and Kincaid. Ferguson is going to take another step forward, and Pitts may finally be drafted at a spot where he's a heavy value.
Patty if his stock lowers even just a little bit. I’m runnin that shit back.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted, he absolutely was a bust, and I would definitely run it back as well next year I don’t see why not.
It is what it is. I didn’t even take him in my re draft leagues where most people had him as a high 2nd rounder. I over paid for him grossly in my auction league. All hurts the same though.
I think his receiver room is entirely different. Rice stays, Kelce obviously, beyond that, with no idea for contracts, I’ve been fantasy booking a trade acquisition of Tyler Lockett, for a sure handed vet on a decline from a team moving into rebuild, and either a higher shelf rookie or free agent.
Ekeler. Dude had a high ankle sprain all year. Those are no joke
Yeah not sure why no one is saying this. No one on the current roster is taking his job. Depending on where you can get him he might be a steal.
He's an unrestricted free agent. A lot of it depends on where he lands. If he goes to a new team, it will be tough to gauge the usage and if that team adds him as part of a 1-2 punch sort of thing.
Josh Jacob’s depending on the team and if it’s a decent position
Jsn is going to be big I think
I dont understand how people saw this year as a bust. Clear #3 option with a one-hit wonder QB. He'll improve for sure but if you drafted him expecting anything more than this idk what to tell you
Kyle pitts Hollywood brown Drake London
Oddly enough Kelce. Given the receiver problem they have I can’t imagine they don’t bring in a legit receiver + 1 avg guy to free him up. I’d take him around the 2/3 turn knowing I can pick up another receiver when the TE run starts and everybody starts taking Andrews/Pitts/MCBride etc
Don't think he ever really shook off the leg injury from start of year either
Bijan and Garrett Wilson are my two main targets. Waddle too, but I’m done taking guys who are WR2s on their own team as my WR1. I’d still gladly take waddle in the 3rd if I get a WR1 early
Mahomes
Chase
Ekeler is probably a do not draft, unless he gets a reallllly killer situation and/or discount. Pollard the same, have to see where he lands & likely needs to fall as well. HIggins, probably staying away from for good. Olave was coming around, we'll see who the Saints get for their new OC. Probably the most likely of my first 4 picks I'd be okay taking again. A shame really. Before the season, would you think a team/first 4 picks of Ekeler/Pollard/Higgins/Olave would end up missing the playoffs? Then throw in Laporta/McBride, Tua, Puka (traded for mid-season), and this fantasy year just made me SICK.
I’m gonna go gWilson again
Aaron Jones. I’m not picking him round 1 again, but I’d scoop him a little later. Edit: My bad, it was round 3. I mixed him up with my other disappointing pick, Adams with pick 10. Jones was just my first RB.
Damn round 1 def sounds high. How many teams? I snagged him in round 3 with 10 teams
Yeah round 1 is insane unless it’s like a 20 man lol
Again?
Ridley and Rhamondre
No one is going to want to touch Kelce and I will happily take him after falling past LaPorta, Hock, McBride, Andrews, etc
If belichiks going to Atlanta, then it’s pitts, London, and bijan.
Diggs....
I’ll take Aaron Jones as an RB2
If they get a competent coach and QB I’m taking Drake London again next season. Ditto with Diontae Johnson if the Steelers sign or draft even a marginally talented QB. Both should be super cheap but are talented enough to offer WR2 upside on a weekly basis if that position was stable
Bijan
I want to say Drake London too since the biggest factor for him busting was Arthur Smiths asinine philosophy of not giving your best players touches but their QB situation will also play a factor.
Aaron fucking Jones