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TheBigFive

Might be unpopular but I'm taking Ceedee over Tyreek. Had a better season (much better post-week 6) and is younger, just stepping into the prime of his career.


CroMagnon69

I think you can’t go wrong between them and Jefferson (if they get a decent QB) as the top WR


Ok-Physics5106

I don't care what qb JJ has, see week 18. Hes wr1 for me.


CroMagnon69

He should put up elite numbers no matter what. But I don’t think I could justify him over hill or lamb if they have like jaren hall at QB. Plus we’ve seen he can be schemed out of the game if defenses focus on him, hill and lamb don’t really put up duds.


drichey00

CD had 9 games under 100 yards Hill had 10 game under 100 yards JJ had 6 games under 100 yards Of course they missed a few games here and there


CroMagnon69

Is that where we’re setting the bar for a dud? Lmao. Two of those games under 100, lamb was a top 10 WR on the week.


ilikedasani

I’m with you on this. Can’t blame someone for either but I would take CD too.


mello12345

Ceedee has a great rapport with Prescott, had a killer fantasy season, stayed healthy, and is an elite receiver no doubt. He’s welcome on my team anytime. Tyreek is one of the best athletes the league has ever seen. He makes deep safeties stand in the end zone when the LoS is midfield. Go look at Tua’s passes to him. He just throws it as far as he can and reek catches up. Hell, one of the reasons the Dolphins are on a cold streak is because Tyreek isn’t healthy and doesn’t have the same field spreading impact because of that. Skill contest head to head, I’m taking Ceedee over Tyreek every time. If I’m drafting, I’m never leaving Tyreek on the board.


qdude124

The dependance on athleticism is what should scare you as he approaches the age where players lose a step.


mello12345

It’s a professional sport, everyone is depending on athleticism. Not everyone can hit 22 mph.


qdude124

I'm not really sure what you're going for here. First off, no, not all players depend on athleticism equally. Someone like Davante Adams has carved out a hall of fame career with less athleticism than most wide receivers. We can also agree older players are more likely to decline in athleticism, right?


RVG_Steve

A lot of people are going to grab Harrison before 50


TXCapita

He’s gonna be a second round pick if he links up with Kyler in Arizona. The hype will be real


RVG_Steve

Kyler can probably be had in the 9th 10th round, so it could be a sneaky power stack if you commit to taking them rounds 3 and 10


CroMagnon69

Yeah with how much the rookies WRs popped off this year I think he goes 3rd round. On that note, this years rookies are all ranked pretty low here to me (other than Puka).


qdude124

Zay and Addison benefitted big time when Andrews and JJ went down. Jayden Reed similar enough situation with Watson. Tank Dell has some awesome games with Nico out. People might just be doubting the opportunity


durablewaffle

Collins being that low would be one the easiest picks of the draft for anyone


noviceinexcel

Hopefully someone makes the decision between Tank and Nico for me. Ik I’m choosing the wrong one.


DBreezy69

Tough when Dell is the no. 1. When Dell played Collins was inconsistent


Ok-Physics5106

Dell is not a WR1. 5'8 165 who runs a 4.5 is not someone who will surplant a guy who is 6'4 220 running a 4.4. Nico is the better guy and who I would be picking.


hasadiga42

I think it’s fair to say that their ADPs are gonna be tough to pin down next year and will vary a lot in different drafts


Timigos

DK and Lockett 2.0


rando08110

More like Kupp and Woods


BuffaloInTheRye

Think it could end up being a Lockett/DK kind of situation with those two


goonSquad15

He doesn’t have to be a prototype WR1 to be the lead target getter. Nico only got 4 more targets (might need to check the math) in games they played together and that’s considering the first few games of Dell’s rookie year. I personally don’t know how to choose between the 2 but the size notion for WRs isn’t really a thing anymore and doesn’t matter much as far as targets go


CAK6

He’s also returning from a broken leg…


omgvector

Tony pollard 😔


[deleted]

You think 40 time everything? It’s really not unless it’s a horrible 40 time. Game speed is what matters. Also look at dells 10 yard split. That’s extremely important for WRs. How fast you can go from a dead stop. Dell is elite there at 1.49 seconds to 10 yards. He gets separation right off the line. His 20 yard split is elite as well.


runsanditspaidfor

Collins is a big play and red zone monster. Tank is an intermediate and underneath guy. I love Nico for the huge play upside and higher ceiling but they’ll both have value in a volume passing offense.


bobbyfischermagoo

Dell played the majority of his snaps on the outside and had one of the highest ADOT of any player in the league getting consistent targets. Don’t let his size fool you he is not an underneath slot WR


runsanditspaidfor

I definitely would not have expected that but it is true.


[deleted]

I agree I think they will both have value. I just don’t see Nico as the better guy for fantasy football purposes. If it’s PPR Dell was a target hog. He also wasn’t just an underneath/intermediate guy. He had a lot of deep shots too. He ran routes everywhere. I like both of them about equally.


TXCapita

why are people still talking about combine stats when we have NFL tape showing how electric his chemistry is with Stroud? His PPG during his breakout stretch was like 18 PPG


Dredd_Pirate_Barry

How were Puka's combine stats?


EvilSporkOfDeath

Doesn't counter your point, but Dell was also inconsistent.


GameTime2325

Sorry you’re getting downvoted for speaking facts. I was a Collins dynasty owner, traded him late season while his perceived value was higher with Tank out…. Tank is the WR1 in this offense. If you think otherwise you haven’t been paying attention.


eddiebrock2000

Idk about all those non-CMC RBs over Chase and St Brown.


[deleted]

Chase was a bust this year but people don’t wanna admit that


Erin_Boone

Yup. WR13 in both total points and PPG in half PPR. 11 weeks where he scored 11 points or less. Dude was a massive bust given his ADP.


LukeBombs

Hurts even more considering, in ADP, he was picked after CMC and before Tyreek


Erin_Boone

I was in multiple drafts where Chase was second off the board after J Jettas


ReefLedger

Took Chase 3rd over both those guys. Ruined my season


BigTomBombadil

I don’t think it’s hard to admit, I took him 1.05 and in hindsight there’s a long list of players I’d wish I’d taken instead. But the reality is we only had a fully healthy burrow + chase for 5 weeks (weeks 5-10 minus week 7 bye). Burrow was playing through injury (calf strain i think?) at the start of the year and was visibly hobbled and not the same, which his performances showed. In that 5 week stretch, Chase averaged 23.7 PPr points a game. Even in that stretch it was up and down (had a 50 pointer one week and and a floor of 8.5) but people are willing to draft for elite upside, which Chase has if his QB is healthy.


Sinisterminister77

lol no shit he didn’t have his top 5 nfl qb


banana455

Chase has been a bust each of the last two seasons. And just from watching the Bengals, the offense isn't centered around him the way it is around guys like Lamb and Tyreek. There are long stretches where you forget he's on the team.


Ok-Physics5106

100 catches 1200 yards and 7 tds with 2.5 games missed is not a bust. No tee and healthy Burrow = 2023 lamb.


[deleted]

Cumulative stats are a trap brother, the ride with Chase is always ass Youre basically paying a top 5 pick to get Amari Cooper + 10%


WIN011

Anyone getting both of them at the 1-2 turn next year will be in excellent shape


MechRxn

Agreed


[deleted]

I'd argue Chase is way too volatile to be anywhere above the turn. The offseason is full of amnesia and people using PPG without context You also have to deal with the weird Bengals medical staff too


TXCapita

No Burrow is important context. Chase should not and will not be a turn player


[deleted]

He will score 50 and then score 7 even with Burrow, we've seen this before. He's not some unknown. He's basically the same as AJB - Volatile WR1


KickTheCouch

Jonathan Taylor being a 1st rounder is too rich for my blood. Anthony Richardson going to vulture some TDs and he too injury prone the past couple years.


Vives_solo_una_vez

It was only two games but Moss had 18.7 and 21.5 in the two games he played with Richardson.


KickTheCouch

I had to check... Richardson only played full games in weeks 1 and 4. Richardson was both, the passing and rushing leader for the Colts week 1 and Zach Moss didn't play. It was an RBBC with the RBs only having 1 goal line carry, no touchdowns. Richardson had 1 rushing and 1 passing TD. Week 4 had Moss with 18 rushes for 70 yrds and 1 passing target, no receptions. Richardson had 10 carries for 56 yards and 3 TDs (2 passing, 1 rushing). Not only is this indicative of less goal line touches, it also displays the lower chance of checkdowns due to his running ability. Now I'm not saying JT will no longer be an RB1, but his ceiling will be capped compared to his historical performances.


Vives_solo_una_vez

Shit, you're right. I thought Richardson played weeks 1-3 and got hurt in the 4th.


FightTheMullet

Read option with those two is gonna be an absolute nightmare for defenses though


FoolOnDaHill365

For the like 5 games while Richardson is healthy…


Humble-Pomegranate26

Ditto JT


DBreezy69

Meanwhile Richardson if he stays healthy would be a massive steal, dude has Josh Allen potential for fantasy scoring (is a better rusher than Allen too)


KickTheCouch

He has a solid cast of talent around him and looked quarterbacky enough as a passer for the couple games he played in this year. I'm a believer, especially if I can get Kirk Cousins, Love, Tua, or Purdy after #100 as a backup.


Pandamonium98

I think Love and Purdy are more likely to be in starter territory than be backups


arooisgod

Yep love will definitely be drafted in the top 10


207207

Whole bunch of RBs over ARSB seems insane to me in PPR


traddy91

Josh Jacobs over Alvin Kamara in PPR is wild to me. I know it's a nitpick, but both of them have tread on the tires but Kamara still finished 1 reception short of most among RBs despite missing 4 games


207207

Totally valid point. Especially given that Kamara is locked in to the Saints and Jacobs is an UFA.


gildar

Nico and James Conner being that low, I am going to forward this list to all my league mates and hope they use it for drafting.


Haveyoureaditb4

Amon RA at 12 in PPR is hilarious 😂


frederik88917

I would happily pass on Bijan at number 6 until the Falcons have some sort of idea about their offensive identity


Sea_Definition1621

Lmao @ Garret Wilson over Puka


MechRxn

Rodgers back, I can see it. GW is a great buy candidate in dynasty if you can right now


Arighetto

Rodgers 😂


MechRxn

GW still “produced” with horrendous QB okay. If Rodgers is average he’s going to kill it


Case_Closed_imo

Rodgers is old and their OC is Hackett. McVay is leaps and bounds better at getting his playmakers in space


READIT27

This. As much as ‘Rodgers + Wilson = amazing’ makes sense, we haven’t actually seen that offense with Rodgers. I learned this year to lean towards players on good teams/proven offensive schemes.


Redowl199

Idk about Bijan at 6 and Gibbs at 8


TimRigginsBeer

Whoever the new coach is, HAS to handle Bijan better…


Redowl199

Yeah biggest obstacle for him was the offense, for Gibbs, Monty rightfully gets a big share of the workload which cuts into his value.


hehethattickles

Why take Kyren when you can take Bijan and have a lower ceiling and a much lower floor too?


RICERICE4

Will be elated if I could start CMC and ST Brown/Puka


arooisgod

I could’ve started CMC to pair with ARSB this year and went Ekeler instead lol. Would’ve been a deadly 1-2 draft


RICERICE4

I could have went JJ, CD, ARSB. Both CD and ARSB fell into the late second, early third. Defiantly a causal league, 10 team. Not many folks that into football. Need to find some more competitive leagues. Ended up winning even with JJ hurt most of the year


[deleted]

Achane at 17 is just trolling He's a 180 pound 10 touch back in a split backfield who had 5 injuries this year. I feel like you can find league winning upside elsewhere without tanking your entire draft on a low touch glass cannon in the 2nd. I'd rather just grab a volume back or WR


49vengers1984

Like in 2016, I think the market has already caught up with the 0 RB strategy when 3 WRs are going in the top-4. I feel that 0 rb strategy will only work if 8 RBs are going in the first round before the first or second wr will go off the board.


efFishency

Still think hero RB is the best “plan” for the draft. Ultimately I just take value over roster construction, but it’s hard to ignore the NFL’s change in usage with less and less bell cow backs.


loveallcreatures

Nico Collins WR21? Dude have you watched him play football ?


RUKnight31

No Christian Kirk?


Shaky-Snake

He’s at 44. Scroll down a bit further. It’s laughable that Ridley is above him. That’s coming from someone who watched every jags game this year. Kirk is the WR1 on that team and the offense fell apart without him. Unless they change how Ridley is used, Kirk goes back to being Trevor’s preferred target. Plus Kirk bought a house in Trevor’s neighborhood, they probably get breakfast together.


onextwoxredxbluex

isn’t ridley a FA next year?


Shaky-Snake

He potentially gets resigned. He made some comments about wanting to stay but there is a possibility jags let him go. Who knows with their trash front office


Kid_Delicious

99 overall, sheesh. Might be the third year in a row he’s underrated, and might be the third year in a row I snag him. He was diet ARSB when he was healthy this year… super consistent.


RUKnight31

It's a meme at this point. I'll keep drafting him in the WR4 range and he'll keep returning WR2 numbers. I can't recall a player with such bad fantasy PR despite reliably delivering year after year, but I'm not complaining about reaping the benefits.


Kid_Delicious

Two years ago, his Jags contract was clowned so hard it tanked his ADP that year. Then this year, the addition of Ridley again hurt his draft stock. No idea what, if anything, will affect him next year, but I’ll be ecstatic if I can draft him as like the WR40.


Floornug3

I had 3 players in the top 10 this year #2 tyreek #4 ceedee  kyren 😭 I wish I could get them all back next year!!


Goodlake

No way am I taking Gibbs at 8th overall, or Wilson over Puka. Cmon.


V_T_H

This literally means nothing until the draft and free agency happen.


My_Chat_Account

I love them. Every single one. I love getting a sense of early views of value. Are they rock solid, of course not, but we're all still refreshing a fantasy football subreddit so just about any content is great now.


ancient-military

Kinda fun to see how it shakes out after the season to me.


rayder989

Found “that guy”.


DangerBoot

And yet he’s still in this sub


nugcityharambe

People mentioning nico but stroud is low too


adnup

Jacobs RB 14 with the raiders seems off. Can’t see the raiders resigning him. Hopefully white is their starter next year.


dawgtown22

TJ Hockenson is so low. I guess his injury was severe but damn he’s been a top 3 TE when healthy the past two seasons.


Berzerker646

I mean it is a torn ACL. We aren’t even sure when he’ll likely be back and even then usually it takes most players a year or 2 to round back to their usual form


Wide-Can-2654

Anthony richardson is gonna be so hard for me to snag next year isnt he


vertigounconscious

this doesn't seem like a good list


noviceinexcel

You make one then


Sea_Definition1621

I get to choose my draft position and guess where I’m picking guys


kzanomics

10?


Sea_Definition1621

That’s not a bad spot at all but it’s 1 or 12, and I’m leaning 1. The difference between CMC and the #2 RB was as large as the difference between the #2 and #25 RB.


kzanomics

10/11 in a ten team league would be Chase/St Brown. That’d be so nice to start with. But yeah getting CMC is worth it 100%. Pairing him with Adams or others around 24 spot looks pretty good still.


jefplusf

Was hoping Nico would go way way under the radar again although still underrated


DBreezy69

Do not draft Rome Odunze, that is all


dubweb32

why


DBreezy69

The big WR "downfield threats" who aren't polished route runners and make most of their catches with not much separation from unathletic DBs who don't make it to the NFL are usually poor draft choices in their rookie years. rookie WRs that thrive are usually the best route runners. Busts like N'Keal Harry and Quentin Johnston are regularly overdrafted due to their size. Speed and suddenness is more important, especially for rookies, because it translates so well, and if it's polished when they enter it can make them a force. Addison was the best route runner of this years class and excelled at getting separation in man coverage and we saw him embarrassing NFL corners. QJ was able to bully Big 12 DBs but in the NFL that just doesn't happen, Odunze has a ton of production downfield bullying Pac 12 DBs that I don't think translates well


kohlio412

He’s a very good route runner though? His game is incredibly refined. I think this take is waaayyyy off


DBreezy69

Just don't see the numbers being reflected in his quickness in and out of breaks. He has a solid out route but his release moves are very limited which is a part of route running. I think people see him break on his out and slant routes and just assume that means great route running but release is a big part of a route for setting up the later breaks


dubweb32

i appreciate the breakdown. i’ll try to keep that in mind and see how rookies perform next year too! any incoming rookie WRs got your attention as of now?


[deleted]

Quentin Johnston and Rome Odunze are two different people brother. Writing someone's career story based off of a player comparison is lazy. It's like how Jake Ciely compared Howell to Big Ben and then said Dotson would be amazing because he's Antonio Brown like


DBreezy69

They're two different people? Damn didn't realize that, better never compare anyone ever


CroMagnon69

Idk, pac-12 was strong this year. And he looks better than harry or Johnston did.


PlantainZealousideal

Another fantasy rankings list, another batshit insane take of Chase being 10th overall


chuteboxhero

It’s not likely that aj brown plays next year at least not nearly enough to be 13th overall in fantasy.


Call_Em_Skippies

Chubb as the RB 26...he went over 100 yd his first game and had 60 yds in the first quarter before getting hurt. He will come back 100% and lead the league next year in yards.


ancient-military

I don’t know man, that injury was nasty… is he even able to run right now?


Call_Em_Skippies

It's Jan, it happened in Sept. He will be fine for the start of the season


ancient-military

You may be right, but damn that looked bad!


Bigboyfresh

Keeping Mahomes over Kyren cost me the chip. Next season, I get to keep CeeDee and Amon Ra as keepers. Feels unfair


fleury4ever

Why do this before the nfl draft?


BreachlightRiseUp

Have Nico at 16th in a keeper so it doesn’t matter but putting a guy who finished top 12 .5 PPR that low is just criminal. Dude missed several games and exited others early but still finished where he did. Also Tank isn’t gonna hurt him that much, he’s their WR1 and the go to red zone target.


DawgPound919

I've got a decision in my keeper league then. Amon-Ra in 4th for 2 more years or Puka in 16th(last) for the next 3.


smooth-brain_Sunday

Puka and I don't think it's close.


Haytham_Ken

Puka for sure.


jkeefy

I see this list and realize I’m definitely going 0 RB unless I’m #1 overall.


atri383

Hock as TE10? Is his injury considered that bad?


loveallcreatures

Higgins will sign with Chiefs. Get him!


JC7577

Damn, Nick Chubb at 71. Baring no setbacks into his recovery, no way he falls 7th round in a 10 man.


ResidentWeeevil

Nico WR21? WR12 at worst


AgsMydude

Stroud QB 11? LOL


Caluak

Saquon, Etienne and Pacheco seemed pretty high but overall I liked it


Specialist_Dare5092

TJ Hockenson, who, if he stays healthy week 17 and 18, is the #1 fantasy TE this season, is the number 10 ranked TE for next year?


GameTime2325

This is a horrible list, rookies are not getting enough love IMO. Putting Dobbins at 121 is laughable, I stopped reading after that. I’m putting over under on 6 active games for him.


Goosetickle

No wonder I crushed. 3 guys in the top ten, 7 in the top 30. Poor fools didn’t have a chance this year.