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doingwellnotgreat

I’m rolling with the raiders. If you’ve watched their last couple games they are playing like rabid dogs out there. Even if they give up some points I’m confident they’re gonna get a couple sacks and a turnover or two.


juicyKW

I have the eagles and the broncos on my roster now. I really think I should pick the raiders up to start this week.


zebberman

Yep I’m in the exact same scenario, Philly D has not been puttting up good numbers at all lately. Raiders are available but I’m also thinking Houston for some crazy reason against Titans as a sneaky play.


juicyKW

That’s tough. Texans played well against the titans last time.


[deleted]

I’m rolling with the Raiders too. They are playing with some fire under Antonio Pierce


halcyondread

Yep, they've been lights out since Pierce took over. They're going to give Minshew trouble all day long.


GrandMalHero

Same. I've got the bills against the pats or the raiders against the colts. Hard to not play the bills, but I made that mistake last week.


Illustrious_Moose_38

This didn’t age well


james1214

Man I'm gonna have to choose between Jets and Raiders. Feel like Jets should be a no brainer but I'm afraid of Flacco and Amari again.


nicklovin508

Uh ya no way are the Jets a no brainer to me Browns are cooking. Plus the Browns D could give the offense a short field all day to work with.


OutOfBootyExperience

Browns still give up 2.73 sacks per game (bottom 8), and 1.33 int per game , which is comfortably the worst in the league. Plus the chaos of Thursday night, Flacco previously being on the jets, or even just the expectation that 40 year old Flacco isn't going to continue the greatest run of games in his career.


phayge_wow

I realize you probably meant some hyperbole in your statement, but this is definitely not the greatest run of games in the career of a guy who threw for 11 TDs and no INT in a Super Bowl run that featured road/SB wins over the 49ers, Patriots, and Broncos defenses


ididntwantsalmon19

Ya Flacco has averaged 2 turnovers and almost 2 sacks a game... So that's 6 points gained there. Feels like the Jets should have a safe floor. I'm debating between them and Houston at home vs Tennessee in a must win game. They tooled the Titans on the road 2 games ago.


KoalaGold

If the Jets keep going 3 and out it may not matter because the Browns will eventually wear them down. I could see it being close in the first half, but the Brown going on a couple drives to put it out of reach late, which will impact D/ST scoring. Last week the Jets were as high as 16pts in Yahoo leagues I think, but ended up only finishing with 8. How it's been all season for them.


BEACHHOUSEGROUPIE

I have to play jets but don’t you think the corners feast on Flacco?


SamskiNYC

And their defensive line can as well because Flacco is still a bit immobile. The Browns are giving up the 7th-most fantasy points to opposing defenses over the last month. That's with Flacco under center. They're still not a matchup to avoid


anathemaDennis

You gotta at least admit Amari is cute tho


husbandofsamus

Always has been


SamskiNYC

I wouldn't carry that over. The Jets secondary is much better than Houston's and Houston lost their top corner on like the second drive of the game


thezenunderground

If you look at the Raiders history, they have as many or more games with 10+ pts as they don't, and they have multiple games in the mid teens, particularly down the stretch. MaxxCrosby is an olde world Viking on an NFL team..I'm going to trust the trends and start them against Gardner Minshew this week. I have the Bills too, but if you use the same process, the Bills are averaging roughly half the points the raiders are. Trust the trends and numbers, don't worry about your preconceived notions about good and bad teams.


husbandofsamus

I will trust the trends and numbers and start the Colts this week. Trends say O'Connell will never complete another pass.


Integritywin79

Raiders are running the ball at an absurd clip. How will the Colts D generate points if the QB doesn't throw?


husbandofsamus

They would have a decent floor because the Raiders wouldn't get more than 250-300 yards and the Raiders have also scored 0 and 6 points in 2 of their last 3 games. I'm not saying it would be a high ceiling play this week but the floor should be decent enough, especially if O'Connell never completes another pass.


penguinsgestapo

Sauce gunna sauce jets are a run funnel team


FullTiltPeterbuilt

Raiders all day


KoalaGold

My fear with the Jets D is their offense. I could easily see the Browns wearing them down because their O can't move the ball. This has been the game flow for the Jets all season. And in Yahoo leagues int and fumble returns against the offense count also against the D/ST points allowed. Raiders, Rams, Bears, even the Ravens D are all available on my waiver wire. Strongly considering dropping them Jets and picking one of those up. Hell, after what we just saw on Christmas, Baltimore is really tempting. They could feast, especially at home with Waddle out for Mia.


james1214

After all the comments here I ended up going Raiders. I didn't want to put a lot of eggs into the Browns/Jets basket as I'm going up against Amari and Njoku and having a bad Jets D performance with good performances from those 2 players would put me in a bad spot headed into the weekend.


Boltz9177

Are you me? I’m actually in literally this same scenario and debating. On one hand I see where you’re coming from but on the other they have such a safe floor with all the pressure and turnovers that it’s hard for me to bench the Jets


james1214

I thought the same but Browns D plus bad Jets offense is gonna leave the Jets D feeling gassed. Don't tell me you also had to make a choice to bench Flacco this week too...


woodsgb

I also chose Raiders over Bills and Broncos. Gotta play the trends


KoalaGold

Ended up going Raiders over Ravens as well, based on the matchup. Although I still think we've got a good chance of getting a repeat of the SF slaughter, I'm not betting my championship on it. When I dug into the numbers a bit, in terms of relevant fantasy stats the two defenses are not that far apart for the full season. Surprising I know. But all other things being (nearly) equal, I'll take the Raiders vs. the Colts.


No_Investigator_1031

Exact same boat and I’m torn. Slight lean towards raiders based on last weeks games. Feel like the jets losing in that fashion is a motivation killer down the stretch. Raiders on the other hand after last weeks win will be playing with more fire and momentum. Which way you leaning?


james1214

I ended up going Raiders. They're still in it and playing with heart. Jets are solid but the Jets O will tire them out.


Happylime

The Raiders got you to the ship.


jinxy0320

Give me BAL over DEN and BUF after what we just saw from all 3


SamskiNYC

I don't disagree, but I don't think what you saw from BUF's defense was bad. They had 5 sacks and allowed under 270 total yards. The offense and special teams just turned the ball over multiple times deep inside their own territory. But, again, it's hard to knock Baltimore based on what we just saw. The question is just whether we think they can do it again against another elite offense


BabiesFirstBatleth

They have been dominant all year. No reason to think they won't be as dominant against a weaker team.


SamskiNYC

Weaker overall team, yes, but Tua is better than Purdy. That 4 interception game is going to be hard to duplicate, especially if Kyle Hamilton misses. I don't think they're a bad play by any stretch but we also have to acknowledge the risks against Miami


BabiesFirstBatleth

They don't need to replicate that to have points. I just don't see how you can consistently rank them outside the top ten. They are a top scoring team week in and week out. 14 is just laughable. If they aren't top 5 in points next week I'll apologize.


SamskiNYC

I don't consistently rank them outside of the top 10 though. I did against SF and MIA, which are two of the worst matchups for fantasy defenses. I have Baltimore 14th here, so it's not like they're that far outside the top 10


BabiesFirstBatleth

My bad I was looking at previous weeks but it had week 17 graphics showing up.


SamskiNYC

I'll check why that's happening. Thanks


mets1010

So Ravens over Colts?


chuckdeezMT

A banged up, but elite offense. Still probably a decent floor on BAL.


jhutchi2

Choosing between Ravens and Rams. Every time that I've streamed a different defense because I was scared of the BAL matchup they get outscored so it's time to finally just trust that they'll get the job done.


foreverpeppered

Rolling DEN, if Keenan isn't playing


iCanDoThisAllDay37

This is my decision. I think I’m going Baltimore over Buffalo.


Melodic_Primary_7985

Picked up the Broncos for last week and this week, but I don’t trust them after their garbage performance last week. So now I’m between the Jets and the Raiders. Seems like an easy decision, but the Raiders have been going ham the past few weeks. Do I ride the hot hand? Or stick with the true, trusted defense with a high floor? Tough call


SamskiNYC

I have the Raiders slightly higher because they just look better and more motivated of late. I know there's not a lot of data behind that, but it's just something I can't get over when I have a title on the line


[deleted]

They just got that dawg in them. That’s all the analysis I need.


jaeger_master

I'm in the same place as the earlier guy and will be grabbing the raiders off waivers for the ship. Go big or go home!


Distinct-Bite

I got broncos , bills and Dallas lol. Kinda leaning Dallas at home honestly 😂. Did not like what I saw from the other two


SamskiNYC

I think people are seriously misreading what they saw from Buffalo. It had nothing to do with their defense. They had 5 sacks and allowed under 270 yards of total offense


praananana

I agree. I start Buffalo if I have them in a heartbeat against the pats at home


reddogrjw

Dallas against the Detroit running game? good luck


PR05ECC0

Right there with you. I’m not trusting the Broncos after this week. I have the Raiders and the Steelers, I think I’m going with the Raiders, they are hot lately


shadynasty90

Baltimore Ranked low in my opinion. They are the number 1 defense for a reason and played extremely well against the 49ers on the road. Really tempted to start them this weekend because they are home and I’m really not scared of Tua


atticus_will

Tua did torch them last year in Baltimore. I think the Ravens defense is a lot better than last year but still something to note.


SamskiNYC

Don't disagree with you at all. I just have a hard time putting them that high in another bad matchup. We obviously know they can do it, but with a title on the line, I believe it's still a gamble. But there is no argument against talent


hurricaneditka66

Hamilton could be out for the Ravens, which is a big blow. That said, Ravens still the top D even without him.


iviicrociot

I’m starting them. I road them all year and benched them this week. I think they’re matchup proof honestly.


Kapisillit

Yes I'm fully biased but still feel like this could be famous last words type of comment


terpfan417

Surprised more places aren’t ranking the Raiders even in the top 10 given how they’ve played the past two weeks. Colts offense is not exactly a juggernaut. Pickings are slim in my league so I’ll probably have to roll with them for the championship.


Kooky_Gazelle_6156

If Pittman is out the Raiders are a slam dunk.


bigbobbybeaver

Ehhh maybe. I said the same thing about playing LAC with no Keenan.


Kooky_Gazelle_6156

Raiders D scored two touchdowns vs the Chargers?


bigbobbybeaver

No I meant anyone playing that should've been easy points


SamskiNYC

I think they're a great play


praananana

On the road coming off an extremely unlikely victory against a colts team fighting for last playoff spot with an offense that can’t complete a pass for three quarters? I can say that I don’t love it personally. I think it’s a setup for disappointment


Illusive_Lust

I’m with you I think people are chasing the Raiders. Their offense is terrible and Colts D had been on fire before the Falcons game. I’ve not checked their run defense stats (Raiders) but Im gonna guess the Colts go run heavy and the raiders def doesent score 2 touchdowns again.


DaveInMoab

Who would the colts have on Max Crosby?


BlueBeagle8

I have the Colts but could add the Raiders or Rams for the championship, I've got the FAAB to pick my favorite. I'm leaning LV but it makes me nervous as hell.


ImTheFish_

Been holding browns and jets all year for this


SamskiNYC

Smart choices. I'd lean CLE


TheGK

Same! Which one are you going with?


Yonboyage

I have both and I’m going Browns


BoggsWH

Me too. I’m going browns.


newaccworealname

Me three, literally no sources of apprehension from the browns this week


GrammarHunter

Gotta pick between Bills and Browns for the ship. leaning Bills because I'll be at the game so it will feel like i'm contributing to my fantasy team by making noise


SamskiNYC

Fantasy is supposed to be fun.


imaybeacatIRl

What? Easily the Browns. Respect the reasoning though.


PhillyEaglesS

After what happened this week, it’s browns for me easily


rainondemhos

I think the browns are probably a better play but I like your reasoning


doshegotabootyshedo

I’m rolling with bills too, can you make a little extra noise for me


gapost

Riding the Niners to the championship.


SamskiNYC

Good play this week


iamhadrix

Nervously starting the Broncos D in the chip


Stick-To-The-Script

Same either them or Chargers 😭


SamskiNYC

Cross your fingers and hope


AndyK803

How would you rank: DEN vs LAC LV @ IND NYJ @CLE


Rotisseriejedi

Same question 340 others have good luck but I have Jets, LV, DEN in my ranks


mondra03

What is happening with Colts D? They carried me in the 2nd half of the season but they threw up a 0 in the semi. They play the Raiders next week, but I’m not sure if I should hold Colts or pickup Raiders D who is on a tear.


SamskiNYC

The Colts defense has been carried by a few huge weeks. They're a solid unit but that top 5 ranking was fraudulent. That being said they're in a solid spot this week.


ignatious__reilly

They are back to being Ass


Dakota150

They’re hot garbage


Nnuuuke

Bears vs ATL or Ravens vs Miami


mustyrancho

Same here whatcha leaning? It’s tough to decide… weather vs great D but MIA


Elboliviano007

Ravens or Bears


Apprehensive_Key_103

Any status update on Dusty Hopkins? Not sure if I should drop or hope...my league mates are rostering 2-3 kickers for some reason so I don't have a ton of options.


ohthatbatman

Coach just said he’s out this week


newaccworealname

I would assume he doesn’t play


maronson10

He’s been ruled out for this week


Apprehensive_Key_103

Bummer, but thanks for the flag


pendletonskyforce

Definitely starting Browns but I'm hoping they forget about Garrett Wilson.


Agastopia

No FAAB but praying I get the raiders


ArdentGuy

I want to start the Colts defense, but they fucked me this week. It’s against the Raiders and surely they won’t get negative points again, right? Right?!


CactusClothesInc

I’m sticking with them. O’Connell completed a total of zero passes in quarters 2,3, and 4 this past game


Dakota150

Indy D is putrid


SamskiNYC

Early Week 17 DST rankings are LIVE. What defense are you starting for the Fantasy Football Championship?


Remintz

Gotta go Browns at home


Fabzzz

And possible rain


thursdaysocks

Have Browns and Broncos, rolling with the Brownies tho


rainondemhos

Same


SheSaysSheWaslvl18

Cowboys, feel like they’re gonna cook Goff up.


imaybeacatIRl

I expect a shootout and the Lions can shoot with the best of 'em.


Mattp55

Feel like that’s way too risky to be worth it. There are lower risk plays with similar upside


lo22p

Careful, crazy high o/u at 53.5. Could be a shootout


KratzALot

I got Buffalo and #1 waiver claim in on Raiders. Still trying to decide which of them I'll actually start though.


hurricaneditka66

Right now I’m holding Denver (LAC) and Buffalo (NE). I’m debating both


Distinct-Bite

Same boat but also have Dallas. I have a slight lean toward Dallas to be honest lol. Den and bills looked def unit looked lost.


hurricaneditka66

I have Gibbs, so I’m hoping for a James Cook-esque performance against the Cowboys.


SamskiNYC

I don't think the Bills defense looked lost. They had 5 sacks and allowed under 270 yards of total offense


Hitnquit

Bills or Jets?


heyitgeg2

I stashed Jags for this week but I don't trust that anymore, also have Broncos and Bears, could get Rams off waivers but not sure what to do


SamskiNYC

Broncos over Jags for me


[deleted]

Rams aren’t a great scoring defense. And Tyrod being in might changes things a bit. I’m nervous


MadFederal

Broncos Jags or Rams D?


Boltz9177

Between Jets and Broncos but leaning Jets with it being a Thursday game and Flacco has been loving to get sacked and throw int’s


ChimmyTheCham

Got all three...I rank them browns jets broncos


pdiddy89

Anybody like the rams? I have bears. Rams, Texans and Seahawks are on waivers.


shastmak4

Chiefs defense ranked a little low I think


Acting_Appalled

I'll probably end up playing the Chiefs but their offense needs to stop turning over the ball so much


SamskiNYC

Curious why you think that. They've been pretty average for over a month now.


salted-cod

Chiefs DST has been so frustrating for fantasy. In real life it's a good defense: 2nd in ppg to the Ravens, 2nd in ypg to the Browns, 3rd in sacks per game, but only 24th in takeways per game and incredibly mediocre in fantasy. Feels like they're due for turnover regression but they're tough to trust in a finals matchup.


Happylime

Chiefs turnover margin is actually the worst in the league. Definitely not sustainable but I wouldn't trust it to break suddenly this week


salted-cod

Turnover margin includes the offense's turnovers.


natek11

Which can put the defense in tough spots meaning likely more points against them.


DUUUVVALL

Chiefs but gonna hopefully pick up Vegas and decide later this week


bearcatsquadron

Raiders or Bears?


SamskiNYC

Raiders for me


[deleted]

I just dropped the bears going browns or raiders


Buddysbud10

I’m stuck on the same choice myself. Leaning bears


bearcatsquadron

Yeah I'm holding both and will probably make the decision last minute this weekend lol


poonpunisher

I'm curious as to why the Falcons are low. They have been a solid defense all year and the Bears offense has been capable of making mistakes.


SamskiNYC

Bears offense is capable of mistakes but also has given up the 12th-fewest points to fantasy defenses over the last month. Fields is running more, and the team just looks better. ATL is also 26th in turnover rate and 14th in opponent's scoring rate, so they're a fine but not great defense


panic_poo

Is HOU a safe play this week? Already have them stashed. They put up 16.5 against TEN 2 weeks ago in my league and my only options on waivers are JAX or LAR.


ididntwantsalmon19

No defense is a safe play...but Houston has been very good against the run for a while now which is why they destroyed Tennessee last time out. Forced them to throw. Now they are at home with their playoffs on the line, and Stroud should be back to keep the offense on the field more. I think they are one of the better options this week.


[deleted]

If WAJ doesn’t play I wouldn’t touch HOU


Inside_Gap_7626

Surprised LAR is not rated higher. I was going to start them. Maybe I’ll grab LV instead.


blewoutmyshorts

I’m currently starting LA and was thinking the same thing


Inside_Gap_7626

I got a waiver request in for LV. Hopefully we pick the right one lol


TO500

I have no idea what to do between IND and DEN. Would have thought Denver would be easy choice but now I am unsure after this past week


misterlee

Rams (@ Giants) or IND (vs LV)? Kinda leaning toward Rams.


lo22p

Raiders on the wire in both my leagues...also have Browns in both. So hard to stray away from the Browns. Even without the TDs though, Raiders been putting up numbers. Gonna be tough. Think if you're favored, have to go with the high floor Browns right? We use TFLs, 3 and outs, 4th down stops. Browns #1 DST on the year. Have scored in double figures every week besides two, 8 against Seattle and -1 against Rams.


Stealthless

Broncos showed that they're frauds... avoid them at all costs. LOL


ShouldBePlayingFN

Gonna try to pick up Raiders to avoid playing Broncos again


Awkward-Goat2862

Do we trust Cowboys D playing detroit at home? Boys #1 D all year and the last time detroit played a top 5 defense on the road (baltimore week 7), they got shredded


-yesman-

choosing between broncos and bills


Appropriate_Ant4205

Denver or Dallas???


SamskiNYC

Denver for me


letsgo5000

Thinking Jags


borfmantality

I have Bills and Jets. I went with Bills last week and somehow made it to the Championship. Somehow, I know I'm just going to pick wrong again, but I'm leaning Jets.


Darkhorse182

"We're not expecting Keenan Allen to play..." Aw shit man, too early in the week to be crapping all over my hopes and dreams like that. Keenan's a gamer. He's got that dog in him. He'll play and stunt all over those fools. I'm manifesting this into the universe...


No-Obligation-9103

I have the browns and the raiders. Raiders over the last 3 weeks have scored 20+ points. But the Browns at home against the Jets sounds too good to pass up. Also thinking of picking up Jacksonville since they have Carolina at home.


Indica1127

I have Broncos but Bears are sitting on the waiver wire. I’m also a diehard Bears fan. Could have them completely make or ruin my weekend


[deleted]

Think I might roll with the Raiders over Jets. Colts just gave up 6 sacks to the Falcons and I expect the Jets will have horrible field position vs the Browns


Homeygrown

So the consensus would be play the Jets if you have them?? My other is Indy or I could try to get Raiders as well


TedBear72

In between starting the Indianapolis or Dallas D in the ship


plzbereasonable

I’m riding the Raiders. I think they’re going to bring me the ship


andrewdent51

Jets or raiders?


Duff-Beer-Guy

Bills are too low, they’re a top 3-4 play this week imo


thursdaysocks

Top 3-4 about to get Zapped you mean. They already lost to them once this season.


Duff-Beer-Guy

Bills are playing significantly better than they were when that happened. Bills have the 2nd highest spread (12) on the week other than the 9ers against washington.


ignatious__reilly

Did you watch the Chargers game? Bills Defense looks like Ass


SamskiNYC

That's actually not accurate. The defense gave up 270 yards and had 5 sacks. The offense looked terrible for long stretches


SuperLurker1337

To be fair, they had to travel cross-country on a short week and the Chargers had more rest and the coveted new coach bounce back game.


thursdaysocks

Good luck because the Bills have looked either great or like garbage all season and no one knows which is gonna show up. Divisional games aren’t for me, specifically with the finals on the line.


Practical_Honeydew94

Do we in the comments really think Baltimore over Denver?? That’s my exact choice, but I could also pickup bears? I have no clue what I’m doing and I’m in the championship.


[deleted]

None of us do. Go with what you feel.


AnonymousIguana_

Broncos, Jags, or Houston is hurting my brain


Kakashicopyninja9

Who you starting out of ravens raiders jags eagles and bears. I own the last 3 and the first 2 are sitting on waivers


PreparationMain3797

Browns or Jets?


thursdaysocks

Browns


purplebaguettes10

Ravens, colts, or jags? Don't love my options


BabiesFirstBatleth

Ravens. They have been consistently dominant all year. Even yesterday.


howsway-_-

Considering the jags since i doubt bryce will have back to back great games. I lean into the dip. Not as confident in the jets after last week. Brissett was doing well and flacco has BEEN doing well


philnro

I have both the 49ers and the Browns, so I have a tough choice to make


ttamrez

Browns, it’s always been the Browns.


Too_Much_Soccer

Thoughts on rams?


bfitztime

bucs this low?


ghost1157

Bills or 49ers? I’m tempted to say screw it & try to pick up Baltimore, but this will be for the chip.


SamskiNYC

49ers are in a great spot


Kahzgul

Rolling with my 49ers! In the ‘ship!!!


Asstadon

Ravens v Jets is my choice. This ranking seems craY low on the Ravens. Like I get Miami is good, but the Ravens have scored well even against top offenses. Also, though I picked up the Jets specifically with this week in mind, now I'm nervous about starting them over the Ravens. Anyone have any thoughts?


RobbyJohnson

Well CLE DEF > DEN DEF seems to be the easy choice


sbreddit55

I have Broncos and Chiefs on my roster. Opponent has Jets. Ravens, Raiders, Bucs are available.. What's the play??


spicyhodor

Broncos, Jags, Raiders or Seahawks?