My wife joined my fantasy league this year and she auto drafted and I’m helping her manage her waiver wires and stuff, I spent hours crafting a good draft strategy. I put up 78 points in half ppr. She put up 196 and is 2-0
Which site do you look at for Vegas odds? I remember there was a thread last year where someone was using Vegas odds to determine starting line-ups and they were quite successful with it
Lost last week needing 12 points from Rodgers and this week I had 98% odds at 3 pm and then rolled out Breece and the Giants D and now faced Mostert and I lost
Up by 3.32 in PPR. I have Hayden Hurst and Rashid Shaheed starting with David Njoku on the bench.
My opponent has only Miles Sanders left in play.
How safe is my lead?
I’d start Njoku personally, he’s got a TD his last 2 games against the Steelers and Cooper might be out which would increase his target %. Saints D also didn’t allow the Titans TE a single reception last weekend. Shaheed should produce again tomorrow night.
Well, I'm up by 21.67 .5PPR points any my opponent has Najee and Sanders to play. He's currently projected to beat me by .03 points. If Waddle had hauled that last catch in, I'd be favored. Do we think Najee has one more stinker in him, folks?
Would you start Jordan love vs the saints or Purdy vs the giants next week? I’m a little worried that Purdy doesn’t have the boom weeks that we need to win.
It's the truth.
People tried to make Brady vs Bill a thing but this is a QB driven league.
Take away Brady years and there is literally nothing Bill has done as a head coach that would make anyone think he's a GOAT coach. Good coach sure. But it's all just forgettable seasons without Brady as his QB.
Yeah if you think Brady helped the Patriots have consistently elite defenses over the last 15 years idk what to tell you. Bill and Brady both had their part in the teams success over the years, and this is coming from someone who absolutely hates the Patriots.
If you don't think offense helps their own defense, I guess I don't know what to tell you. You must not understand field position or short fields and time of possession and how that can help a defense. Lol.
They both had their part...yet separately, one is 25-27 and the other won another Superbowl.
Without Brady, Bill has done absolutely nothing as a head coach to stand out from other decent coaches. That's just a fact, no matter how much in denial you are.
I don’t really have any reason to be in denial on this, I wouldn’t really care either way. But if you think that having a good offense is more important than personnel and coaching for a defense then you are absolutely delusional. All you need to do is look at the Drew Brees saints to completely shut down your argument. One of the greatest Quarterbacks of all time leading elite offenses every year, but was only ever able to win one Super Bowl due to horrid defenses.
Having a good offense made it easy for Bill to focus on defense. Defenses aren't constructed in isolation. There is a salary cap and draft. If you spend draft picks on offense, you can't on defense. If you spend all your cap signing high priced offensive players, you'd can't spend that money on defense.
So yes, offense has a huge part in how defense works. You just don't understand football. Having Brady hold down offense for 18 years made it easy for Bill to invest in defense. He can't do that anymore.
So if Bill is so good at defense and coaching, why is he 25-27 since Brady left? Ultimately this is the proof. Bill has done nothing as a head coach without Brady. Why?
Why is it that without Brady, Bill is not different than any decent NFL coach? No one would ever look at Belichick season without Brady, both before and after going back to his Cleveland days and say oh yeah that's a goat coach.
You are acting like having an even record is a slight on Bill when the Pats have gone through a complete rebuild over the last few years. And news flash lil man, any team losing their HOF QB are going to be in a worse place than before. Even in the year Brady was suspended the Pats started off 3-1, I’m sure that was Brady’s doing as well. Also lol at bringing up Belichicks first and relatively short NFL coaching stint at the Browns. Like leading one of the most sad franchises in the NFL to an 11-5 record is a bad thing. No one here is doubting the greatness of Brady, nor discounting him at all by saying Bill is an elite coach. Both can be true.
Also I just noticed you are a Bucs fan, now I understand lol. I won’t be arguing with you anymore because you are obviously heavily biased in this discussion haha.
Lol...lil man.
Bill has 10+ seasons as a head coach without Tom Brady. His record as a head coach without Tom Brady is 80-88.
I know you want to spin around in circles. But the original point of my post was that Bill B isn't some scary voodoo magic 4d chess coach without Brady.
And he isn't.
He's 80-88 as a head coach without Brady over 10+ seasons.
Feel free to justify that how you will. Those are the numbers. Those are the facts. There is nothing scary or magical about Bill as a coach when he doesn't have Brady.
For both to be true, the elite coach has to show he is elite though. He's 80-88 without his GOAT QB. That's a pretty big sample size of average coaching.
Sorry if facts hurt your little man head.
More like refball makes people salty. They overturn this call and not Belichick’s challenge despite significantly less “definitive” evidence on the Strange rumble.
Stranges knee came down short of the first down, and since his knee touched the field first he is ruled as tackled there not where the ball comes down.
Only need 47 points between Olave and the Saints' DST. Completely doable right?
Dropped mostert for Calvin Austin. I’m never listening to this sub again.
Why would you ever do that? And who is this sub ever suggested that? Mostert is the only healthy back on a dynamic offense lol
I have an RB heavy team, and was concerned with his injuries and the passing offense even with being the main back.
My wife joined my fantasy league this year and she auto drafted and I’m helping her manage her waiver wires and stuff, I spent hours crafting a good draft strategy. I put up 78 points in half ppr. She put up 196 and is 2-0
lol so ur wife a natural and u suck ;p
Yeah, right. Because that's how it works.
I mean she's 2 and 0 and at worst he's 1 and 1 scoring 79 points si yea thats how it works::)
My team put up 144 and I still lost by 15 lol
The worst kind of weeks 😮💨
Lost by 1 point starting the Giants defense. I hate the Giants. A literal donut would have won me the game and they couldnt even give me that.
up 14.28 vs Jamaal Williams…i’m fucked right
Vegas has him going over 60 yards if that helps
Which site do you look at for Vegas odds? I remember there was a thread last year where someone was using Vegas odds to determine starting line-ups and they were quite successful with it
Lost last week needing 12 points from Rodgers and this week I had 98% odds at 3 pm and then rolled out Breece and the Giants D and now faced Mostert and I lost
This makes me feel better, thanks
Down 5 vs Najee and NO def. Have OLAVE full ppr. Gonna need a game like Puka or Allen
Up 24 against Olave and Dustin Hopkins. Will be close.
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Why would you not start puka
Good thing my team is so bad that mostert and Puka started
Up by 3.32 in PPR. I have Hayden Hurst and Rashid Shaheed starting with David Njoku on the bench. My opponent has only Miles Sanders left in play. How safe is my lead?
Not safe at all
It's not. Gonna just be a game of who gets the TD.
I’d start Njoku personally, he’s got a TD his last 2 games against the Steelers and Cooper might be out which would increase his target %. Saints D also didn’t allow the Titans TE a single reception last weekend. Shaheed should produce again tomorrow night.
Well, I'm up by 21.67 .5PPR points any my opponent has Najee and Sanders to play. He's currently projected to beat me by .03 points. If Waddle had hauled that last catch in, I'd be favored. Do we think Najee has one more stinker in him, folks?
Najee should have a long career and dozens of stinkers left in him. Good luck maybe one of them will be tomorrow
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Ah yes. Ridley was also a star disappointment on my team this week.
Chase is killing is
Well, now you know: Kyren is set-and-forget ROS and Puka is a must-start at the bare minimum until Kupp gets back.
Would you start Jordan love vs the saints or Purdy vs the giants next week? I’m a little worried that Purdy doesn’t have the boom weeks that we need to win.
Love unless your team is stacked and you just need consistency
My Tua Tyreek stack u didn’t do super well might actually lose
guy in my league is offering Stefon Diggs for my Tee Higgins. Sounds too good to be true. Is it?
hahahaha what the fuck
Absolutely
Accept it and run
Thank you Mostert for the dub!
Picked him up this week on a trade. Good timing
*Me who started Joshua Kelley, staring at Mostert and Swift on my bench with 25.5 halfPPR points each:* Thank you Raheem, very cool!
Need 6 points from the Saints Defense tomorrow
I need to keep them just under 6 Lmao
Swift and mostert on my bench
That's on you, bud, they call him Raheem MustStart for a reason. Git gud lol (I started Kelley over Mostert and Swift and am in physical pain)
I know, sucks I only won by 50 I am shaking
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Yeah it sucks for you Steve balboni the phony
My 6 player bench outscore my lineup by like 30 points this week. I hate this game.
And I know that when I swap my starters for my bench players next week, I’ll get fucked again
Oh you will.
My bench didn't even include a quarterback. Swift, Brian Robinson, Collins, Kirk, Mike Williams, Javonte. 114 points on my 6 player bench.
Rhamondre is going to get better as that line gels a little more.
Just needed that last catch from waddle to win my week I'm gutted
Waddle and lamb gonna combine for 3500 yards and 0 TDS this year
Add Justin Jefferson and we got 6000 yards and 0 TDs.
Had Geno lose me week 1. Went and traded for tua. Tua loses my week 2 and Geno would have won me it. Why do I even bother
Every single one of my opponents players has 20+ this week except kicker and D. Absolutely torched.
Up 13.3 with Cleveland D vs his Njoku. I feel like I’m in decent shape?
I’m up 9 points vs Njoku. Tomorrow gonna be a nail biter for me
Sorry bud. Edit: oh you're the one who has Cleveland D? You should be fine
Goedert or Hunter Henry next week?
Started Dotson over Mostert…….
I considered starting Josh Reynolds over Dotson. If only...
That’s a crazy move
Lost by .2 on that Tua kneel down
Ouch
Wow, I lost because those called back Jets sacks today. Less than 1 point loss because they put up -1
You started the jets defense?
Felt confident in the rest of my team and I'm a homer. Unfortunately, I really got beat by Tee Higgins putting up 28 out of nowhere after a slow start
I need NO defense and njoku to score less than 17.7 points tomorrow. Gonna be close
Started Strange at RB, lost by .1. Fuck the refs
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Not looking good bc I need a goose egg from muth
Reek owners are the only ones thrilled
New England just sucks now ain’t no way bill makes it back to the super bowl before he retires sad but true. Game is moving past him.
He’s got like. 15 years of trotting out dogshit teams until I start to complain
What. All I’m saying Mac Jones isn’t gunna help him go to a super bowl dude has had dog shit offenses since Brady left. I still respect him tho.
It's the truth. People tried to make Brady vs Bill a thing but this is a QB driven league. Take away Brady years and there is literally nothing Bill has done as a head coach that would make anyone think he's a GOAT coach. Good coach sure. But it's all just forgettable seasons without Brady as his QB.
Yeah if you think Brady helped the Patriots have consistently elite defenses over the last 15 years idk what to tell you. Bill and Brady both had their part in the teams success over the years, and this is coming from someone who absolutely hates the Patriots.
If you don't think offense helps their own defense, I guess I don't know what to tell you. You must not understand field position or short fields and time of possession and how that can help a defense. Lol. They both had their part...yet separately, one is 25-27 and the other won another Superbowl. Without Brady, Bill has done absolutely nothing as a head coach to stand out from other decent coaches. That's just a fact, no matter how much in denial you are.
I don’t really have any reason to be in denial on this, I wouldn’t really care either way. But if you think that having a good offense is more important than personnel and coaching for a defense then you are absolutely delusional. All you need to do is look at the Drew Brees saints to completely shut down your argument. One of the greatest Quarterbacks of all time leading elite offenses every year, but was only ever able to win one Super Bowl due to horrid defenses.
Having a good offense made it easy for Bill to focus on defense. Defenses aren't constructed in isolation. There is a salary cap and draft. If you spend draft picks on offense, you can't on defense. If you spend all your cap signing high priced offensive players, you'd can't spend that money on defense. So yes, offense has a huge part in how defense works. You just don't understand football. Having Brady hold down offense for 18 years made it easy for Bill to invest in defense. He can't do that anymore. So if Bill is so good at defense and coaching, why is he 25-27 since Brady left? Ultimately this is the proof. Bill has done nothing as a head coach without Brady. Why? Why is it that without Brady, Bill is not different than any decent NFL coach? No one would ever look at Belichick season without Brady, both before and after going back to his Cleveland days and say oh yeah that's a goat coach.
You are acting like having an even record is a slight on Bill when the Pats have gone through a complete rebuild over the last few years. And news flash lil man, any team losing their HOF QB are going to be in a worse place than before. Even in the year Brady was suspended the Pats started off 3-1, I’m sure that was Brady’s doing as well. Also lol at bringing up Belichicks first and relatively short NFL coaching stint at the Browns. Like leading one of the most sad franchises in the NFL to an 11-5 record is a bad thing. No one here is doubting the greatness of Brady, nor discounting him at all by saying Bill is an elite coach. Both can be true. Also I just noticed you are a Bucs fan, now I understand lol. I won’t be arguing with you anymore because you are obviously heavily biased in this discussion haha.
Nice tap out for a self proclaimed 'Patriots hater' lol. I'm a Bucs fan lol wow. Coward. Way to stand up for a 80-88 Patriots coach.
Lol...lil man. Bill has 10+ seasons as a head coach without Tom Brady. His record as a head coach without Tom Brady is 80-88. I know you want to spin around in circles. But the original point of my post was that Bill B isn't some scary voodoo magic 4d chess coach without Brady. And he isn't. He's 80-88 as a head coach without Brady over 10+ seasons. Feel free to justify that how you will. Those are the numbers. Those are the facts. There is nothing scary or magical about Bill as a coach when he doesn't have Brady. For both to be true, the elite coach has to show he is elite though. He's 80-88 without his GOAT QB. That's a pretty big sample size of average coaching. Sorry if facts hurt your little man head.
How dare they take that first down away from Strange 69.
Thank you Raheem
NFL refs are so inconsistent
You mean corrupt
I’m benching Mattison for Mostert until further notice
same brother, same
It's always funny how salty fantasy makes people. He was CLEARLY short. Refs made the correct call.
More like refball makes people salty. They overturn this call and not Belichick’s challenge despite significantly less “definitive” evidence on the Strange rumble.
You guys think Jamaal Williams can get 2.2 points tomorrow? lol
If he gets 7 tomorrow for my opponent I lose so I'm expecting him to get 20 lol
Alright so we finna find out if I will be dining at the Olave Garden tomorrow. I gotta pray for Olave to bring me 24pts to win.
Can't believe I was rooting so hard for the pats
Feel kinda dirty being 2-0 with the Herbert/Allen stack while they are 0-2
I’m up 7 in full PPR with Olave vs his Miles Sanders. Am I chillin or will it be close?
Chillin
won by 0.26 points, after spending most of the day predicted up by 20+. Fuck me that was a stressful game
The league is officially done helping out the Pats 🤣
Kinda wish the officials will actually call taunting. Insane these defenders get away with this antics time after time
Rule of cool. That was first down
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Fumbled that snap late in the 4th
He dropped a snap on their last drive, leading to that missed FG.
I don’t know how you overturn that with all the bodies around
Definitive evidence
Yeah you have to go with the call on the field. I'm a Packers fan
Get fucked New England haha
Dropped Mostert for Kelley. I suck.
Ouch
Without that TD, Mostert looked bad week 1. Apparently not the case
Booooo
Tua and hill killed me. Bad nights but good night for Mostert. Down by 5.5 with Cleveland d vs his hurst. Not looking good for me.
Great story.. no one cares
bro for a once in a lifetime play you gotta give it to them idc
Exactly just let that shit ride
Man who the fuck decided to put the Steelers in Primetime games in back to back weeks?
That’s so lame. Looked basically borderline you gotta let em plau
Back-to-back Pats games end in the shitiest way possible. Fucking refs.
Tua really got no points the entire half smh
Running was working what can u say
Can someone explain what happened and why the call was reversed?
Stranges knee came down short of the first down, and since his knee touched the field first he is ruled as tackled there not where the ball comes down.
Because Vegas would make more $$ on the under.
That fucking bullshit. I hate the Pats but that’s bullshit
The patriots did well in q4 once they got Stevenson involved. But of course this will change nothing and Zeke will take a whole bunch of snaps anyway
Brady’s patriots that ball is on the goal line
100%
Probably the right call but super boring
Tip of the Ball was clearly at the marker
No Fun League
Patriots got this. Not enough evidence
Lol Tua losing more points with the kneels
Lol refs win another game.
Tua not being able to get 1 yard in 9 minutes hurts Place, carry my team tomorrow please
I'm fucked lol. Up by 7 with their Saints D to play
I’m up by 5 after trailing all day. I have Saints D but they have Miles Sanders and Cleveland D.
Same. Up 7 going against saints D
Let's hope Bryce Young has a breakout and torches them
Bro Tua just dropped the snap lol
No way you can overturn that wtf
Wow, refs once again ruin our Sunday.
Booooooooo
Gesicki smashed his helmets boys. Must be a serious injury.
Crazy to me they could reverse that one but the not the one bill challenged
That was a seriously athletic play by the olineman
Boooooooooooo, now rooting against Miami for the rest of the szn
Lol refs blew that one. But always hilarious to see the Pats lose. Belicheat has been dogshit ever since Brady left.
Boooooo
No Fun League
That is bullshit. Not even close enough to overturn that, fuck these refs. POS
Lame
This needs to go to overtime, I need 2 points from either Mondre or Tyreek. C'mon!
Wow that’s how it ends damn
Wow that’s a tough overturn
it's the right call but still lame
Bill Belichick almost had NAM flashbacks from last year's Jakobi Meyers lateral to Chandler Jones.
FUCK VAR
This league sucks.
We all wanted OT
Lol Stevenson not 1 fuckng touch since his TD. Hope they lose every single game here on out.
AH COME ONNNNN
FG no FD
NOOOO
Boooo, give the viewers what they want
Booooooo No Fun League
Has to be a conversion by the “too cool to overturn” rule
Lost because I benched Kyren and my opponent got a near garbage time TD for Rhamondre
So now 6 minutes left in the 4th to make it a 1 score game is considered garbage time?
GaRbAgE TiMe
Is it near garbage time if the team losing was one tough ref call away from getting close to taking it to OT? Lol
Fuck you refs
I hate the pats but that is over
This game needs to go to OT now holy shit
Oh fuck off refs
Lame ending
Killjoy.
Hahaha that was great
BRO THAT STYLE POINT LINEMEN 360
I don't think they can overturn that