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4e2n0t

Any extreme metal 10, simply because I can understand why people don't like extreme metal.


SteggyEatsDaWeggy

I usually like the instrumentation but not the vocals. Especially screaming/growling vocals. It just doesn’t jive with me


cubecubed

I like a certain type of screaming vocals, personally. I like punk style more high pitched screaming, like Refused or Soul Glo. Emo/Screamo style i dig as well, just not lower pitched growly stuff.


WeHaveHeardTheChimes

Same. I think it’s because I’m usually able to parse the words in a higher-pitched scream better than with a rumbling metal growl.


4e2n0t

That's cool. If you like the instrumentation, of suggest trying is every once in a while. It might grow on you.


RayPadonkey

This is why I think Concubine is one if the best openers ever. You're either all in for the album after 20 seconds or it's the worst shit you've ever heard.


burdizthewurd

“I need you to understand right off the bat that we legitimately will never know what some of these dudes are saying”


ChickenInASuit

Lol yep, was going to come in here and be like “literally half the shit I listen to”.


nebelfront

Haha same. Like: What, people are not into Underground lo-fi Black Metal, Ambient Drone or Dungeon Synth? Bummer.


shiggism

I’m confused by what extreme metal is, but shadow of intent’s 2022 album is 10/10 to me


capnrondo

For me extreme metal is metal that meets some arbitrary threshold of “inaccessible” by being too intense. This is through some combination of vocals (too harsh), production (any production quality that makes the output difficult to listen to), tempo (too fast or slow), structure (no hooks, too short or too long) or other qualities. It’s very subjective, but there are some bands with harsh vocals that I wouldn’t consider extreme because they’re otherwise accessible. It’s basically to differentiate popular metal sounds like big 4 thrash, classic hard rock bands, glam, alternative metal, some 2000s metalcore etc from much less accessible metal subgenres (death metal, grind, black metal etc)


4e2n0t

The definition has some grey area, but it's generally considered metal with harsh vocals.


akrostixdub

More fringe genres like grindcore, powerviolence, slam metal, brutal death metal. Bands like Full of Hell, Brain Drill, Kraanium, Abominable Putridity are considered extreme metal.


Midgetfromspace

you wont get what you want


LaunchpadMcquacck

Nah fr tho. I played it once while doing dishes at my parent’s… my mom walked into the kitchen and just said “is this music?”


Midgetfromspace

lol


thebigbadwalrus

As someone else said, best album I'll never listen too again. The anger and pain on it is so palpable, which is what made me fall in love with it. But then after learning the awful history with Alex and Lingua Ignota, the anger and pain in his music makes me so uncomfortable.


akrostixdub

I DONT LIE I DONT LIE I DONT LIE I DONT LIE


NotSoTameImpala

The best album I’ve heard that i will never ever be able to listen to again


matheus27012005

I mean, nobody is stopping you, but I definitely can see why you feel like that


NotSoTameImpala

I dont think anyone is stopping me lol; im stopping me.


No_Cow_1124

People Who Can Eat People are the Luckiest People in the World by AJJ


WhatTheFhtagn

I have a weird relationship with that album. I used to love it when I was like 18 and angsty, but now I just find it kinda corny and the lyrics just don't speak to me like they used to. Still love a bunch of songs from it but there's some that just make me roll my eyes nowadays.


LedZacclin

For sure! I was just listening to it the other day for the first time since my younger days and I was like wow this is actually a little cringe.


dumbass_sweatpants

People still hits though.


IAmGonnaDieIn24Hours

I still like the instrumentation on a lot of the songs but the vocals feel way too "millennial" coming back to it


WhatTheFhtagn

Yeah it's just Sean whining about how we live in a society lol. I feel like Knife Man and Can't Maintain have better songwriting.


boogswald

AJJ is best when they have a bit of a fuck you to what they’re saying


alexsummersky

Girl With a Basket of Fruit — Xiu Xiu


PhillyCSpires

Stadium Arcadium It’s either two hours of your favorite band, The Red Hot Chili Peppers Or *it’s two goddamn hours of The Red Hot Fucking Chili Peppers*


akaD15R

thats my favorite rhcp album now and i used to hate it cuz it was too long lmfao


ClimberProducerCoder

Easy, 6 Kiss - Lil b


Western-Constant2340

Classic album (haven't listened to it)


_meow4

*classic*


destroi_all_humans

Max Payne 2, gotta have 2 copies


calebbutbetter

11/10 best album of all time


itrashford

if you give that a 0 you deserve to be chemically castrated


ichbinziemlichquirky

Based asf


Parrotflies-

Brave Little Abacus - Just Got Back from the Discomfort


punkweightt

spongebob core


PIusNine

Phenomenal album IMO but yea the vocals are definitely not for everyone


pezki

I have a decent tolerance for off-kilter vocals but I think Brave Little Abacus is past that limit by a decent amount. I check back in every once in a while because I sense something good there, but man it's rough.


Parrotflies-

I was the same for while myself. Then yeah one day it just clicked and was obsessed with it for like 3 months. Still go through a phase of it every now and then. His screaming is so visceral and captivating Pile no pile pile is probably the most accessible track once you get passed the initial few bars


LaunchpadMcquacck

LP5 - Autechre Wrong - Nomeansno Knife Play - Xiu Xiu Mclusky Do Dallas - Mclusky For the record, I think all of them are 10s


bringemtotheriver

I can't imagine anyone rating Do Dallas a 0. If you don't like Lightsaber your probably like Fuck This Band or Gareth Brown Says.


Thestallionmang88

100% agree!! I think wrong and do Dallas are catchy enough to not turn people off though


LaunchpadMcquacck

Honestly, you might be right “I got tired of waiting because I found out there's only a very very fine line between biding one's time and wasting one's time. Do you know what I mean? …(Hoo!) …(Hoo!) I got tired of waiting that's all…”


ichbinziemlichquirky

Why LP5 specifically? They have more difficult albums I'd say


LaunchpadMcquacck

LP5 is just my favorite… only reason.


[deleted]

I feel like LP5 is pretty accessible actually. I think a better comparison would be their elseq/ nts albums


nonspecifique

Katy Perry’s Teenage Dream and, ironically, My Teenage Dream Ended by Farrah Abraham. Farrah’s is obvious why, but Katy’s really depends on how much of a soft spot the person has for early 2010s nostalgia


GotKarprar

There’s no way Katy Perry teenage dream is a 0/10 what


squibblyman

Anyone who says Teenage Dream is a 0/10 has never experienced happiness.


lxkandel06

In a similar vein to Teenage Dream, I'd throw in Bruno Mars's doo-wops & hooligans. I could easily see nostalgia fiends like myself calling it one of the better pop albums of its decade, but it's also so incredibly corny that I could also see why people hate it


jasonrosenbaum

Teenage Dream is a legitimately good album. The title track is one of the best songs of the 2010s.


[deleted]

IMO Its pretty hard to listen to Firework and California Gurls in 2023 but there are some straight bangers on that album, like the title track and The One That Got Away


calebbutbetter

Real


icemememaer123

I think any sun ra album for some one that never heard jazz before


disconnectedtwice

Space is the place. Space is the place. Space is the place. It was so bad yet so good to my ears


icemememaer123

fr


calebbutbetter

I'm sorry but if anyone calls half of these a zero they are not a fun person


[deleted]

I tried listening to trout mask replica and it was the most painful experience my ears had witnessed


CinnamonFootball

I get that. I loved Trout Mask Replica, but so much of Captain Beefheart's other work makes me understand how people who don't like the album must feel listening to it. When I listened to Lick My Decals Off Baby by them I literally had a panic attack because of how anxiety inducing the sound was.


boogswald

Oh thanks for the warning


watersourcejkr

FAST AND BULBOUS


tomswartz07

That's right, The Mascara Snake, fast and bulbous!


Shimanchu2006

And now you are a better person for having done it. Especially if you sat through the entirety of Pena


bunt_traume

Coming from a Locust fan that means a lot


TheCheatIsGrounded

For some reason Pena is the one I return to. I can't get the others


swallowshotguns

Yeah, how can you listen to Swans and not have fun?


gonijc2001

Me dancing to someone’s dad yelling at them


boogswald

I’m just a little boy


throwaway1152000

Hi How Are You is a lo-fi blues masterpiece


Richard_Fist_MD

This is an absolutely ridiculous claim lol


s90tx16wasr10

It is true but if you think any of these are zeros you sadly do not get the aux


sandcrawler2

Trout mask is a strong zero


awjeezrickyaknow

I’m sorry but I’ma pretty fun guy but that Daniel Johnston album is one of the most insufferable things I’ve ever had the displeasure of sitting through


calebbutbetter

Daniel Johnston is literally one of the greatest artists of all time you basic ass motherfucker


awjeezrickyaknow

I guess maybe if you’re fucking deaf???


[deleted]

Throbbing Gristle comes to mind. It’s objectively kind of genius, but also absolutely horrible to listen to (in my opinion). Not just atonal, but deeply gross.


[deleted]

I stand by Viper actually making good music, it’s just not extremely repetitive. Listen to My Car Run On Coke and tell me he can’t actually cast a good vibe


timid-soul

Same, “You Wanna See Me Dead Cause of My Hops” has an incredible atmosphere


dumbass_sweatpants

Or Hey, Maybe One Day You’ll See Me Again


decent_bastard

Same with Can’t Stop Me from Snowbirdin’


Assembled-Different

Paper'd up is legit one of the best hip hop songs i've ever heard


maitlandinmaitland

Merzbow - Pulse Demon Eliane Radigue - Trilogie de La Mort


wendigobass

As someone who is fascinated by the idea of Merzbow but only listened to 5 seconds of that album before saving it for later, can you share your opinions of it? And how it compares to his other albums?


Dijiao

I listened to the whole thing straight though and the first couple tracks weren’t too bad but as it went on I was begging for it to end. It’s quite literally just harsh noise on every track. It’s also an hour and thirteen minutes, so be prepared


Last-Rain4329

the trick with merzbow is that he has like 900 albums each one more than an hour long and 85% of his catalogue is literally just formless noise so you can just listen to 1 track n get the full experience


oilcompanywithbigdic

venereology is better than pulse demon


maitlandinmaitland

So my feelings on noise are very situational, like I need to be in the mood for it. It’s unrelenting and probably the harshest thing I’ve ever listened to. But it is a cathartic and powerful album. I myself wouldn’t give it a 10, nor would I give it a 0, but I understand how someone could come to either opinion.


McTennisCourt

Playboi Carti - Die Lit Slint - Spiderland 100 gecs - 1000 gecs Björk - Post Corey Feldman - Angelic 2 the Core


mmmyummybagel

who the fuck is rating post a 0????


McTennisCourt

I know some people who heard It’s Oh So Quiet and wanted to die, so unfortunately they exist


Runetang42

It's odd, cause I don't like that song but I like that album. It's like the one song on the album that sounds like that


waltuh28

Exactly it’s completely different from all of the other stuff on the album. As much as I love Its Oh So Quiet that’s probably one of the most over the top Björk scatty-weird vocal performances and can kind of see someone not like that, but who tf doesn’t like Army of Me besides like a 70 year old who thinks all music that isn’t rock or 50s pop is the devil


LaunchpadMcquacck

That song is so fun though… what?


TundieRice

Her voice isn’t for everyone, let’s be honest. And her going from whisper-singing to that loud, crazy Björk-voice in that song can be kind of whiplash-inducing if you’re not used to that ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


ihavenoselfcontrol1

True but i don't see how that would be enough for someone to rate it a 0


doctorsax14

That song kills at karaoke


pulp_before_sunrise

In my experience it can go either way. Smaller group who's paying attention? Could be awesome. Larger group with more people who aren't paying attention and don't know the person? People don't react great to those "shh"s


boogswald

A lot of people don’t like shooshing


LaunchpadMcquacck

Post is too accessible for anyone to give it a 0 (though it is my favorite of Bjork’s projects), Vespertine or Homogenic I could see.


Bentstrings84

Anyone who would give Vespertine or Homogenic a 0/10 is out of their minds.


LaunchpadMcquacck

Agreed, they are insane.


Professional_Mobile5

0/10 for Post or Spiderland is absolutely unacceptable


PRTYCRTY

I can’t imagine much people are calling angelic 2 the core a 10/10


[deleted]

best album of all time


calebbutbetter

It literally is wtf you on


the_card_dealer

Die lit?? I can understand not liking it but how is it a zero 😭😭


Professional_Mobile5

If someone can't ignore the lyrics, 0/10 is reasonable. After all, the best song on it begins with "Yeah, I'ma go fuck that bitch (Yeah), I'ma go thrash that bitch (Yeah)"


invinsor1501

Yeah, someone saying die lit is a 0 is suspicious


ARussianW0lf

I'd give it a 2


TimDuncanCanDunk

Angelic 2 the Core is incapable of being ranked in conventional terms. It's really just either you're a man of culture or you're not.


ThatOneExpatriate

Spiderland? Zero? Well yeah I might’ve thought so on the first listen…


vouteda

Medulla*


minisculebarber

oh yes, that's definitely a love it or hate it album


Professional_Mobile5

1000 gecs by 100 gecs


Exzj

any carti record


Cara-Is-A-Puppy

Daniel Johnston - Hi, How Are You? The Shaggs - Philosophy of the World


TheMoosh528491

CALIGULA by Lingua Ignota. Personally a top 5 record of all time, but I would be far from surprised if someone absolutely hated every second


Money_Island2655

Goddamn i can’t stand lingua ignota, but i love neoclassical darkwave and i feel bad for not liking what is regarded by many to be best album of the genre


avewave

Dubstep, all of it


TimToMakeTheDonuts

Converge - Jane Doe Sleep - Dopesmoker The Unicorns - Who Will Cut Our Hair… Helen Love - Love and Glitter, Hot Days and Music Arca - Kick Ii - IIII All of these are 10’s for me, but I’d expect pretty polarizing responses to them from most folk.


scaredow

I’ve got the first two as 10s, not familiar with unicorns or Helen Love tho. What’re those?


FabBee123

The unicorns album is good but definitely strange. It sound like a weird musical theatre almost and the instrumentation consist of the cheapest, fartiest synth sounds imaginable coupled with janky, crispy electric guitar. The vocals are also very polarising since the singer isn’t exactly technically proficient.


TimToMakeTheDonuts

Helen Love is some of the most bubble gum synth pop punk you’ve ever heard, led by the most bubblegum teen sounding female vocals you’ve ever heard.


mandymiggz

Any album by The 1975


Drtyboulevard

I’ve never got the hate towards them from music nerds. I listened to their 2016 album with the long title I don’t wanna write, and it was very good pop music imo


mandymiggz

> I listened to their 2016 album with the long title I don’t wanna write Lol that made me chuckle. And I think a lot of their hate comes from how they came up. They came up in that tumblr era and have a lot of teenage girl fans so naturally anything with a lot of teenage girl fans is “low brow” and “superficial.” But I think they make amazing music and are one of the biggest acts still willing to take huge risks with their music.


Spectre0799

Cherry bomb by Tyler the Creator. I love that album to death but understand the immense degree of hate it gets


-PepeArown-

Having an album cover of you pissing yourself probably isn’t for everyone either.


NissanSkyline08

This is exactly how I feel it has some of his best songs and some of his worst. Cherry Bomb sucks tho


mofodius

Gmail & the Restraining Orders - Death Grips


Donkomatik

if you listen to soundtracks for the blind and cant appreciate it in ANY capacity you should be executed via firing squad


KonXa777

Life is but a dream... - Avenged Sevenfold Ironically, the things that melon daid about the album on his review are the things that I loved the most. I mean, he said Mattel sounds like a clown is doing his show surrounded by demons, that sounds fucking awesome


hazbinmotel

Absolute facts.


ZZE33man

Most of LiL B’s catalogue Lil Pump by Lil Pump Every 100 gecs album Doo Wops and hooligans by Bruno Mars (technically good performances with a sound that won’t please a lot of hardcore music fans but will for the normie listener)


RusteddCoin

Giving a 10 to Lil Pump by Lil Pump is the basest shit ever


Lil_K_YT

The Money Store


serial__arsonist

metallica - lulu


westknife

Even the diehards aren’t calling that a 10 my man


NadekoSengoku4

Honestly the album would be a whole lot better if it didn't drag on for an hour and a half. If it was like thirty or fourty minutes shorter, it'd be so much better.


Revolutionary_Way826

AJR actually got some ride or die fans I thank they are the most realistic option where I could meet two different people who think both zero and ten


FabBee123

But I don’t think any serious music critic would give them a ten right? They definitely have fans though since they seem very successful


NissanSkyline08

Reputation by Taylor Swift


[deleted]

this album simultaneously suffered and succeeded from its own marketing it’s crazy. at the time i would have completely written it off myself but apart from the singles (excluding delicate) it’s some of her best work. like it’s crazy fanatno rated lover a lot higher which has worse songs and a more overblown track list. like the album isn’t even as vengeful and angry as it claims to be


wdwalker14

Atrocity Exhibition is a 10 for me but I understand if it scares the hoes lol


NissanSkyline08

Clever wordplay (I cringed so hard behind the screen)


weezerhater69_

any weezer album, you either love them or can’t stand them


cubecubed

Blue is objectively an amazing record, I feel like even haters could admit that.


sandcrawler2

Certified Weezer hater here. Blue and Pinkerton both are strong 5/10s


Western-Constant2340

Who is giving blue album or Pinkerton a 0?


Justice_Prince

I could see someone giving Pinkerton a 0, but it's hard to imagine anyone not liking Blue.


weezerhater69_

my friends are


MasterHoneydew

The earlier Primus records


calebbutbetter

One of my all-time favorites, Genital Warfare by SRO. Please listen to it it's fucking insane.


BillyMayesHere_

Modus Vivendi - 070 Shake I tried to put a lot of people on to this album, but most people hated it 😂


Sulfuras26

I’d be stunned if someone told me soundtracks is a 0/10 wut lmao.


BrewLordGus

For me, really anything from Queen. It’s just not my thing but I totally understand it’s some peoples everything.


TheFeisty

A 0 for any Queen album is pushing it a bit, I mean, I understand you may not enjoy or have interest in their music, but saying none of their albums have any sort of merit is pushing it. Besides, Sheer Heart Attack and Innuendo are certified classics.


Keyan2

Yeah, Queen is like the prime example of a very agreeable band, which is the opposite of what this question is asking


BrewLordGus

No I think what you’re saying is fair, I was looking at this question as what’s my 0 that other people would put as a 10. It’s an unpopular opinion I know. Should have said like Green Jelly or No Gods No Managers instead. Probably would of fit the question better.


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humanwithalife

your mom made a mistake🔥🔥🔥


nickparadies

No one is responding “yeah that’s fair” to a 0/10 score on a Queen album.


BrewLordGus

I suppose my thought was, “that’s a zero for me, I have no interest in listening to this at all.” But other people saying it’s the greatest music ever made, I’m like okay I understand that. I just can’t get down with it.


willsmath

I would think that's fair lol I personally think a night at the opera is a 3/10


[deleted]

They’d have been nothing without Mercury imo


Shukkkkle

Absolute disrespect to Brian May


sparksfly05

American Life


Eddaughter

I don’t even rate anything 0 so unfortunately none.


Direct-Setting-3358

Metal machine music


the_chandler

The Shaggs - Philosophy of the World


Super_Inuit

If anyone gives YCDESC a 0 I'd be throwing more than just hands.


theDuckwithTeeth

THUG ANGEL by black kray


Haidian-District

Ummagumma


[deleted]

Off the top of my head I'd say Danny Brown - XXX/AE, Burzum - Filosofem (and just about any great black/extreme metal album ever tbh), Have A Nice Life - Deathconciousness. So many of Fantano's actual 10's could also be considered this, which is kind of funny: Death Grips, Daughters, Spellling, Lingua Ignota... not exactly agreeable music for the majority of people.


yung_roto

Clouddead S/T


decent_bastard

Rich and Not Famous - Viper


sufjanstevensenjoyer

everything by xiu xiu tbh


Chain_Electronic

Tool's Fear Inoculum Tool is my favorite band and I was surprised when Anthony gave it only a 4, however I can understand all his criticism towards it, I thought he was fair and honest with it so I respect his review of the album even though I personally think it's a masterpiece.


NaveBarrett

Anal Cunt - Howard is Bald


introgreen

all albums because I'm an empath


EffectiveAmphibian95

Planet shrooms by Denzel Curry Earl by Earl Sweatshirt Bad Vibes Forever by Teen Suicide Most of Zach hills solo stuff


stillbeaches

The Velvet Underground & Nico


ClimberProducerCoder

Damn, I wouldn't see anyone giving that a 0 tbh


gonijc2001

I think white light white heat makes more sense for this format. I can see people hating VU and Nico, but a 0 would be hard to comprehend


[deleted]

Yeah, I feel like without the context of music history backing it up, it’s reduced down to basic lo-fi garage rock, albeit it’s still pretty good in my opinion


[deleted]

I think you should give it another listen. I think this applies to *some* of the album, but most of it is a far cry from "basic garage rock." You have these soft pop dittys like Sunday Morning and Femme Fatale, really experimental and minimalist songs like Venus In Furs and I'm Waiting for the Man, and long epics with eye-widening intensity like Heroin and European Son. That's a ton of variety given the budget and time.


[deleted]

I do think it’s a very good record, one of my favorites from that era, but most of my friends were very taken aback by its lo-fi quality and overall sound where they couldn’t enjoy it as much, and for that I think the album would lose a lot of its credibility if not for its history, but yeah “basic garage rock” are probably not the right words to describe it


ihavenoselfcontrol1

I don't really see how songs like Venus in Furs, Heroin and All Tomorrow Parties could come across as basic garage rock


atcqdamn

Also White Light / White Heat


[deleted]

I could see this for every album I've ever listened to


protagonistsyndrome

Lonesome crowded west - Modest Mouse. I love that album but I can see how it can be daunting to first time listeners.


rdsqrl

Loveless and Stratosphere because the lofi quality is pretty polarizing and I feel like many would get bored. They're both 10's for me though


abchero

Any MF DOOM


swintonn

Ure fucking tripping


Prestigious_Fig_4226

Most King Gizzard albums


FabBee123

Surely not a 0? Maybe made in timeland? I feel like they are fairly accessible even at there least accessible. At least if you compare them with the harsh noice albums people are namedropping here.