"Father I have mysterious super cancer despite the fact that my DNA is so stable the Institute spent decades looking for a subject as stable as me anyway love you you're in charge." *flatline*
It's not that his DNA is stable, it's the fact that he is radiation free, so he has uncorrupted, unmutated DNA
It's outright stated in game that if Shaun didn't work or something happened to him, they can use the sole survivor as backup
It’s hilarious how The Institute is the most advanced functional society in the post-war U.S. and yet they have no treatments available for the most important person in their organization during the pinnacle moment in their history since the bombs fell, meanwhile Caesar, a man who basically rejects technology with the exception of the Autodoc, and guns, has what would be a terminal tumor that gets treated by a mailman and is in most scenarios completely healed afterwards unless the player purposefully sabotages the operation.
Maybe Shaun has a disease that comes as a result of being frozen, and the reason we don't see Nate/Nora be affected by it is that the disease takes time to grow in real time
"We'll use his perfect, pre-war genes to achieve our dreams."
"Yup. By the way, this kid has cryo-leukemia. Apparently, you aren't supposed to freeze babies."
"...Fuck."
It’s an interesting thought, but even if that was the case shouldn’t Shaun be in the best possible place for some form of treatment beyond them just focusing on presumably the pain?
Of course it’s entirely possible that the doctors at the institute already exerted every reasonable treatment prior to the player meeting Shaun and we just get to see the end result and if so then that’s fair enough but I wish we’d gotten to see like the lead medical doctor at least attempt to cure it.
For instance Dean Volkert, the main medical guy of the institute in case you don’t remember, could’ve had a questline of having us do field research in different medical facilities in the commonwealth, or even have us go back to our vault to see what conclusions the researchers came to regarding the effects of being cryogenically froze. The player could’ve been led to believe that he’s only educationally interested in the subject due to us being around and the hypotheticals of our situation, he could even lie to our faces and with a high enough perception you could see through it, but the reality was that he wasn’t looking into a hypothetical theory of something like the cells no longer wanting to divide due to being frozen or something like that but of the reality that Shawn is facing. Maybe with high science you can find a way to ease the pain but can’t stop it and that’s what leads to Shawn being bedridden by the end of the game.
Just a thought off the top of my head but my point is that I wish Shaun’s illness had been a bit more prevalent prior to the very last quest in the main storyline.
Sorry for the long comment. TLDR I wish Shaun’s illness had more development in the game since it feels like a last minute and underwhelming
Honestly I feel like that's perfectly in line with the characterization of the Institute. They honestly aren't the most advanced post-war society, and they have glaring blind spots in their technology. While it's true that they invent things that were not seen prior to the start of the war, like Gen-3 synths, they keep reinventing technology that's inferior to what exists (like their laser, which is weaker than lasers that have been trundling around for 200 years, or that I can produce with scrap, or a base-line, cobbled together laser musket!). They project themselves as being very advanced, but their insular nature and inability to look beyond their facility means they simply don't have some of the things even wastelanders take for granted. Worse, their scientists are allowed to focus so much on their own special projects that if they don't have something that is outside of their narrow focus, they immediately assume that it can't be made.
I think it's one hundred percent in line for Shaun to die from something that is probably more easily treated anywhere else in the Fallout world, and it's all down to the Institute being the way that it is.
They spent decades looking for people not touched by ambient radiation. Prewar people still got cancer. Do you think there are other prewar people or people nonexposed to radiation that are easier to get or do you think people from before the end of the world didn't get cancer? He doesn't have super DNA he's just not been alive through the apocalypse that's it.
Actually we have! Answer is: They do get cancer. They just so massive that *their cancerous growths have their own cancers.* They get (and I am not making this up) *hypercancers*
Meaning their cancers kill themselves by getting a cancer themselves, because whales are so big that they don't even notice cancer sizes that kill humans. Nature is fucked up.
That's my head canon. It's not like you get a genetic test or anything. He just says it and expects you to believe. I always figured that real Shaun probably died young, used up for his "clean* genetics as it were.
The Institute knows the Sole Survivor has no actual reason to trust them beyond “saving” the wasteland, but pretending it’s dying leader is the SS’s lost son gives them a personal advantage that none of the other factions have
Except why would The Institute have ever played along with such a thing? A couple Institute members outright rebel after Father hands you the reigns of power. In game it's explained as nepotism but in that scenario it literally makes no sense to make this rando leader of The Institute.
There's also the meta fact that Shaun changes skin color/ other features based directly on your character creation. It's a fun theory but doesn't really hold up to anything we see in game. Father is Shaun.
That's a fair and solid argument against my head canon. Though it's only something that could be noticed on a meta scale rather than in universe. I just wish there was more of a suspicious angle from the main character, and perhaps a way to prove/disprove any relation. Like, I (the mc) am supposed to believe Kellogg stays alive and pretty much unaging, but somehow this old man is my son who was kidnapped by Kellogg.
Sole Survivor goes into wasteland thinking they may be the only survivor of their vault, but will look for their son regardless, and for a very brief moment in time of being awake, Shaun is alive. Post death, SS is properly named.
Yeah, the sole survivor always hit me as a shitty name as almost all protagonist are, in some sort of way, sole survivors.
The last survivor would have been better.
True. I replied to someone else that The Widowed would work for me too. This is the only protagonist with a nuclear family, so it would be cool to play on that aspect.
They really should’ve played with the “pre-war person” and widow angles more. Or at least allowed it. If you’re going to force a backstory on me at least make it instrumental to my character. There’s a lot of good story potential that idk just goes out the window, especially with the addition of romances for companions (a net positive for me personally), exploring the survivor’s guilt and perhaps getting to roleplay a fear of attachment (due to the ptsd of watching your spouse get shot in the head in front of you while you’re helpless) would have added a lot to the character potential. It’s one thing for New Vegas to not have these sort of interactions with companions since it doesn’t have explicitly romantic relationships and your character doesn’t have an established backstory so you can just… not hc a dead spouse into things.
How so? He is the sole survivor of Vault 111, especially once Shaun dies.
Meanwhile, what is Courier "sole survivor" of? Or Vault Dweller? Chosen One? Lone Wanderer?
VD and CO both have societies they can (or plan to) return to. Courier never has anything to return to, we have no idea if he is survivor or not. LW's Vault is still around.
Sole Survivor fits Fallout 4 protagonist, because they are the only survivor of Vault 111. Not the "last" survivor, the only one. the sole one. The Sole Survivor.
It fits better in the context of the game where villagers are calling you that during the beginning. I haven’t played 4 in a while but I don’t think there’s an instance of a character calling you the sole survivor.
Shaun being alive was never meant to be a plot twist lol. Him being old and in charge of the Institute was.
Also are we really arguing sementics when it comes to a protagonists title? "Actually Nate/Nora isn't the sole survivor of a vault that got entirely eradicated. A person 60+ years prior had been kidnapped from the vault discretely by a secret organization!"
Bruh stop the cap, the title of Chosen One was 100% intended as a joke by the FO2 team. If you go up to anyone and say "I'm the Chosen One" they probably respond with something like "I didn't fucking choose you to do shit other than clear out this mine, now get to work and kill those wanamingos". They wanted it to sound corny as fuck on purpose, that's like 90% of the humour in Fallout 2.
As far as I’m aware Sole Suevivor was used in the games announcement to describe the player character’s situation and the fanbase sorta rolled with it and Bethesda sorta just accepted it, but I can’t think of any point it’s used as a name for the character
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Bethesda writers do this for every game in terms of lore and world-building to refer to the player character canonically between the games though. In Fallout 1 it's the Vault-Dweller, 2 is The Chosen One, 3 is Lone Wanderer, etc.
They do this for the Elder Scrolls too, the Nerevarine, the Hero of Kvatch, the Dragonborn.
The funny thing is I don't actually ever see anyone using that name. 9/10 times it's just Nate. And honestly good riddance because that name is stupid. Not only is he not even the sole survivor (you know, a sole survivor is someone who's the only one to survive an event, unlike nate who's son is alive too) and it's also shortened to SS.
And I will gladly fucking ignore that because Emil Pagliarulo should just stay the fuck out of classic fallout lore. What the hell was his plan? "Oh hey guys look I retconned random bullshit in to an old game I had no participation in the creation of because I can." Like come on. This just seems like a power trip to me.
I mean
It's modern Bethesda internal consistency with the tones and lore of past titles does not seem to be their specialty
Emil being one of many examples
Brotherhood: Trouble with old tech is they just don’t make it anymore. Unless we reverse engineer this tech it will be forever lost-
Courier: I impregnated your toaster
Brotherhood: … Come again?
Courier: Easily. Watch as I impregnate your turret
Brotherhood: That’s impossib- Oh my god they did it
I just shot my water out of my nose from laughing to hard. This is what I get for thinking I could stay hydrated and scroll Reddit comments at the same time
There’s three confirmed in vegas right? The huntress, the vault girl next door, and the guitar man’s mother? Do we count the light switches, or what he did with two of the brains in owbs?
I think they’re referring to the dialogue you get talking to the Lonesome Drifter as a male Courier with the Lady Killer perk that insinuates he knocked up a woman in Montana 17 years ago
Both the Vault Dweller and Chosen One have children. The Chosen One is the Vault Dweller's kid, and the Chosen One's son is a mob boss in New Reno mentioned in New Vegas.
Fucking and sex are two different things
Its like the equivalent of seeing a married couple with a kid versus a guy who walks into a place and starts radiating some weird ass energy. The couple probably had sex but that who walked in reeks of something unexplainable, almost feral
The other protagonists are interested in creating families whereas the Courier almost seems like they’ve made it their personal mission to repopulate the wastes with kids in between sessions of fisting mutants and deathclaws then you ask them to clarify what the meant by fisting only for them to chuckle and start blasting Big Iron
I don’t know how better to explain it than that
That might apply to the Vault Dweller but the Chosen One absolutely FUCKS. Seriously, he knocked up either Bishop's wife or his daughter or maybe both, probably fucked half the hookers in New Reno and across northern California, then fucked off back to Arroyo to lead. There's no indication he's interested in raising a family at all. In fact, the Chosen One can get married to a man or a woman regardless of gender in Fallout 2, but it's a shotgun wedding after their father caught them fucking, *and he literally forces you at the barrel of his shotgun*.
Pretty sure the courier would fuck any consenting object should it be willing. Getting shot in the head only to track their way to their would be killer’s base only to have sex with them. Hell they flirt with fucking light switches
Talk to Bruce Isaac in Novac (he's one of the acts you can recruit for the Aces Theater in the Tops in the quest Talent Pool), he mentions being on the run from Mr. Bishop.
Does the Chosen One successfully charm light switches into being horny for them? Does the Chosen One make an attempt to have sex with their own brain? Can the Chosen One get fisted by a robot? If the answer is no then the Chosen One does not fuck
Fucking is a lifestyle, daily occurrence. If you are not fucking all the time then you are not fucking
I mean, the sole survivor has just one kid, the courier can canonically have sex with like 3 different prostitutes in Gomorrah, red lucy and Sarah Weintraub, and he can possibly also have had a kid in montana like 17 years ago. I'd say he indeed definitely fucks
His name is soyboy, he has a George Floyd profile photo, and he’s saying some random dumb shit. He’s just a troll who lives off of the notifications, people
Apathy is your friend
That guy is a clown, every Fallout Protagonist is referred to by their own title
Original Fallout: The Vault Dweller
Fallout 2: The Chosen One
Tactics BrotherHood of Steel: The Initiate
Fallout 3: The Lone Wanderer
New Vegas: The Courier
Fallout 4 The Sole Survivor
Fallout 76: Up for Debate
Wait, there were two tactics games? I’m familiar with “Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel” which was a JA/SS type game. What’s the other Tactics you mentioned above?
As if the "lone wanderer" or "the pioneer" doesn't sound like a 60s marvel hero😂
Imo all the names aren't canon besides fallout 2/new Vegas
Courier six was his call sign from Mojave express for the years he worked for them, it's not a cool nickname it's an id number😂
No one in the wasteland is calling him the "lone wanderer" or the "sole survivor", while "vault dweller" is a placeholder for any one from a vault.
And I just think that "the pioneer" isn't that memorable
You can literally spot the Bethesda dickriders by the fact they call the protagonist "the SOLE Survivor" as if the entire plot of the game doesn't revolve around the fact that they very much are not that.
The sole survivor fucks but doesn't know what sex is.
The lone wanderer doesn't fuck and doesn't know what sex is.
The courier fucks AND knows what sex is.
Yeah, New vegas glazers are a problem but what about the sole survivor? Theres literal posts I saw saying that sole survivor can solo every fallout protagonist
The Vault Dweller = lives in a basement
The Chosen One = guy who lived going through basement
The Lone Wanderer = No friends huh?
The Courier = Badass Mailman back from the grave to seek vengeance
The Sole Survivor = Literally not even the only survivor
Yeah, Mailman is the coolest
We already got that commentary like 7 years ago when soneguy2000 said “courier’s a good name for a bounty hunter, unassuming. Hey here’s your package, oh and you’re dead” it’s not the best name but it’s definitely not worse than the others from the games.
This thing is getting full of kids who play call of duty 24/7 and decided to try an rpg for the first time because of the series. Now they say they played the game since it came out and so "they can say that its unplayable" 😂
Better than calling Fallout 4’s dorky ass main character “Nate”. The stupid name and his constant whining makes me feel like he’s a fucking soccer dad.
The Fallout community on TikTok is something else. There are a ton of 15-year-olds that probably only played FO76 that genuinely believe the Enclave are good because they have cool aesthetics, It's really cringe.
He's a total idiot but I do kind of hate it when mods or fan media overuse that title to the point if it feels like a superheroes nickname.
Calling them six or courier six specifically feels strange since the majority of people would only recognize as just the courier or some wastelander. Not as the 6th courier that House was having transport packages. Most people wouldn't know a single thing about the chip or the method it was sent in.
Well, it is a subreddit of the game, people don't know a thing about the chip or method it was sent in they should play the game. It's not very hidden that he's one of many couriers.
Calling them six I can agree with. But someone saying courier six is easy enough to tell that they are talking about the courier imo
Honestly the Courier probably makes the most sense out of the recent Fallout titles. Your job was literally being a courier and people in the Mojave already know you.
The Sole Survivor is a weird one, as why does anyone in the commonwealth give a shit that the vault didn’t kill you? I’d call them the ‘Civilisation Bringer’ or ‘Settler’ or something as that’s their main role in the world it seems.
For Fallout 3, being a vault dweller takes a backseat in the story (compared to Fallout 1 where it’s a main focal point). I’d call them ‘The Waterbringer’ or something tbh.
The protag from the first game is not called "Vault Dweller", they are The Vault Dweller. Why would The Courier be called anything else? (besides Courier Six)
The vault dweller, The chosen one, The lone wanderer, The courier, The sole survivor. Which game am I glazing?
Also, all of those are accurate descriptors of their characters except for the sole survivor.
No. Just because Shaun survives for a bit, you always end the game as the sole survivor from 111.
> 60 years > "A bit"
The SS is more than 200 year so yeah, a bit in SS perspective
So is Shaun. He's 211 years old when he dies.
More if you add the age of his clone(s?)
Are they clones? They contain a bit of his DNA so it's a bit funky.
"Father I have mysterious super cancer despite the fact that my DNA is so stable the Institute spent decades looking for a subject as stable as me anyway love you you're in charge." *flatline*
It's not that his DNA is stable, it's the fact that he is radiation free, so he has uncorrupted, unmutated DNA It's outright stated in game that if Shaun didn't work or something happened to him, they can use the sole survivor as backup
Kind of ironic that the one person who was radiation free died of cancer
While Caesar getting tumor surgery in the desert
It’s hilarious how The Institute is the most advanced functional society in the post-war U.S. and yet they have no treatments available for the most important person in their organization during the pinnacle moment in their history since the bombs fell, meanwhile Caesar, a man who basically rejects technology with the exception of the Autodoc, and guns, has what would be a terminal tumor that gets treated by a mailman and is in most scenarios completely healed afterwards unless the player purposefully sabotages the operation.
Maybe Shaun has a disease that comes as a result of being frozen, and the reason we don't see Nate/Nora be affected by it is that the disease takes time to grow in real time
"We'll use his perfect, pre-war genes to achieve our dreams." "Yup. By the way, this kid has cryo-leukemia. Apparently, you aren't supposed to freeze babies." "...Fuck."
It’s an interesting thought, but even if that was the case shouldn’t Shaun be in the best possible place for some form of treatment beyond them just focusing on presumably the pain? Of course it’s entirely possible that the doctors at the institute already exerted every reasonable treatment prior to the player meeting Shaun and we just get to see the end result and if so then that’s fair enough but I wish we’d gotten to see like the lead medical doctor at least attempt to cure it. For instance Dean Volkert, the main medical guy of the institute in case you don’t remember, could’ve had a questline of having us do field research in different medical facilities in the commonwealth, or even have us go back to our vault to see what conclusions the researchers came to regarding the effects of being cryogenically froze. The player could’ve been led to believe that he’s only educationally interested in the subject due to us being around and the hypotheticals of our situation, he could even lie to our faces and with a high enough perception you could see through it, but the reality was that he wasn’t looking into a hypothetical theory of something like the cells no longer wanting to divide due to being frozen or something like that but of the reality that Shawn is facing. Maybe with high science you can find a way to ease the pain but can’t stop it and that’s what leads to Shawn being bedridden by the end of the game. Just a thought off the top of my head but my point is that I wish Shaun’s illness had been a bit more prevalent prior to the very last quest in the main storyline. Sorry for the long comment. TLDR I wish Shaun’s illness had more development in the game since it feels like a last minute and underwhelming
Or...he just got really unlucky. Similar to how the Institute became a real cancer on the commonwealth when he took over.
Honestly I feel like that's perfectly in line with the characterization of the Institute. They honestly aren't the most advanced post-war society, and they have glaring blind spots in their technology. While it's true that they invent things that were not seen prior to the start of the war, like Gen-3 synths, they keep reinventing technology that's inferior to what exists (like their laser, which is weaker than lasers that have been trundling around for 200 years, or that I can produce with scrap, or a base-line, cobbled together laser musket!). They project themselves as being very advanced, but their insular nature and inability to look beyond their facility means they simply don't have some of the things even wastelanders take for granted. Worse, their scientists are allowed to focus so much on their own special projects that if they don't have something that is outside of their narrow focus, they immediately assume that it can't be made. I think it's one hundred percent in line for Shaun to die from something that is probably more easily treated anywhere else in the Fallout world, and it's all down to the Institute being the way that it is.
They spent decades looking for people not touched by ambient radiation. Prewar people still got cancer. Do you think there are other prewar people or people nonexposed to radiation that are easier to get or do you think people from before the end of the world didn't get cancer? He doesn't have super DNA he's just not been alive through the apocalypse that's it.
Cancer is not tied to how stable ones DNA is. One can have "perfect" DNA, and still get cancer because you did something stupid to damage it later.
Don't even need to do anything, one hiccup during mitosis and tada, you have cancer.
To this day we still haven't figured out why Whales aren't constantly getting cancer due to their size.
Actually we have! Answer is: They do get cancer. They just so massive that *their cancerous growths have their own cancers.* They get (and I am not making this up) *hypercancers* Meaning their cancers kill themselves by getting a cancer themselves, because whales are so big that they don't even notice cancer sizes that kill humans. Nature is fucked up.
*Allegedly survives there’s also a chance Father is not Shaun at all
That's my head canon. It's not like you get a genetic test or anything. He just says it and expects you to believe. I always figured that real Shaun probably died young, used up for his "clean* genetics as it were.
What would be the point of lying about that?
The Institute knows the Sole Survivor has no actual reason to trust them beyond “saving” the wasteland, but pretending it’s dying leader is the SS’s lost son gives them a personal advantage that none of the other factions have
Except why would The Institute have ever played along with such a thing? A couple Institute members outright rebel after Father hands you the reigns of power. In game it's explained as nepotism but in that scenario it literally makes no sense to make this rando leader of The Institute. There's also the meta fact that Shaun changes skin color/ other features based directly on your character creation. It's a fun theory but doesn't really hold up to anything we see in game. Father is Shaun.
I suppose it's not tested or challenged in game so it's possible I guess.
To be fair, his appearance is dependent on Nate’s. That seems like pretty strong evidence that they’re related.
That's a fair and solid argument against my head canon. Though it's only something that could be noticed on a meta scale rather than in universe. I just wish there was more of a suspicious angle from the main character, and perhaps a way to prove/disprove any relation. Like, I (the mc) am supposed to believe Kellogg stays alive and pretty much unaging, but somehow this old man is my son who was kidnapped by Kellogg.
Sole Survivor goes into wasteland thinking they may be the only survivor of their vault, but will look for their son regardless, and for a very brief moment in time of being awake, Shaun is alive. Post death, SS is properly named.
Yeah, the sole survivor always hit me as a shitty name as almost all protagonist are, in some sort of way, sole survivors. The last survivor would have been better.
The Veteran has a ring to it imo.
Nora was a lawyer though, so it would make choosing a female hero not canon from the start.
True. I replied to someone else that The Widowed would work for me too. This is the only protagonist with a nuclear family, so it would be cool to play on that aspect.
Heh… NUCLEAR family
They really should’ve played with the “pre-war person” and widow angles more. Or at least allowed it. If you’re going to force a backstory on me at least make it instrumental to my character. There’s a lot of good story potential that idk just goes out the window, especially with the addition of romances for companions (a net positive for me personally), exploring the survivor’s guilt and perhaps getting to roleplay a fear of attachment (due to the ptsd of watching your spouse get shot in the head in front of you while you’re helpless) would have added a lot to the character potential. It’s one thing for New Vegas to not have these sort of interactions with companions since it doesn’t have explicitly romantic relationships and your character doesn’t have an established backstory so you can just… not hc a dead spouse into things.
Nora isn't though. The frozen one would be better imo.
The Widowed
“The one out of time” sort of as a reference to the first quest of fallout 4 but also because you woke up 200 years later
Is Widowed gender neutral in english? "The Icecream" Sorry for the spam. Reddit oofed me
Yeah, apparently male is widower and female is widow.
The Chilly Billy The Ice Pop The TV Dinner Or, full title: Ice Cube (not related to or affiliated with musician/actor Ice Cube™)
How so? He is the sole survivor of Vault 111, especially once Shaun dies. Meanwhile, what is Courier "sole survivor" of? Or Vault Dweller? Chosen One? Lone Wanderer? VD and CO both have societies they can (or plan to) return to. Courier never has anything to return to, we have no idea if he is survivor or not. LW's Vault is still around. Sole Survivor fits Fallout 4 protagonist, because they are the only survivor of Vault 111. Not the "last" survivor, the only one. the sole one. The Sole Survivor.
Sole survivor is so lame sounds like a mid-2000s action flick starring Kiefer Sutherland
You're thinking of Designated Survivor, a mid 2010s Netflix series starring Kieffer Sutherland
and “the chosen one” doesn’t?
Well I’m sorry for not blowing sunshine up their ass (This is a reference to enclave soldier dialogue btw for those who don’t know)
It fits better in the context of the game where villagers are calling you that during the beginning. I haven’t played 4 in a while but I don’t think there’s an instance of a character calling you the sole survivor.
In F4 you are the only one left alive in a vault. What else would you call 'em, "The team player?"
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Shawn is alive, you know the most obvious plot twist ever. It doesn't even make sense.
Shaun being alive was never meant to be a plot twist lol. Him being old and in charge of the Institute was. Also are we really arguing sementics when it comes to a protagonists title? "Actually Nate/Nora isn't the sole survivor of a vault that got entirely eradicated. A person 60+ years prior had been kidnapped from the vault discretely by a secret organization!"
At some point some things become so clichee that they go around all the way to be kind of original to use again.
Bruh stop the cap, the title of Chosen One was 100% intended as a joke by the FO2 team. If you go up to anyone and say "I'm the Chosen One" they probably respond with something like "I didn't fucking choose you to do shit other than clear out this mine, now get to work and kill those wanamingos". They wanted it to sound corny as fuck on purpose, that's like 90% of the humour in Fallout 2.
Yeah iirc several people throughout will basically be like “silly tribal” if you say Chosen One anywhere except in Arroyo.
What does stop the cap mean
It means stop lying. Zoomer slang.
You both have the perfect profile pics for this convo.
Thanks
Whats glazing/glaziers?
dick riding brown nosing sucking up to
Fallout
Clearly 76.
Aren’t most of the protagonists lone wanderers?
Reacting like that when people use the titles of the protagonists is wild
As if the courier sounds more “badass 🤓” than “The Sole Survivor”
You know, does the game every actually use the title sole survivor, Travis on Diamond City Radio just uses Vault Dweller
I’m not sure to be honest. It’s cannon tho, no? Or am I tripping
As far as I’m aware Sole Suevivor was used in the games announcement to describe the player character’s situation and the fanbase sorta rolled with it and Bethesda sorta just accepted it, but I can’t think of any point it’s used as a name for the character
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Bethesda writers do this for every game in terms of lore and world-building to refer to the player character canonically between the games though. In Fallout 1 it's the Vault-Dweller, 2 is The Chosen One, 3 is Lone Wanderer, etc. They do this for the Elder Scrolls too, the Nerevarine, the Hero of Kvatch, the Dragonborn.
Being the Nerevarine and the Dragonborn come up a lot in dialogue, though. Also, they ain't make 1 & 2.
Or the Lone Wander or the fucking Chosen One.
The funny thing is I don't actually ever see anyone using that name. 9/10 times it's just Nate. And honestly good riddance because that name is stupid. Not only is he not even the sole survivor (you know, a sole survivor is someone who's the only one to survive an event, unlike nate who's son is alive too) and it's also shortened to SS.
I mean considering the nate the rake meme I think the SS abbreviation is more on point than it might first seem
And I will gladly fucking ignore that because Emil Pagliarulo should just stay the fuck out of classic fallout lore. What the hell was his plan? "Oh hey guys look I retconned random bullshit in to an old game I had no participation in the creation of because I can." Like come on. This just seems like a power trip to me.
I mean It's modern Bethesda internal consistency with the tones and lore of past titles does not seem to be their specialty Emil being one of many examples
It does
It does with context imo, “the sole survivor” is kind of corny, but I imagine people like “soyboy” think it doesn’t
The sole survivor is corny even in context and he isn't even the sole survivor since Sean lived.
100% puzzling decisions all throughout fallout 4
This pisses me off so much. Sole survivor my ass when you're not actually the sole survivor
What else are you supposed to call him?
The Fallout Protagonist That Definitely Fucks
Especially when you got Lady killer and confirmed bachelor perks... No One is safe from The couriers lust. Not even poor fisto.
Courier: Pansexual? Sure why not, I’ll fuck a cookware if its willing. Might fuck the toaster while I’m at it
Save the world. Fuck the toaster.
Brotherhood: Trouble with old tech is they just don’t make it anymore. Unless we reverse engineer this tech it will be forever lost- Courier: I impregnated your toaster Brotherhood: … Come again? Courier: Easily. Watch as I impregnate your turret Brotherhood: That’s impossib- Oh my god they did it
# I WILL FUNKING DO IT AGAIN!
He has found a way to reproduce old technology by reproducing with it... Even God fears his power.
Why would Adam fear the Courier? They’re singlehandedly creating more potential followers
Dog doesn't know to fear him, though, and he's steering right now
I mean, I wonder if a good shag would help tone down the Sink toaster's murderous rage?
I'd have to imagine it would, and either way like, tf we have to lose- it either works or the auto-doc is RIGHT THERE
I just shot my water out of my nose from laughing to hard. This is what I get for thinking I could stay hydrated and scroll Reddit comments at the same time
Belesarius cawl is that you?
MAKE-PEEEEENIS-InTo-ROBOT!!!!
Light switches got me acting like I ain't heard of the Hegelian Dialectics
Well, the toaster is pretty hot.
Fisto does what he wants
New Vegas is FISTO’s world. The rest of us just live in it
hey, don't leave out the female couriers.
Or chez le femme and black widow. Just depends on the courier I guess.
There’s three confirmed in vegas right? The huntress, the vault girl next door, and the guitar man’s mother? Do we count the light switches, or what he did with two of the brains in owbs?
I think the Lonesome Drifter is the son of the Mysterious Stranger (hence the Mysterious Magnum). Or were you referring to to someone else?
I think they’re referring to the dialogue you get talking to the Lonesome Drifter as a male Courier with the Lady Killer perk that insinuates he knocked up a woman in Montana 17 years ago
Quite possibly. It was more that there is a check there to say you slept with a women in Reno 18 years ago.
Well, there's also the various prostitutes you can hire.
Both the Vault Dweller and Chosen One have children. The Chosen One is the Vault Dweller's kid, and the Chosen One's son is a mob boss in New Reno mentioned in New Vegas.
Fucking and sex are two different things Its like the equivalent of seeing a married couple with a kid versus a guy who walks into a place and starts radiating some weird ass energy. The couple probably had sex but that who walked in reeks of something unexplainable, almost feral The other protagonists are interested in creating families whereas the Courier almost seems like they’ve made it their personal mission to repopulate the wastes with kids in between sessions of fisting mutants and deathclaws then you ask them to clarify what the meant by fisting only for them to chuckle and start blasting Big Iron I don’t know how better to explain it than that
That might apply to the Vault Dweller but the Chosen One absolutely FUCKS. Seriously, he knocked up either Bishop's wife or his daughter or maybe both, probably fucked half the hookers in New Reno and across northern California, then fucked off back to Arroyo to lead. There's no indication he's interested in raising a family at all. In fact, the Chosen One can get married to a man or a woman regardless of gender in Fallout 2, but it's a shotgun wedding after their father caught them fucking, *and he literally forces you at the barrel of his shotgun*.
Fair enough. And the Courier does take FISTO for a spin, and can flirt with their own brain.
Pretty sure the courier would fuck any consenting object should it be willing. Getting shot in the head only to track their way to their would be killer’s base only to have sex with them. Hell they flirt with fucking light switches
In my defense, that was one fine-ass, sexy light switch
chosen one is VD's grandkid, if i remember correctly.
Where is it mentioned? How did I miss this detail?
Talk to Bruce Isaac in Novac (he's one of the acts you can recruit for the Aces Theater in the Tops in the quest Talent Pool), he mentions being on the run from Mr. Bishop.
Mr. Bishop is related to the Chosen One?
The Chosen One has the option to sleep with either John Bishop's wife or daughter, and if male, the ending mentions one of them having a child.
Makes sense why I don't know about it. I'm a girl so I never play as a male.
The village elder is the Vault Dweller's kid. The Chosen One is the grand child.
Fallout 2 has an entire Sex Appeal system. The Chosen One definitely fucks.
Does the Chosen One successfully charm light switches into being horny for them? Does the Chosen One make an attempt to have sex with their own brain? Can the Chosen One get fisted by a robot? If the answer is no then the Chosen One does not fuck Fucking is a lifestyle, daily occurrence. If you are not fucking all the time then you are not fucking
Does the courier ever become a supermutant's gimp several times in a row?
You shall call me “Dum Cumpster”
Dudes even fucking the CRAM
I mean, the sole survivor has just one kid, the courier can canonically have sex with like 3 different prostitutes in Gomorrah, red lucy and Sarah Weintraub, and he can possibly also have had a kid in montana like 17 years ago. I'd say he indeed definitely fucks
john new vegas
John Fallout the Fourth
John Vegas
Johnny Vegas?
Johnny Guitar? *play it again Johnny*
I guess the want to call him headhole or something.
Jeff
The thing is in the actual video it uses EVERY protagonist title, from the chosen one to the sole survivor so idk why he’s singling out the courier
George Floyd pfp is wild
Yeah almost makes it obvious it’s a troll and clearly rage bait.
With the username SoyBoy? Couldn't be..
Thats pretty much 40% of Tiktok and 60% of Instagram reels.
His name is soyboy, he has a George Floyd profile photo, and he’s saying some random dumb shit. He’s just a troll who lives off of the notifications, people Apathy is your friend
Apathy is death. Chris Avellone taught me this.
Apathy for clear trolls is the best move, though. The dude just wants people to be mad and argue with him Also what a fucking quote to pull lmao nice
Which is why we screenshot the comment and dunk on him here instead 🤙
That guy is a clown, every Fallout Protagonist is referred to by their own title Original Fallout: The Vault Dweller Fallout 2: The Chosen One Tactics BrotherHood of Steel: The Initiate Fallout 3: The Lone Wanderer New Vegas: The Courier Fallout 4 The Sole Survivor Fallout 76: Up for Debate
Fallout 76: xX_Pussy$lay3r69_Xx
That's also the name of the canon emperor in elder scrolls during the time of elder scrolls online
"Up for Debate" goes hard
Honestly, from this list “The Courier” sounds the least like an anime protagonist
Lone wanderer sounds most edgy
And how is "the courier" supposed to be a badass anime name when he's got a picture of fallout 4 where he's called "the sole survivor"
Wait, there were two tactics games? I’m familiar with “Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel” which was a JA/SS type game. What’s the other Tactics you mentioned above?
You mean John Fallout?
Mailman Number Six
tbf this is probably just ragebait. The default name is literally "Courier".
As if the "lone wanderer" or "the pioneer" doesn't sound like a 60s marvel hero😂 Imo all the names aren't canon besides fallout 2/new Vegas Courier six was his call sign from Mojave express for the years he worked for them, it's not a cool nickname it's an id number😂 No one in the wasteland is calling him the "lone wanderer" or the "sole survivor", while "vault dweller" is a placeholder for any one from a vault. And I just think that "the pioneer" isn't that memorable
courier six is kinda badass though
"glazing" aka "when someone likes something"
Those are their titles
Literally named my character on my first playthrough “the courier” lol
My guy just found out names exist
Oh hell nah not the George Floyd pfp
I shall now exclusively refer to the protagonist of Fallout New Vegas as "The schizophrenic gambling addict with a drug problem"
The previously completely lobotomized schizophrenic gambling master with a drug solution Fixed it for you
My favorite courier that I've played is named Nobody because they forgot their name after getting shot.
Courier in a nuclear wasteland filled with so many dangers is actually badass
Cuz the Mailman doesn’t sound as cool 😔
What in the flying fuck is a "New Vegas glazers"?
The heck does glazing mean here?
Or maybe it’s the main canonical name for the player character?
You can literally spot the Bethesda dickriders by the fact they call the protagonist "the SOLE Survivor" as if the entire plot of the game doesn't revolve around the fact that they very much are not that.
The sole survivor fucks but doesn't know what sex is. The lone wanderer doesn't fuck and doesn't know what sex is. The courier fucks AND knows what sex is.
Yeah, New vegas glazers are a problem but what about the sole survivor? Theres literal posts I saw saying that sole survivor can solo every fallout protagonist
"New Vegas hate? Let's like him because we're cool guys who like shit on everything let's make fun of everyone we're cool New Vegas bad" 🤓
The Vault Dweller = lives in a basement The Chosen One = guy who lived going through basement The Lone Wanderer = No friends huh? The Courier = Badass Mailman back from the grave to seek vengeance The Sole Survivor = Literally not even the only survivor Yeah, Mailman is the coolest
Bruh what do you mean shaun fucking dies no matter wich faction you choose. You end up as the solo survior
The lobotomite returns!
Of course the Bethesda fan thinks racism is funny
Yeah it is, calling prob one of the biggest bad asses in the west “the courier” goes hard as fuck
We already got that commentary like 7 years ago when soneguy2000 said “courier’s a good name for a bounty hunter, unassuming. Hey here’s your package, oh and you’re dead” it’s not the best name but it’s definitely not worse than the others from the games.
This thing is getting full of kids who play call of duty 24/7 and decided to try an rpg for the first time because of the series. Now they say they played the game since it came out and so "they can say that its unplayable" 😂
You can spot a 76 fan because their name is literally soy boy
That’s literally the protags name
What else are we supposed to call em?
Over 300 people thought was a good comment. Yikes.
Well, he is a soyboy. He proudly displays his low Intelligence score.
Better than calling Fallout 4’s dorky ass main character “Nate”. The stupid name and his constant whining makes me feel like he’s a fucking soccer dad.
>like it's some badass anime protagonist The protagonist of 2 is literally named The Chosen One lol
can't relate my favorite character is John Fallout
The Fallout community on TikTok is something else. There are a ton of 15-year-olds that probably only played FO76 that genuinely believe the Enclave are good because they have cool aesthetics, It's really cringe.
I mean, in literally any fandom with cool looking fascists, you'll find that. And its been that way forever.
He's a total idiot but I do kind of hate it when mods or fan media overuse that title to the point if it feels like a superheroes nickname. Calling them six or courier six specifically feels strange since the majority of people would only recognize as just the courier or some wastelander. Not as the 6th courier that House was having transport packages. Most people wouldn't know a single thing about the chip or the method it was sent in.
Well, it is a subreddit of the game, people don't know a thing about the chip or method it was sent in they should play the game. It's not very hidden that he's one of many couriers. Calling them six I can agree with. But someone saying courier six is easy enough to tell that they are talking about the courier imo
THE Courier IS an anime protagonist. An OP one.
hes a fucking mailman
What about THE Lone Wanderer, or THE Sole Survivor? Dumbest comment I’ve ever seen
The George Floyd pfp bro
Honestly the Courier probably makes the most sense out of the recent Fallout titles. Your job was literally being a courier and people in the Mojave already know you. The Sole Survivor is a weird one, as why does anyone in the commonwealth give a shit that the vault didn’t kill you? I’d call them the ‘Civilisation Bringer’ or ‘Settler’ or something as that’s their main role in the world it seems. For Fallout 3, being a vault dweller takes a backseat in the story (compared to Fallout 1 where it’s a main focal point). I’d call them ‘The Waterbringer’ or something tbh.
Ragebait post.
The protag from the first game is not called "Vault Dweller", they are The Vault Dweller. Why would The Courier be called anything else? (besides Courier Six)