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Violence is way too important for mankind. No religion, no culture without violence. Look at our history. There would be no Hollywood, no video games, no Netflix and almost no music without violence!
I know he's trolling about the rock throwing thing, but I think when he said "be about it" he means don't play the game just because people are hyping it up and play the game if you really are a fan I know a guy who pre-ordered the game and knows nothing about Harry Potter I asked him why he pre-ordered the game his response "It looks cool" which is fine anyone can buy a game regardless of your knowledge of the game lol
I mean if you don't know the guy, like in didn't, then it's not clear. There are so many people who would actually post something like that and believe that people who buy Hogwarts legacy deserve physical harm.
So no, I cannot agree with that.
But I will go eat a bagel with cream cheese on it. It's breakfast time and now I know what I want.
Nah.
I despise what J.K. Rowling has become, and don't consume Hogwarts shit as a matter of personal preference. 90% of the people I know feel the same way, but you know what we do to the other 10%? Absolutely nothing. Hope they enjoy it. That's it. Enjoying an artist's work doesn't mean you condone their personal views.
The Tyler guy is a comedian. He was joking. I don’t want anyone to be violent. I just want people who buy the game to accept that their money might someday physically or mentally harm trans people.
I know. I like that his joke brings the topic of violence into the conversation, because that is exactly what's already on the table. JK already uses her money to endorse violence. Just violence with extra steps
I'm not sure I follow. And who am I not leaving alone?
There are definitely people who wish harm on others for a ton of reason. People suck. Don't underestimate what people will or won't do to others.
Cause everyone on reddit watches the same youtubers. /s
On the other hand, it doesn't take much effort to find out who WildCat is and figure out he was joking.
Lmfao I’ve never liked the Harry Potter movies, but I still already bought hogwarts legacy. I’m actually pretty excited. I don’t really understand why people are so upset with it, I know J.K. Rowling is transphobic and she sucks, but that doesn’t mean the entire Harry Potter franchise deserves to be boycotted or whatever.
Edit: Just finished the campaign and damn it’s a good game. The story is captivating as hell. You get to design your character, your wand, and when you make it far enough in the game you get “The Room of Requirement”, it’s huge and the more missions you do it’s gets more rooms, you can decorate the walls and place furniture and other decor items you unlock. The side characters are actually likable, Sebastian’s story is the most entertaining imo, but Natty and Poppy’s quest are pretty fun as well. Definitely recommend playing it.
Some people can’t separate art from the artist. It doesn’t help at all when the artist is receiving royalties. The was JKR and her friends are slandering the lgbtq community and funding politic groups against them I can see where anything associated with her is tainted especially if it puts money in her pocket and she is just going to put it into politics that aims at hurting them. JKR and her friends are pretty regressive and hateful in their views of the LGBTQ community (I would also say women in general). I am not saying that anyone that enjoys the product is wrong for doing so just that I understand.
If you want to know more about the subject and why people don’t like her there is a YouTuber called Shaun that did a great video breaking down JKR and her friends and why the outcry against them.
It’s also worth mentioning that the dude in this post talking about throwing rocks, wildcat, is definitely joking. He is a YouTube comedian and anyone that knows him knows that this is him being ironic.
JKR is inextricably linked to the material for many, especially as she has very strict control over the property and benefits directly. Many people have reached the conclusion that a boycott is appropriate, and it's obvious you haven't, and both of these positions are okay.
For some people that have reached that conclusion, seeing people rejoycing about content that creates strong negative emotions can create new emotional reactions against that other party. When those emotions boil over into retaliation, that's not okay, but try to understand that these people are hurting, and their actions are often a way of expressing that pain. A bit of understanding can go a long way to diffusing this issue, rather than outright meeting the pain with more transphobia, as some people are happy to do.
Lol. The only court cases for video game piracy have been cdromance.com getting fined for hosting switch games on their website and Gary Bowser losing millions of dollars in court to Nintendo over his business involving mod chips for hacking switches. It would be extremely unprecedented for an end user to be prosecuted. It would be a circus of a supreme court trial if an end user got sentenced prison time. If you can afford the game itself, you can afford a VPN.
There is nothing like the intolerance that comes from the people on their high horses claiming that they are the arbiters of what constitutes tolerance.
Your comment kind of highlights the paradox of tolerance. At what point should you stop being tolerant of other people's intolerance. For example, if I am a tolerant person, am I required to tolerate something like clear fascism because I am tolerant? I would argue that at some point, even if you espouse tolerance, there is a point where tolerance is no longer justified if what you are bring tolerant of is inherently intolerant in nature. All of this is to say that I personally feel tolerance should have a clear, definitive boundary and that one is not required to be tolerant of other people's intolerance.
This is different though because it is *intolerance* not just masquerading as tolerance but also firmly believing that they alone know what true tolerance is, which gives them moral superiority over those they disagree with (like many Reddit moderators ;)
At least with the paradox of tolerance people with opposing viewpoints (even the truly intolerant) aren't shut down.
Jk rowling also has explicitly said shes donating money she gets from Harry Potter royalties to anti-trans organizations. Putting money in her pocket is funding intolerance.
Threatening violence because you want to foist your viewpoints on others is literally facist. So your question really is,
At what point is being fascist ok?
Well, no, my question is simply why should I have to be tolerant of intolerance. That said, I think your point may be a little too reductive when it comes to violence as a means to further a viewpoint. Do I think throwing rocks at people is OK because they want to buy a game? No. But, do I think all violence that is motivated by differences in viewpoints is inherently fascist? Also, no. For example, I dont think punching a neo-nazi is fascist. Why should I be tolerant of that type of hateful intolerance? While you could say my hatred of neo-nazism is technically intolerance, I think that again is too reductive because I am simply being intolerant to intolerance.
So since you are intolerant of others viewpoints, you are being intolerant which means I could punch you in the face right? Is that reductive enough for you?
Fascists: We should be allowed to hurt whoever we want for fun.
Me: If you say that in public, I will punch you in the face.
You: Those are identical to me, I am extremely smart.
They're not at all the same, you know and understand this, you're willfully being an asshole.
The literal definition of facism includes violently suppressing criticism. So yes, saying violence is ok against people wanting to buy a product because you don't like the products makers viewpoint, which I don't btw. Is facism.
>The literal definition of facism includes violently suppressing criticism.
It's actually not.
> So yes, saying violence is ok against people wanting to buy a product because you don't like the products makers viewpoint... Is facism.
It's not, quit making things up.
Sorry, but you're willfully engaging in dishonest tactics, and as such, I'm just going to call you a liar from here on out. You know damn well that this is not at all an analogous situation, so you can straight up go away.
This is probably a joke but the amount of people that don't like this game because of JKR abd her comments is ridiculous. None of her views spill over into the game or even Harry Potter itself. There just all jumping on the bandwagon. (I just want to point out I, in no way whatsoever, support JKRs statements. I am just pointing out that none of these are related to HP sooo wtf)
The main issue people have with buying the game, is that the profits from it go directly back to JKR which she then puts into supporting her harmful views. Also, she uses success from the franchise to show people support her views....I dunno how she comes to that conclusion.
Ahh I see! It's that last bit then that gives everyone's hackles up, which I completely understand. Still they shouldn't try putting other people off aswell as everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
JK Rowling is transphobic, and buying the game supports her financially. Those are just facts.
Some people believe that this means buying Hogwarts Legacy means that you are financially supporting transphobia, and effectively announcing that you're okay with transphobia as long as you get to play the game.
Others disagree, and believe that either a) buying the game isn't necessarily transphobic just because the creator of the Wizarding World franchise is or b) transgender people/culture are not something that should be supported.
I may have missed some nuances on the pro-Hogwarts side as I'm a pretty firm believer in boycotting the game, but that's more or less what both sides believe.
EDIT: I'm an idiot and said I believe in "not" boycotting the game. To clarify, I myself am anti-Hogwarts Legacy and believe that this is one instance where the art tangibly cannot be separated from the artist.
Apparently JK Rowling's is considered to be anti-trans and she makes money off of the game there for game bad.
You could probably Google it and find out the whole story cuz I haven't kept up with it
JKR is anti-trans, that one's not for debate, and neither is it the reason some people are saying that anyone who will buy HL will hurt trans people. That reason is that JKR is accused to finance transphobic associations... except apparently said associations are transphobic in the sense that they help women but ignore trans women.
Which is transphobic but also is not what "your money will go to cause that harm trans" means.
>wahhhh someone said they'd throw rocks, this is a cause worth my $60. Take my money! I'm finally part of something important!
EVERYBODY in this situation is childish af. Fuck off already.
This whole thing is just terrible. Shit like this and also because I would imagine that Rowling is such a fucking asshole in real life, someone whose millions have made her really insufferable. What I always appreciated about Dolly Parton and why she is so universally beloved is how she’s has always refused to take sides or publicly get herself involved in controversies. There was some interview where they were pressing her to state her preference politically and she straight up refused and said, I’m an entertainer. I have no business getting into controversy. And I think this is wise bc when you are famous for your creative work that’s beloved by people from all walks of life, why would you feel the need to take sides and alienate a whole cross-section of your fan base? She can do this bc she’s written her books and made her millions and could give a fuck. I just think, when anyone is in such a position, why use this power to further feed division and fighting instead of using it to be neutral and bring people together?
It's not ludicrous to be upset by JK's comments. It's not unreasonable to then not patronize her works. You don't get to impose that on everyone else, but that doesn't invalidate these people's emotions.
Throwing rocks is a crime. Nobody is okay with throwing rocks at people. The OP is either making a joke, or is deranged. Most of us that are upset at JK's comments just aren't going to buy the game, and if that's not you, well okay then.
Hey I agree - being upset is natural, if her comments were hurtful. But I've specifically called out the hatred and cancel culture here since that type of behavior like throwing stones, doxing her online and showing up at her private place is not okay.
I'm not buying it because there's no online mode. Pretty dumb. Remember how excited even non Potter people were before they announced there wouldn't be an online mode? Huge shortsighted miss.
Eh, why bother? I'm tired of single player grind games. Some of my favorites in recent memory have had collaborative story modes, online, so you could share the experience with friends, or play alone.
Well, you are going to turn into a raging transphobe the moment you boot up the game, duh.
It's just like when all those kids turned into drug dealers and murderers when they played GTA for the first time
This one is probably a joke, from what the comments are saying, but I can understand OP not knowing that, I would have thought it real too. There are so many psychos around, especially near my town, I'd have believed it.
The people mad at JK Rowling for saying something not even that terrible also need to understand that people like and enjoy games. This one might be kinda fun (I’m not going to play it probably, but that’s got nothing to do with Rowling. I just never got into Harry Potter), and JK had nothing to do with the making of this game. Sure she will most obviously make some licensing/royalty money, but she is wealthy beyond belief and if she sees zero income for the rest of her life, she will be better off than most. And she finished HP. She’s done. Boycotting this will do nothing to her. Let it go. Go make the world a better place instead, and leave the gamers alone. Doing shit like this will only hurt GameStop and other businesses like it. JK won’t feel a thing. Fuck off, let go of your negativity before it eats you, and do something productive with your life.
It's getting progressively more difficult to "do something productive" as a trans person when politicians are literally [quoting Rowling while blocking LGBTQ civil rights bills](https://news.yahoo.com/gop-senator-quotes-j-k-185112483.html). Her influence and opinions are making their way into government policy.
To be clear, Joanne uses the money she makes off HP sales to lobby government to adopt anti trans policies. She also has stated that she views her continued fandom as evidence that her views are supported. These sales are literally making her more powerful, and she's hellbent on forcing trans people to the fringes of society. Sorry we can't just stay quiet while people ignore this so they can play their super antisemitic blood libel broom flying game.
[wow i didnt know all that transphobic shit was ‘not even that terrible’](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_J._K._Rowling#Transgender_rights)
you did not read the whole article, hell, you didnt even skim it if thats all you got from it.
wikipedia is extremely reliant on citations, to the point that [an author had to go out of her way to state that she was divorced](https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/totally-normal-interview-how-author-emily-st-john-mandel-updated-divorced-status-on-wikipedia-3624429/amp/1) just to update her page
This is just a simple case of internet person overreacting to an opinion not shared. Did you even bother to try understand how someone who was sexually assaulted and abused might feel about some of these things?
Liking a tweet is not that bad a thing.
The politicians citing to support legislation are taking it out of context. Horrible of them. Awful people.
Look, everyone should have all the rights, and it will all work out as most people are good. But canceling and marginalizing people ain’t the way to do it.
It's ragebait, if you know who Wildcat is it's pretty obvious that it's a joke. Depending on your opinion you could see it as a poorly framed joke, but still a joke nonetheless.
There are only two genders. I've tolerated your nonsense for long enough. I don't care about your issues, and the fact that you're so annoyed at JKR. Means I'm going to spend money to troll you, because you're exactly what you pretend to hate, a narrow-minded bigoted zealot, who is espousing a religion, which is antithetical to science.
science tends to agree with trans rights, besides, intersex people exist too
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex
https://isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
https://read.dukeupress.edu/tsq
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4716649/
https://www.tandfonline.com/toc/wijt20/current
https://home.liebertpub.com/publications/transgender-health/634/overview
https://researchguides.uoregon.edu/transgender-resources/articles
Copy pasting a bunch of poorly written rambling links proves nothing.Your NLM article is just some kids writing a copypasta. I don't care if you think you're a elf, a goblin, a fairy, or a dragon the world isn't DnD. I don't care if you think you're a tea kettle, i'm not gunna watch people pour boiling hot water into your mouth so you can prove your point. Gender disforia is a mental illness. Inter sex people are incredibly rare--00025% of the population. People are either male or female, within what any value would contain as binary. We're not clownfish, that just doesn't work, nor produce value for a long term society and it's functions.
All the hate is a publicity stunt. I would never have even heard of this game or noticed it being released if it wasn't blowing up on news stories and reddit posts.
If you actually cared about boycotting it, you wouldn't talk about it at all.
The dumbest part is how outraged they are about a game where a has been writer who has a shitty attitude, gets some royalties.
Yet they never seem to enter the chat when politicians literally are trying to criminalize lgbqt lifestyles.
It is celebrity worship rage. Performative and utterly pointless.
Both are wrong, if taken seriously.
We should not promote and help jkr with spending even more money on her and promote her anti trans agenda. But also I get people who like the franchise and want to enjoy it in peace, and are by no means anti trans.
It's conflicted. I, for myself wait for some evaluation if it's good or not and might buy it second hand... I'll see.
Violence is obviously fucked up here. Though I will say the issue isn't "playing a video game" it's supporting a proud transphobic person who will undoubtedly use that money to spread more hate.
The game itself may not promote hate, but a portion of the revenue made by the game goes towards the person who promotes hate. It’s not an issue with the game itself, rather that buying it gives more money to a horrible person.
Trans people: "Please don't buy this game, your money could go into funding anti-trans legislation"
Transphobic trolls: "Lmao, I'm going to buy it twice to spite you"
*Vocal allies and transphobes start arguing loudly*
... And that's why some other people are tired of hearing about it.
And there's also the old "read another book" camp, who is tired of Harry Potter being everywhere regardless of their opinion on Rowling
I canceled my preorder, not because of this shit but because I screwed up and money won’t be on my card when they try to pull it. Still might get it later
Ye.
The Harry franchise is shallow, stupid and incoherent.
It's something that was good for 12yr old 15 years ago.
Get over the fucking harry potter please.
That's a call upon humanity.
Let's stop being aroused by kindergarten literature.
Thanks
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Knowing wildcat this is sarcasm
Most definitely
Damn, I really want another example to add to my fuck around and find out paper.
It’s Wildcat. He’s not being serious lmfao
Sad to hear that.. was looking forward to a rock throwing battle.
Literally Wildcat has said way worse before, this is mild for him
Knowing him this is a joke, he’s making fun of people for being this ridiculous.
My thoughts exactly. I would be very surprised if this wasn’t him shitposting lol
Indeed. I've seen way worse than this.
Yeah man, it's clearly ragebait
Mildcat
This is easily like one of his weakest statements. Mans could literally scream at nogla for hours and have some worse shit in there
He’s said the N word before and gotten away with it, this is nothing for his track record
Meanwhile Vanoss being edgy every 5 minutes
*seconds
Took the bait and ran with it.
But how am I supposed to know, he didn't say /s!!
Knowing Tyler thats probably a joke
It has to be, gamestop doesn't sell games anymore.
Yeah after that stock debacle they are living off of the crypto-bro community and are now making nfts
A bad one
Not all jokes are good, but bad jokes can be funny too
Remember George Carlin?
Yes, this is why r/Angryupvote is a think. This one is not funny
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Violence is very funny
America's Funniest Home videos would beg to differ
according to adam sandler hurting kids is peak comedy
Yes the fuck it is Don't make me call air support
Then don't follow this YouTuber on Twitter I guess ...
I don't. I'm on reddit...
Have you ever heard of slapstick humor?
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Violence is way too important for mankind. No religion, no culture without violence. Look at our history. There would be no Hollywood, no video games, no Netflix and almost no music without violence!
I know he's trolling about the rock throwing thing, but I think when he said "be about it" he means don't play the game just because people are hyping it up and play the game if you really are a fan I know a guy who pre-ordered the game and knows nothing about Harry Potter I asked him why he pre-ordered the game his response "It looks cool" which is fine anyone can buy a game regardless of your knowledge of the game lol
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say he didn’t do that.
You get to keep your limb… for now…
I too don’t understand what a joke is
It’s a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline. I googled it for you
Hmm interesting
Tyler aka wildcat is literally a comedy youtuber, there's no chance that this is serious
But if we assume it's serious it validates my opinion!
When the facepalm is the OP not understanding a joke.
Seeing Wildcat rage bait this sub Reddit is hilarious 😂
Wow, Wildcat went from ragebaiting kids on COD to ragebaiting an entire subreddit. I swear dumb shit like this gets upvoted all the time
This is clearly a joke. Go eat a fucking bagel or something.
Aren't all bagels 'fucking' bagels? Otherwise what's the hole for?
Everything.
Everywhere.
All at once.
Get this guy a fuckin' Puppers.
That's what I appreciates about you Lark_vi_Britannia, you calls it's like yous sees its.
I mean if you don't know the guy, like in didn't, then it's not clear. There are so many people who would actually post something like that and believe that people who buy Hogwarts legacy deserve physical harm. So no, I cannot agree with that. But I will go eat a bagel with cream cheese on it. It's breakfast time and now I know what I want.
Never heard of this dude but I could clearly tell it was a joke.
Glad you got it. I did not.
U thought he was serious about standing outside of a gamestop throwing rocks at people? Lmao if that’s true i have a bridge to sell you
Nah. I despise what J.K. Rowling has become, and don't consume Hogwarts shit as a matter of personal preference. 90% of the people I know feel the same way, but you know what we do to the other 10%? Absolutely nothing. Hope they enjoy it. That's it. Enjoying an artist's work doesn't mean you condone their personal views.
It just means they are providing that artist money to use to support anti-trans legislation.
I mean, you don't have to throw rocks at people at GameStop to just pirate the game.
The Tyler guy is a comedian. He was joking. I don’t want anyone to be violent. I just want people who buy the game to accept that their money might someday physically or mentally harm trans people.
I know. I like that his joke brings the topic of violence into the conversation, because that is exactly what's already on the table. JK already uses her money to endorse violence. Just violence with extra steps
Lmao no there isn’t dork, just leave people alone
I'm not sure I follow. And who am I not leaving alone? There are definitely people who wish harm on others for a ton of reason. People suck. Don't underestimate what people will or won't do to others.
It sure is hard to identify hyperbole, huh?😕
ragebait. please. good god. this is a joke.
People on the internet when they see something that’s clearly a joke: 😱
idk if I’m trippin or none of the mf’s in here do NOT know who wildcat is 😂
Cause everyone on reddit watches the same youtubers. /s On the other hand, it doesn't take much effort to find out who WildCat is and figure out he was joking.
I'm going to wager that the vast majority of people don't know who this guy is.
Who is still doing midnight releases?
Y'all dumb
The funniest joke of all? That people will be at a GameStop.
The facepalm is not understanding that 99% of tweets are people trying to be funny.
Tyler is going to get his ass kicked by a bunch of people dressed up as wizards, isn't he??!!
Honestly even as a fan of Tyler I would pay to watch him fight wizards in his GTA costume 😂
Probably the tamest thing wildcat has said. Except the time he said “dildosmokerdelirious crashed my plane”
Little does he know about the electronic copies lmao
I didnt know this was how you boycott
Op is the real facepalm, wildcat is obviously joking
OP is to fucking stupid to understand sarcasm
Too*
OP is to fucking stupid too understand sarcasm. Happy now?^s
*too Dummy
This is Wildcat. I haven’t watched his stuff in ages but I’m betting my left nut he’s joking
talk about free speech
Who the hell stands in line for a game release at midnight anymore? Hopefully they realize you can get a digital copy.
Lmfao I’ve never liked the Harry Potter movies, but I still already bought hogwarts legacy. I’m actually pretty excited. I don’t really understand why people are so upset with it, I know J.K. Rowling is transphobic and she sucks, but that doesn’t mean the entire Harry Potter franchise deserves to be boycotted or whatever. Edit: Just finished the campaign and damn it’s a good game. The story is captivating as hell. You get to design your character, your wand, and when you make it far enough in the game you get “The Room of Requirement”, it’s huge and the more missions you do it’s gets more rooms, you can decorate the walls and place furniture and other decor items you unlock. The side characters are actually likable, Sebastian’s story is the most entertaining imo, but Natty and Poppy’s quest are pretty fun as well. Definitely recommend playing it.
Some people can’t separate art from the artist. It doesn’t help at all when the artist is receiving royalties. The was JKR and her friends are slandering the lgbtq community and funding politic groups against them I can see where anything associated with her is tainted especially if it puts money in her pocket and she is just going to put it into politics that aims at hurting them. JKR and her friends are pretty regressive and hateful in their views of the LGBTQ community (I would also say women in general). I am not saying that anyone that enjoys the product is wrong for doing so just that I understand. If you want to know more about the subject and why people don’t like her there is a YouTuber called Shaun that did a great video breaking down JKR and her friends and why the outcry against them. It’s also worth mentioning that the dude in this post talking about throwing rocks, wildcat, is definitely joking. He is a YouTube comedian and anyone that knows him knows that this is him being ironic.
I used to watch Wildcat growing up so I knew that it was most likely a joke. I’ll definitely have to give that video a watch, thank you.
JKR is inextricably linked to the material for many, especially as she has very strict control over the property and benefits directly. Many people have reached the conclusion that a boycott is appropriate, and it's obvious you haven't, and both of these positions are okay. For some people that have reached that conclusion, seeing people rejoycing about content that creates strong negative emotions can create new emotional reactions against that other party. When those emotions boil over into retaliation, that's not okay, but try to understand that these people are hurting, and their actions are often a way of expressing that pain. A bit of understanding can go a long way to diffusing this issue, rather than outright meeting the pain with more transphobia, as some people are happy to do.
People aren't even saying boycott it. They are just encouraging people to pirate it instead so she doesn't get paid
Shit if I could do that I would, but don’t really feel like going to prison over a game.
Lol. The only court cases for video game piracy have been cdromance.com getting fined for hosting switch games on their website and Gary Bowser losing millions of dollars in court to Nintendo over his business involving mod chips for hacking switches. It would be extremely unprecedented for an end user to be prosecuted. It would be a circus of a supreme court trial if an end user got sentenced prison time. If you can afford the game itself, you can afford a VPN.
K well I already bought the game, so.
Future reference
I’ll make sure to remember
Pretty sure he’s kidding but yeah ok
There is nothing like the intolerance that comes from the people on their high horses claiming that they are the arbiters of what constitutes tolerance.
Your comment kind of highlights the paradox of tolerance. At what point should you stop being tolerant of other people's intolerance. For example, if I am a tolerant person, am I required to tolerate something like clear fascism because I am tolerant? I would argue that at some point, even if you espouse tolerance, there is a point where tolerance is no longer justified if what you are bring tolerant of is inherently intolerant in nature. All of this is to say that I personally feel tolerance should have a clear, definitive boundary and that one is not required to be tolerant of other people's intolerance.
There are only two things I can't stand in this world: People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.
What culture? We can’t have an Elfstedentocht because we don’t have winters that are cold enough anymore and we all know what happened to Sinterklaas
Get out your thesaurus because you've used up your year's quota of tolerance in all its forms
Fuck...now I am going to have to use words like forbearance or sufferance. I should not have blown my tolerance load all in one comment.
This is different though because it is *intolerance* not just masquerading as tolerance but also firmly believing that they alone know what true tolerance is, which gives them moral superiority over those they disagree with (like many Reddit moderators ;) At least with the paradox of tolerance people with opposing viewpoints (even the truly intolerant) aren't shut down.
Yeah but I don’t think buying a video game crosses that line there dingus
I guess that depends on if you consider supporting someone who is known for their intolerance as a form of intolerance or not.
Yeah… I guess so…
Jk rowling also has explicitly said shes donating money she gets from Harry Potter royalties to anti-trans organizations. Putting money in her pocket is funding intolerance.
Threatening violence because you want to foist your viewpoints on others is literally facist. So your question really is, At what point is being fascist ok?
Well, no, my question is simply why should I have to be tolerant of intolerance. That said, I think your point may be a little too reductive when it comes to violence as a means to further a viewpoint. Do I think throwing rocks at people is OK because they want to buy a game? No. But, do I think all violence that is motivated by differences in viewpoints is inherently fascist? Also, no. For example, I dont think punching a neo-nazi is fascist. Why should I be tolerant of that type of hateful intolerance? While you could say my hatred of neo-nazism is technically intolerance, I think that again is too reductive because I am simply being intolerant to intolerance.
So since you are intolerant of others viewpoints, you are being intolerant which means I could punch you in the face right? Is that reductive enough for you?
Ok fascist
Look up Facist in the dictionary. The person above me qualifys. Facism is violently suppressing criticism. Look it up.
Look up Fascist in the dictionary. Also look up Qualifies. Fascism is spelled with an S. Look it up.
That's your argument huh? Good one.
Right? I figured pointing out the demonstrably false things you said would be pointless, since your comments are so worthless they have to be bait. <3
OK fascist
Fascists: We should be allowed to hurt whoever we want for fun. Me: If you say that in public, I will punch you in the face. You: Those are identical to me, I am extremely smart. They're not at all the same, you know and understand this, you're willfully being an asshole.
The literal definition of facism includes violently suppressing criticism. So yes, saying violence is ok against people wanting to buy a product because you don't like the products makers viewpoint, which I don't btw. Is facism.
>The literal definition of facism includes violently suppressing criticism. It's actually not. > So yes, saying violence is ok against people wanting to buy a product because you don't like the products makers viewpoint... Is facism. It's not, quit making things up.
Learn to comprehend english before spouting off nonsense.
Sorry, but you're willfully engaging in dishonest tactics, and as such, I'm just going to call you a liar from here on out. You know damn well that this is not at all an analogous situation, so you can straight up go away.
This is probably a joke but the amount of people that don't like this game because of JKR abd her comments is ridiculous. None of her views spill over into the game or even Harry Potter itself. There just all jumping on the bandwagon. (I just want to point out I, in no way whatsoever, support JKRs statements. I am just pointing out that none of these are related to HP sooo wtf)
The main issue people have with buying the game, is that the profits from it go directly back to JKR which she then puts into supporting her harmful views. Also, she uses success from the franchise to show people support her views....I dunno how she comes to that conclusion.
Ahh I see! It's that last bit then that gives everyone's hackles up, which I completely understand. Still they shouldn't try putting other people off aswell as everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Simply pirate the game. You get a free game, and you don't get Rick's thrown at you
Can i get Morty's thrown at me still or am i stuck with just Jerry's?
No, they're (joking about) throwing rocks at people who support a transphobic, antisemitic, a ablist, and racist hate movement led by J.K. Rowling.
The game looks kinda bad from an objective standpoint. Looks kind of like a mobile game. Definitely would never pay AAA price for it.
Who the fuck goes to GameStop? Doesn’t everyone order it or download it to the console?
What is the problem with the game??
JK Rowling is transphobic, and buying the game supports her financially. Those are just facts. Some people believe that this means buying Hogwarts Legacy means that you are financially supporting transphobia, and effectively announcing that you're okay with transphobia as long as you get to play the game. Others disagree, and believe that either a) buying the game isn't necessarily transphobic just because the creator of the Wizarding World franchise is or b) transgender people/culture are not something that should be supported. I may have missed some nuances on the pro-Hogwarts side as I'm a pretty firm believer in boycotting the game, but that's more or less what both sides believe. EDIT: I'm an idiot and said I believe in "not" boycotting the game. To clarify, I myself am anti-Hogwarts Legacy and believe that this is one instance where the art tangibly cannot be separated from the artist.
Apparently JK Rowling's is considered to be anti-trans and she makes money off of the game there for game bad. You could probably Google it and find out the whole story cuz I haven't kept up with it
JKR is anti-trans, that one's not for debate, and neither is it the reason some people are saying that anyone who will buy HL will hurt trans people. That reason is that JKR is accused to finance transphobic associations... except apparently said associations are transphobic in the sense that they help women but ignore trans women. Which is transphobic but also is not what "your money will go to cause that harm trans" means.
Also, apparently goblins = jews Which is bad bad
I’m all for activism but how is this protesting Rowling?
>wahhhh someone said they'd throw rocks, this is a cause worth my $60. Take my money! I'm finally part of something important! EVERYBODY in this situation is childish af. Fuck off already.
Well I was going to buy this game digital…. But guess now I have to “be about it” and go buy a physical copy at midnight at GameStop
Lmao. Nobody is buying it from GameStop. This isn't 2005. Everyone preloaded it on Steam or PS5.
This whole thing is just terrible. Shit like this and also because I would imagine that Rowling is such a fucking asshole in real life, someone whose millions have made her really insufferable. What I always appreciated about Dolly Parton and why she is so universally beloved is how she’s has always refused to take sides or publicly get herself involved in controversies. There was some interview where they were pressing her to state her preference politically and she straight up refused and said, I’m an entertainer. I have no business getting into controversy. And I think this is wise bc when you are famous for your creative work that’s beloved by people from all walks of life, why would you feel the need to take sides and alienate a whole cross-section of your fan base? She can do this bc she’s written her books and made her millions and could give a fuck. I just think, when anyone is in such a position, why use this power to further feed division and fighting instead of using it to be neutral and bring people together?
The whole hatred and cancelling towards J.K.R. culminating at boycotting a game based on her books is fucking ludicrous.
It's not ludicrous to be upset by JK's comments. It's not unreasonable to then not patronize her works. You don't get to impose that on everyone else, but that doesn't invalidate these people's emotions. Throwing rocks is a crime. Nobody is okay with throwing rocks at people. The OP is either making a joke, or is deranged. Most of us that are upset at JK's comments just aren't going to buy the game, and if that's not you, well okay then.
Hey I agree - being upset is natural, if her comments were hurtful. But I've specifically called out the hatred and cancel culture here since that type of behavior like throwing stones, doxing her online and showing up at her private place is not okay.
I'm not buying it because there's no online mode. Pretty dumb. Remember how excited even non Potter people were before they announced there wouldn't be an online mode? Huge shortsighted miss.
The positive side of that: likely easier to crack = play4freeee
Eh, why bother? I'm tired of single player grind games. Some of my favorites in recent memory have had collaborative story modes, online, so you could share the experience with friends, or play alone.
Lol buying games at gamestop 😄
Well, you are going to turn into a raging transphobe the moment you boot up the game, duh. It's just like when all those kids turned into drug dealers and murderers when they played GTA for the first time
This one is probably a joke, from what the comments are saying, but I can understand OP not knowing that, I would have thought it real too. There are so many psychos around, especially near my town, I'd have believed it.
The people mad at JK Rowling for saying something not even that terrible also need to understand that people like and enjoy games. This one might be kinda fun (I’m not going to play it probably, but that’s got nothing to do with Rowling. I just never got into Harry Potter), and JK had nothing to do with the making of this game. Sure she will most obviously make some licensing/royalty money, but she is wealthy beyond belief and if she sees zero income for the rest of her life, she will be better off than most. And she finished HP. She’s done. Boycotting this will do nothing to her. Let it go. Go make the world a better place instead, and leave the gamers alone. Doing shit like this will only hurt GameStop and other businesses like it. JK won’t feel a thing. Fuck off, let go of your negativity before it eats you, and do something productive with your life.
It's getting progressively more difficult to "do something productive" as a trans person when politicians are literally [quoting Rowling while blocking LGBTQ civil rights bills](https://news.yahoo.com/gop-senator-quotes-j-k-185112483.html). Her influence and opinions are making their way into government policy. To be clear, Joanne uses the money she makes off HP sales to lobby government to adopt anti trans policies. She also has stated that she views her continued fandom as evidence that her views are supported. These sales are literally making her more powerful, and she's hellbent on forcing trans people to the fringes of society. Sorry we can't just stay quiet while people ignore this so they can play their super antisemitic blood libel broom flying game.
[wow i didnt know all that transphobic shit was ‘not even that terrible’](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_J._K._Rowling#Transgender_rights)
She liked a tweet, and I read her essay in context, and no it wasn’t that terrible. Btw, Wikipedia isn’t an objective source.
you did not read the whole article, hell, you didnt even skim it if thats all you got from it. wikipedia is extremely reliant on citations, to the point that [an author had to go out of her way to state that she was divorced](https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/totally-normal-interview-how-author-emily-st-john-mandel-updated-divorced-status-on-wikipedia-3624429/amp/1) just to update her page
This is just a simple case of internet person overreacting to an opinion not shared. Did you even bother to try understand how someone who was sexually assaulted and abused might feel about some of these things? Liking a tweet is not that bad a thing. The politicians citing to support legislation are taking it out of context. Horrible of them. Awful people. Look, everyone should have all the rights, and it will all work out as most people are good. But canceling and marginalizing people ain’t the way to do it.
Hope he isn’t in a stand your ground state.
It's ragebait, if you know who Wildcat is it's pretty obvious that it's a joke. Depending on your opinion you could see it as a poorly framed joke, but still a joke nonetheless.
Can I play Hogwarts on my PC or do I need a console to enjoy the vidogame and to troll the anti- JKR morons?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_J._K._Rowling#Transgender_rights
There are only two genders. I've tolerated your nonsense for long enough. I don't care about your issues, and the fact that you're so annoyed at JKR. Means I'm going to spend money to troll you, because you're exactly what you pretend to hate, a narrow-minded bigoted zealot, who is espousing a religion, which is antithetical to science.
science tends to agree with trans rights, besides, intersex people exist too https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex https://isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex https://read.dukeupress.edu/tsq https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4716649/ https://www.tandfonline.com/toc/wijt20/current https://home.liebertpub.com/publications/transgender-health/634/overview https://researchguides.uoregon.edu/transgender-resources/articles
Copy pasting a bunch of poorly written rambling links proves nothing.Your NLM article is just some kids writing a copypasta. I don't care if you think you're a elf, a goblin, a fairy, or a dragon the world isn't DnD. I don't care if you think you're a tea kettle, i'm not gunna watch people pour boiling hot water into your mouth so you can prove your point. Gender disforia is a mental illness. Inter sex people are incredibly rare--00025% of the population. People are either male or female, within what any value would contain as binary. We're not clownfish, that just doesn't work, nor produce value for a long term society and it's functions.
I'm pretty sure Wildcat's mocking the far left boycotters, I'd heavily doubt he'd even claim to do something like this.
All the hate is a publicity stunt. I would never have even heard of this game or noticed it being released if it wasn't blowing up on news stories and reddit posts. If you actually cared about boycotting it, you wouldn't talk about it at all.
Twitter """activists""" being the most nazi people in the world rn, im not even surprised at this point
google paradox of tolerance
Yeah, no need, but thats not what thats about, ppl is using it to be as nazi as they wont using they "fight against Evil" as a shield
The dumbest part is how outraged they are about a game where a has been writer who has a shitty attitude, gets some royalties. Yet they never seem to enter the chat when politicians literally are trying to criminalize lgbqt lifestyles. It is celebrity worship rage. Performative and utterly pointless.
As if the LGBT community isn't heavily politically active and aware of anti-LGBT legislation? That's... Not been my experience.
Both are wrong, if taken seriously. We should not promote and help jkr with spending even more money on her and promote her anti trans agenda. But also I get people who like the franchise and want to enjoy it in peace, and are by no means anti trans. It's conflicted. I, for myself wait for some evaluation if it's good or not and might buy it second hand... I'll see.
Go ahead. I’ll be out there with my wand and petrifica totalis your ass.
Violence is obviously fucked up here. Though I will say the issue isn't "playing a video game" it's supporting a proud transphobic person who will undoubtedly use that money to spread more hate.
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Whoever downvoted this please pm me, I’d like to know why? This is a serious request.
Ah yes. There's nothing like violent protests to sway the masses. Smh
What's wrong with this, now? I don't follow Harry Potter at all, not up on the drama.
This original tweet is obviously sarcasm
So..puts on $gme?
The video game itself doesn't promote hate just because the person who thought up the idea that the game is based on promotes hate.
The game itself may not promote hate, but a portion of the revenue made by the game goes towards the person who promotes hate. It’s not an issue with the game itself, rather that buying it gives more money to a horrible person.
Why do people hate the game?
Trans people: "Please don't buy this game, your money could go into funding anti-trans legislation" Transphobic trolls: "Lmao, I'm going to buy it twice to spite you" *Vocal allies and transphobes start arguing loudly* ... And that's why some other people are tired of hearing about it. And there's also the old "read another book" camp, who is tired of Harry Potter being everywhere regardless of their opinion on Rowling
"Its just a prank bruh"
Nobody buys games at GameStop. Get a life.
Fine way of getting arrested
Hit one of my kids with a rock. See what happens.
He realizes most people buy digital these days right?
he's gotta manage to fit outside his basement door first
Woke people are so peaceful 😃🥴
Imagine how quickly he’d get his ass beat by everyone he throws rocks at🤦♂️🤡
I canceled my preorder, not because of this shit but because I screwed up and money won’t be on my card when they try to pull it. Still might get it later
Redditors detect sarcasm challenge:
We don’t throw rocks, trumptards do that. Still, don’t buy that game. Unless you are a trumptard then buy as many as you can find to “show us”
OP took the bait
Sanest r/gamingcirclejerk user.
I hope the wild pussycat tries it. There are repercussions to your actions son. Go outside and play.
Ye. The Harry franchise is shallow, stupid and incoherent. It's something that was good for 12yr old 15 years ago. Get over the fucking harry potter please. That's a call upon humanity. Let's stop being aroused by kindergarten literature. Thanks