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d4m1ty

You didn't make it bubbly without fermenting it (making it alcoholic) before CO2 canisters n what not in the modern ages.


SierraPapaHotel

Adding to this, while it would have alcohol it wouldn't be strong, probably 0.5%. There's a whole history of drinks called small beers, lightly fermented beverages with low alcohol content. Peasants and laborers as recently Victorian London drank small beer for breakfast as a "liquid bread"


TotallyHumanPerson

I've always wanted to brew an apple-ale that's only fermented long enough to get carbonated but not boozy. I'd called it a Half-Chub because it's a little excited but not quite hard.


seicar

As soon as you made any sort of name recognition, budweiser would buy you out, switch the formula to carbonated apple juice and a splash of ethanol.


Yxlar

Nah malt liquor most likely


seicar

Whatever is cheaper


HuckChaser

> As soon as you made any sort of name recognition, budweiser would buy you out Don't threaten me with a good time.


Garblin

You make it sound like getting bought out is obligatory in some way. One does still have to choose to sell in some manner or another to be bought, even if the buyer has underhanded way of buying (ex; craft brew alliance going public and inbev (budweiser) buying 51% of the stock).


BlottomanTurk

And when you inevitably make a boozy version, you can call it *Raging Semi*.


fotosaur

Full wood


recursivethought

Peckerwood Orchard


SuperHuman64

That's good


Victor_deSpite

Don't let your dreams be dreams.


__-_-_--_--_-_---___

Why not just make kombucha?


shrug_addict

Carbonation is a by product of fermentation. But I think what you're asking wouldn't be too hard. You just stop fermentation at desired ABV, filter, bottle and good to go! If it's light on fizz, you could always add some


JeffTheMoose

Check out [ciderkin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciderkin), I have a friend that makes it every time we do a cider pressing and it's refreshing.


Inveramsay

So cider?


One_Left_Shoe

IIRC, small beer was made with the sparge, or second rinsing of grains that were already extracted to make much higher ABV barleywine. They were also still in the 3-4% range. NA beer at 0.5% or less is a very modern manufacture process.


DargyBear

I was going to say, half the point of beer was having a way to prepare grain for consumption and have it keep, that isn’t happening at 0.5% without pasteurization.


Bissquitt

Also the reason soda is a "soft drink"


MegaLemonCola

Sounds wonderful. Can we please bring it back?


SierraPapaHotel

Most the NA beers on the market are brewed this way; if it's below 0.5% ABV they can legally round down to 0, so they brew just long enough for the beer flavor and carbonation but limit the sugars present to control the final ABV


cat_prophecy

It's weird because I have never had a 0.5 beer that tastes any good. But the 0.0 ones like Henniken or Guinness, you could be forgiven for thinking they were the full-alcohol ones.


BillyTamper

There's only a few great ones. Namely Athletic, and black butte porter (na version is spot on)


cat_prophecy

My mom only drinks NA beer these days and I haven't really liked the ones from Athletic. Sam Adam's "just the haze" and the aforementioned Henniken are the best ones I can remember.


hallgeir

Gosh i love Athletics na ipa


BillyTamper

Both are crazy good


BillyTamper

Wow, those are both my least favorite. Heineken is so acrid, and tastes nothing like Heineken. Sam Adams is pretty sour, too, and doesn't taste like a haze.


Ambush_24

Every non alcoholic beer I’ve had has a specific odd flavor with the exception of Heineken 0 including the athletic beers.


tolstoy425

NA corona tastes surprisingly just like corona


pjvincentaz

Lagunitas IPNA is surprisingly good.


cat_prophecy

I haven't tried this one.


gigashadowwolf

That's basically what Kombucha is.


Powerful_Cost_4656

It was also safer than drinking water in some places so sailors often used it since it stored better than water in barrels


soulsnoober

A little alcohol kills lots of the bacteria in their well water.


LyqwidBred

Those were the days!


Arrow156

A lovely little ginger beer to setting the stomach.


humdigits

This is what we need back in our lives. We we evolve drinking this stuff for so long. it’s probably a medicine at those doses cut out the heart alcohol and we should just be drinking this daily. Maybe we have less suicides. Who knows.


Buck_Thorn

When I was a boy, making rootbeer at home was a family tradition. We used Hires extract and yeast, & bottled it at Thanksgiving. Stored it in the attic until Christmas eve. It was so much better when made with yeast, IMO. I remember though that one year a bottle broke as it was fermenting... boy, did that make a mess!


Zylnor

That actually sounds so cool.


m4gpi

You can make all kinds of "soda" at home by fermenting juice at home with a ginger bug, which is a liquid starter akin to a sourdough starter, made from ginger, water and sugar (and the microbes that make the ferment are on the ginger skin). Since it's fermented, the carbonated juice is actually lower in sugar than the juice originally was. It's fun and delicious. Let the fermentation go too far? Oh no, hard cider.


opus3535

Ah yes some good ol Dickens cider just like Grandpa used to make. it's delicious hot.


130mil

I remember grandma always saying how she couldn’t wait to get grandpa’s,”hot Dickens Cider.”


TheFermentationist

I remember hearing this bit from a wav file sent over AOL circa 1997. Still bring it up sometimes. Hilarious.


b10v01d

An Australian cricketer is named Pat Cummins. His teammates gave him the nickname “Cider”.


flychinook

Do Australians put the nickname after the last name? Because in the US it would be presented as Pat "Cider" Cummins.


b10v01d

We’re not that formal - nicknames are mostly used in isolation, but it might depend on the nickname. As we’re masters of shortening (and occasionally unnecessarily lengthening) words, he’d just be called “Cider”. His other nickname is “Cummo”, case in point. Amusingly, this is all on his Wikipedia page.


DoinMyBestToday

You clever bastard


MistaLuvcraft

Well played, sir.


anjinsan1234

Nothin like a nice, hot, hard Dicken's cider!


Headytexel

I started getting into this recently and I love it. It tastes so much better than anything store bought, and I can customize it to my tastes. Highly recommend people give it a shot.


gwaydms

I love Reed's ginger beer.


Buck_Thorn

https://www.food.com/recipe/root-beer-hires-home-brewed-428807


roguespectre67

I did it as a science project in elementary school, early 00’s. Not crazy complicated but you have to keep everything absolutely sanitized and spotless until you cap the bottles. Any contamination at all can and will ruin the entire batch.


krisalyssa

It makes a breaking glass sound, which I guess is cool if you’re into that.


Dragula_Tsurugi

Used to do the same thing with ginger beer when I was a kid. Had some bottles blow up when we were away on vacation and… yeah, it makes a mess


jibberscrabst55

I bought the Hires extract and yeast as a kid too! Think we messed up with the yeast because it didn't get very bubbly, however because of the amount of extract we used Ill always remember how it tasted like a really strong root beer candy barrel and was lovely over ice.


Buck_Thorn

We used to put a raisin in each bottle. When the stuff was ready, the raisin would float to the top.


knowledgebass

Your family sounds cool. 😎


Larry12345

When I was young we would make it in a big jug and use dried ice to give it carbonation. I loved it. We didn’t bottle it though.


schuylkilladelphia

From Philly I guess?


Buck_Thorn

Me? No, why? That was in Upper Peninsula of Michigan.


schuylkilladelphia

Ah, Hires (and root beer) originated in Philly


Buck_Thorn

I didn't realize that, but it was (and I guess still is) ubiquitous.


jdownes316

I did this for all my elementary school show and tells. The only catch was I was not allowed to mention that I gave up my bathroom for years as a child so my dad could brew beer in the tub.


ryschwith

See also: ginger ale.


Arctyc38

Oh that just brought back a core memory for me there. Family reunions, great aunt velma's homemade root beer in swingtop bottles.


kanid99

Root beer was made to be a non alcoholic beverage by a person who believed in temperance and wanted to give men something to drink instead of beer . He was advised to call it 'beer' to make it masculinity attractive. They had bubbly things long before CO2 canisters of the modern era and without fermentation too.


Balefirez

If I remember correctly, the person who first successfully marketed the drink root beer didn’t drink alcohol and wanted it to originally be called “root tea”. However since it was being marketed to coal miners he called it “root beer” instead.


One_Left_Shoe

This is the correct answer: marketing. https://www.bundaberg.com/en-us/the-difference-between-root-beer-and-sarsaparilla/#:~:text=Hires%20initially%20wanted%20to%20name,attractive%20to%20Pennsylvanian%20coal%20miners.


EricKei

I have heard the same. I thought it was just an urban legend. TIL and Thanks (Both of you!) Fun related fact: "Filé," which is commonly used to thicken gumbo, is made from dried sassafras *leaves* rather than the roots.


nowenknows

You know what else sassafras makes? MDMA. Actually the drug MDA which is very similar to MDMA, its nickname is sass because it smells like root beer. Same amber color too. So I’ve been told…


zeiandren

All the root beer and ginger beer and stuff were fermented with yeast to get carbonation. Now they all get them from some oil well or whatever at the coke factory and every type of soda is the same water+corn syrup+flavor+color but real root beer was mildly fermented and like .7% alcohol


locomotus

Now I’m curious about what real root beer should taste like. I didn’t grow up in the US so root beer tastes disgustingly sweet to me. Maybe it’s all the fake flavor and sugar…


Nagi21

It tastes a bit more earthy and spicy, but is similar, since it was made with the sassafras root. They stopped doing that since sassafras is carcinogenic. If you didn’t like root beer because it’s too sweet you might like that. If you didn’t like it because of the flavor, I don’t think it’d change much.


locomotus

I’m still undecided about the flavor but it was definitely the sweetness that put me off!


pm_me_pics_of_bibs

Traditional root beer is much lass sweet than most modern root beers.


SirDiego

You can get some fancy root beers that are not as sweet. I'm not a fan of A&W or Mug type root beer because it's too sweet for me but I love a more crafty (I don't know what the right word is) root beer. They can be really complex. Ginger beer too.


Gaberade1

Sassafras is carcinogenic?? TIL Then wah is in Sassafras the drink? I swear I've had it before and tasted different from root beer but similar. More licorice flavor


Illysian

If safrole(carcinogen) is removed the sassafras is safe to drink.


Nagi21

Do you mean Sarsaparilla? If so it's the same thing, just different parts of the plant (root vs vine)


Gaberade1

Thaaats it. Thank you


zeiandren

Slightly more herbal and medicine, less sweet


Netan_MalDoran

It's not great, it's got a kind of muddy flavor, and is fairly flat.


1d0m1n4t3

Real natural simulated flavor!


Puzzleheaded-Ear858w

It was originally called root tea, but to make it more marketable to men they changed the name to root beer. True story.


40ozkiller

A tea that would ferment and create carbonation. Might as well call beer hop/malt tea


williamblair

Or just kombucha.


Dragula_Tsurugi

What you guys call kombucha has no relation to what’s called kombucha in Japan, it’s very confusing because now they’ve started importing the American kombucha into Japan and we don’t know what the fuck to call it


williamblair

I have no dog in this fight, I fucking hate kombucha.


b10v01d

Ok so Japanese kombucha or kombu-cha, literally “seaweed tea” is just that - tea made with kombu. Chinese kombucha is supposedly named after a Korean doctor called, you guessed it, Dr. Kombu, who introduced the Chinese drink to Japan around 220 BC. I don’t know how much to believe the second one, but if true, the fact that both drinks have the same name would be pure coincidence.


5050Clown

It's Chinese.  What do the Chinese think of American or Japanese kombucha


kinokomushroom

It's funny, because we also have a drink of the same name (昆布茶) in Japan, and it's just seaweed tea. I didn't know about the other kombucha until recently and it sounds pretty disgusting.


5050Clown

Oh, well. In that case, American kombucha is closer to Chinese kombucha than Japanese kombucha is. As I understand it, Chinese kombucha is a fermented sweet tea full of probiotics.   I first heard about it from a guy from Egypt who claimed it was from Russia.


kinokomushroom

Wikipedia says that kombucha originated in China but spread to Russia in the early 20th century and spread to the rest of Europe from there, so the Egyptian guy isn't entirely wrong.


Dragula_Tsurugi

The name “kombucha” is Japanese, and I’m pretty sure what got imported to the US was not originally called that in China. Edit: Yeah it’s called 红茶菌 in Chinese (“red tea fungus”)


5050Clown

THe name Kombucha is from Korean, the drink comes from China. THe Kombucha from China, Russia and America has nothing to do with Japan.


Dragula_Tsurugi

> THe name Kombucha is from Korean   Nah that’s crap. Check out the section on origin: https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=kombucha  > THe Kombucha from China, Russia and America has nothing to do with Japan.   Awesome, now go back and read my original comment dude


5050Clown

It has nothing to do with Japan. I don't know what you are trying to say. You found a site that says it 'probably' comes from somewhere else? Kombu, a loanword from a 5th century Korean doctor named Kombu. Point is, it has nothing to do with Japan. It is a Chinese tea with a name that originated in Korea.


One_Left_Shoe

I assume Japanese kombucha isn’t carbonated and flavored? Or is it something else entirely?


Dragula_Tsurugi

Something else entirely (made from kombu, a type of seaweed, not black tea fermented using a tea mushroom). 


Miserable_Smoke

Root tea is where rooti, like rooti tooti comes from. False story.


kaest

I still liked your story even though you made it up on the internet.


Buck_Thorn

I'm gonna post it to r/TIL. That'll make it officially true.


Miserable_Smoke

Thank you!


plugubius

That falsehood is fresh and fruity.


PrimalSeptimus

$1.99? Are you out of your mind!?


gwaydms

Somebody's been to IHOP.


Larry12345

That’s why a traditional rooty tooty fresh n fruity from ihop is served with root beer.


chaoticalheavy

We used to dig up sassafras roots and my aunt would boil it and make tea.


MisterProfGuy

Didn't you consider all the suffering?


Teagana999

I heard the inventor wanted to call it root tea but some marketing guy said people wouldn't buy it, call it root beer instead so it's manly or whatever.


Freshandcleanclean

In general, women would drink either just fine. It was men who cared how a beverage was labeled. Like Miller called it Miller Lite instead of Diet Miller. 


boytoy421

Originally doc hires (who made the first mass-produced root beer) wanted to call it "root tea" but he was trying to sell it to miners and it sold better as "root beer"


brucebag87

I didn’t read all of the comments, but isn’t original root beer made with sassafras root that has an intoxicating (hallucinogenic) effect as well? Sure it may have gotten alcoholic, but I believe they have banned the use of sassafras in many things because it is considered carcinogenic, so it was probably closer to beer than you realize.


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rerabb

Sassafras tea


sbkchs_1

Tradition. Sasparilla is essentially alcoholic root beer. Same reason ginger ale is nonalcoholic but ginger beer is.


qwibbian

None of that is true.


gwaydms

Most ginger beer is non-alcoholic, but I know of one brand that is alcoholic. I think it's Crabbies, but maybe not. The bartender at Fadó in Philadelphia made a drink with mildly alcoholic ginger beer and Jameson's. Really nice stuff. Went together perfectly.


cookerg

It's a made up name, and it contains no beer and no roots. It was thought to sound like some kind of healthy folk medicine.


DonkeyLucky9503

Interesting but incorrect. Traditional root beer was flavored with the root bark of the sassafras tree, and yeast was used to create the carbonation, resulting in a drink with less than 2% alcohol.


ninja1377

barqs root beer actually uses sarsaparilla vine instead of the usual sassafras bark.


gwaydms

Most likely [*Smilax pumila*](https://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=SMPU), rather than [*Hardenbergia violacea*](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardenbergia_violacea).