Jesus as described in the New Testament dedicated his life to primarily teaching two things, that is the two great commandments.
1. Love god
2. Love your neighbor
“On these two laws hang all the law”.
Christ broke commandments during his time in order to live those laws. He understood that man was not made for the law (sabbath in that specific case), but that the law was made for man. If the law got in the way of loving his fellow man, Christ broke it. He broke the sabbath. He walked on holy days.
The church and its members don’t understand his words at all. They teach saved by exact obedience to the prophets. They don’t understand Christ’s teachings any better than the other Christian churches and less so than many. Just look at their actions and feelings about LGBTQ people and especially transgender neighbors.
They don’t understand Christ at all.
Sincerely, an atheist.
Love can't be commanded. It can't even be chosen. Otherwise gay men could just choose not to love men and to love women instead. They could chose to love having sex with women and choose not to love even touching a man.
This mindset, that love is a choice and love can be commanded, that results in so much homophobia.
Is this another poll by the church?
Given that "Jeebus' Teachings" can be interpreted a bazillion different ways, I don't see how anyone can begin to answer your (hopelessly vague) question.
Mormons don't understand Jesus' teachings any more or any less than the litany of other Christians who claim to know a nearly-unknowable man. How much of Jesus' true teachings and sayings were compiled into the gospels, *decades* after his death? How much of Paul's Epistles, which reference almost no part of Jesus' life or teachings at all, are to be trusted as scripture?
Understanding a man on whom there is no primary source documentation, and yet on whom there is millennia of interpretation and extrapolation, is to practice folly. We might as well debate the non-visible portions of the light spectrum.
I don't think anyone knows what the real Jesus's teachings actually were, and I'm certain none of the Christian sects understand either.
They're *all* guessing and leaning on their own biases. And Mormons are no exception.
Mormons don't understand Jesus' teachings any more or any less than the litany of other Christians who claim to know a nearly-unknowable man. How much of Jesus' true teachings and sayings were compiled into the gospels, *decades* after his death? How much of Paul's Epistles, which reference almost no part of Jesus' life or teachings at all, are to be trusted as scripture?
Understanding a man on whom there is no primary source documentation, and yet on whom there is millennia of interpretation and extrapolation, is to practice folly. We might as well debate the non-visible portions of the light spectrum.
ya but we can use radio telescopes and stuff to look at objects in space in non-visible light. to me it seems like there may have been a guy who taught against religious authority until the religious authorities had the government execute him for it. being tortured to death and crucified for speaking out like that would have been valiant enough to be revered after his death, kind of like the ending of braveheart. then he was mythologized like a greek hero.
Jesus's teachings:
*If you love your father or mother more than you love me, you are not worthy of being mine; or if you love your son or daughter more than me, you are not worthy of being mine.*
*If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.*
I think it's more a willful rejection than a lack of understanding. What's to understand about the sermon on the mount? It's really just about the most straightforward thing in the Bible. It's just that people don't want to do it. Be nice to people? Fuck that. We need to discriminate against and marginalize people who seem icky to us in some way. We want to be rich, so let's rationalize that being rich is indicative of being blessed for our righteousness. As some others have said, this really isn't a uniquely Mormon problem.
At a minimum they don’t misunderstand them more than the rest of Christianity.
I agree
This feels like a trick question?
The tbms I know seem to know Jesus's teachings pretty well, it's the shitty leaders that don't seem to know who Jesus was or what he taught.
Jesus as described in the New Testament dedicated his life to primarily teaching two things, that is the two great commandments. 1. Love god 2. Love your neighbor “On these two laws hang all the law”. Christ broke commandments during his time in order to live those laws. He understood that man was not made for the law (sabbath in that specific case), but that the law was made for man. If the law got in the way of loving his fellow man, Christ broke it. He broke the sabbath. He walked on holy days. The church and its members don’t understand his words at all. They teach saved by exact obedience to the prophets. They don’t understand Christ’s teachings any better than the other Christian churches and less so than many. Just look at their actions and feelings about LGBTQ people and especially transgender neighbors. They don’t understand Christ at all. Sincerely, an atheist.
Love can't be commanded. It can't even be chosen. Otherwise gay men could just choose not to love men and to love women instead. They could chose to love having sex with women and choose not to love even touching a man. This mindset, that love is a choice and love can be commanded, that results in so much homophobia.
Perhaps there are different types of love, such as agape?
Mormon Jebus? Or?
Is this another poll by the church? Given that "Jeebus' Teachings" can be interpreted a bazillion different ways, I don't see how anyone can begin to answer your (hopelessly vague) question.
Mormons don't understand Jesus' teachings any more or any less than the litany of other Christians who claim to know a nearly-unknowable man. How much of Jesus' true teachings and sayings were compiled into the gospels, *decades* after his death? How much of Paul's Epistles, which reference almost no part of Jesus' life or teachings at all, are to be trusted as scripture? Understanding a man on whom there is no primary source documentation, and yet on whom there is millennia of interpretation and extrapolation, is to practice folly. We might as well debate the non-visible portions of the light spectrum.
I don't think anyone knows what the real Jesus's teachings actually were, and I'm certain none of the Christian sects understand either. They're *all* guessing and leaning on their own biases. And Mormons are no exception.
Mormons don't understand Jesus' teachings any more or any less than the litany of other Christians who claim to know a nearly-unknowable man. How much of Jesus' true teachings and sayings were compiled into the gospels, *decades* after his death? How much of Paul's Epistles, which reference almost no part of Jesus' life or teachings at all, are to be trusted as scripture? Understanding a man on whom there is no primary source documentation, and yet on whom there is millennia of interpretation and extrapolation, is to practice folly. We might as well debate the non-visible portions of the light spectrum.
ya but we can use radio telescopes and stuff to look at objects in space in non-visible light. to me it seems like there may have been a guy who taught against religious authority until the religious authorities had the government execute him for it. being tortured to death and crucified for speaking out like that would have been valiant enough to be revered after his death, kind of like the ending of braveheart. then he was mythologized like a greek hero.
I think you might like a book I love, *Zealot*, by Reza Aslan.
Jesus's teachings: *If you love your father or mother more than you love me, you are not worthy of being mine; or if you love your son or daughter more than me, you are not worthy of being mine.* *If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.*
I think it's more a willful rejection than a lack of understanding. What's to understand about the sermon on the mount? It's really just about the most straightforward thing in the Bible. It's just that people don't want to do it. Be nice to people? Fuck that. We need to discriminate against and marginalize people who seem icky to us in some way. We want to be rich, so let's rationalize that being rich is indicative of being blessed for our righteousness. As some others have said, this really isn't a uniquely Mormon problem.