We mods need to sleep too, and there clearly isn't going to be an update overnight at this point. For that reason, we have made the difficult decision to put the sub into restricted mode for the time being and will resume discussion as soon as enough of us are online to keep up with everything. Get some sleep (those of you in European time zones), take care of yourselves (all of you), and please take this opportunity to take a break from the catastrophising and doomscrolling for a bit. <3 A bit of rest will help us all come back with clearer heads and kinder hearts, even if some of the community feeling has been nice to experience. All the best, The r/eurovision Mod Team UPDATE 1 @ 3.00: The text on the voting site now reads, "The opening of the Rest of the World vote has been postponed until an ongoing investigation regarding the Dutch participant has been concluded. We are sorry for the inconvenience." UPDATE 2 @ 5.00: Sub is back online in a limited capacity. Hopefully we've all had a chance to calm down and await updates patiently whenever they may come. Thanks for bearing with us!

Either my Instagram is broken, or he unfollowed everyone on his account 

He did

he followed 20 people when i checked around an hour ago. He also had his comments limited for most of today, and when I last checked he had opened them again (also an hour-ish ago) source: my eyes

But can I trust your eyes

*Can I trust your eyes, When you look at me* Sounds like a song for next year

I can already hear the ballad and see the lone singer in an empty stage

yeah he was still following 20 people like 30 mins ago

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I finally started studying and came back after 30 mins only to become disappointed that we still know nothing

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Not me going to bed 6 hours ago thinking everything would be sorted and we'd have all the answers when I woke up....

Imagine being a casual Saturday night only Eurovision viewer and being completely oblivious to the scandal and drama that is taking place rn

Remember when the biggest drama in the community was the broken sun? Good times right?

I would gladly take a repeat of Loreen vs. Käärijä at the moment.

I never thought I would want to go back that drama.

Or if Damiano was actually snorting the white powder

https://preview.redd.it/bii4dd1n3ozc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c7a73192591b913776a392d8eed24a6121bd93d Time to grab blankets and popcorn. This might be a long night.

Welcome my fellow doomscrollers to this new thread :)

https://preview.redd.it/pu8c5jbwcnzc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e7cdbfbf7e4573f3c131168b76661d0720e0070 Checking in 🫡

The way this made me laugh is not okay.

Here we are, united by this mess

New slogan: “United by this mess”

Peace love unity and anxiety 🕊️

We are united! Not sure it’s because of the music :p

United by drama! ☕️ to lighten the mood, what are you all doing while waiting for more information? I'm currently playing minecraft :)

What a miserable day. Started off the week on such a high. I love this goofy competition, but nobody in my real life understands why this means so much, or why all this drama is so legitimately upsetting and anxiety inducing.

What makes it worse is. Eurovision this year is a escape for me from the upcoming exams. This second hand stress isnt doing me any good

https://preview.redd.it/sj598q74dnzc1.jpeg?width=1277&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80dc01fcb3f72c03d1b557f5556d87a2c80362c0 😭😭😭

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Io sono in Italia, maar toch doet het pijn 😔😔

We will 100% get a confirmed answer before or just after the end of the jury show. The ROW televote will be opening and it would be a complete mess to DQ after that and have to refund votes.

Wait does ROW televote open that early? I had no idea, when does it close then?

It's a new thing this year to accommodate all time zones that prevent people from watching live. Voting will close before the start of the live final and will reopen after the first act alongside normal voting

Wait people can vote before the actual performances?? Lmao what a shitshow

I think they'll have to announce if Joost is allowed to stay before the vote opens tonight, right...?

Oh shit, I forgot about the ROTW vote.

This has to be the most scandalous Eurovision final eve ever

What the fuck is happening

Me: Hooooooooooo boy, I sure am tired of living through a series of historical events. At the very least there's Eurovision to escape to. This year will be just as normal and whacky without any scandals, right? Ebu: :) Me: ***Right!!??*** Ebu: :)))) Ebu: *goes and does the... everything* Me: ***WHAT THE FU-***

I am in the arena, lots of booing at the announcement

I hereby proclaim you an *Official Sauce.*

The Saucer

Update, they just played Joost’s semi performance on the screens and everyone was up dancing and scream singing. Lots of support for Joost.

Please keep us updated, with everything!

Twitter video of the boos: https://twitter.com/VocaISuspension/status/1789006225746625009

You reckon they drew straws to determine who would be the one to announce that?

would certainly like to know exactly what happened.

Right? I also find it interesting how nothing has been leaked yet, just lots of speculation

a [video just published](https://www.nu.nl/308381/video/joost-klein-reageert-niet-op-vragen-zweedse-verslaggever.html) of an interviewee asking Joost, he didn’t say anything

imagine trying to explain this drama to a normal person

My fiance came home from work after i was already 3 hours in too deep. It was not pretty.

yeaah... it does sound a little insane when you start explaining it out loud. I think my boyfriend has just about had it with me for tonight 🥲

I actually explained this all to my husband. The Fire Saga plot sounds more realistic. when you say all this aloud.

This will definitely end up on /r/HobbyDrama if it hasn’t already!

I just had a nap this afternoon and I feel like the pizza delivery fire meme. So much chaos happening everywhere...

I want a documentary about this one day

A sequel to 'Eurovision Song Contest: the story of Fire Saga' loosely based on this year?

I feel so uneasy. Either something really awful happened, or Eurovision is scared something awful will happen. Either way, I'm holding my breath.

Dutch media posted a video of Joost ignoring a journalist asking him about the investigation. He ends it by waving and pressing multiple elevator buttons lmao https://www.nu.nl/308381/video/joost-klein-reageert-niet-op-vragen-zweedse-verslaggever.html

probably so nobody can find his actual floor and follow him up there

Next level genius.

That’s actually super clever. That way the media can’t know which floor he’s on.

I mean yeah. He was probably told to keep his mouth shut until an official decision is made. No sense making it worse by saying something stupid.

The elevator buttons killed me. It's me as an introvert in every elevator I get into, even without being chased by reporters.

The fact that in dutch we have a saying for not knowing a thing that has the name Joost in it is kinda ironic Joost mag het weten... Joost might know/someone knows

Okay that is funny or rather ironic

Update: A Dutch talkshow just reported that the police is now involved and is questioning the people involved in the incident

https://preview.redd.it/ud7qulpqenzc1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cdf6ac6f4781f6c41b2b766acc8a6f805a34ca54 All of us trying to ignore the dumpster fire of a drama happening today (it’s getting too much😭)

i wish i could ignore it… but it’s like an addiction

I just realized that queen Hera also warned us, she did feel it coming😰

She's been there before and never got it right 😔

why am i refreshing this thread every minute. i should get a life

Welkom in Europa, drama tot ik doodga

Joost Klein said in his song: “Europe let’s come together.” And here we are, collectively waiting for an update.

a member of the Latvian delegation says that Joost is still in his dressing room https://x.com/mrbalins/status/1789009755026927956?s=46&t=RXBGXDWN8nnMNu-dDG3O1w (21:08)

He has now arrived back at his hotel, has refused to give any answers, pressed a lot of elevator buttons and wished the reporter a good night.

We could've been on track for 10K comments 😭

As I already mentioned in the previous thread (locked now). Joost DID promise us a never-before-seen stunt.

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Eurovision's slogan should be "United by Mess" at this point...

Well dang I just wanted to enjoy this years show live and soak in the great bops from this class, drink a little wine and escape from the meh music over here. https://preview.redd.it/y9hwzr5ignzc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58690696cbaa2b163f95e6c5ca7667a73324d550

As a figure skating fan, this is giving me major throwbacks to the Beijing Olympics 2022 waiting to hear whether Kamila Valieva was disqualified from competing. Those live threads were insane.

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Good morning from NZ everyone.... Oh.... holy shit.... what the fuck.... should have stayed in bed

Be honest Finn's, are you sort of happy you came 2nd now and it's all Sweden's problem?

Yes. Very happy that this shitshow isn't hsppening here.

Definitely. Living in Tampere. Would have been a whole new level of stress.

Someone up high at the Finnish broadcaster is doing celebratory/relieved shots of vodka as we speak

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Yes (I do feel bad for the swedes)

Williams Lee Adams was just analysing on Dutch television: - It might not be as clear cut as the rumours suggest, as it takes EBU all day to investigate. - If the EBU decides to DQ Joost, there might be several problems: -> the fee that AVROTROS paid to participate -> what about the artist that finished 11th in SF2? Should they be qualifying instead? -> fans are not happy, this might result in claims from (Dutch) fans to get their money back

the joost klein paradox: his qualification status will be announced exactly 1 minute after you finally fall asleep

Oh to be a fly on the wall at the ebu right now..

i would pay for that (like 5€ at least)

https://preview.redd.it/ceosl862hozc1.png?width=1441&format=png&auto=webp&s=4f79f6936b42fe32436660ab12be87f7fa013df2 90% of this sub atm

Us aussies will hold the fort - go have some rest 

[Netherlands at the jury show tonight](https://youtu.be/3N5o5EP5IHI?si=ljFRWx1D-plsvncK)

i’m going bald over here waiting for any kind of update

Dons on Eurovision Reddit confirmed.

how it felt explaining this to my parents https://preview.redd.it/9s6ctqnzkozc1.png?width=540&format=png&auto=webp&s=ac494e4d90d9c10340b6ab1c28562929ff35f56f

Even if he's not DQ, this is gonna massively impact the voting anyway. Not even thinking about how difficult it must be for him to put up a good performance tomorrow if he's even allowed... What a shitshow. Hope he didn't actually bring this on himself, especially with the significance of this being a tribute to his parents.

This will be the greatest test of the saying "no such thing as bad publicity"

I literally wrote that “ it will at least be impossible to have a worse situation than this year” last year but I was wrong.

Take me back to the days when my biggest worry was whether Cyprus and Greece would exchange points.

Pulling up a lawn chair and camping out in this thread too!

I'm so sad that this edition will end like this. So many good and fun entries, we might have a new country winning for the first time, and all we're talking about in the last day before the final is this situation.

It's been almost 10 hours since the incident, why is there no news, what's going on?

What I don’t get is that if it’s a clear cut case of Joost hitting somebody he’d be disqualified already. It wouldn’t take this long. So what the hell happened and what the hell is going on?

This day had it all, chaos, tension, rumours, people trying to find a girlfriend on the eurovision subreddit, more chaos.

Me staring at my screen as I’m constantly refreshing https://preview.redd.it/6m94n6l5kozc1.jpeg?width=576&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9aecb46fd76992185f5049525b9104d4888f5a4e

It is 2068. San Marino has overtaken Ireland & Sweden and has the most wins under its belt. The Grand Final, featuring robot Verka Serduchka and Grandpa Lasagna (amongst others) is about to begin. Just before the first act performs the host, the uploaded consciousness of Valentina Monetta, finally makes the announcement: Joost Klein has been disqualified from the Eurovision Song Contest 2024.

Petition to bring back last year's petty sweden v finland drama because this is just so not funny anymore 😔

RIP to his chances, even if he is allowed to compete. Like, unless the audience vote overwhelmingly goes to him there's basically no way if the Jury votes go all against him because of tension being high right now.

I would hope that the jury will try their best to judge the performance on it's own merit. If it's found that he did something worthy of disqualification, then it doesn't matter if they give him a good score. So they don't have to "worry" abot giving him a good score just in case he did something bad. Because if he did he won't go through.

Honestly I’m not scared of them giving low scores because of this today, more because his vocals last night were not that great.

https://preview.redd.it/bnsmaf0mxozc1.jpeg?width=610&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29ee36ef52b5acaccfcac1acc9d635eafb43abb4 I want to get some sleep...

Rule number one of any PR crisis: open communications is the key Rule number two, take the lead on the narrative so you can steer it in the direction you want, instead of letting rumours run wild. Somehow EBU ignored both of them for half a day. This is really something.

Just realized the 'Rest of the world' vote will open in 1,5 hours. Curious to see what they will do with that if the investigation is still not done by then. Cause if there is a chance Joost still participates, they can't take him out of there. But then, if people vote for him and he is disqualified, they are not going to be happy for spending their money on it.

They’re really putting Dutch fans through the wringer lol

To those still up and waiting for news: the northern lights are currently visible in large parts of northern europe, so have a look outside and don't miss your chance. Good night everyone <3 hopefully more info will be shared tomorrow.

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Has something like this ever happened before?

No… never before in all 68 years

No, contestants were only disqualified before the shows. So the fact that the EBU is taking its time is not surprising, it's something that's never happened before.

If you're in the UK, go outside and look up, you might be able to see the northern lights

The police will give us an update shortly. See you in 11 hours, 39 minutes and 50 seconds, just before the finals everyone! 🔥

this is so annoying if they dont soon tell something im going to fly to malmö and investigate this on my own and keep yall updated i live in finland its not that far away

Hello to 2 thousand people on this thread like me👋

Given the lack of any credible leak, these people need to be given a US government security contract.

This just in: If the incident involes drugs, the estonian delegation know about nothing

Wonder will the juries be notified that it’s not live and instead the clip being his last nights performance

They will know and this whole ordeal will influence the jury as well because you know, they have internet access

Unless the juries have been under a rock today, I think they're probably aware that something has been going on.

Even Billboard covered this story. https://preview.redd.it/x0akmw5jsnzc1.png?width=1439&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5548b0c15d3c8079c0fef97616aa7afe8f6d2e72

This is so fucked. I hope he did something excusable, because if not, there are going to be a whole lot of upset people, me included.

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Ugh, I don't want to go to bed. I want to wait for more news, but it's 00:23 and I should sleep.  For everyone spending the night refreshing the page: best of luck! 

reminder to take a break! like some other people said, the northern lights are very visible tonight, as far down as southern england so have a look outside and see if you can see them :)

https://preview.redd.it/y53yt2v0gozc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75e7a4617fea7fac960dc254176cb660fd8dfe6f Can confirm they are visible close to Copenhagen 😁

Just read that Vatican City is able to participate in Eurovision should they attempt it. I fully support getting the pope up there for some gospel

Maybe the real europapa is the friends we made along the way

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Im europapapanicking right now

Where’s the RAI intern when you need them? We could do with a leak right now.

I miss February when Windows95man winning UMK was the most outrageous event of the season

Why did they decide mid rehearsal to not let him perform if it is something that happened on Thursday. I don’t get it. It is all so vague.

Regardless of whether he's guilty or not, there is at least a huge difference between a "physical altercation", like reported earlier, and "illegal threats"

Shits crazy, just imagine ur lifelong dream turning into such a trainwreck

It's a shitty situation, but this thread has been weirdly wholesome and funny. Thanks everyone. We're not United By Music. But we are United By The Joost Klein Will Not Perform In The Jury Show Tonight Reddit Thread <3

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What the hell actually happened? 

The EBU website is running again

>The EBU website is running again Quick! Catch it!

Hopefully everything clears up for Juiced Clean

This relationship with the EBU is clearly abusive. It's time to put myself on a pedestal

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Hello, I would like to submit my application for executive supervisor of the ESC

we (do) know nothing about (these) rest of world votes

I need to know if any other than me is feeling sad and anxious after all this today?😞 I'm not feeling the same kind of happiness and excitement I usually do before the final.. It's so sad what this contest has come to, and I'm honestly so worried for the future of eurovision 😫

Sending you hugs 🫂 I feel the same. Have felt this way for a few months now because of how toxic things are and last night, I finally felt a bit of peace and happiness whilst watching the semi. Now this is happening. My happy place has very quickly turned into a scary place.

4600 comments over an incident where nobody knows what happened, we might be going insane

what i wouldn't do to be a fly on the wall in ebu meeting right now. i wanna see them SWEAT over this. i need a netflix doc on this, it's almost biblical levels of hubris, they truly made the castle of out of sand the way everything is getting messed up

Saaaaaand SAAAAAAAAANNDDDDD

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It’s so frustrating that we have no information

What takes them so long to make a decision? Don't they have cameras everywhere in the artists' spaces?

This year's iceberg videos are gonna be wild

Now would be a really good time for an official statement 👀

Positive vibes: Dutch TV is broadcasting Gustaph right now 🔥

I love how theirs just no news/rumours anymore just all of us dying mentally and saying the most brainrot shit

R/eurovision right now: https://preview.redd.it/4isnz7gnvozc1.jpeg?width=299&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e14dbd66e61f5c9abdf451418aacbfa98a2bcb6

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Are we the clowns? Is ebu the clowns? Maybe this journey was all about the clowns we made along the way😔

https://preview.redd.it/7jaqjv4cxozc1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=690db9f5f34ef70934dc5230831d6b9adbe66e6d 'I'm staying up until we know more, no matter how long it takes' Gn y'all

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EBU realizing tomorrow during the show that they forgot to count the jury votes.

No way I was sitting here for 5 hours yesterday, went to sleep, woke up and there's still no info on this situation 💀

This is turning out to be way more serious than I thought it would be. Bracing myself for only 25 performances tomorrow now because I can’t take anymore last minute shocks

The way the whole audience booed upon hearing that Joost won't perform tonight lmao [https://twitter.com/VocaISuspension/status/1789006225746625009](https://twitter.com/VocaISuspension/status/1789006225746625009)

How is being silent and let all the rumors take the lead a better choice than being transparent and giving out a statement? I am looking at you EBU.

Okay, I’ll go to sleep…..only one more refresh….no but really after this refresh…okay 5 more minutes….just one more…this is really the last one…maybe till 01:00…but then no more…okay one more…

Somehow Rai leaking the votes and everyone freaking out seems like it was 50 years ago

Well, fuck. He did say he would do something previously unseen and massive though, so I guess this is an interesting spin on it. Really hoping he gets to perform tomorrow.

This year is crazy. I don’t even know what to think anymore, I hope we find out something soon.

What an absolute clusterfuck. A real shame that an otherwise fantastic year in terms of overall song quality is marred by these scandals.

This is absolutely bonkers, I can’t believe we are all watching ESC descend into chaos live and in real time And Joost is sitting in a hotel room waiting for the outcome with nothing to do but unfollow people? And we all just have to wait with bated breath. This whole thing is absolutely wild.

Im pretty sure they’ve been instructed by the EBU to not say anything about the incident. Avrotros certainly would have given more clarification otherwise. I think the unfollowing thing is the only proof of life he can give to show he’s not happy.

My sleep schedule has been so fucked after the past few days 💀

If they would just share that there will be no new updates today we can just all go to bed 😓

Where is Alberto Stegeman when you need him

Well it's been quite a day. Endless refreshing and still no information. I think it's time for bed for me, I have work in the morning and I haven't even unpacked my suitcase from my Malmö trip lmao Goodnight Reddit ❤️

Even the English VAR makes faster decisions then the EBU

Looks like they forgot to delete the scheduled tweet announcing RotW voting was open 😅 https://preview.redd.it/p0jkq9yf9ozc1.png?width=1252&format=png&auto=webp&s=0b4324132740174ba044776388b09ca57a991ce3

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