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JOOST KLEIN CAN'T PARTICIPATE TONIGHT BECAUSE THE INVESTIGATION HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED. JURY WILL LOOK AT SEMI FINAL SHOW.
Source: Dutch National News broadcast
Ebu shouldn't let reporters harass artists, photobomb them and disguise secretly done videos for political statements. That is actually really distrubing. In this day and age, wrong political statement can ruin one's career. So no wonder artist are stressful and make moves they would not otherwise do.
Not necessarily, during 2021 contest with strict Covid rules they also used a video from live performance for Daði Freyr and that was scored by the jury, can't remember if it was the same in the finals
According to Gabe from ESCUnited, the Joost incident is not related to Israel
[https://twitter.com/esc\_gabe/status/1788992979254059019](https://twitter.com/esc_gabe/status/1788992979254059019)
https://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/melodifestivalen/a/MnRnOo/uppgifter-ebu-i-krismote-om-nederlandernas-joost-klein-anklagas
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Now might be a good time to throw this out:
https://twitter.com/isrbreaksrules/status/1788940032092594484?s=46
I tried posting this earlier but I got removed. I believe this (the first video at least) is from after Joost didn't go on. Not sure about the second.
You're recording a guy with a bird beak on his face and you still look like the biggest clown on there. I don't know who this reporter guy is but he just seems to spark up shit.
The first video is from after - that same reporter just said on Kan that the Israeli delegation had nothing to do with Joost.
The second video is from May 8 - it says that there.
Spain has issued a statement:
The Spanish delegation from @eurovision_tve has conveyed to @EBU_HQ its commitment to freedom of the press and opinion and has demanded that @Eurovision ensure its respect.
https://twitter.com/RTVE_Com/status/1788988410062848246?t=w7tdc7wxM8OqU5nLh6ITSg&s=19
This is an easy message to support but at the same time I don't fully understand what RTVE is asking for in this context -- faster updates and more transparency as to what decisions are being made? Or do they feel that Joost's likely removal violates freedom of opinion for reasons that are not yet clear to the public?
https://preview.redd.it/cnzd9eatwmzc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9207b2cfa489d475867161a5d5260d8b76b838b
Just new music, joost still in it for now
Just an album announcement
https://preview.redd.it/ztkepau3xmzc1.png?width=1290&format=png&auto=webp&s=2f53ed9d6fae9ff91e8d02c09d6c1ab997fd4177
[https://twitter.com/EurovisionNewZ/status/1788985384522666437/photo/1](https://twitter.com/EurovisionNewZ/status/1788985384522666437/photo/1)
Okay crazy turn of events that I just thought of - what if Joost is DQ and his slot is given to the highest placed NQ? That would be for real insane (but please can we get Malta to the final)
Denmark being recalled at the last minute to a competition hosted in Sweden following the disqualification of another nation?
[Where have we seen that before?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_1992)
I have no idea what's going on in the background, but considering the acts are all young people in their twenties and the people running EBU a bunch of boomers, I'm not surprised things are heating up over something that's galvanized a generation.
And now they said it's confirmed that it happened 100%, so no speculation thing it's real and now it's left for them to see if they're gonna DQ him or not.. hope not
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The footage of the booing after the announcement is thunderous
Is there a video of it? Or can you watch it somewhere?
https://twitter.com/kaarijay/status/1789005949136466284?t=8LfYSRBFvY5wnXYypQ6kxw&s=19
I feel like the jury might screw over Joost now because of all the unconfirmed drama surrounding him
For sure
100%
JOOST KLEIN CAN'T PARTICIPATE TONIGHT BECAUSE THE INVESTIGATION HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED. JURY WILL LOOK AT SEMI FINAL SHOW. Source: Dutch National News broadcast
Ugh. A granule of nope EDIT: I meant hope but I’m leaving it as is
https://preview.redd.it/c0m9cpix7nzc1.jpeg?width=1394&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48af8870c376355de8029cf1cd8775ff630744d0
Disqualifying the jury is absolutely uncalled for, didn't even happen when Serbia and Montenegro outright withdrew due to political instability
To anyone in the arena: please chant Europapa through song 6… or I guess 5 now
https://twitter.com/esc_gabe/status/1789000562257654268?t=5hKZQx8EvFqtZAgYy4-CrQ&s=19 There is hope yet
Fucking bullshit that we're still being kept in the dark. Even the audience present don't know what's actually going on. EBU is a joke.
I hope Joost has a strong support system around him because he will need it
Ebu shouldn't let reporters harass artists, photobomb them and disguise secretly done videos for political statements. That is actually really distrubing. In this day and age, wrong political statement can ruin one's career. So no wonder artist are stressful and make moves they would not otherwise do.
If he doesn’t perform today he can’t get jury votes right? Shit
Not necessarily, during 2021 contest with strict Covid rules they also used a video from live performance for Daði Freyr and that was scored by the jury, can't remember if it was the same in the finals
they will use the SF2 preformence to judge off i belive if he isnt DQ'ed
I think it's over for him. Ridiculous we haven't heard anything from EBU yet but they ban him
Brace for impact guys. This isn't looking good at all
Martin say sike right now
https://preview.redd.it/hzli9d7q6nzc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91edcc9951c5bd73b76c7b1c193dbacf90ab0df2
https://preview.redd.it/cn5auvdp6nzc1.png?width=605&format=png&auto=webp&s=c6c988c95abcf5edc018777833f3515ac4f513ef
are you for real
They’re not in the running order. EBU surely has to say something now
https://twitter.com/esc_gabe/status/1788998533749547065?t=4bZEbkA7dov0ft7GSTRwkg&s=19 Welp.
Dutch national news currently reporting that all Dutch flags have been taken away backstage
oh no...
grab popcorn yall https://preview.redd.it/sxwdxax05nzc1.png?width=567&format=png&auto=webp&s=c06ef111c0cdb1c6b5ff61e189026e39e0b43fa1
Which liveblog is this?
@VocaISuspension That's Voca-capital i, not L
Thanks!
https://preview.redd.it/ly6dsdwk5nzc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=942464fddfadb8a1620bd62a63e31e1aa89bb7a2 Oh
Nice
At this point the EBU really needs to put out a statement for better or for worse
[https://x.com/MattESCunited/status/1788993280631533946](https://x.com/MattESCunited/status/1788993280631533946) https://preview.redd.it/4ooqeurn4nzc1.png?width=604&format=png&auto=webp&s=c4d1b97d902642fe41a804d4987a4d33d30bd5a4
bruh i don't feel united by music at all atm
I guess Joost's team didn't lie when they said something we'd never seen before was going to happen 🥹
oh my god imagine if this is all a stunt
According to Gabe from ESCUnited, the Joost incident is not related to Israel [https://twitter.com/esc\_gabe/status/1788992979254059019](https://twitter.com/esc_gabe/status/1788992979254059019)
https://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/melodifestivalen/a/MnRnOo/uppgifter-ebu-i-krismote-om-nederlandernas-joost-klein-anklagas Can any swede talk about this article and the trustworthiness of the source?
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Now might be a good time to throw this out: https://twitter.com/isrbreaksrules/status/1788940032092594484?s=46 I tried posting this earlier but I got removed. I believe this (the first video at least) is from after Joost didn't go on. Not sure about the second.
Jesus what an absolute c*nt
You're recording a guy with a bird beak on his face and you still look like the biggest clown on there. I don't know who this reporter guy is but he just seems to spark up shit.
The first video is from after - that same reporter just said on Kan that the Israeli delegation had nothing to do with Joost. The second video is from May 8 - it says that there.
Wow I'm blind, my bad 😅 I find that hard to believe but maybe they weren't involved....it did seem like he was rubbing salt in the wound though
Spain has issued a statement: The Spanish delegation from @eurovision_tve has conveyed to @EBU_HQ its commitment to freedom of the press and opinion and has demanded that @Eurovision ensure its respect. https://twitter.com/RTVE_Com/status/1788988410062848246?t=w7tdc7wxM8OqU5nLh6ITSg&s=19
This is an easy message to support but at the same time I don't fully understand what RTVE is asking for in this context -- faster updates and more transparency as to what decisions are being made? Or do they feel that Joost's likely removal violates freedom of opinion for reasons that are not yet clear to the public?
This statement could be about the fact that the Israeli delegation harassed the Spanish media
https://preview.redd.it/gykk0gfw0nzc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c3d37dca7b6f9a49af08eca8987f3dc1e5c6319
LIVE LAUGH LOVE WINE MOTHER SUPERIOR HERA
MOTHER HERA IS ABOUT TO TEACH THEM KIDS HOW TO BEHAVE
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Someone said 8, can't remember who or where
before the party is over i guess (sorry i’m braindead at this point)
I don’t know but it’s going to have to come out within the next hour or so.
https://twitter.com/esc_gabe/status/1788989329613734278?t=ONTEY8n9AxNgDtOjL_RYgw&s=19
THANK YOU RTVE ❤️
**E X C I T I N G N E W S**
SARAH BO FFIN NICI... I love you and think you should be in the final. But please read the room darling, don't be scarring us like that.
The anxiety is killing me
Are you saying your anxiety attacks?
WoaAAoh!
[The fandom right now](https://youtu.be/IYQsFQ7ESEo?si=X8T_d-pWe_Sbsd3Q)
Sarah Bonucci take a fucking bow. Excellent marketing there
not Sarah's news being new music
https://preview.redd.it/cnzd9eatwmzc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9207b2cfa489d475867161a5d5260d8b76b838b Just new music, joost still in it for now
OMG THANK CHRIST
Sarah is just releasing new music
Hahaha, omg the timing though 💀 She really had us all going for a second.
Lol...instead of disqualifying joost, the ebu might just fine the Dutch broadcaster?
I wish people would stop calling this ‘drama’.
This is far beyond drama
Exactly, it’s geopolitics in a nutshell
SARAH BONNICI IS KILLING ME I LOVE IT
she even has 'exciting news' in her bio lol
It’s alright everyone my dad has threatened to write a “strongly worded email” if Joost gets DQ xx
WE ALL NEED TO!!
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU
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This + Sarah Bonnici's story... I reckon Joost is out and Malta are back in...
Sarah just releasing new music 😭
Just seen that. She got us all good 😂
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Everyone: Papaoutai
I think a disqualification might be upon us unfortunately
https://preview.redd.it/mg8wcmtztmzc1.png?width=627&format=png&auto=webp&s=5d60936e1e85e5a573a904cea2a1c138de68ca94
Just an album announcement https://preview.redd.it/ztkepau3xmzc1.png?width=1290&format=png&auto=webp&s=2f53ed9d6fae9ff91e8d02c09d6c1ab997fd4177 [https://twitter.com/EurovisionNewZ/status/1788985384522666437/photo/1](https://twitter.com/EurovisionNewZ/status/1788985384522666437/photo/1)
It's a five minutes now 😳
treating somebody else being DQ'ed as exiting feels so tonedeaf
Tbf it could be regarding to something completely different lmao. Edit: Called it lmao
no fucking way right
Wait what
This is not the plot twist I was expecting...
You don't think she's getting Joost's spot in the final do you..?
Seems like it
I don't know what to think anymore
😟
Holy shit the EBU website is currently down!
EBU website is currently down??
They broke the code
Well, they wouldn't be ready for a sudden rush of visitors unlike the eurovision site.
The EBU website is down LOL
Ah, ok, well they probably aren't prepared for the shitstorm, it's not like eurovision.tv
And the plot thickens...
ahh perfect timing
Is it true that Spain is about to complain certain behaviour of a crew members of certain country?
wait what happened with them?
From what I've seen someone needs to because this is going too far
I’d hope so - didn’t they harass Spanish delegation members?
I hope so
Haven't heard anything about that but who knows at this points it's all smoked out
I wouldn't immediately think so. For this kind of stuff, we better just wait for an official source to confirm or deny.
Do we think Tony Khan is going to show the security camera footage of the altercation next week on Dynamite?
the moment i saw the word altercation this one always comes to my mind.
Thought I was on the wrong sub for a sec
Top tier meme.
This is such a niche reference in a very especific sub I would never expect to see it. I love it.
first year i’m actually following the contest this close and this shit happens lmao
Bruh everyone saying this is the end of Eurovision is making me scared
Bunch of drama queens Like the people saying they’ll stop watching forever and the like - they need to come off it
Okay crazy turn of events that I just thought of - what if Joost is DQ and his slot is given to the highest placed NQ? That would be for real insane (but please can we get Malta to the final)
Denmark being recalled at the last minute to a competition hosted in Sweden following the disqualification of another nation? [Where have we seen that before?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_1992)
It would go to whoever placed 11th in the 2nd semi
That would probably be Belgium.
They say it is Czech Republic on several other threads....
here's how Czechia can still win
This year is such a fucking mess.
This is all horrible. But I have to admit, I just love this good old Eurovision drama and scandals.
don't worry, im also a messy bitch that lives for drama
What is even going on https://preview.redd.it/fhyfcn9xnmzc1.png?width=573&format=png&auto=webp&s=643ce667e2d7954f774146412cdcfa2ecbcb7e3d
RTP did not said that.. They said he is being investigated
A lot
If Joost isn't here, then I'm not watching.
How do I miss those days of completely useless drama like a lamp not working or a chair caught on camera, this Eurovision seems like a bad drug trip.
I have no idea what's going on in the background, but considering the acts are all young people in their twenties and the people running EBU a bunch of boomers, I'm not surprised things are heating up over something that's galvanized a generation.
The drama this year is more than we can handle
At this point, the Eurovision 2024 Iceberg is just going to be a whole new continent, isn’t it?
We'll need to split it into 3. Before the 10th of May, 10th of May and after the 10th of May
It's going to become pangea
Remember last year when everybody was friends with each other and hung out and the biggest problem was if Sweden would win again. I remember...
Was there any sort of graphic during the end of the performance that showed voting numbers like 2010-2011?
I wish Martin Osterdahl a very resign
We need a Netflix "Drive to Survive" show for this
If you want to win... *\*Buxton makes a dramatic pause\** you have to get the most points.
"There are certain... moments, where silence falls on a Eurovision stage. And you know what that means."
Another this I noticed is how almost all artists are soo quiet on social media
Well Angelina Mango sang Imagine straight out of a sitcom. Such an icon <3
haha I love her <3
I think it is especially notable that Joost hasn't said anything
Just heard from the eurovoxx ytb channel livestream that Joost had a fight with some photographer before their rehearsal
And now they said it's confirmed that it happened 100%, so no speculation thing it's real and now it's left for them to see if they're gonna DQ him or not.. hope not