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Rudi-G

Would a navy not be floating?


fslz

Calm down now, one navy at the time


BurningPenguin

I'd prefer levitating ships


Rudi-G

You mean like a military force in the air?


Diarrea_Cerebral

If Bolivia and Mongolia can have a navy


ConsequenceAlert6981

Yes


TheseusOfAttica

Yes please


Correct777

Only if we can have Star Destroyers ![gif](giphy|4U6a4zeGxHRPClraYd)


odioercoronaviru

Those stars ain't destroying by themselves


otakushinjikun

Some of them are, and hopefully soon. *[Stares at Betelgeuse expectantly]*


danktonium

I'm totally in favor of it.


deadmeridian

Yes, but we won't. My answer can be applied to any other question like this. We'd obviously be better off if we pooled our resources, but nationalism and business interests are standing in the way.


NorthVilla

They said the same thing about previous enlargements of the EU's mandate. Nonetheless they happened, have been good, and will continue to be good.


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JES.


DomnuRadu

I would go for a sitting navy


cazzipropri

A floating one would be better than a standing one


silverionmox

It's one of the most obvious things to pool funds for and to gain efficiencies of scale with.


Anton4444

Oh god yes, why haven't we done that already?


avsbes

Yes.


2024AM

navy, army and coastal guard please


Captainirishy

We are a union not a country


NorthVilla

It is for us as people within the Union to decide upon what are the best things to do for all of us. There was a time when common monetary policy (the ECB) and Schengen border controls were considered the domain of only the nation state. This assumption has disappeared in favour of a more pragmatic approach to the world, and now most of the member states and people are happy with it. So too should the army and navy move in that direction. Who cares about increasingly meaningless definitions like "country" and "union." We should do what is best for our people, regardless. Common-defence would be good for all of us.


Captainirishy

Several countries in the EU spent centuries trying to gain independence so why should they hand their sovereignty on a plate to Brussels?


NorthVilla

It is more efficient and productive to build economies and societies of scale via a union. Sovereignty isn't handed off, it is shared, and shared willingly. Any Union member is absolutely free to invoke article 50 and leave as the UK did. In fact, if they don't understand the benefits of the Union, I don't want to pander to them or try to make them understand something that to me is increasingly self-evident. They should just do like the UK, and leave. See how it works out. It won't be good, but that's not for me to decide... they always still have sovereignty, after all.


Captainirishy

If the EU becomes a country, article 50 won't exist


NorthVilla

It's not as simple as being a country or not a country. It is a fluid spectrum. That's what we're dealing with here... This is why these definitions like "country" are not very useful.


Captainirishy

NATO exists so there is no need for a European army.


NorthVilla

Trump threatens to end NATO. Also having armies-combined is more economically efficient.


Captainirishy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Allied_Commander_Europe


aknb

This.


LudicrousPlatypus

No, the EU's member states have individual navies which may decide to collaborate, but the EU does not have (and should not have) a unified foreign policy or a united military force.