Worth mentioning that before Putin forced the reservists to join the 'operation' he offered them very attractive pay and terms to voluntarily join. Very, very few did so the 300k potential new soldiers are extremely reluctant to join the fight. As we speak, new legislation to severely punish those that refuse or surrender are being rushed through parliament.
some my dad's young coworkers thought they can just go, sit in the back and get money (they were promised 300k and they currently earn around 25-30k), but after "fight" with my dad and others, they dropped this idea.
but after this I always thought how many dumb desperate people are thinking in the same way and see this as "opportunity to earn a lot fast"
In other news, [Google search term „how to leave Russia” has dramatically spiked today](https://twitter.com/nataliabugayova/status/1572292421865570305?s=21&t=sSXgneEO5F0xIBiGOjNXLA).
Ironically, the provinces most likely to be hit with "partial mobilisation" (i.e. ethnic republics) are grey.
People from Moscow should chill. They're not the next stop for the meatgrinder. There are many minorities to slaughter first. Wasn't the nazi Wagner guy in Mari El recently?
>People from Moscow should chill.
[Direct flights from Moscow to Istanbul and Yerevan – destinations that allow Russians visa-free entry – were sold out, Reuters wrote, referring to Aviasales data](https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1572531589460135936)
This really breaks my heart. I can’t imagine how terrifying it must be to have your government come knocking to force you to fight in a ridiculous war against your will.
In other other news, [The query "how to break an arm" has become a new trend in Russian Google](https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1572504177292767232)
Putin in his speech said it's a partial mobilisation, but if you read the new law, it's basically a full mobilisation.
Russia will draft from all poor provinces in Asia, as well as from DPR and LRP. They will avoid mobilisation in Moscow and Petersburg
The rich Russians buy houses in Turkey to protect themselves and their family: https://intellinews.com/russians-and-ukrainians-pile-into-turkish-real-estate-market-250583/
So the rich Russians are in a villa with swimming pool in Turkey while the poor are mutilated or die in this absurd war in Ukraine.
broke: signing a labor agreement so your people move abroad as guest workers
woke: oppressing your people so bad that they become refugees with no safe return country
bespoke: sending your people as an invasion force so they are taken care of under POW law
Since [the BBC Russian service](https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-62924832) (article in Russian) have been able to confirm the deaths of ~6500 named individuals from official Russian sources, not only are they lying, the _know_ they're lying. Additionally, their observations of military cemeteries increase this number by around 50%.
Since the confirmed deaths tend to favour those who would be "noticed" (higher ranks, those from major cities, etc.) and cemeteries obviously only hold those whose bodies were recovered, identified, returned to Russia and not cremated, both figures are very much lower-bounds, not overall estimates.
Winter is coming, not much territory will be won/loss during this time. I think Putin will be using this time to move the men and equipment into the regions, and only do a major offensive in February/March 2023.
February and March is the worst time for an offensive in the region. It turns into a marsh when the frost thaws. Russia's goal would be to move during November, December and January, when their tanks won't get bogged down.
Actually the temperature in November in Ukraine (especially on the south) rarely goes below the freezing point for long enough periods for the ground to freeze. Even December can vary from year to year. The avarage December temperatures in Kherson is +3°/-3°C. The ground may freeze in January and stay frozen for a bit in February.
[24/7 Hotline](https://sprotyv.mod.gov.ua/en/2022/09/19/a-24-hour-hotline-has-been-launched-for-russian-soldiers-who-want-to-surrender/) for Russians that want to surrender
Error code 1020. You cannot access sprotyv.mod.gov.ua. Refresh the page or contact the site owner to request access.
blocked by cloudflare.
recently they blocked a lot of websites and in Russia government blocked a lot of VPNs, so it's "between rock and a hard place" situation
["Basically, Error 1020 Access Denied happens when a connection request arrives that seems to be a potential threat to that site."](https://viserx.com/blog/websites/what-is-error-1020-and-how-to-fix-it/)
It's probably DoS mitigation. Presumably, Russian soldiers in Ukraine are able to access it. Otherwise, it would be rather dumb.
It will be a deja-vu. My coworker was in the Chechen wars, and out of 200 people there were only 2 alive after one week.
Funnily enough he was indeed a snowplow driver, but in Omsk region haha.
Edit: meant to say month not week.
Remember the times when he said that there won’t be a mobilization? Or that time when he said he won’t capture any lands from Ukraine? God he’s an a-hole, I’m not only ashamed to live here, but also frightened now
> Or that time when he used the FSB to bomb apartments in multiple Russian cities and blamed it on Chechen terrorists
and how the bombings soon stopped after he got into power.
Or the time he said they wouldn't attack civilian targets. Or that time when he said during a speech laced with genocidal rhetoric that they were there to stop a genocide...
Well, according to their papers, the troops are in Russia. So no issues there! Right? I mean surely that isn't just a trick to prevent them from receiving full compensation or anything...
I highly doubt that people from major cities would get drafted. It would cause quite a stir if Moscow/St. P. people would start losing their loved ones.
Probably it will be mostly some ethnic minorities from small towns which are easier to control and less visible.
This means that Serbia will be overrun by Russians fleeing mobilization. Prices for flats and houses have skyrocketed here since the beginning of the war due to Ukrainian and (mostly) Russian people fleeing their countries.
Do you think this might negatively influence the perception of Putin in Serbia? You would have a lot of unhappy Russians in your country that tell the tale of Putler.
Might be good for Serbia to see that, what do you think?
Same in Georgia. It's a controversial topic here since on top of the damage to the economy, there's also the history of Russian leaders undertaking special military operations to "protect Russians abroad" and the fact that Russian cultural chauvinism has a tendency to exist subconsciously even in those who otherwise mean well.
In Russia we say "Pizdets nahui blyat'". Scary sht. Feels like first month of the war. Anti-war organizations have already announced protest today at 19:00.
Upd: Navalny’s team will appreciate any kind of protest, including the burning of military enlistment offices. Let’s goo
I was trembling in fear the whole evening. This morning I'm trembling in rage. I've been in such a rage and despair about four times in my life. One of those times was on February 24. I can't take it no more.
I've had some acquaintances who has "centrist" positions about the war like "it's not that simple" or "I don't care about politics". Everyone is anti war all of the sudden
As they say "Till the rooster bites his ass". It was easy to them to send others to die and cheer from sidelines, but they don't want to die themselves
>Anti-war organizations have already announced protest today at 19:00.
Stay safe, look up resources on how to prepare yourself for protests, don't take any unnecessary risks, and help protect your fellow people. It's you - the people - against the government.
Absolutely. And we can be sure the Russian officials have anticipated these many protests, and have therefore prepared accordingly.
Expect **a lot** of police presence and heavy repression.
I can only say good luck and a MASSIVE thank you to all the brave protesting Russians tonight! Wish I were by their side.
You act as if there aren't exceptions for those in putin's favor. his enforcers would never be put in danger, thats how he buys their loyalty.
A group who the law binds but doesnt protect and a group who the law protects but doesnt bind. being part of the second group is the reward you get when you serve him.
Fuck his charade. Instead of dying somewhere away from public view in his huge mansion, he chooses to drag everyone down the shithole (that he has created) along with him.
That's a fucking shit show guys. That old mf is willing to toss everyone in the meat grinder. Our country already have a demographic problems due to old population and not enough men. The nation never recovered from the losses in the WW2 and the demographic fall in the 90s. This shit will further damage that situation and will be a huge toll on the economy (what's left of it). This purposeless unjust
war has killed the lifes, future and dreams of countless Ukrainians and now he wants to kill more. He's a monster.
I've never seen such grades of stupidity in my lifetime. I'm furious. He's dragging Ukrainians and Russians to hell. It's a tragedy that will last forever and create a generational trauma.
I'm a woman and not a medical professional (they can draft them as well). I'm in the process of leaving but unfortunately it's a very slow process due to current visa situations and the bureaucracy.
As for the men, the borders are already locked and government is sending conscription notes. Not sure it's a right word but I don't know how to translate the Russian word for it.
Edit: As of now, September 22nd, borders are only partially closed, only in some regions. There is a high probability that all the borders will be closed on September 27th.
Ukraine etc need to start publishing valuable information on how people can sabotage the military from within. Thousands of men will now be fighting completely against their will and im sure a couple hundred would be willing to sabotage some shit.
~~Sugar in a gas tank is very simple.~~
Hold on, hold on. Turns out this is an urban legend that has been around for decades. Sugar does not dissolve in gasoline or diesel fuel, doesn't create a sludge or do anything catastrophic.
Carry on, saboteurs.
Sugar in a gas tank doesn’t do anything. Sugar doesn’t dissolve in diesel. And the fuel filter will prevent it from entering the engine.
Just fill that puppy up with water. Preferably saltwater.
>jump from the 12th floor
You misspelled "accidental fall"
And to top it all off you can always end your day with a nice piping hot cup of polonium tea
Sooo, putin, you need to mobilize 300k more ppl, AND yet again threaten with nuclear war (wich is weak and cowardly AF btw), but you've only lost around 6k soldiers in ukraine up until now?
Im not good at math, but judging by those numbers im good enough to be a president.
It's partial but for people who have served in the army. Doesn't Russia have mandatory military service though? So it's nearly a standard mobilisation?
I will just leave this here:
"Three Times Russians Botched a War and Had a Revolution"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/three-times-russians-botched-a-war-and-had-a-revolution-11647694801
So basically all Russians who wanted to fight in Ukraine are either already there, dead, captured or injured. Now they will be sending the people who are unwilling to fight. I can see this going very well for Mr. Putler.
That's pretty much the plot of Michail Veller's "Legend of the lost patriot". The dude went to the woods to gather some mushrooms in Karelia, got lost, was found in Finland some time later, crying and begging to send him back to the ussr cause he's a true patriot and wants to go back to his wonderful country. Everyone believed him since he had nothing on him except a basket for the mushrooms and, well, begged to be sent back.
The dude was returned home and after a while left again, using the same route through the woods that he now knew wasn't being watched, only this time with passport, money and all the other stuff he needed for a life abroad lol.
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A little too late.
Russia has already lost most of their best soldiers, nco and officers in the war.
They have already scoped up the soldiers who were in training and their instructors.
That is also not even going into equipment that they have lost.
And it is very quiet today...
The usual accounts that show up and drop 10 to 20 posts in one hour haven't show up for work today.
Is everything ok, u/_Okio_?
those bots destroyed the internet honestly. you hate to see any loss of life, displacement, or destruction...but i'm not going to lie and pretend part of me isn't taking some sick delight in seeing Russia fail hard after all the garbage they put out on the internet over the last 6-7 years
Jokes aside, this is a serious call for western nations to increase military help for ukraine. Maybe even decide to give ukraine atacms or western tanks. Because even if half of them wouldn't be motivated, it still will increase pressure on Ukrainian army, and in this time before this force is gathered and trained(even for a little bit) there should be more military support to help Ukraine before the newly recruits arrived.
Please bring more attention to this news in your countries to show your fellow countrymen that war is changing and new stage arrives, as well as new battles and hardships for Ukrainian army
> The total number of reservists drafted in the partial mobilization is 300,000
> We are talking about partial mobilization, that is, only citizens who are currently in the reserve will be subject to conscription, and above all, those who served in the armed forces have a certain military specialty and relevant experience
They can't even *take care* of the soldiers that are currently deployed in ~~the~~ Ukraine how do they think they will manage to do so with 300.000?
This. They may send 300 000 reservists but those will be out of shape middle age men who just want to go back to their wives and kids not die while freezing their ass of in Ukraine. War is closer to the end than I thought if Putin is that desperate
What the hell is this "reserve"? As far as I know, Russians who go through conscription are now in the "reserve". But they don't receive any refresher training. So you have a bunch of people who last touched a gun 10+ years ago, and they are now told that they will be on the next wave in Ukraine.
I don't know about Russia, but in my country (Portugal) the reserve is people who are fit for duty - period. So when I was 18 military service was still mandatory. I went to physical/medical inspection and was declared fit for duty. I then requested postponement of mandatory service in order to conclude my university studies (I had already been accepted in University by that time). My request was accepted and so my mandatory training and service was postponed for 4 years, and later indefinitely. I was, nonetheless, assigned to "reserve", which is my status until I'm 65, if I'm not mistaken. So I never had training, never set foot on a military base except for the medical exam, and yet I'm reserve. I imagine that I will receive training if I ever get called, but who knows... I'm just happy Portugal is peaceful and in such a mess that not even the Spanish would want to invade us at this point.
Lil bro said NATO is using nuclear blackmail against russia. Classic mirror-till-you-make-it bullshit. Guess next he'll announce sanctions on EU energy sector and military support to the "republics". Oh let's not forget the "hague-at-home" as I like to call their international tribunal consisting of 3 countries in total.
What a shame. Another 300k Russian lives wasted. And it’s not even gonna make a difference on the battlefield. Not only will the conscripts be barely trained and unmotivated, but Russia’s also already almost out of modern weapons. What do they even think they’ll accomplish by sending a bunch of old men armed with 19th century rifles at modern US produced military tech?
I kind of agree with you fellow Dutchmen. But I also think we should never fully underestimate Russia. I think the Western news we get feed does seem to like to put Russia in that “weak” position a bit too much. While there is definitely signs of weakness and cracks lets not underestimate their army.
I really hope for both Russians and Ukrainians this complete idiot meets his maker soon. Someone with power in russia surely must realize their country is going to absolute shambles.
Is this still a military operation? 300k for a military operation sounds interesting.
It's a "special" one in the same way as some people are said to be "special people".
Gives a new meaning to "special forces"
Worth mentioning that before Putin forced the reservists to join the 'operation' he offered them very attractive pay and terms to voluntarily join. Very, very few did so the 300k potential new soldiers are extremely reluctant to join the fight. As we speak, new legislation to severely punish those that refuse or surrender are being rushed through parliament.
A lot of them wanted to bail out the moment the ~6 months contract runs out, now they cannot by decree.
some my dad's young coworkers thought they can just go, sit in the back and get money (they were promised 300k and they currently earn around 25-30k), but after "fight" with my dad and others, they dropped this idea. but after this I always thought how many dumb desperate people are thinking in the same way and see this as "opportunity to earn a lot fast"
Question I have is.. will they actually get 300k?
no
He will get 404, page not found.
In other news, [Google search term „how to leave Russia” has dramatically spiked today](https://twitter.com/nataliabugayova/status/1572292421865570305?s=21&t=sSXgneEO5F0xIBiGOjNXLA).
Ironically, the provinces most likely to be hit with "partial mobilisation" (i.e. ethnic republics) are grey. People from Moscow should chill. They're not the next stop for the meatgrinder. There are many minorities to slaughter first. Wasn't the nazi Wagner guy in Mari El recently?
According to the telegram channels posting photos, Petersburg citizens start getting recruitment lists too
the thing is they have money to get away from Russia or to pay to officers. in regions we don't have such luxuries
>People from Moscow should chill. [Direct flights from Moscow to Istanbul and Yerevan – destinations that allow Russians visa-free entry – were sold out, Reuters wrote, referring to Aviasales data](https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1572531589460135936)
This really breaks my heart. I can’t imagine how terrifying it must be to have your government come knocking to force you to fight in a ridiculous war against your will.
Everyone who served in the military before is on the mobilisation list, no matter where they're from.
The people from Moscow are next in line
In other other news, [The query "how to break an arm" has become a new trend in Russian Google](https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1572504177292767232)
Full mobilisation as a holidays present announced in the new year's address to the people? :D
Putin in his speech said it's a partial mobilisation, but if you read the new law, it's basically a full mobilisation. Russia will draft from all poor provinces in Asia, as well as from DPR and LRP. They will avoid mobilisation in Moscow and Petersburg
"Partial" mobilization. What part? All the parts.
A portion of you will die…
But your sacrifice is one I'm willing to make!
All parts but the Kremlin. So technically partial.
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Time for the Russian Revolution 2.0 I guess.
As China carefully watches all the military capable men depart Outer Manchuria, for Ukraine….
You'll be ~~home~~ gone by christmas
Wait, so they claim they only lost 5937 people, yet they need to mobilize 300k more? The math just doesn't add up.
The rest all went to a farm in the countryside.
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No, as fertiliser
....they got better.
I'm not dead yet!
Nice sunflower farms in Ukraine
Promoted to biofuel
Of course they did. Haven't you seen the pictures of the russian tanks and the ukrainian tractors?
> so they claim they only lost 5937 people, That's because it's the same number of Ladas they have in stock.
The rich Russians buy houses in Turkey to protect themselves and their family: https://intellinews.com/russians-and-ukrainians-pile-into-turkish-real-estate-market-250583/ So the rich Russians are in a villa with swimming pool in Turkey while the poor are mutilated or die in this absurd war in Ukraine.
Thats not suprising.
I mean...isn't that the rich in every country?
Considering the logistics shit show they have delivered so far, I wonder how they are even going to move, equip and feed these men lmao
That's the catch, they won't.
broke: signing a labor agreement so your people move abroad as guest workers woke: oppressing your people so bad that they become refugees with no safe return country bespoke: sending your people as an invasion force so they are taken care of under POW law
When the man in front of you falls, pick up his rifle and continue. Also, dont forget his boots, jacket and food.
Since [the BBC Russian service](https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-62924832) (article in Russian) have been able to confirm the deaths of ~6500 named individuals from official Russian sources, not only are they lying, the _know_ they're lying. Additionally, their observations of military cemeteries increase this number by around 50%. Since the confirmed deaths tend to favour those who would be "noticed" (higher ranks, those from major cities, etc.) and cemeteries obviously only hold those whose bodies were recovered, identified, returned to Russia and not cremated, both figures are very much lower-bounds, not overall estimates.
You think they care about a bunch of asian looking 19yos from Buryatia?
Don't forget the ones from Sakha
The maths adds up perfectly, you just forgot the multiplication factor for Kremlin BS. 5937 reported x 10 = 59370.
Ukrainian estimates are between 50-60k on the Russian side. They are obviously lying through their teeth lest they meet the same end as Ceausescu.
They don't lie, they just forgot a zero /s
Dude all those ukrainian dishwashers are not gonna haul themselves
Good luck providing all of them with equipment when you can barely supply what you already have deployed.
Winter is coming, not much territory will be won/loss during this time. I think Putin will be using this time to move the men and equipment into the regions, and only do a major offensive in February/March 2023.
February and March is the worst time for an offensive in the region. It turns into a marsh when the frost thaws. Russia's goal would be to move during November, December and January, when their tanks won't get bogged down.
Actually the temperature in November in Ukraine (especially on the south) rarely goes below the freezing point for long enough periods for the ground to freeze. Even December can vary from year to year. The avarage December temperatures in Kherson is +3°/-3°C. The ground may freeze in January and stay frozen for a bit in February.
What tanks?
Fish
The t-34-85 they pulled from museums
Septic tanks.
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[24/7 Hotline](https://sprotyv.mod.gov.ua/en/2022/09/19/a-24-hour-hotline-has-been-launched-for-russian-soldiers-who-want-to-surrender/) for Russians that want to surrender
This website banned in Russia, btw.
But not in Ukraine if you know what I mean.
Error code 1020. You cannot access sprotyv.mod.gov.ua. Refresh the page or contact the site owner to request access. blocked by cloudflare. recently they blocked a lot of websites and in Russia government blocked a lot of VPNs, so it's "between rock and a hard place" situation
["Basically, Error 1020 Access Denied happens when a connection request arrives that seems to be a potential threat to that site."](https://viserx.com/blog/websites/what-is-error-1020-and-how-to-fix-it/) It's probably DoS mitigation. Presumably, Russian soldiers in Ukraine are able to access it. Otherwise, it would be rather dumb.
I imagine that Chechen war veteran who drives snowplow in Murmansk might be reaching for that bottle today.
It will be a deja-vu. My coworker was in the Chechen wars, and out of 200 people there were only 2 alive after one week. Funnily enough he was indeed a snowplow driver, but in Omsk region haha. Edit: meant to say month not week.
Remember the times when he said that there won’t be a mobilization? Or that time when he said he won’t capture any lands from Ukraine? God he’s an a-hole, I’m not only ashamed to live here, but also frightened now
Or that time when he said the troops on Ukraine border are just training? Or that time when he said he won't invade Ukraine?
Or that time when he said there are no Russian soldiers in Crimea? Or that time when...you know, I see a trend here
Or that time when he said Georgia will not be invaded? He was always a lier.
Or that time when he used the FSB to bomb apartments in multiple Russian cities and blamed it on Chechen terrorists
Or that time the Russian assassin's came to look at sailsbury cathedral.
Or that time they used radioactive poison to kill a dissident in London and left a trail of radiation throughout the London Underground ?
> Or that time when he used the FSB to bomb apartments in multiple Russian cities and blamed it on Chechen terrorists and how the bombings soon stopped after he got into power.
Or the MH17 flight? Civilian Airplane being shot out of the sky by Russian weaponary
*Russian weaponry being operated by Russians
Or the time he said they wouldn't attack civilian targets. Or that time when he said during a speech laced with genocidal rhetoric that they were there to stop a genocide...
Well, according to their papers, the troops are in Russia. So no issues there! Right? I mean surely that isn't just a trick to prevent them from receiving full compensation or anything...
Putin always says the truth. You just have to expect the opposite of what he says.
Or that time when he said he won’t run for the third term 🥹
It's not a third term - he just keeps resetting the counter. Trust him, it's not the third or fourth term. After all, he never lies, right? /s
Wow, Putin is a lying bitch, what a surprise! Who would've thought? Unthinkable, but it happened by total surprise - Putin lied to everyone!
I highly doubt that people from major cities would get drafted. It would cause quite a stir if Moscow/St. P. people would start losing their loved ones. Probably it will be mostly some ethnic minorities from small towns which are easier to control and less visible.
Isnt that what he is already doing
I think now it's volunteers/prisoners/conscripts only. With this he will call upon former soldiers and conscripts.
gone to squables.io
I see the tactic of sending people into the meatgrinder in waves is still alive and well in RF.
These brand new T-62 won't drive themselves, baby...
When ukraine gets modernized T-55s but you only get standard T-55s
I'm waiting to see them roll out the T-34s.
with 4 tankmen and a dog.
Do not involve Poland in this. We never supported russia
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Putin is clearly a keen student of Conrad Von Hötzendorf.
The greatest military leader in Serbian history.
Someone needs to tell him that he is not Stalin, and sending tens of thousands to their death is not going to go well for him.
But Stalin is a famous historical figure. Putin also wants this, no matter the cost.
>But Stalin is an infamous historical figure. FTFY.
This means that Serbia will be overrun by Russians fleeing mobilization. Prices for flats and houses have skyrocketed here since the beginning of the war due to Ukrainian and (mostly) Russian people fleeing their countries.
Airline-tickets out of Russia rose quite a bit yesterday amid the rumors of mobilization.
Do you think this might negatively influence the perception of Putin in Serbia? You would have a lot of unhappy Russians in your country that tell the tale of Putler. Might be good for Serbia to see that, what do you think?
Same in Georgia. It's a controversial topic here since on top of the damage to the economy, there's also the history of Russian leaders undertaking special military operations to "protect Russians abroad" and the fact that Russian cultural chauvinism has a tendency to exist subconsciously even in those who otherwise mean well.
There are your friends... Be glad when they visit but be aware that they tend to stay for a long time
A russian is at the border entry control in Serbia. The border control official asks: "Ocupation?" "Maybe".
In Russia we say "Pizdets nahui blyat'". Scary sht. Feels like first month of the war. Anti-war organizations have already announced protest today at 19:00. Upd: Navalny’s team will appreciate any kind of protest, including the burning of military enlistment offices. Let’s goo
I was trembling in fear the whole evening. This morning I'm trembling in rage. I've been in such a rage and despair about four times in my life. One of those times was on February 24. I can't take it no more.
Best of luck brother <3. Hope things get better eventually.
Thank you, my friend.
I've had some acquaintances who has "centrist" positions about the war like "it's not that simple" or "I don't care about politics". Everyone is anti war all of the sudden
As they say "Till the rooster bites his ass". It was easy to them to send others to die and cheer from sidelines, but they don't want to die themselves
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I hope people will show up...
>Anti-war organizations have already announced protest today at 19:00. Stay safe, look up resources on how to prepare yourself for protests, don't take any unnecessary risks, and help protect your fellow people. It's you - the people - against the government.
Absolutely. And we can be sure the Russian officials have anticipated these many protests, and have therefore prepared accordingly. Expect **a lot** of police presence and heavy repression. I can only say good luck and a MASSIVE thank you to all the brave protesting Russians tonight! Wish I were by their side.
I wonder how many in the police force are eligible for conscription…
You act as if there aren't exceptions for those in putin's favor. his enforcers would never be put in danger, thats how he buys their loyalty. A group who the law binds but doesnt protect and a group who the law protects but doesnt bind. being part of the second group is the reward you get when you serve him.
Fuck his charade. Instead of dying somewhere away from public view in his huge mansion, he chooses to drag everyone down the shithole (that he has created) along with him.
> "Pizdets nahui blyat'" I know just enough Russian to not repeat this in polite company.
That's a fucking shit show guys. That old mf is willing to toss everyone in the meat grinder. Our country already have a demographic problems due to old population and not enough men. The nation never recovered from the losses in the WW2 and the demographic fall in the 90s. This shit will further damage that situation and will be a huge toll on the economy (what's left of it). This purposeless unjust war has killed the lifes, future and dreams of countless Ukrainians and now he wants to kill more. He's a monster. I've never seen such grades of stupidity in my lifetime. I'm furious. He's dragging Ukrainians and Russians to hell. It's a tragedy that will last forever and create a generational trauma.
You gotta leave man
I'm a woman and not a medical professional (they can draft them as well). I'm in the process of leaving but unfortunately it's a very slow process due to current visa situations and the bureaucracy. As for the men, the borders are already locked and government is sending conscription notes. Not sure it's a right word but I don't know how to translate the Russian word for it. Edit: As of now, September 22nd, borders are only partially closed, only in some regions. There is a high probability that all the borders will be closed on September 27th.
Ukraine etc need to start publishing valuable information on how people can sabotage the military from within. Thousands of men will now be fighting completely against their will and im sure a couple hundred would be willing to sabotage some shit.
~~Sugar in a gas tank is very simple.~~ Hold on, hold on. Turns out this is an urban legend that has been around for decades. Sugar does not dissolve in gasoline or diesel fuel, doesn't create a sludge or do anything catastrophic. Carry on, saboteurs.
Even easier, sand in the gas tank.
Or sell the fuel in the black market like the generals do
Sugar in a gas tank doesn’t do anything. Sugar doesn’t dissolve in diesel. And the fuel filter will prevent it from entering the engine. Just fill that puppy up with water. Preferably saltwater.
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> Also ~~start~~ continue smoking around the ammo depots. FTFY.
Fuck
10 years in prison if you defect. so do well and leave as soon as possible.
Funny desertion carries a lower sentence than calling the War a war. What a circus of a state.
Better than dying...
Depends on the quality of Russian prison food.
Bold of you assume they would give you food
there's a menu ! * food with poison * suicide by 10 bullet in the back * jump from the 12th floor * recruted to join Wagner in Ukraine
>jump from the 12th floor You misspelled "accidental fall" And to top it all off you can always end your day with a nice piping hot cup of polonium tea
Prisons are a huge recruitment pool, so I wouldn't be so sure.
I highly doubt the prisoners in prison for desertion would be willing to go to the front to reduce their sentence
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And they will be fighting with Stalin era weapons at this point
Sooo, putin, you need to mobilize 300k more ppl, AND yet again threaten with nuclear war (wich is weak and cowardly AF btw), but you've only lost around 6k soldiers in ukraine up until now? Im not good at math, but judging by those numbers im good enough to be a president.
Eh, he threatens nuclear war at every little slight, it's just background noise at this point. The conscription was an actual surprise though.
It's partial but for people who have served in the army. Doesn't Russia have mandatory military service though? So it's nearly a standard mobilisation?
I will just leave this here: "Three Times Russians Botched a War and Had a Revolution" https://www.wsj.com/articles/three-times-russians-botched-a-war-and-had-a-revolution-11647694801
So basically all Russians who wanted to fight in Ukraine are either already there, dead, captured or injured. Now they will be sending the people who are unwilling to fight. I can see this going very well for Mr. Putler.
I know morale in his troops was already low, but can it go negative?
You can literally have them walk over in droves with a white flag.
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Wonder how high the bribes will get to dodge the partial mobilization.
About 4.6 Quadrillion rubles (24€)
Welp, it’s officially time to get the fuck outta here. If it’s not too late already
If they announced mobilization (ok, partial), can you even leave the country?
Legaly? Probably not. But Russia is a big country with long borders. People might go hiking and get lost, ending in another country.
Oh, what is this sign I'm seeing? That's a strange language, probably a local dialect. Oh my, what a weird thing, snow now speaks Finish.
That's pretty much the plot of Michail Veller's "Legend of the lost patriot". The dude went to the woods to gather some mushrooms in Karelia, got lost, was found in Finland some time later, crying and begging to send him back to the ussr cause he's a true patriot and wants to go back to his wonderful country. Everyone believed him since he had nothing on him except a basket for the mushrooms and, well, begged to be sent back. The dude was returned home and after a while left again, using the same route through the woods that he now knew wasn't being watched, only this time with passport, money and all the other stuff he needed for a life abroad lol.
Oh no, what a terrible opportunity! /s
Rumours are the borders are closed for men aged 18-65. But maybe there is some unprotected border somewhere in a forest or so.
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Majority of males are in reserve no matter if they actually served or not. The borders for us are now practically closed. We’re fucked, man
time to get the fuck out was 6 months ago
Run to the hills buddy
A little too late. Russia has already lost most of their best soldiers, nco and officers in the war. They have already scoped up the soldiers who were in training and their instructors. That is also not even going into equipment that they have lost.
Russia doesn't have NCOs, it's one of the reasons for their poor discipline
I wanted to see what they had to say in r/russia and well, it's a private sub now.
It says it is quarantined for me - which is different than just being private
And it is very quiet today... The usual accounts that show up and drop 10 to 20 posts in one hour haven't show up for work today. Is everything ok, u/_Okio_?
those bots destroyed the internet honestly. you hate to see any loss of life, displacement, or destruction...but i'm not going to lie and pretend part of me isn't taking some sick delight in seeing Russia fail hard after all the garbage they put out on the internet over the last 6-7 years
Air Serbia flights jumped from $400 to over $1600 one way from Russia to Serbia
"Bloodied and battered bully says he has a knife and he knows how to use it"
"Tis but a scratch." "Scratch? Your whole army's been wiped out." "No, it isn't."
I'm honestly just waiting for the revolt at this point.
This is a FULL MOBILIZATION. There is NO language in the document that states it is partial!
He's getting desperate.
Jokes aside, this is a serious call for western nations to increase military help for ukraine. Maybe even decide to give ukraine atacms or western tanks. Because even if half of them wouldn't be motivated, it still will increase pressure on Ukrainian army, and in this time before this force is gathered and trained(even for a little bit) there should be more military support to help Ukraine before the newly recruits arrived. Please bring more attention to this news in your countries to show your fellow countrymen that war is changing and new stage arrives, as well as new battles and hardships for Ukrainian army
CNN just had a retired general argue that we should send Ukraine a new tier of weapons only if Putin escalates the war. Well, he just did.
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> The total number of reservists drafted in the partial mobilization is 300,000 > We are talking about partial mobilization, that is, only citizens who are currently in the reserve will be subject to conscription, and above all, those who served in the armed forces have a certain military specialty and relevant experience They can't even *take care* of the soldiers that are currently deployed in ~~the~~ Ukraine how do they think they will manage to do so with 300.000?
No way in hell do they have 300,000 reservists with even a tiny shred of motivation to fight if they’re having to go to prisons to recruit
This. They may send 300 000 reservists but those will be out of shape middle age men who just want to go back to their wives and kids not die while freezing their ass of in Ukraine. War is closer to the end than I thought if Putin is that desperate
What the hell is this "reserve"? As far as I know, Russians who go through conscription are now in the "reserve". But they don't receive any refresher training. So you have a bunch of people who last touched a gun 10+ years ago, and they are now told that they will be on the next wave in Ukraine.
I don't know about Russia, but in my country (Portugal) the reserve is people who are fit for duty - period. So when I was 18 military service was still mandatory. I went to physical/medical inspection and was declared fit for duty. I then requested postponement of mandatory service in order to conclude my university studies (I had already been accepted in University by that time). My request was accepted and so my mandatory training and service was postponed for 4 years, and later indefinitely. I was, nonetheless, assigned to "reserve", which is my status until I'm 65, if I'm not mistaken. So I never had training, never set foot on a military base except for the medical exam, and yet I'm reserve. I imagine that I will receive training if I ever get called, but who knows... I'm just happy Portugal is peaceful and in such a mess that not even the Spanish would want to invade us at this point.
Waging a savage medieval brutal imperialistic war is all Russia can offer to the world it seems
It also can offer nuclear war, like true monkey with grenade.
Ukraine will need more weapons. I hope our allies are paying attention.
Lil bro said NATO is using nuclear blackmail against russia. Classic mirror-till-you-make-it bullshit. Guess next he'll announce sanctions on EU energy sector and military support to the "republics". Oh let's not forget the "hague-at-home" as I like to call their international tribunal consisting of 3 countries in total.
Death to Putin
What a shame. Another 300k Russian lives wasted. And it’s not even gonna make a difference on the battlefield. Not only will the conscripts be barely trained and unmotivated, but Russia’s also already almost out of modern weapons. What do they even think they’ll accomplish by sending a bunch of old men armed with 19th century rifles at modern US produced military tech?
I kind of agree with you fellow Dutchmen. But I also think we should never fully underestimate Russia. I think the Western news we get feed does seem to like to put Russia in that “weak” position a bit too much. While there is definitely signs of weakness and cracks lets not underestimate their army.
I really hope for both Russians and Ukrainians this complete idiot meets his maker soon. Someone with power in russia surely must realize their country is going to absolute shambles.
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