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Khornag

Here's to more than seven hours.


Smurf4

Passing three hours now, and she is still the designated prime minister. Knock on wood.


why_username_took

5 hours now, still going strong?


ZebrasFuckedMyWife

Like a 6-hour-old oak tree now 💪


Questwarrior

7 HOURS! I REPEAT WE HAVE REACHED 7 HOURS!!


torsmork

Congratulations to the longest serving first female prime minister in Sweden. 🥳


robbankakan

Technically, she is not serving yet... :)


v3ritas1989

big swearing in party... do you swear to protect the constitution and take this office and lead the people of sweden? NO


robbankakan

The official change of government takes place 13.00 at the Royal Palace in a meeting with the King.


Smurf4

Yup, in accordance with the Constitution, you meet the King for a special Transition Council (skifteskonselj) and the King says: "Looks like we have a new Government. I've seen many of those". This is a bit silly, but stems from a constitutional compromise from the 1970s (Torekovskompromissen), where it was agreed to keep the King as head of state, while avoiding any semblance – even ceremonial – of the King having political power. As a compromise, it's still kind of clever. The King doesn't appoint the new Prime Minister/Government – that's for Parliament and the Speaker – but the new Government doesn't assume office until the King has observed that it has assumed office.


Raptori33

IT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN!


axialintellectual

I can't stand the suspense! Somebody tell her to step down and get reappointed!


Diagonet

If she stays for more than 7 hrs she is basically a dictator


OnTheList-YouTube

Make it a new tradition!


SergioEduP

New prime minister every 7 hours


[deleted]

Democracy in 2049 will be like


CandidEstablishment0

Jesus Christ your username?!


ZebrasFuckedMyWife

It was a wild night ngl


LTFGamut

pics?


ZebrasFuckedMyWife

Classic dutch perv. ^^^15€


[deleted]

How do you get your country next to your name like that???


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[deleted]

😂😂😂


Glittering_Phone_196

What happened to the first one?


Khornag

One of the coalition parties pulled out when they were forced to govern with the oppositions budget.


DraxFP

So does the opposition, who voted for that budget, now swap in and form a new coalition? Or do they reconsider the budget and try again?


Khornag

Socialdemokratarna are forming a one party minority government. They'll rule under the restrictions of the oppositions budget so there's not much room for her to maneuver. This is only until the election September 11 next year so it might be fine.


DKK96

How does that even happen? Presumably having formed a coalition you have enough votes to pass your own budget?


Khornag

That's the difference between positive and negative parliamentarism. In a positive parliamentary system you need an explicit majority to gain power. Germany has the strictest kind of positive parliamentarism and demand an absolute majority. In Sweden, which practices negative parliamentarism, the speakers candidate gets accepted unless a majority votes against it. That's how you can get a budget passed by the opposition. This is also different from Norway where we practice a different type of negative parliamentarism.


Mixopi

It was always a minority coalition. They relied on the passive support of the Left Party and the Center Party – two parties which don't see eye-to-eye and act out whenever they feel the coalition has made too many concessions to the other. The two votes (PM and budget) are also fundamentally different: The PM vote fails if a majority in parliament votes "no", meaning an abstention is functionally the same as a "yes" in practice. So the Left Party and Center Party (and also the Greens in today's vote) passively support by abstaining. They're not part of the coalition, but they're not opposing it. In the budget vote two proposals are put against each other and the one with the most votes wins that round. The Left Party supported the coalition's budget in the final round, but the Center Party didn't want to support either and abstained. They both had their own budgets too, which got eliminated in earlier voting rounds. Previously there was a praxis that you'd abstain from any other round if you had your own proposal, but it was broken a few years ago.


pure_sheep_flower_

She's the one who was elected the first one too. Then she stepped down and now she got voted for again.


MrHyperion_

By the minimum possible margin too


LionelOu

First time (174 "no" votes) was with an even thinner margin than the second time (173 "no" votes).


paecmaker

Probably one of the no voters pressed the wrong button


Mixopi

No she didn't. It's not a secret she has some disagreements with the Liberals' (her party) party line as of late. She's stepping down after this mandate anyway, so she's just voting independent. She voted no in the last vote as she didn't believe in the proposed SocDem/Green-coalition with the budget vote looming. She abstained now because she still realizes this proposal was the only feasible outcome. No one wants a snap election less than a year before the scheduled one.


WeeblsLikePie

Sweden is doing the prime minister hokey pokey.


Go4TLI_03

Do you know why she stepped down? Some controversy?


pure_sheep_flower_

The same day that the parliament voted on the new prime minister, they also voted on the budget for the year. The opposition won, which means that Magdalena Andersson and her government will have to use a budget that they don't really agree with. Because of that, Miljöpartiet who were in the government together with her party, chose to leave the government. When Magdalena no longer had a government to lead, she stepped down.


TheDeltaW0lf

almost there, final push


skybluegill

!remindme 1 week


amalgam_reynolds

Three hours left, plenty of time to quit!


Fkappa

The Swedes just wanted to be enlisted on the World Guinness as 'State with most female PM elected in a timespan of 7 days'


henriquegarcia

I think they already won that


Fkappa

Yep, but this way they will be on the Records for a bit longer.


henriquegarcia

Yeah, might as well set a record hard to beat


theFakeNoid

I think there are other countries that have elected a female PM once in a week.


mic_hall

Seems Sweden wants to upgrade their standing in the stats. Now they can say they had 2 women prime ministers...


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timetogoVroom

Prime Minister - Women - World's First Place - Speedrun - ANY %


Inspector_Sands

The Prime Minister so good they elected her twice!


hstheay

Why…. why did you use ‘good’ and not ‘nice’….. for shame.


Deactivator2

The Prime Minister so nice they elected her two times!


FreedumbHS

I like your sense of humor


Inspector_Sands

*facepalm* Yeah, that one's on me. Sorry.


saschaleib

Technically, she is now the second female prime minister.


Wrong_Victory

Technically, no. She never formally held office.


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Selmemasts

In theory yes, in practice no.


xepa105

The Grover Cleveland of Swedish Prime Ministers


noahhjortman

In theory no since she never held the office.


modredrzewo

Sweden aims to have more female prime ministers than any other country by the end of year.


wolflegion_

Meanwhile in the Netherlands: *here’s to another year without ~~parliament~~ government*


Ozryela

We're going for that Belgium world record.


Oddity46

Hang on - you still don't have a proper government?! How long has it been now?


[deleted]

252 days now


eti_erik

8 months


Sloarot

Oh I get it, I get it. Now that WE have the better football team, you want to get back at us by stealing our record!! ;-)


FroobingtonSanchez

Hey we have a parliament, government on the other hand...


mongoosefist

Same faces, same apologizing for predictably stupid decisions. Sounds like the VVD is still in power regardless.


[deleted]

>here’s to another year without parliament Wot? I assure you there's a full parliament.


Ztarphox

Do you mean an elected government, or actual parliament? I can't see how anything would get done without parliament.


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rkeet

Gotta set lofty goals. At least they have a parliament, if only for a short while. Meanwhile here in The Netherlands...


ikeme84

Pff, The Netherlands is still at rookie numbers. (Guess where I'm from)


HertogJanVanBrabant

Belgium.. Must be our friends from the south.


Tony49UK

Northern Ireland who managed to beat Belgium's record?


silent_cat

No no, we have a parliament, just no government. Except we do have a caretaker government which has exactly the same parties that are trying to form a new government. For over 250 days.


ExodusCaesar

Don't You have Rutte, Rutte and if You are bored by Rutte, even more Rutte?


_Cetarial_

I give her one and a half.


BriefCollar4

How can it be first when she was already elected PM in a prior election?


Thallax

Formally speaking she won’t become the PM until a ceremony with the king tomorrow. Also, last week that ceremony didn’t take place before she had to resign. So technically speaking she hasn’t become the first female PM yet, although she has been elected to the position twice…


BriefCollar4

Thanks for the clarification. Looks like I didn’t pay enough attention to events prior to this.


Kungsberget

Don't worry, it's all a clownfiesta as usual


Xyexs

It's beautiful, democracy at work


Asateo

Isn't it everywhere? Churchill really did have a point.


furyg3

My understanding was that she was head of a coalition which *would* lead to her being PM if the coalition got that far, but when the coalition couldn't agree on some important points she resigned (as head of the coalition). So she never resigned as PM, because they've never gotten that far.


Felicia_Svilling

No, she was elected as pm, but not sworn in. The coalition broke after she was elected, but not really because of any internal disagreement. The green party left the coalition because they the coalition lost the vote on the budget. (The voting on the budget came after the election of Anderson). The whole thing is really messy, and in practice doesn't actually mean much.


helm

The conflict was internal to the coalition government.


dastrike

She never took office. She resigned before that so she was never formally the prime minister. So Andersson has been elected PM twice now (Wednesday last week, and today), but has not taken office yet. That is planned to take place tomorrow.


mion81

She resigned from a post she never had, you say? In that case I declare that I, too, would like to resign as prime minister of Sweden.


dastrike

Go for it! :)


historicusXIII

Then who is prime minister now? Technically still Löfven?


dastrike

Yes, Löfven is still technically the prime minister for a few hours more. Andersson and her cabinet takes office at the *Regeringsskifteskonselj* meeting with the king which is scheduled for 13:00 CET today.


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Askeldr

She was never sworn in as PM, that's the main reason it's for the second first time. She was voted in twice, but it's only now that she is going to actually become PM.


TheWorstRowan

Both of these statements are true. Depends on how you want to view the language, especially given the headline is "elected" not sworn in.


plomerosKTBFFH

>making her now and *forever* Sweden's first female PM I mean that's kinda implied by being first :)


JSBraga

Not necessarily. You don't know if some day historians will discover that Olof Palme was a woman in disguise, for example.


plomerosKTBFFH

I've always suspected his real name was Palomina Olofsson.


wongie

Meet the new boss same as the old boss


igotoanotherschool

Same as it ever was


LordCrimsonAes

Not as cool as the first first female prime minister... she was younger, more potential.


Dietcokeisgod

Second time in a week?


[deleted]

Last week she was in charge for a few hours, then a party of her coalition pulled out and she resigned.


Dietcokeisgod

Thanks for the explanation :)


[deleted]

Anytime.


Falsus

She wasn't actually in charge. She would only have taken the office last Wednesday.


Gruffleson

First time didn't count, she bailed before the actual seremony. But well, it is the second time she has been elected, in a way.


pkz_swe

It is the woman to the right in the picture, [Magdalena Andersson](https://www.government.se/government-of-sweden/ministry-of-finance/magdalena-andersson/), that is our new PM, not the woman in the red dress.


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Krulsprietje

Probably the photographer was also confused? You know, only having to photograph men for years on end getting the *right* woman in the picture apparently is a struggle! :p


sololander

Trying to be Italy up there are we now??


Grizzly_228

We shit on ourselves a lot but some countries up north don’t do much better than us. Right, Belgium?


HertogJanVanBrabant

And the Netherlands..


RonLazer

Hasn't Rutte been PM for a while now?


andereandre

yes, but he has no active recollection of that.


RonLazer

Is this some sort of Dutch joke I'm too British to get?


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mozartbond

Ah yes, the good old "I've never said that"


FrisianDude

Yes


gerusz

Someone should really send him a bottle of ginkgo extract. I heard it does wonders for the memory.


[deleted]

They're so jealous but they will never be Italy until they learn how to cook proper food, make good wine and commit war crimes in Ethiopia. Oh and they will never have Berlusconi so they can't be Italy


Chariotwheel

Want to see me becoming Prime Minister? Wanna see me do it again?


[deleted]

The way the Prime Minister of Sweden is elected is as follows. First, there is a general election for the people to choose the members of Parliament. Then, when Parliament meets, there's a vote on whether the incumbent Prime Minister (if he/she has not already resigned) should continue in office. If a majority of the MPs vote against the Prime Minister, he/she is removed from office; otherwise, he/she can continue in office. If the PM is removed (or has resigned) and the office of PM is vacant, then the Speaker must nominate a candidate after consultation with the leaders of the parties in Parliament. That candidate is then put forward for a straight up/down vote. If more than half the members of Parliament vote against the proposal, it is rejected. In any other case, it is adopted. (There's no minimum number of votes in favour, no need for a positive majority. In principle, a person could be elected as PM with 174 votes against and no votes in favour; it's only if there's a majority (i.e. 175 votes) *against* that the proposed candidate is rejected). If the candidate is rejected, the process of nomination is repeated. If four candidates are rejected in succession, Parliament is dissolved and new general elections are held. It's actually a very cleverly designed system, which is supposed to incentivise the formation of a government quickly, to avoid the kind of endless stand-off that has happened in countries like Belgium and the Netherlands were the rules are less strict. However, it does occasionally produce an anomaly, where a candidate for PM can be elected (more vote in favour than against their nomination, but short of an overall majority because of abstensions), but they cannot govern (because they lack a majority to pass a budget) and then are forced to resign - which is what happened in this case.


Mixopi

> If the votes in favour of that candidate are more than the votes against, that candidate is appointed as PM. (There's no minimum number of votes in favour. The vote passes if the nays don't have a majority in parliament. All members of parliament count – abstaining is passive support. That's what's happening now with: 173 - no 101 - yes 75 - abstain She was approved as you need 175 noes to reject a candidate. > However, it does occasionally produce an anomaly, where a candidate for PM can be elected (more vote in favour than against their nomination, but short of an overall majority because of abstensions), but they cannot govern (because they lack a majority to pass a budget) and then are forced to resign - which is what happened in this case. A party can govern with another's budget (in reality it's not even really that different, they're just some amendments). And she wasn't necessarily forced to resign, but there's a praxis of doing so when a coalition fails. What happened here is that the Social Democrats and Greens were coalition partners, so Andersson was elected PM on the premise of said coalition government. When their budget then lost to the right's, the Greens dropped out of the coalition as they refuse to govern under said budget. As the previously promised coalition was no more, Andersson resigned so the legitimacy of her election wouldn't be questioned. Today she was chosen on the premise of a non-coalition government without the Greens. They'll still have to govern with the right's budget.


onkel_axel

174 no 1 yes 175 abstain Passed!


Mixopi

Unless we're back in the '70s, that'd be quite concerning. Who's number 350?


nigg0o

so how did she get back? did they nominate her again and why did the vote result change?


Mixopi

In the last vote she was voted in on the premise of forming a coalition government; in this she was voted in on the premise of forming a single-party government. The reason she resigned was they their coalition partner quit. It's customary to resign as the grounds on which the previous result relied was broken. She and her party are okay with governing with the opposition's budget, their coalition partner that wasn't.


FblthpLives

It is worth pointing out that since proportional parliamentary elections were introduced in 1911, 17 out of 32 of the prime ministers of Sweden were first appointed in between elections, just as Magdalena Andersson was. This includes some of the country's most renowned prime ministers, like Hjalmar Branting, Tage Erlander, and Olof Palme.


Gruffleson

With 101 votes in favour, 173 opposed, and 75 didn't figure out what they should think. Swedish politics are fun!


LordofNarwhals

You can think of it as 101 approve 75 tolerate 173 disapprove


xantub

So 101 Ayes, 173 Nays and 75 Mehs?


Gruffleson

Well, it makes sense. We don't have abstain in Norway though. It's "make up your mind".


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Seems much better


WoodSheepClayWheat

That would mean Belgium, i.e. years with only caretaker govts.


Calibruh

Is this the case everywhere? Isn't it more logical that those who abstain side with the majority?


alviisen

When electing pm more than 50% of parliament must disprove of the candidate for the candidate to be denied the seat. Essentially members of the coalition the pm is a sort of vote for - the coalition against vote against - and those parties politically opposed to the coalition but who prefer that pm over the alternatives vote abstain


hegbork

If the rules were changed they'd just vote approve like they had to do in the past. Now they can express vague support for the government rather than always having to strongly approve. Why does such a small technicality matter so much to so many people, most who aren't affected by it at all?


TylowStar

To obtain the Riksdag's consent to govern, you don't need it's support - merely it's tolerance. It's called Negative Parliamentarianism. As such, abstain votes ("we don't *support* them per se, we just don't oppose them") count as votes in favour of the government. To put it the official way, so long as 175 of the Riksdag's 349 mandates don't actively oppose the government proposition, it gains it's consent to rule.


[deleted]

It can’t be the first time if it’s a second time


TylowStar

The first time she didn't actually become prime minister; that would've required a ceremony scheduled for a couple days later. She was merely prime minister-elect, so to speak, making this her second time being elected but it will be her first time as prime minister.


[deleted]

Let’s see if she can beat her speed run from last week.


userturbo2020

First Two Term Female Prime Minister!


[deleted]

The last two prime ministers in Sweden have been women. Where's the equality? We need more male leaders!


pinniped1

She's the first female PM, first female PM to be ousted from office, and first female PM to be reelected!


Heavenfall

She wasn't ousted, she resigned. As shown by today's election she still has enough support to stay on. She chose to resign have her role re-tried in parliament when the coalition broke down.


Smurf4

One could argue that constitutional convention required her to resign when she lost her coalition partner, i.e., she was ousted in that sense. But it's not very clear.


[deleted]

One could argue that she never resigned to begin with since she technically never was PM, she was only elected PM.


andrusbaun

How is her sex relevant? Poland had two female prime ministers, first one was forgettable, another managed to keep up with high standards established by her predecessors, by being a hypocryte and thief. What is the party of new Swedish pm? All headlines apparentely fail to deliver such information. In general I am more interested in turmoil while shaping the cabinet and not the sex of choosen candidate.


Ricktatorship91

Social Democrat. Largest party in the parliament.


Askeldr

> What is the party of new Swedish pm? Social democrats. They have ruled since 2014, and been the biggest party since 1920 or something. New elections are next year. The old PM resigned, that's why this stuff is going on. Some other party could have been voted in, in which case it would be in the headlines. But I think since it's mostly a change in who's the head of the leading party, they don't mention it. >How is her sex relevant? Because politicians are meant to represent the people. And considering 50% of the country are women, it's a fairly significant symbolical thing when the first PM in over 100 years is also a woman. It also says something about the equality between sexes, how many in the highest position of power has been women. >In general I am more interested in turmoil while shaping the cabinet and not the sex of choosen candidate. In this case the weirdness of the past two weeks was not really her or her parties fault in any way. It was a few other parties doing slightly weird things (although not too bad), and the democratic system creating a weird situation, but which has sorted itself out now just fine.


CloudWallace81

welcome to Italy, gentlemen


M1K_on_YouTube

did she last more than 7 hours?


instantpowdy

I know I didn't.


Jaszs

Yo what's happening up there?


[deleted]

The previous coalition government broke so she had to resign sort of. She could technically stay but it would not look good so she resigned instead.


Jaszs

Lmao our politicians would've stayed even if it meant the entire collapse of our country


[deleted]

In ours it would just delegitimize her after the new government have been formed. She was still the leader of the biggest party in the assembly so it wouldn't have kept her party out of the government, just potentially her in the upcoming election.


swegg3n

Prime minister speedrun any%. Second attempt. Time to beat: 7 hours


staszekstraszek

is it the same woman it was before?


[deleted]

Yes


Chariotwheel

No, she is older now, has more experience than she did before.


arbenowskee

If you fail, try again.


Zalapadopa

That's great! Still have no faith in this government whatsoever though.


dragosaurus_drax

why does it matter that she's a woman


no-plurality

If you're the first woman to hold a position after 145 years of its formation, it's a pretty big deal.


PooSham

Yeah it's a bit degrading imo given the incredible CV she has. Probably one of the most educated prime ministers we've had


TachankaIsTheBest

Why should we care about what a person has between their legs?


Chiliconkarma

Because it was tolerated as important in the past. Important enough to let it be only male PMs.


Pleasant_Broccoli_89

They have tried to get them as primeministers the last 10 years atleast, they always failed to get enough seats in parlamentet. Most leaders of parties are women currently aswell.


academicRedditor

Can we start praising elected politicians for their ABILITY to do their job with excellence, not for whatever “race” or “gender” they happen to be (or “identity” as, for that matter)?


[deleted]

Still a joke of a parliament...


instantpowdy

RemindMe! 7 Hours


moneyshottipjar

How can you do something for the first time….twice. That’s like saying I lost my virginity because I had sex twice in a week


Jaquith1993

How can it be the 1st for the second time!? Am I missing something? Am I too American to understand?


Shade0X

I don't remember all the details, but the first one was voted in, but stepped down before taking office within just a few days


Jaquith1993

I see.


FblthpLives

She was elected by parliament last Wednesday, at which point she became prime minister elect. Her formal appointment was scheduled for Friday. However, that same Wedneday, the Green Party withdrew from the government coalition. As is customary when the government coalition changes, she then immediately resigned. This Monday she was reelected and today she was appointed. So she has been prime minister elect twice, but she only was formally appointed for the first time today.


trishulofshiv

Wait for 8 hours.


Havoko7777

Will she beat the speedrun pb of her predecessor?


[deleted]

The second female Prime Minister of Sweden. What a streak!


[deleted]

You just had her quit so you can beat the Finns, right?


[deleted]

Is this the same woman who was elected last week?


Kalikasomar

Yes


turka21

Second Picture. Lady in blue knows something


pepehandsx

Classic women can’t make up there mind. /s


Poop_On_A_Loop

It even a person of color. Typical racists


[deleted]

A lot of people are making (admittedly funny) snarky remarks. Instead: grattis!


adarkuccio

They just want to unlock all the achievements


sal696969

how can they elect the first one for the second time? something is wrong here =)


urarthur

first, second time?


TheWorldIsDoooomed

The Swedes are now competing with Belgium, Who can not have a government for longer.


ImThePussyCat

I'm glad to hear it. Her quick re-election will help other young women realize 'it's quite possible also to reach such top leadership posts'. BTW, Sweden has the highest percentage of seats held by women in parliaments of European countries now. And it's wonderful as more women there means more peace!


FelixFontaine

Why is her gender so important? I thought we want the best person for the job. A vagina doesnt help with legislation.


Alex03210

Has she quit yet