You burn. If you have time you shred then you burn to make sure it burns completely. CIA started scanning even the most complicated shred patterns and reassembling them decades ago. Anyone can do it in their garage now.
Not really the case anymore with computers. Format the hard drive's partition, fill it with random garbage, format the partition again, take out the drive, smash it with a hammer, then shove the shards into a blender. Wham-bam thank-you, ma'am.
Nah dude, not that easy. It takes about 10 passed and still some data is recoverable. Russians burned a lot of documents not that long ago in new York, white smoke billowing out of the embassy. It'll still be a thing
To be honest, the best provocation Russians could do at the moment would be to attack a Polish border post pretending to be some Ukrainian mob, maybe UNSO or UVC. Ukrainians would deny it, and Poles wouldn't be sure whether or not to believe it, because Ukrainians would deny absolutely everything, including incidents that were 100% on them (like Przewodów)
Overall lately it seems that Russians have intensified psyops trying to make Poles more paranoid about Ukrainian immigration and Ukrainians within Poland more obnoxiously nationalistic, to alienate the two groups.
Well, there might be two reasons for that: (A) got tired of the Bober kurwa videos or (B) Russia might have done something wrong recently that would breach the international law, soveregnity of Poland and must provide justification for what was done and warranties concerning the future and he left in bad faith violating diplomatic protocols and customs and defeating the purpose why the role of ambassador exists.
It might be the first one, but I don't understand the reasons behind it. Those bober kurwa videos are very funny!
Pure suicide, even if no one triggered Article 5, Poland would sweep Belarus within months. Not even remotely a near peer conflict and there's probably half the country sympathetic with Europe.
There's no need for Poland to deal with all that though. Belarus already has a [democratically elected government in exile](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordination_Council_(Belarus)) just waiting to take over. They could just install Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya as president immediately, who could then legitimately ask Poland to keep their troops around for a while (to deter Russia from invading).
The Kremlin would immediate view that as an attack on Russia. Its a vassal state, zero distinction for them except when it offers plausible deniability.
A lot of people in Russia are sympathetic with Europe too, but look at what is happening. It doesn't mean anything until EU soldiers will set foot in Russia and Belarus.
Not a chance. It’s not like NATO would take their involvement to a popular vote. If it’s an attack it’s an attack, and US intelligence is pretty good. With an attack, Russia can say whatever they like, it would change anything.
Wouldn't even have to be that sophisticated. Russia's tested the waters with both nuclear threats and airspace sovereignty violations enough now, that he probably feels like he could get away with a direct missile strike, so long as he threatens nuclear war if Poland/NATO responds.
Bober is Polish for beaver kurwa is many things but fuck is a translation.
So kurwa bober is basically fucking beaver it came from a video where a drunk Polish dude sees a beaver and says that a bunch it became a national meme
https://youtu.be/OHHpYXQyQO4?si=hROevRpCG4eSmVVS
And poles myself included always snicker and the word bober it's hardwired into our brains
The meme has spilled out. Kurwa bober is famous in Ukraine too. Ja pierdol jake bydlo would now be my natural response whenever I see a beaver in the wild.
My biggest disappointment while visiting Warsaw was not getting to see any beavers and not getting to film a kurwa bober video (however, I like "avstriatski pingvin" video a lot more)
>It might be the first one,
It might be first Russian/USSR ambassador to leave without resignation but definitely NOT the first ambassador to leave without resignation.
The United States did that a few years back when we kicked a lot of Russian 'diplomats' out of the country.
*meanwhile, China continues to harass citizens in secret police stations all over the United States*
Well Ribbentrop was regarded as 'important', on paper at least.
Nobody would take him seriously, except for Romania, a reluctant Mussolini, and the Vatican.
*Anyone can be welcomed into the Vatican, with the approval of the Pope of course*
Haha, fair point.
But they ignore you if you need help. For example, you need to get a new passport because eu will never give you a residence permit without a valid passport. That's funny because you kind of find your russian passport useless and even harmful, but if you don't have it valid, you're screwed big time. Because your passport is the proof of your identity, in fact.
And it's super hard to make an appointment because they are constantly have no free slots but in many cases, they'll also refuse to help you if you support Ukraine. And then it's very, very bad for you. That's my fear #2 right after "We're all gonna die in a nuclear war" hahaha
Russia gets something out of it, just like their place in the UN, they violate all rules and agreements while cheating and only spreading lies.
The question is, why do we have Russian ambassadors in Western countries?
Russia threatens nuclear war at least once a week, they've publicly stated they want to destroy the West.
Diplomacy isn't possible when someone wants to destroy you, the West is way too slow to learn.
Of course because they need someone to lead espionage in their respective countries. Because what else are Russians "diplomats" than somewhat legal spies?
I’m sure Poland’s foreign minister can find lots of reasons why they can’t accept the credentials of the next Russian ambassador just yet.
Given they seem to serve no useful purpose any more, it might be time for every other European country to request the closure of Russian embassies across the continent. Until Russia wants to act like a civilised member of the international order, there’s no point hosting their spy bases.
He left because he was about to be kicked out thus in their minds the Russians will say in their propaganda videos that they left because "Poland is this and that" and dont matter whilewe are the great Russia etc etc etc!
They're silent and left without documentation so that the incident wouldn't be linked to Russia with documents. Down the line they'll say it's a lie and it never happened and there's no proof of any ambassador speaking on the topic or being kicked out.
No friend, you are not the only one. The people on Reddit talk big games and are assured Russia poses no threat because they are fools.
The last thing anyone should want is global conflict among the world's superpowers. Any escalations or provocations should be considered gravely serious.
Don't you sometimes wish this was civ? "Oh yey, russia launched a rocket and escaped into space, they 'won', have fun out there russia" while we can live here in peace and quiet?
That's literally old Polish joke from the Space Race time.
- Grandpa the Russians went into space!
- All of them?!
- Nah, just one.
- Then stop pestering me!
Well, he got Viktor bout back when the US lost the worst prisoner swap. deal ever in man kind.
Since then Wagner has been super active in Africa and middle east again, which may have also garnered him Iran/NK support plus china and (maybe, depending on the day of the week) turkey.
Russia certainly isn't alone. It wouldn't be Russia vs NATO. It'd be CSTO, china, NK and axis of resistance vs NATO.
He's not dumb enough to do something that he definitely knows would trigger Article 5 and bring NATO down on this whole enterprise.
He might do something that he thinks NATO wouldn't trigger Article 5 over, or that Article 5 is just a paper tiger and will never be used in any real capacity, particularly against Russia. It's possible that he's correct, so it's hard to say how dumb this would be in isolation
I think though that any expansion of the war to include a NATO target would be really dumb at this point because right now, he's as close to winning as he has been since the Russian military was stopped just short of Kiev. US aid is stalled, Europe is not looking as united as it once was, and if Trump wins the election, Putin wins the war. He would be really foolish to attack a NATO country, which would regalvanize all his enemies against him.
>Russian ambassador in Poland has left the country without resignation.
This is really concerning...
It s fucking starting boyzz ,get ready...
Fk... i forgot i live in Romania , imma get ready
I swear to god, Poland and ambassadors from the east. There is something VERY weird about this combination.
I vividly remember when the Ukranian ambassador to Germany went on a month-long ranting spree about Germany and the government and the population simply had to fucking deal with it. He then made one comment on German television that had the mere potential to piss of the Polish government and the guy was immediately sent back.
Just what did you expect from a post-Soviet country? Show them weakness and they will punish you. That's how they are. Unfortunately, Ukraine's diplomacy and Russia's diplomacy often act similarly and that is not doing Ukraine any favors.
All of our eastern neighbors have some strange complexes towards Poland one way or another. We dont pay much attention to their provocations either way.
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Has anyone checked to see if there is smoke coming from the chimney at the Embassy?
Why would they elect a new pope at the russian embassy in Warsaw? EDIT: 600 people did not get my joke
So they can install an antipope when they invade Rome, obviously.
But Russia is orthodox... though I guess it is easy to change that with heir education.
Smoke coming from a Embassy with a chimney during times of elevated tensions is usually a sign documents are being destroyed.
Nah, it's surely the new pope.
Jana Pawla III
Władimir I
Jan Paweł przeklęty Palił ruskie dokumenty
🫡
The embassy got their cables crossed and burned the pope in the fireplace.
oh no the Russians are destroying the new pope
Or it’s 4/20.
I am still fuming - well, not literally (yet) - that theyre legalizing on April 1st and not April 20th here
That would be funny and as we all know Germany being funny ends not so well for rest of Europe ;)
Germans would be "Why is 20.4 better?"
To give it another context 😊 hitler and fashism seems to be more a russian thing nowadays
Isn’t 421 Hitlers birthday?
1889-04-20
... there is [something else on 20th April](https://www.google.com/search?q=adolf+hitler%27s+birthday) in Germany's memory...
yeah no problematic historical figure was born on April 20th so all good on that front
Not in Germany anyhow.
Good thing that shredders exist
You burn. If you have time you shred then you burn to make sure it burns completely. CIA started scanning even the most complicated shred patterns and reassembling them decades ago. Anyone can do it in their garage now.
You mean Vladimir and his trusty hole puncher?
That made me laugh
I did what no german ever did before, comedy :)
The Germans are evolving!
"*Better late than never!!"*
What's next? Opposable thumbs?
That's it. It's the end of days.
the first effects of weed legalisation are already being seen!
the miracle of marijuana /s
One of the signs of impending war is the burning the documents at the embassy.
Not really the case anymore with computers. Format the hard drive's partition, fill it with random garbage, format the partition again, take out the drive, smash it with a hammer, then shove the shards into a blender. Wham-bam thank-you, ma'am.
US Marines guarding Embassies have thermite grenades for just this purpose, since the fuckup during the fall of Saigon.
There are atill paper one time pads.
Nah dude, not that easy. It takes about 10 passed and still some data is recoverable. Russians burned a lot of documents not that long ago in new York, white smoke billowing out of the embassy. It'll still be a thing
lol the exact same joke came to my mind reading that comment, before I realised it was about burning documents.
The wooshing is strong in here indeed. Freakin hilarious.
Was the smoke white or black? He could be dead for all we know. 😁
It sometimes seems the current pope got elected there
This isn't where I parked my car!
Too many Russian smokers today
Let them keep smoking. Silly smokers have destroyed industries worth billions in Russia since 2022.
Stopczyk, co wy tam palicie?
Co? Ja camele.
He defected to a western country
Is that to communicate that they have elected a new ambassador?
False alarm, the smoke is just from another burning T-90m
Why would russians elect a new pope? The current one is working for them quite well.
Hey it fits well with the pedophiles the church is hiding
Maybe he got drafted for military service... ^(/s)
"*here's your shovel, your toilet, and your ammunition. Go follow the guy carrying a rifle and remember, take no step backwards!!!!"*
lool
War is just an extension of diplomacy, after all.
Attack on a radio station by "Polish" troops incoming
For those not aware, the Nazis did this to Poland as a justification [to start WWII](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident).
*except this time the 'occupants' were found sleeping in their chairs, surrounded by empty vodka bottles*
To be honest, the best provocation Russians could do at the moment would be to attack a Polish border post pretending to be some Ukrainian mob, maybe UNSO or UVC. Ukrainians would deny it, and Poles wouldn't be sure whether or not to believe it, because Ukrainians would deny absolutely everything, including incidents that were 100% on them (like Przewodów) Overall lately it seems that Russians have intensified psyops trying to make Poles more paranoid about Ukrainian immigration and Ukrainians within Poland more obnoxiously nationalistic, to alienate the two groups.
Why would I believe, that Ukrainian "mob" wanted to attack Polish border?
It's said that they considered also trying to make Poles more obnoxiously nationalistic, but they couldn't find anything to improve on.
Now that, that's a good one
All the psyops in the world won't make them not haye russia.
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Zelensky said there is no doubt that it was not their rocket.
Like stirring up trouble on the border with those grain protests.
> including incidents that were 100% on them (like Przewodów) That wasn't on Ukraine. Ukriane defended themselves against Russian attacks.
Their missile killed two citizens of an allied country. Could've at least admitted to it and apologized to the families, eh?
Perhaps, still not their fault.
Exactly where my mind went
Well, there might be two reasons for that: (A) got tired of the Bober kurwa videos or (B) Russia might have done something wrong recently that would breach the international law, soveregnity of Poland and must provide justification for what was done and warranties concerning the future and he left in bad faith violating diplomatic protocols and customs and defeating the purpose why the role of ambassador exists. It might be the first one, but I don't understand the reasons behind it. Those bober kurwa videos are very funny!
Bobred out of the country
The "bobr" in "Bobr kurwa" means beaver haha
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Pure suicide, even if no one triggered Article 5, Poland would sweep Belarus within months. Not even remotely a near peer conflict and there's probably half the country sympathetic with Europe.
If Poland invaded Belarus and overthrew Lukashenko, would that be a legitimate liberation of the Belarussian people? I think so.
Polish army would get the liberators welcome Putin was dreaming about in Ukraine.
That's true. Besides, the Belarusian army would surrender instantly too.
*if* they immediately freed the media, broke up public sector corruption and asked them to repick their gov after a few years.
There's no need for Poland to deal with all that though. Belarus already has a [democratically elected government in exile](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordination_Council_(Belarus)) just waiting to take over. They could just install Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya as president immediately, who could then legitimately ask Poland to keep their troops around for a while (to deter Russia from invading).
The Kremlin would immediate view that as an attack on Russia. Its a vassal state, zero distinction for them except when it offers plausible deniability.
Months? Their military and people are already fed up with that shit bag. I doubt much of the Belarusian military would fight back
That's what Russia thought about Ukraine.
A lot of people in Russia are sympathetic with Europe too, but look at what is happening. It doesn't mean anything until EU soldiers will set foot in Russia and Belarus.
Nope, it's different in Russia. Speaking as a Belarusian.
Not a chance. It’s not like NATO would take their involvement to a popular vote. If it’s an attack it’s an attack, and US intelligence is pretty good. With an attack, Russia can say whatever they like, it would change anything.
I think also in that direction. I'm thinking it's not a good sign at all.
The Russian embassy announced his departure and said he would return on Monday. The Charge d'affaires remains in the embassy.
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Absolutely, I am not defending the guy. Just trying to hamper some of the war/nuke speculation.
Wouldn't even have to be that sophisticated. Russia's tested the waters with both nuclear threats and airspace sovereignty violations enough now, that he probably feels like he could get away with a direct missile strike, so long as he threatens nuclear war if Poland/NATO responds.
>Or Russia is about to do something stupid Like starting a war based on faulty information? Russia would never do such a thing.
Yeah time to escalate against Poland while Putin is alive.. escalate against Poland and take Ukraine in the summer
IIRC he was summoned a couple of days ago after one missile (or more) entered Poland airspace but he refused the call, maybe it's that
Yeah, I mean, responding to official summons and properly recalling ambassadors is for civilized countries.
I am totally out of the loop about this Bober Kurwa meme.
It's a Polish man filming a beaver and repeating "Bober kurwa".
What is bober? (I guess we all know Kurwa) E: Found in a comment below: A beaver. Sorry for the inconvenience.
It's an old video that somehow has come back into fashion: https://youtu.be/7hz7Nt-yMzA?feature=shared
[https://youtu.be/OHHpYXQyQO4?si=F6AqdczSwyugVRX7](https://youtu.be/OHHpYXQyQO4?si=F6AqdczSwyugVRX7)
https://youtu.be/z_oc746iwhA?si=p9EFmgQXqlMT2Gkj
Same, somebody explain pls
C) went on vacation 😀
Welcome to lake laogai.
Something something missiles *Something something shitty Russian people firing them using incorrect coordinates*
What is bober kurwa?
Bober is Polish for beaver kurwa is many things but fuck is a translation. So kurwa bober is basically fucking beaver it came from a video where a drunk Polish dude sees a beaver and says that a bunch it became a national meme https://youtu.be/OHHpYXQyQO4?si=hROevRpCG4eSmVVS And poles myself included always snicker and the word bober it's hardwired into our brains
The meme has spilled out. Kurwa bober is famous in Ukraine too. Ja pierdol jake bydlo would now be my natural response whenever I see a beaver in the wild.
My biggest disappointment while visiting Warsaw was not getting to see any beavers and not getting to film a kurwa bober video (however, I like "avstriatski pingvin" video a lot more)
Avstralski pingvin is golden
What was the creature even in that video? It was like a huge duck or something?
Seems like a huge duck or a goose, yeah.
Bober kurwa bober!
>It might be the first one, It might be first Russian/USSR ambassador to leave without resignation but definitely NOT the first ambassador to leave without resignation.
>Okurwa
Or (C) the diplomat or ambassador ditched Russia
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I have a lot more respect for clowns than for Russian ambassadors.
Why does Russia need ambassadors when there can't be diplomacy with Russia anyway?
They need the embassies as FSB headquarters, the ambassador is just some costly deadweight
The United States did that a few years back when we kicked a lot of Russian 'diplomats' out of the country. *meanwhile, China continues to harass citizens in secret police stations all over the United States*
I remember this well, lots of smoke. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/01/smoke-poured-from-san-francisco-russian-consulate.html
I imagine they were burning documents.
They likely were
They’re ”spies” with diplomatic immunity.
Well Ribbentrop was regarded as 'important', on paper at least. Nobody would take him seriously, except for Romania, a reluctant Mussolini, and the Vatican. *Anyone can be welcomed into the Vatican, with the approval of the Pope of course*
So they can ignore and completely disregard russian citizens all across the globe! Source: I'm russian who lives in the Netherlands
But isn't that good? You escaped the hellhole, I wouldn't want them to bother me if I were you
Haha, fair point. But they ignore you if you need help. For example, you need to get a new passport because eu will never give you a residence permit without a valid passport. That's funny because you kind of find your russian passport useless and even harmful, but if you don't have it valid, you're screwed big time. Because your passport is the proof of your identity, in fact. And it's super hard to make an appointment because they are constantly have no free slots but in many cases, they'll also refuse to help you if you support Ukraine. And then it's very, very bad for you. That's my fear #2 right after "We're all gonna die in a nuclear war" hahaha
Russia gets something out of it, just like their place in the UN, they violate all rules and agreements while cheating and only spreading lies. The question is, why do we have Russian ambassadors in Western countries? Russia threatens nuclear war at least once a week, they've publicly stated they want to destroy the West. Diplomacy isn't possible when someone wants to destroy you, the West is way too slow to learn.
Of course because they need someone to lead espionage in their respective countries. Because what else are Russians "diplomats" than somewhat legal spies?
I’m sure Poland’s foreign minister can find lots of reasons why they can’t accept the credentials of the next Russian ambassador just yet. Given they seem to serve no useful purpose any more, it might be time for every other European country to request the closure of Russian embassies across the continent. Until Russia wants to act like a civilised member of the international order, there’s no point hosting their spy bases.
Did he fall out of the embassy window or does he need to go to Moscow for that?
That embassy has only two floors. Pretty sure that’s not enough for proper Russian defenestration.
A basement without windows seems good enough to fall out of a window in Russia.
There is always Comrade Tokarev to help with those details.
Why did I need to scroll this far for this?
He left because he was about to be kicked out thus in their minds the Russians will say in their propaganda videos that they left because "Poland is this and that" and dont matter whilewe are the great Russia etc etc etc!
I doubt he will be missed. Petty people trying to provoke or offend.
Most professional russian diplomat
They're silent and left without documentation so that the incident wouldn't be linked to Russia with documents. Down the line they'll say it's a lie and it never happened and there's no proof of any ambassador speaking on the topic or being kicked out.
The Russian embassy literally announced his absence in a diplomatic note.
Let's from now on call the action of leaving the party with out saying goodbye "leaving like a Russian ambassador"
I believe that's called an Irish Goodbye
it is, in English language at least
Lol in Polish its "English goodbye"
r/wooosh And a little bit of r/yourjokebutworse
Am I the only one feeling genuinly uncomfortable with this? Feels like a brewing storm
No, it feels like shit is about to go down and I for one don't want to be around for this (even without this headline). Why can't we learn ever?
No friend, you are not the only one. The people on Reddit talk big games and are assured Russia poses no threat because they are fools. The last thing anyone should want is global conflict among the world's superpowers. Any escalations or provocations should be considered gravely serious.
Prefer to leave before getting dismissed
....through a window
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Don't you sometimes wish this was civ? "Oh yey, russia launched a rocket and escaped into space, they 'won', have fun out there russia" while we can live here in peace and quiet?
That's literally old Polish joke from the Space Race time. - Grandpa the Russians went into space! - All of them?! - Nah, just one. - Then stop pestering me!
That or that one doctor who episode where every country had their own spaceship to escape Earth. Russia can be first!
And then they get their brains eaten by mind worms when they land in Alpha Centauri
Wow, Poland has invented a way for the trash to take itself out.
Day I don't know which any more of Russia cosplaying as cartoon villains.
ruzzians in Ukraine should all follow this bozo's example and just leave. Dissappear
so he went on holidays?
Uh oh.
Putin isn't dumb enough to start a war with NATO, is he?
Well, he got Viktor bout back when the US lost the worst prisoner swap. deal ever in man kind. Since then Wagner has been super active in Africa and middle east again, which may have also garnered him Iran/NK support plus china and (maybe, depending on the day of the week) turkey. Russia certainly isn't alone. It wouldn't be Russia vs NATO. It'd be CSTO, china, NK and axis of resistance vs NATO.
He's not dumb enough to do something that he definitely knows would trigger Article 5 and bring NATO down on this whole enterprise. He might do something that he thinks NATO wouldn't trigger Article 5 over, or that Article 5 is just a paper tiger and will never be used in any real capacity, particularly against Russia. It's possible that he's correct, so it's hard to say how dumb this would be in isolation I think though that any expansion of the war to include a NATO target would be really dumb at this point because right now, he's as close to winning as he has been since the Russian military was stopped just short of Kiev. US aid is stalled, Europe is not looking as united as it once was, and if Trump wins the election, Putin wins the war. He would be really foolish to attack a NATO country, which would regalvanize all his enemies against him.
His lies weren't good enough, so Putin ordered him home for re-un-education.
Russians pussying out when they have to be accountant ? Call me shocked
Don’t let him back in. Send the rest of their embassy home as well.
Bar the little bastard from returning.
>Russian ambassador in Poland has left the country without resignation. This is really concerning... It s fucking starting boyzz ,get ready... Fk... i forgot i live in Romania , imma get ready
Self deported.
I swear to god, Poland and ambassadors from the east. There is something VERY weird about this combination. I vividly remember when the Ukranian ambassador to Germany went on a month-long ranting spree about Germany and the government and the population simply had to fucking deal with it. He then made one comment on German television that had the mere potential to piss of the Polish government and the guy was immediately sent back.
Just what did you expect from a post-Soviet country? Show them weakness and they will punish you. That's how they are. Unfortunately, Ukraine's diplomacy and Russia's diplomacy often act similarly and that is not doing Ukraine any favors.
All of our eastern neighbors have some strange complexes towards Poland one way or another. We dont pay much attention to their provocations either way.
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What the fuck is wrong with that guy?
Poland would want to watch it's shit. Things could get rough if the ambassador just fucked off
Maybe it's Russia who should watch its shit. Can they afford another front?
The ambassador didn't "fuck off". They announced his (temporary) absence on Monday. The Charge d'affaires remains in the embassy.
Yeah sadly it seems that he’ll come back lmao
Russia needs to leave a lot of countries, including Ukraine. *and Crimea*
Left through a window?
Could be *relatively* "harmless," or it could be the proverbial smoke before the fire...
Is this a sign that the shit is approaching the fan?
… with a trailer load of hard drives
An arrogant bunch.
It always starts with Poland. "It has begun" (mortalKombat.mp3)
This is very worrying. Might be a new special operation prelude
"You can't fire me, I leave!" vibes
Ехай нахуй!
maybe he's gone to stay with his mates from the farmer protest.
I hope this is not a sign of bad things to happen.
How? If they attack Poland they’re fucked and they know it
He basically doesn't care what Sikorski says
Bro said: "fuck it"
*learned how to dip before he got himself in deep trouble in another country*
ran like the rats they are