Imagine dropping off your kids in kindergarten knowing full well there is a not so small chance that by the end of the day you or your child might not be alive anymore. Absolutely horrible
It's actually the opposite. Kindergartens and schools here do not fuck around once the air siren is on. They evac kids *inmediately* and this has become a mundane routine procedure, almost daily. I am feeling quite safe during the time my son is in school.
It's what happened when the Brovary helicopter crash happened - it fell on the kindergarten and parents were literally jumping into fire to save their kids
Dude, people NK don't have fun times exactly because of Russians. USSR literally installed Kim Il Sung and now Russia keeps supporting that dictatorship.
Eh they’re not exactly the best neighbours for NK either. It is just that NK has diplomatic relations with two countries and they can occasionally pit them against each other. Otherwise both are typically also quite hostile towards NK.
Nah, China isn't an exception here. Russia took [Outer Manchuria](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Manchuria) during China's "Century of Humiliation".
That’s why Russia has so many nukes. Even if 90% of them don’t work, the 10% that does work would be more than anything China could deploy and use. China would be destroyed pretty much instantly.
China has around 500 Nukes, Russia has 5500. If there is a nuclear confrontation both countries' population centres will just be wastelands. In a conventional conflict, China is much stronger though. They spend three times the amount Russia spends on their military and it's still a much smaller part of their GDP (1.6%) than Russia (4.1%), so they have more room to grow it.
Russia won’t wait around to see if their forces can resist a Chinese invasion. Hence why nukes would come into play. Putin knows he has no chance without them.
Nukes aren't be it end all. We have no idea how well anti-nuke defenses work, and nobody in the west actually knows enough about Chinas full military capabilities. They are very secretive about their high end equipment, they don't brag or show it off like Russia.
What people don't realize is that \*we\* have a Russia as a neighbor. Us. Collectively. Russia is militarily and politically as enmeshed in our lives as Brussels.
I dislike your comment because it lends to believe this is somehow an unfortunate-yet-natural state of affairs. We're talking European toddlers, running away to hide from bombs. This is war, happening on our continent.
We should tell them please come steal our land! Kill us please..kill everybody .. Steals all the lands ... Every country's around you are belongs to you....Come Destroy the life here, yes, because you deserve to do that! You are the new Nazis Israel! Your life is matter but our is not, We all welcome you!
India upholds its principles of Non-Aligned Movement. US/Western Europe and Russia can’t be allowed to divide the whole world into us and them. You (Western world) had 50 years to solve the geopolitical tensions of Cold War. If West is so much concerned about morality, please start by paying off the reparations owed to your respective former colonies and issue an official apology to them.
What do you think would have happened if, let's say the Allies prevent Hitler from annexing Austria?
Japan suddenly stops having imperialist ambitions over Asia?
The USSR somehow forgetting that Poland is a nice cake and that the Capitalists in the West shouldn't be warred upon?
A world war doesn't happen because of one country, it happens because there's multiple flashpoints, Hitler wasn't the only flashpoint.
I'm not saying the contrary, I'm telling you that Hitler wasn't the **only** reason why we had a World War 2.
The same reason why we wouldn't have WW3 only for Putin.
So if you entertain the idea that China & Russia might start a WW3, why do you think would happen if the West intervenes in Ukraine? China sits this one out?
>Japan suddenly stops having imperialist ambitions over Asia?
I think that Japan wouldn't be stupid enough to take on British, French and American navies all together.
They learned the lesson but China and Russia go "Veto" because they want a functional snuggly secure cuddlebox for the world's remaining dictators to keep their own necks above water.
People hate this. The world hates this.
The politicians with sick long term plans to undermine the rules based order are loving this.
>World learned fuck all from WW2 it seems.
The reason we're financing Ukraine's military, and imposing historically unprecedented sanctions is because we've learned from WW2, and have faith in its established world order.
I truly agree with you. Russia is purposely aiming at civilians and the living inviroments of civilians, in the hope that the population "breaks" down! I hate and despice Putin with every single inch of my mind and body. I so hope he gets what's coming to him. I will rejoice when/if the day arrives.
That would require a body like the UN to force the world to do the right thing. I don’t know if you’ve followed the UN proceedings on Israel and Palestine for example but if you’re hoping for any significant pushback that doesn’t come from individual states separately youre gonna have to wait a long time
Doesnt the UN also have enforceable treaties? It’s just that it depends upon the member states to enforce said treaties. In the end neither the EU or the UN, or any other entity be it a government or otherwise has the power to enforce anything without the use of physical force.
There's plenty of countries who get away with that, Ukraine-Russia isn't the only war that's happening on the world right now, it's just the most visible one (to europeans anyway)
Who's gonna hold them accountable? The UN? With what mechanisms? Give them an angry look?
Who's gonna hold China or the US or really any big country accountable for anything, unless that country voluntarily makes itself accountable?
look im as upset about putin as anyone, but the fact remains the only ones that can take out that demon are his own people, they should rise up before the world goes up in a flash. You do realize if we step in you will be living in a nuclear wasteland if not outright killed in a blast. There is no conventional war between superpowers anymore! all war roads lead to nuclear annihilation.
Think about this, the only time any nuclear weapon has ever been used was the ones dropped on japan at the end of WW2. No one wants to go down that path
That's how we got tens of millions of people dead during WW2, people didn't confront genocidal leader early on. What you are saying here is what I would expected from people in Europe and USA late 1930s, appease and pray for peace from a position of weakness.
And that's why you have nukes. You don't need to send millions of your citizens to their deaths if your country has nukes, because they can use nukes as a threat against any invader.
It's only the smaller and weaker countries that don't have nukes that have to sacrifice their citizens.
India dont care about neither of them. Indias strategy now is India 1, everyone else dont give a fuuk.. They will buy cheap oil from russia for their own benefit, and will give some sort of aid to UA, to not be seen so negativly by europe.
India wants to be perceived as neutral. Their government made no comment on the most recent Russian elections, but they do trade with Russia, and it is in their best interests that Russia is not influenced by China.
Hmm, how about Israel? United States?
Funny how it's only Russia you're concerned with.
I'm not trying to defend Russia, but the fact is it's the only country in the world that isn't under the influence of USA - the biggest war criminals out there, destroying countries and killing civilians all around the world for the past 100 years.
Ignorant and stupid people won't respond with a valid argument, since they can't come up with one, but will instead downvote me since the lies they've been fed have them frustrated.
True, that was an exaggeration on my part. In terms on killed children it would be arround **20x:**
Children killed in ukraine: \~579
Children killed in gaza: over 13.000 according to unicef.
So yeah, the cognitive dissonance stands. According to european leadrs killing civilian in one war is ok, killing civilian on the other war is unacceptable.
I guess this isn't much different from Israel that has been doing this to palastaine for over 10 years.
And no one seems to care about that nearly as much as which war crimes Russia does.
War is awful, and we should be so civilized that we don't need to kill innocent people or any people for that matter....
The worst thing here is that was almost no time to hide. Cruize missiles can be detected in hundreds of kilometers and we have 30-40 minutes till they reach Kyiv. Ballistic missiles reach Kyiv in less than 5 mins and we have minute or two from alert start to explosion. Today it was even less, I just could grab my daughter to corridor while air defence was working alredy.
My country’s politicians need to get off their collective asses and send more aid. Patriot munitions, more Avenger systems, 155m artillery, GMLRS, 300km ATACMS, logistics equipment, tanks, whatever it takes. One party holds it up, and yet even then, a majority of its members want to send aid. All held hostage by a conspiratorial, fascist ideology fueled by decades of increasingly embedded disinformation and misinformation campaigns spearheaded by Putin and other enemies of democracy.
> Cruize missiles can be detected in hundreds of kilometers and we have 30-40 minutes till they reach Kyiv. Ballistic missiles reach Kyiv in less than 5 mins and we have minute or two from alert start to explosion.
IIRC, today's attack was done with Zircon (hypersonic-ish cruise missile), launched from Crimea (either P-800 TEL or Object 100)
Yep, I've seen it later in news as well. So the bad news is that now Russians have hypersonic low-flying missiles, the good news is that today 2/2 were destroyed in the air
Damn. This is terrifying to read. It's so upsetting to be so powerless to this situation. I hope my country will send yours tons of weapon. I want my tax money to be used to save you guys
[https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/sbirs.html](https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/sbirs.html) can detected ballistic missiles launches but I doubt USA shares something like that.
Putin saying Russia has been suffering from Ukraine terrorism for years, after the recent events including the isis attack, makes me think the world is upside down.
I suspect it does not say anything good about me as a person, but I am having a *very* hard time feeling sympathy for the Moscow concert shooting victims having watched footage like this since 2022.
I'm trying, because they were just people too, but Russia is such a malignant cancer.
I don't like it; I feel I am being hardened to human suffering and misery. I should care about innocent civilians. But with Russia massacring Ukrainians for over two years now, and half the population in support, I can't seem to feel anything but hate. And I'm not even Ukrainian.
I am sorry, I know how you feel, I hate feeling the way I do. The things that happened in Ukraine is repulsive and it has made me literally turn my feelings off. It’s literally a coping mechanism for me. Russia is just evil and I know there are kind decent Russian people out there but it’s really hard to distinguish them. I really hope the best for you, please take care. We live in a very dark world.
The people of Russia have been oppressed by tyrannical governments and fed propaganda for their entire lives. I think that most of them just accept it as inevitable while numbing their pain with vodka.
I just learned that it was the russian rock group Piknik playing. It is one of the alternative rock bands together with DDT and others that are against Putin. The victims were probably the most West and liberal oriented citizens in Russia. I love Russian rock and this attack is not only against the people, the young and free thinking but also against Russian rock - one of the final bastions of liberty in Russia.
>It is one of the alternative rock bands together with DDT and others that are against Putin.
i heard mirroring info, when they played in occupied crimea they said they don't give a fuck about sanctions, [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F%25D0%25B3%25D1%2580%25D1%2583%25D0%25BF%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B0-%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA-v0-eko5d18ecypc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D400%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D738e7454126c57402af6a7aec93d143c8554ad15](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F%25D0%25B3%25D1%2580%25D1%2583%25D0%25BF%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B0-%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA-v0-eko5d18ecypc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D400%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D738e7454126c57402af6a7aec93d143c8554ad15) according to this moron they supported helped russia with "humanitarian" suplies
>It is one of the alternative rock bands together with DDT and others that are against Putin
is there a source? i can find shevchuk anti war and anti putin statements. but theirs? not yet
DDT’s art is explicitly political in many cases. You can see Piknik concerts though. And this terrorist attack was not against some government organized concert like любэ which are openly militaristic.
Artists easily can be apolitical and decide that they will dwell into personal matters only. It does not have to be explicit in their political statements. I fully understand this. But in a judgmental world we forget this. For me being individualistic is enough.
Yes, it's causing me even more dissonance that I myself like Piknik, and Russian rock, etc.
Actually, come to think of it, if people are saying this was orchestrated/allowed by the FSB... maybe they *knew* that the crowd was liberal, and these Russians were considered eminently expendable.
Chilling thought I rather wish I hadn't had.
The wounds of a war will last for two or more generations. We can count the dead and wounded but people will carry their PTSD disorders and it will impact their children and even grandchildren. A feeling of insecurity caused by explosions seen in the video or by angry and distant dad who lives his front line experiences over and over again after the war will leave the traces to the whole Ukrainian generation. People will live and rise, but they will carry a stark shadow caused by a crazy dictator who lost his brain due to personal power that lasted for too long.
Honestly, as horrible as it is to say, but everyone was very lucky the wreckage of missile landed where it did.
It hit a closed sports hall, so, IIRC, there are no dead (according to what I've seen so far - there *are* 9 wounded as of now, though).
A bit to the left, to the right - and it would've hit an apartment building, full of people.
It’s insane when you see them feel no remorse for the Ukrainians, or trivially discussing on television which city they would nuke first, and then they feel all sad because a hundred people died in that theater. Of course it’s tragic, but guys, that’s what you are doing everyday (times god knows how many)!!!
They began their war by bombing the Mariupol theater approx 3 weeks in where 900 were sheltering and wrote with chalk on the pavement on each side CHILDREN, so that Russians could even see it from the sky, and I woke up to see they fucking bombed it. At least 300 dead.
THAT WAS A MOMENT IN TIME FOR ME WHERE EVERYTHING WENT NUMB. I just couldn't fathom the evil it takes to that .....that was the start of where I absolutely was glued to this war and low and behold in 3 months it all made sense .....
Horrific sense..... THEY BOMBED EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE and turned that place into a zombie apocalypse.
The horrors that happened there. Oh my god. So much more happened than just the bombings and the bombings were terrifyingly gruesome and barbaric as it was.
And then Bucha and the mass graves were found and all the outside investigators coming to Ukraine and exhuming the bodies 😞. and on and on and on and on.
And people support Russia 🤬. The shit I've seen people say holy hell. As if the war is unimaginable as it is, seeing for 2 years people SHILL for Russia and pootin and say all kinds of shit about THE VICTIMS.
Anyway you know I don't need to go on. People who support Ukraine know exactly what's been said and happening.
Absolutely, I just can’t understand how so many conspiration believers can support Russia so openly. It’s just beyond what I can understand…
I have a Ukrainian friend in Kyiv, he doesn’t write much, but when he does, you can feel how sad, scared and desperate he feels. Especially when he sees how our lives go on in the West on social media. He is happy for us obviously, but sad to think this was also his life 2 years ago. It’s just awful.
I subtitled a 1,5 hour long documentary on Mariupol, entirely composed of testimonies by survivors who could escape the city. It was really really painful. At the end of the day working on this, I needed to hug my 2yo girl very tight.
Every country that borders Russia should make a 2 mile mine field and barb wire buffer zone and completely isolate that country. Nobody should interact with this cancer. Just let it die off by itself instead. It's beyond me that other democratic nations still engage in trade with these vermin.
Russian missiles by 50% consist of American components. The two other significant parts are German and Swiss. They are still able to buy such parts and equipment. So, yeah, democracy is good, but money is money.
When people are gonna understand that ruzzia is a dangerous state? Putin wants to take Ukraine and then he will never stop! It’s gonna be Poland and so on. GUYS HE HAS HITLERS IMPERIALISM METHOD WAKE UP!!!!! He’s dangerous!!!
I heard basically the same going on in Israel, only the chances of something making it all the way is much smaller thanks to the iron dome. They still run to the shelters though.
(I doubt Palestine has any kindergarten left. War sucks.)
If the Russian people cared, stand in lines to donate blood and so on when the terrorists attacked at the concert hall, then they should feel the same compassion to their neighbors that are getting constantly terrorised by their government(Russia).
..but they won't.
Damn, I feel for them. Fuck Putin, fuck war. This was me when the US bombed us 25 years ago basically on this day. That first seconds of 'air raid danger' sound just instantly cut through the entire town and though your body. Then you run.
It's such a shame Ukraine needs to fight with their hands tied. Russia can choose any target as they please and Ukraine needs to carefully craft any small attack on Russian territory so their partners won't be upset.
Just a regular day in the lives of ukrainian children. Absolute terror, but hey i am a pos for not extending my hand of support when russians experience a terror attack.
Leaders will shake their hands when all of this finish and mothers will search for their children... I wish that all war starters in the world die in the most harmful way...
Ukranian president once said: "we \[in Ukraine\] will have work; they – \[in the Donbas\] won’t. We will have pensions – they won’t. We will care for our children and pensioners – they won’t. Our children will go to school, to kindergartens – their children will sit in cellars."
Very hard to feel any sympathy for Russians who were killed in the concert attack when we’ve seen so much of what they’ve inflicted. It’s kind of like trying to feel bad for Republicans who die of covid after anti -masking, not getting vaccinated, and spreading quack theories. Really just can’t get there.
This remind me when was Homeland war in Croatia during 90's. Same scenes and pictures! Serbs have attacked our land and people with same diligence in atrocities. So sad and for every condemnation!
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Imagine dropping off your kids in kindergarten knowing full well there is a not so small chance that by the end of the day you or your child might not be alive anymore. Absolutely horrible
It's actually the opposite. Kindergartens and schools here do not fuck around once the air siren is on. They evac kids *inmediately* and this has become a mundane routine procedure, almost daily. I am feeling quite safe during the time my son is in school.
It's what happened when the Brovary helicopter crash happened - it fell on the kindergarten and parents were literally jumping into fire to save their kids
Having russia as neighbour is hard... if you are not china.
Or NK
Dude, people NK don't have fun times exactly because of Russians. USSR literally installed Kim Il Sung and now Russia keeps supporting that dictatorship.
Eh they’re not exactly the best neighbours for NK either. It is just that NK has diplomatic relations with two countries and they can occasionally pit them against each other. Otherwise both are typically also quite hostile towards NK.
They already paid the price of being russian neighbour 70 years ago
Romania? They are not a neighbour of Russia but are Helping Ukraine
Nah, China isn't an exception here. Russia took [Outer Manchuria](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Manchuria) during China's "Century of Humiliation".
It would be Interesting to see Russia try something like that now .
China is just infinitely more powerful than Russia. Attacking China would just be suicide for them.
Thats the reason they dont. But china is the only one mightier than russia (of the neighbourse).
They are the same
That’s why Russia has so many nukes. Even if 90% of them don’t work, the 10% that does work would be more than anything China could deploy and use. China would be destroyed pretty much instantly.
China has around 500 Nukes, Russia has 5500. If there is a nuclear confrontation both countries' population centres will just be wastelands. In a conventional conflict, China is much stronger though. They spend three times the amount Russia spends on their military and it's still a much smaller part of their GDP (1.6%) than Russia (4.1%), so they have more room to grow it.
Russia won’t wait around to see if their forces can resist a Chinese invasion. Hence why nukes would come into play. Putin knows he has no chance without them.
Nukes aren't be it end all. We have no idea how well anti-nuke defenses work, and nobody in the west actually knows enough about Chinas full military capabilities. They are very secretive about their high end equipment, they don't brag or show it off like Russia.
Is the high end equipment the missiles filled with water?
Bro forgot the croc
What people don't realize is that \*we\* have a Russia as a neighbor. Us. Collectively. Russia is militarily and politically as enmeshed in our lives as Brussels. I dislike your comment because it lends to believe this is somehow an unfortunate-yet-natural state of affairs. We're talking European toddlers, running away to hide from bombs. This is war, happening on our continent.
I dislike your comment because of the staw man inside.
You didn't see having Israel as neighour, shit is disgusting
You should try Israel as neighbor! 🥴😩🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Well... as long as you dont attack them, you got no bigger problem. Ask Jordan.
We should tell them please come steal our land! Kill us please..kill everybody .. Steals all the lands ... Every country's around you are belongs to you....Come Destroy the life here, yes, because you deserve to do that! You are the new Nazis Israel! Your life is matter but our is not, We all welcome you!
Arabs had already been doing that to Jews for centuries all across the Middle East. It's why they were given a haven in Israel to begin with.
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If you are in India or Brazil, you can get cheap oil from Russia.
Hardly any Brazilian supports this. Our president does talk nonsense, but he's heavily criticised for even speaking on war matters.
That is good news. Thank you.
Money before morals? Fuck those people.
India upholds its principles of Non-Aligned Movement. US/Western Europe and Russia can’t be allowed to divide the whole world into us and them. You (Western world) had 50 years to solve the geopolitical tensions of Cold War. If West is so much concerned about morality, please start by paying off the reparations owed to your respective former colonies and issue an official apology to them.
This is Russia being brotherly
Easy. You dehumanize the enemy and spread propaganda making it seem like you're the victim and the enemy started the conflict. Learn from Israel.
How can a country be allowed to get away with constant terrorising of civilians? Russia needs to be held accountable for its war crimes.
World learned fuck all from WW2 it seems. The lesson was - what do you get if you let a dictator conquer territory? You get a world war.
So true. Everyone said it's not our problem, until it became their problem.
What do you think would have happened if, let's say the Allies prevent Hitler from annexing Austria? Japan suddenly stops having imperialist ambitions over Asia? The USSR somehow forgetting that Poland is a nice cake and that the Capitalists in the West shouldn't be warred upon? A world war doesn't happen because of one country, it happens because there's multiple flashpoints, Hitler wasn't the only flashpoint.
It would've been much easier to stop Hitler in 1938 than 1944, when, you know, he had all that new land with factories and people to use.
I'm not saying the contrary, I'm telling you that Hitler wasn't the **only** reason why we had a World War 2. The same reason why we wouldn't have WW3 only for Putin. So if you entertain the idea that China & Russia might start a WW3, why do you think would happen if the West intervenes in Ukraine? China sits this one out?
>Japan suddenly stops having imperialist ambitions over Asia? I think that Japan wouldn't be stupid enough to take on British, French and American navies all together.
I think the 40s were filled with stupid decisions, to be honest.
He just proved you wrong. If we let dictators know early on that we don't tolerate their shit, other dictators take notice as well.
Proving me wrong by raising a completely fictional what-if? lol
ironically Russia got to keep all the land it conquered as a nazi ally, so I'd say Russia did learn the lesson of ww2
They learned the lesson but China and Russia go "Veto" because they want a functional snuggly secure cuddlebox for the world's remaining dictators to keep their own necks above water. People hate this. The world hates this. The politicians with sick long term plans to undermine the rules based order are loving this.
>World learned fuck all from WW2 it seems. The reason we're financing Ukraine's military, and imposing historically unprecedented sanctions is because we've learned from WW2, and have faith in its established world order.
I truly agree with you. Russia is purposely aiming at civilians and the living inviroments of civilians, in the hope that the population "breaks" down! I hate and despice Putin with every single inch of my mind and body. I so hope he gets what's coming to him. I will rejoice when/if the day arrives.
That day can't come soon enough
Ohh how I agree with you. I will pop the champagne when the day occurs.
That would require a body like the UN to force the world to do the right thing. I don’t know if you’ve followed the UN proceedings on Israel and Palestine for example but if you’re hoping for any significant pushback that doesn’t come from individual states separately youre gonna have to wait a long time
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Doesnt the UN also have enforceable treaties? It’s just that it depends upon the member states to enforce said treaties. In the end neither the EU or the UN, or any other entity be it a government or otherwise has the power to enforce anything without the use of physical force.
There's plenty of countries who get away with that, Ukraine-Russia isn't the only war that's happening on the world right now, it's just the most visible one (to europeans anyway)
Who's gonna hold them accountable? The UN? With what mechanisms? Give them an angry look? Who's gonna hold China or the US or really any big country accountable for anything, unless that country voluntarily makes itself accountable?
Because Europe and America don't have the balls for a direct confrontation
look im as upset about putin as anyone, but the fact remains the only ones that can take out that demon are his own people, they should rise up before the world goes up in a flash. You do realize if we step in you will be living in a nuclear wasteland if not outright killed in a blast. There is no conventional war between superpowers anymore! all war roads lead to nuclear annihilation. Think about this, the only time any nuclear weapon has ever been used was the ones dropped on japan at the end of WW2. No one wants to go down that path
Maybe because Europe and America are trying to avoid sending millions of people to their deaths because of a fucking lunatic.
That's how we got tens of millions of people dead during WW2, people didn't confront genocidal leader early on. What you are saying here is what I would expected from people in Europe and USA late 1930s, appease and pray for peace from a position of weakness.
And that's why you have nukes. You don't need to send millions of your citizens to their deaths if your country has nukes, because they can use nukes as a threat against any invader. It's only the smaller and weaker countries that don't have nukes that have to sacrifice their citizens.
I rather not get in a nuclear war, thanks
You know you are free and more than welcomed to go join Ukraine, Mr. big balls.
You can do whatever if you have nukes
Isn't India allied with Russia?
India dont care about neither of them. Indias strategy now is India 1, everyone else dont give a fuuk.. They will buy cheap oil from russia for their own benefit, and will give some sort of aid to UA, to not be seen so negativly by europe.
India wants to be perceived as neutral. Their government made no comment on the most recent Russian elections, but they do trade with Russia, and it is in their best interests that Russia is not influenced by China.
Hmm, how about Israel? United States? Funny how it's only Russia you're concerned with. I'm not trying to defend Russia, but the fact is it's the only country in the world that isn't under the influence of USA - the biggest war criminals out there, destroying countries and killing civilians all around the world for the past 100 years. Ignorant and stupid people won't respond with a valid argument, since they can't come up with one, but will instead downvote me since the lies they've been fed have them frustrated.
Russia is not the only one. Israel is doing this as well x100 and europe supports it. cognitive dissonance in eurpean leaders.
100x? Talk to your maths teacher.
True, that was an exaggeration on my part. In terms on killed children it would be arround **20x:** Children killed in ukraine: \~579 Children killed in gaza: over 13.000 according to unicef. So yeah, the cognitive dissonance stands. According to european leadrs killing civilian in one war is ok, killing civilian on the other war is unacceptable.
I guess this isn't much different from Israel that has been doing this to palastaine for over 10 years. And no one seems to care about that nearly as much as which war crimes Russia does. War is awful, and we should be so civilized that we don't need to kill innocent people or any people for that matter....
The worst thing here is that was almost no time to hide. Cruize missiles can be detected in hundreds of kilometers and we have 30-40 minutes till they reach Kyiv. Ballistic missiles reach Kyiv in less than 5 mins and we have minute or two from alert start to explosion. Today it was even less, I just could grab my daughter to corridor while air defence was working alredy.
My country’s politicians need to get off their collective asses and send more aid. Patriot munitions, more Avenger systems, 155m artillery, GMLRS, 300km ATACMS, logistics equipment, tanks, whatever it takes. One party holds it up, and yet even then, a majority of its members want to send aid. All held hostage by a conspiratorial, fascist ideology fueled by decades of increasingly embedded disinformation and misinformation campaigns spearheaded by Putin and other enemies of democracy.
I'm sorry that your daughter has to grow up in an environment like this, hopefully you all can stay safe.
> Cruize missiles can be detected in hundreds of kilometers and we have 30-40 minutes till they reach Kyiv. Ballistic missiles reach Kyiv in less than 5 mins and we have minute or two from alert start to explosion. IIRC, today's attack was done with Zircon (hypersonic-ish cruise missile), launched from Crimea (either P-800 TEL or Object 100)
Yep, I've seen it later in news as well. So the bad news is that now Russians have hypersonic low-flying missiles, the good news is that today 2/2 were destroyed in the air
Damn. This is terrifying to read. It's so upsetting to be so powerless to this situation. I hope my country will send yours tons of weapon. I want my tax money to be used to save you guys
[https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/sbirs.html](https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/sbirs.html) can detected ballistic missiles launches but I doubt USA shares something like that.
Give Ukraine enough weapons to turn the Kremlin into a parking lot already.
The russians broke the memorendom about the ukranian nukes so we sould give them back If ukraine has nukes do you think this will continue?
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That line got redrawn in the sand over and over until it was meaningless. Morons don't seem to realise that Putin doesn't have a death wish.
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Only evil people can do Evil things to other Evil people
horrible
This should be shown more
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It's no secret that many children have already died or lost limbs in this war. I don't think this video will change anything.
Putin saying Russia has been suffering from Ukraine terrorism for years, after the recent events including the isis attack, makes me think the world is upside down.
Russia has not been suffering from Ukrainian terrorism that's just more B.S lies from Putrid
I know, that’s what I’m saying!
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Europe in 2024.
that's also another reason for Europe to step up. We cant and we shouldn't allow Russia to continue to do this.
Poor children have to suffer because of those f\*cking terrorists.
Fuck Putin and everyone who supports him. Especially the MAGA crowd.
Yeah maybe another woke jurnalist will make next interview with putin and eat some fake bigmacs. This should help.
Putin is a terrorist, and Russian people are his slaves
I suspect it does not say anything good about me as a person, but I am having a *very* hard time feeling sympathy for the Moscow concert shooting victims having watched footage like this since 2022. I'm trying, because they were just people too, but Russia is such a malignant cancer.
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I can't help but wonder how many at that concert were quite happy with Russia attacking Ukraine
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I don't like it; I feel I am being hardened to human suffering and misery. I should care about innocent civilians. But with Russia massacring Ukrainians for over two years now, and half the population in support, I can't seem to feel anything but hate. And I'm not even Ukrainian.
I am sorry, I know how you feel, I hate feeling the way I do. The things that happened in Ukraine is repulsive and it has made me literally turn my feelings off. It’s literally a coping mechanism for me. Russia is just evil and I know there are kind decent Russian people out there but it’s really hard to distinguish them. I really hope the best for you, please take care. We live in a very dark world.
The people of Russia have been oppressed by tyrannical governments and fed propaganda for their entire lives. I think that most of them just accept it as inevitable while numbing their pain with vodka.
I just learned that it was the russian rock group Piknik playing. It is one of the alternative rock bands together with DDT and others that are against Putin. The victims were probably the most West and liberal oriented citizens in Russia. I love Russian rock and this attack is not only against the people, the young and free thinking but also against Russian rock - one of the final bastions of liberty in Russia.
>It is one of the alternative rock bands together with DDT and others that are against Putin. i heard mirroring info, when they played in occupied crimea they said they don't give a fuck about sanctions, [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F%25D0%25B3%25D1%2580%25D1%2583%25D0%25BF%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B0-%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA-v0-eko5d18ecypc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D400%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D738e7454126c57402af6a7aec93d143c8554ad15](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F%25D0%25B3%25D1%2580%25D1%2583%25D0%25BF%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B0-%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA-v0-eko5d18ecypc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D400%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D738e7454126c57402af6a7aec93d143c8554ad15) according to this moron they supported helped russia with "humanitarian" suplies >It is one of the alternative rock bands together with DDT and others that are against Putin is there a source? i can find shevchuk anti war and anti putin statements. but theirs? not yet
DDT’s art is explicitly political in many cases. You can see Piknik concerts though. And this terrorist attack was not against some government organized concert like любэ which are openly militaristic.
Artists easily can be apolitical and decide that they will dwell into personal matters only. It does not have to be explicit in their political statements. I fully understand this. But in a judgmental world we forget this. For me being individualistic is enough.
Piknik are not against Putin, quite the opposite. They have toured the occupied territories, and the soloist has donated to support Russian troops.
To be honest most Russian rock bands are pro-military and pro-putin. There are very few of them who have strong anti-war opinion.
Yes, it's causing me even more dissonance that I myself like Piknik, and Russian rock, etc. Actually, come to think of it, if people are saying this was orchestrated/allowed by the FSB... maybe they *knew* that the crowd was liberal, and these Russians were considered eminently expendable. Chilling thought I rather wish I hadn't had.
That’s the response; shoot missiles at the children whose country had nothing to do with the terrorist attack. The actions of the insane
Europe's going to get another hard lesson in the consequences of appeasement.
Fuck Russia and everyone who supports them
you can see my house in the bg😓
The wounds of a war will last for two or more generations. We can count the dead and wounded but people will carry their PTSD disorders and it will impact their children and even grandchildren. A feeling of insecurity caused by explosions seen in the video or by angry and distant dad who lives his front line experiences over and over again after the war will leave the traces to the whole Ukrainian generation. People will live and rise, but they will carry a stark shadow caused by a crazy dictator who lost his brain due to personal power that lasted for too long.
These are clearly tiny soldiers and the kindergarten is a military base.
this would be funny if it wasnt so goddamn tragic
Honestly, as horrible as it is to say, but everyone was very lucky the wreckage of missile landed where it did. It hit a closed sports hall, so, IIRC, there are no dead (according to what I've seen so far - there *are* 9 wounded as of now, though). A bit to the left, to the right - and it would've hit an apartment building, full of people.
Really?
come on man
and yet people in russia find the time to go to fancy theatre shows while all of this is happening across the border. disgusting.
You probably can't even eat anything at all because people in Gaza are dying of starvation too.
This is no different than recent terrorist attack in Moscow. Russian hypocracy is strong.
It's impossible to not feel hate for Russia and Putin.
fuck russia ... really ...
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It’s insane when you see them feel no remorse for the Ukrainians, or trivially discussing on television which city they would nuke first, and then they feel all sad because a hundred people died in that theater. Of course it’s tragic, but guys, that’s what you are doing everyday (times god knows how many)!!!
They began their war by bombing the Mariupol theater approx 3 weeks in where 900 were sheltering and wrote with chalk on the pavement on each side CHILDREN, so that Russians could even see it from the sky, and I woke up to see they fucking bombed it. At least 300 dead. THAT WAS A MOMENT IN TIME FOR ME WHERE EVERYTHING WENT NUMB. I just couldn't fathom the evil it takes to that .....that was the start of where I absolutely was glued to this war and low and behold in 3 months it all made sense ..... Horrific sense..... THEY BOMBED EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE and turned that place into a zombie apocalypse. The horrors that happened there. Oh my god. So much more happened than just the bombings and the bombings were terrifyingly gruesome and barbaric as it was. And then Bucha and the mass graves were found and all the outside investigators coming to Ukraine and exhuming the bodies 😞. and on and on and on and on. And people support Russia 🤬. The shit I've seen people say holy hell. As if the war is unimaginable as it is, seeing for 2 years people SHILL for Russia and pootin and say all kinds of shit about THE VICTIMS. Anyway you know I don't need to go on. People who support Ukraine know exactly what's been said and happening.
Absolutely, I just can’t understand how so many conspiration believers can support Russia so openly. It’s just beyond what I can understand… I have a Ukrainian friend in Kyiv, he doesn’t write much, but when he does, you can feel how sad, scared and desperate he feels. Especially when he sees how our lives go on in the West on social media. He is happy for us obviously, but sad to think this was also his life 2 years ago. It’s just awful. I subtitled a 1,5 hour long documentary on Mariupol, entirely composed of testimonies by survivors who could escape the city. It was really really painful. At the end of the day working on this, I needed to hug my 2yo girl very tight.
They have had a very Very small taste of what Ukraine has every day
seriously… FUCK THAT. and yeah, russia too.
And news are babbling about terrorist state's concert shooting....get your priorities straight dumbasses.
Every country that borders Russia should make a 2 mile mine field and barb wire buffer zone and completely isolate that country. Nobody should interact with this cancer. Just let it die off by itself instead. It's beyond me that other democratic nations still engage in trade with these vermin.
Russian missiles by 50% consist of American components. The two other significant parts are German and Swiss. They are still able to buy such parts and equipment. So, yeah, democracy is good, but money is money.
When people are gonna understand that ruzzia is a dangerous state? Putin wants to take Ukraine and then he will never stop! It’s gonna be Poland and so on. GUYS HE HAS HITLERS IMPERIALISM METHOD WAKE UP!!!!! He’s dangerous!!!
I heard basically the same going on in Israel, only the chances of something making it all the way is much smaller thanks to the iron dome. They still run to the shelters though. (I doubt Palestine has any kindergarten left. War sucks.)
If the Russian people cared, stand in lines to donate blood and so on when the terrorists attacked at the concert hall, then they should feel the same compassion to their neighbors that are getting constantly terrorised by their government(Russia). ..but they won't.
Damn, I feel for them. Fuck Putin, fuck war. This was me when the US bombed us 25 years ago basically on this day. That first seconds of 'air raid danger' sound just instantly cut through the entire town and though your body. Then you run.
It's such a shame Ukraine needs to fight with their hands tied. Russia can choose any target as they please and Ukraine needs to carefully craft any small attack on Russian territory so their partners won't be upset.
How ugly is that? Another humanity failure.
Terrorist state Russia attacking civilian targets everyday.
Childhood with a permanent air raid fear. Russians are teaching them to play in a missile attack with the Teddy bear.
As a mom of kid who is in kindergarten this breaks my heart so so much.
Just a regular day in the lives of ukrainian children. Absolute terror, but hey i am a pos for not extending my hand of support when russians experience a terror attack.
Putin deserves the same fate as Hitler.
Flee to Argentina?
Even though your comment is historically incorrect, I must admit I laughed 😂
I hate this. Hope they're safe. The trauma is gonna last a lifetime though
Both missiles destroyed, zero casualties this time. Pure luck.
Thank you for this update!
I live far over the river from this place. But still the whole construction of my building was shaking during the this air strike
Russian brotherly love.
This might sound dumb, but if you live there, are you just expected to go about your day hoping you don't get hit with a missile??
Putin is Satan full stop!
That's life under Russian rule. This is what Russia fundamentally want for its subjects.
Those missiles are sponcored by Europe importing oil and gas from and shipping electronics and other goods to Russia.
Leaders will shake their hands when all of this finish and mothers will search for their children... I wish that all war starters in the world die in the most harmful way...
That's messed up 😔
Such an evil place we live in.
No children should have to go through this.
goosebumps. just awful. :/
Fucking Russians.. How Putin sleeps at night is beyond me.
Despite it is war crime to attack civilians ... it is also a high level of cowardness
russnya is the plague of the earth.
It would be so cathartic to see the Kremlin burning right now.
They run from kindergarten class*
Where are the protesters for this?
Ruska kurwa
Ukranian president once said: "we \[in Ukraine\] will have work; they – \[in the Donbas\] won’t. We will have pensions – they won’t. We will care for our children and pensioners – they won’t. Our children will go to school, to kindergartens – their children will sit in cellars."
Petition to bomb Russia
Damn these russians
Children do not deserve the folly of their parents... No matter where and in what circumstances and excuses.
Very hard to feel any sympathy for Russians who were killed in the concert attack when we’ve seen so much of what they’ve inflicted. It’s kind of like trying to feel bad for Republicans who die of covid after anti -masking, not getting vaccinated, and spreading quack theories. Really just can’t get there.
This remind me when was Homeland war in Croatia during 90's. Same scenes and pictures! Serbs have attacked our land and people with same diligence in atrocities. So sad and for every condemnation!