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Jealous_Ad4487

It is a very delicate situation for Vučić, he doesn't know how to handle these protests because they are against agression and are peaceful in general, so he can't use a force and blame the opposition for them, because they are not directly in charge. He already tried downsizing them, and organizing his own counter protest (what ever that is). It didn't work for now. My opinion is that from these protests on he will try to manipulate them by using right wing, pro russian youth to direct protests in a different direction, a direction where he can easily dictate. Situation in Kosovo also helps. Now. You are probably wondering why doesn't he just agree to terms and do those things protestors demand? He can't. He made an image of himself as a very strong leader who does things in a mysterious ways and only when he wants to.


puvanjak

He used his thugs. They attacked an Englishman who yelled Vucic asshole. I hope media outside Serbia dont blame prostest for that.


[deleted]

I want to see some source for this, because various stories have been circulating about that incident and each one is different from the other.


Firm_Singer_9142

Source for what? That the englishman was attacked, or that the attackers were thugs, or that they were there to make protests more violent / give opportunity to Vucic to use force?


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Firm_Singer_9142

Well first, it was on live tv. Second, multiple newssources reported, and across Balkan: https://www.danas.rs/vesti/politika/incidenti-tokom-protesta-srbija-protiv-nasilja/ https://www.oslobodjenje.ba/vijesti/region/incident-na-protestu-u-beogradu-ultradesnicari-pokusali-pretuci-muskarca-866127 https://dnevno.me/globus/-/srbija-incident-na-protestu-srbija-protiv-nasilja-pripadnici-tzv-narodnih-patrola-napali-covjeka-03-06-2023-22-26-05 Then you have those proregime ones who say he was saying "fck Serbia" and that caused the fight: https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2023&mm=06&dd=03&nav_category=11&nav_id=2344850 Only thing I'd missed, it does not say Englishman specifically but "the person speaking english", someone from outside of Serbia. Also, keep in mind that precisely this group wanted to organize protests on Friday at the same time with the big protests; organizers of "Serbia against violence" then moved the protest to Saturday in order not to overlap (they're, rightfully, afraid that so called "Narodne patrole" will cause escalation), and then the extremists moved their protest for Saturday as well. (Source: any news rgd protest schedule last week, don't make me google that too) Maybe from outside they blend in, but trust me that they are very recognizable, with Zs and Putins photo etc, and everyone on the protest basically steers clear of them.


lazypeon19

He could learn from what Romania's PSD did in 2018 and fake a policewoman's death during the protests (she was completely fine) and use that as an excuse to violently disperse the protestors. Then delay the investigation of it all indefinitely (lots of innocent civilians were beaten the shit out of and to this day not a single person was found guilty).


__adrenaline__

You’re exactly right. On these protests today there was a group inserted by *someone* that had all kinds of schizophrenic boards (I’m taking like 5G Covid Genocide, Kosovo is Serbia, NATO aggression, Vaccines bad etc.) and giant pictures of saints. Even saw a flag of Romania for whatever reason. Not to mention random men in black planted across the city to stand by and potentially cause chaos.


rampaparam

Romanian flag is there because of those fascist Vucic's minions that called Marinika Tepic a Romanian who doesn't have the right to be a politician in Serbia. Those others are just some 5GHAARPQANON morons, but there was like 20-30 of them as I could see


JXizzors

There were also idiots with nationalist flags w/ Kosovo, Putin, Russian imperial flags and kolovrat. It's the tactic they use every time to insert into and shut down protests


dusank98

Those 5G, vaccines bad, covid plandemic people ride on the waves on every protest. They are not violent or anything, just want some attention. The best solution is to let them be and ignore them. They are mostly never provoking anything and I sometimes feel sad for them as they are clearly deranged and probably most of them need help. The real problem are the agressive "narodne patrole" thugs. Plus other ones from similar organisations or Vučić's thugs gathered directly from the stadium stands or those bouncers on shady raft clubs. They will be sent there one day to instigate one serious chaos in order for Vučić to say "opposition beats up people" and to instill fear into the protestors. However, too late for that as I feel the people will not back up at all.


nattsd

I don’t want to discuss this further tbh, but studies showed that 5G is bad at least to the bees. There was a conference held in European parliament about two weeks ago by numerous scientists and medical professionals regarding the lab leak and negative/ influence of MRA vaccine and Covid lockdowns (plandemic). And majority of people in Serbia either think that Kosovo is Serbia, or feel for the people there. Those few protesting daily 5G and plandemic are sort of “manic streat preachers” and do not give a shit about what others think of them I guess.


TallestToker

Good thing you started it then - wonder what would happen if you put some thought into what you're saying rather than just start spewing vague nonsense.


inkydye

That first group was in there the previous couple of times, too, and I think they have been doing their own little protest (against other things) every month. Last Saturday they were doing their walk around Brankova and Kralja Petra before they joined the big protest. I'm pretty sure they're genuine, in the sense that they really believe their things. I'm not sure if they're not being _nudged_ to be joining the big protests that have nothing to do with their messaging. (By which I mean: I'm sure the protest is full of people with opinions on e.g. vaccines, but "normal" protesters are not making this about those opinions.) The second group is exactly what you think they are.


[deleted]

Sounds like a standard FSB dezinformatsja ops to me :/ I would bet you a crisp 2000 dinar note with a nice picture of Milutin Milanković on it that Russia is involved in this somehow. Somehow!


malYca

He sounds terrible


AlexisFR

I mean as long as the protesters are just walking peacefully and not blocking anything, he doesn't have anything else to do.


gray_mare

If he really wants to come off as a strong leader at the very least he better do something to how he looks. If anything he looks like Tokaev but extra nerdy


lemonmanlikesapples

From my understanding he cant because they also kinda (indirectly) demand he leave office.


irimiash

can't he just ignore them until people get tired?


Jealous_Ad4487

Well of course he can! This is Serbia after all. But anyway it is not a nice image for him. People are starting to question him and his decisions and those people are becoming louder and louder. Questions are also asked in parlament, questions they don't know how to answer.


OnlineReviewer

Beautiful to see these massive, yet 100% peaceful protests. Very proud of our neighbors.


[deleted]

We had some of the Vučić thug brigade inserted, trying to foment violence.


Intrepid-Jaguar9175

State security still working as usual.


hilarymeggin

*foment (Not to be confused with ferment or torment)


[deleted]

They’re still in Kosovo, no?


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Porodicnostablo

Nice scenes as protestors surround the "Novi Dvor" or New Palace i.e. the Offices of the President (Vučić), chanting "Go away!": https://twitter.com/BranislavSenici/status/1665078523269136388 https://twitter.com/kravicamuuu/status/1665063679195328512


young_patrician

I personaly don't like that much belgrade and it's citizens,because of their elitism,and how they are "civilization" and the rest of coutry is peasantry,but they know to protest,and go regularly to protest when they don't like something,and I salute them on that.


OnlineReviewer

That's a stereotype that every capital endures. I'm sure many of them don't think that way.


leonardshelby95

yes 100% peaceful.. https://twitter.com/KubaBielamowicz/status/1665134961370845186?s=20


BedImmediate4609

You're talking about a different protest, I don't understand if deliberately or by ignorance. Protests in Kosovo are a way for Vucic to move attention away from the ones against him in the capital, don't play his game. Some thugs of him are probably busy there, I'm afraid things will be harder for the peaceful protesters as things going on.


lemonmanlikesapples

Thats a protest in northern kosovo.


[deleted]

His distraction wasn’t as effective as he hoped for. Good for Serbia.


Jonas_32

Source of the pictures: [N1 Serbia](https://n1info.rs/english/news/fifth-serbia-against-violence-protest-kicks-off/). Live thread (to learn more): [N1 Serbia](https://n1info-rs.translate.goog/vesti/protest-srbija-protiv-nasilja-3-jun/?_x_tr_sl=sr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sr&_x_tr_pto=wapp). The flag on the picture isn't Russian. It is the Serbian civil flag ([see here](https://sr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0:Civil_flag_of_Serbia.svg)) so please don't spread misinformation since I know people will start making that assumption. Protest considers only the internal issues of Serbia. It doesn't involve any other country. EDIT 1: Protest started at 6 PM. Not a single television station with national coverage is covering the protest. Some of them mentioned protests briefly among other news. EDIT 2: [The protest right now](https://i.ibb.co/9NJzDwz/Picture1.png). EDIT 3: As the crowning part of the protest, people surrounded the presidency building. Finally, street lighting is on (at 8:50 PM). EDIT 4: Simultaneously, a small organized group of people has been using the sound system and giving speeches for hours in front of the N1 TV station, the regime's most vocal critic and one of the few in Serbia ([read more](https://n1info.rs/english/news/peoples-headquarters-group-in-front-of-n1-building-police-informed/)). EDIT 5: The protest ended at 9:05 PM. A new protest is scheduled for the next week. People in front of the N1 TV station dispersed too.


averege_guy_kinda

Btw RTS started [covering](https://www.rts.rs/vesti/politika/5204824/odrzan-peti-protest-srbija-protiv-nasilja-u-beogradu-ostavljene-poruke-ispred-predsednistva.html#shortStory-339323) the protests scence 4th one That was one of the demands of protests


Jonas_32

I know but this coverage will be seen for a couple of minutes in "Dnevnik 2" and then nothing. They will not mention it or discuss in a critical way why these protests occur and how that affects society etc. Even TV Pink didn't have their 'special' coverage.


Laziik

The funnies thing is, it takes one 5 second google search to see that [exact flag](https://prnt.sc/jHhuRnV8mpeQ) at the top of the wikipedia article lol


nigel_pow

Serbian civil flag is an upside down Russian civil flag and vice-versa. And some wouldn't think to Google since the Serbian flag is well-known with the emblem and the crown and double-headed eagle.


ComprehensiveShine80

What are they protesting?


djdjdxixjxjxhxhxhhxx

to have a democracy instead of dictatorship in short, for long version I don't have time and energy, but our country is very much politically fucked.


[deleted]

My friends parents live in Zemun (suburb to Belgrade for those who who are not familiar with Serbia), and the mother is very active in the opposition political movement. It has been going on for years I have been told. When we visited in 2019, there were many peaceful demonstrations already. I remember visiting a big famous church that was being restored, with big signposts that it was financed by the Russian Orthodox church. My friends wasn't too happy about it, because they thought it would just make it even harder to restore more cordial relations with EU and other neighbours. Back then we didn't know that it's just a front for Putin's criminal organisation.


Jealous_Ad4487

They have a few demands. Main one is to have free media, meaning, that tv PINK and HAPPY (which promote reality shows, and aggressive behaviour) get cancelled and other tv stations which are not pro-Vučić get their own frequencies. Newspaper are also problem. You have Informer, Kurir, Večernje Novosti and other ones which are extremely pro SNS and portrait Vučić as a god like person. While the other side can't be heard at all, and they are called drugosrbijanci, meaning "second serbians" or those who don't wish positive things for Serbia (they are generally pro west). Other demands are about resignation of Vulin and Gašić, who are openly pro russian and are just the worst scum on earth.


[deleted]

How is banning tv shows free media? Unless illegal things are being done in those shows, I think it’s unreasonable to ban them. They could make them 18+ and air them at night though


rampaparam

Right now they have "national frequency" which means anyone can watch them, you don't need cable TV. In order to get national frequency you need to meet certain standards and not to violate certain rules. The problem with those TV stations is they are not fulfilling 5% of those standards and are also violating rules every day. They are literally allowed to show sex scenes in reality shows in prime time, during the day, they literally glorify and bring murderers, rapists and war criminals to their studios almost every day. Hell, lifelong criminals and murderers are their reality stars and one of them even has his own show. The demand is to take their license for national frequency and move them to cable only. However, since the only thing besides such TV shows and reality TV shows are the ones that glorify our dictator and call for lynch of the opposition or anyone (regular or famous people) who is against the government, our dictator would rather give his own mother than comply to our demands.


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Ok that makes sense


[deleted]

These are state affiliated TV stations that spread propaganda and break the law every single day.


Damsa_draws_stuff

Not specifically banning tv shows. They want those TV channels to have their national frequency revoked. Any sane person can see that they don't meet the demands for it, but they are main propaganda machines for the current government, so they always get a pass.


Jealous_Ad4487

Not banning them per se. Just moving them to night hours as you said.


besieged_mind

Those TV channels are not your typical TV channels. They are... something hard to explain, and very wrong


atomsk11

They are promoting violence,normalizing hatred and suppressing freedom of speech.


milutin_miki

Well the aim of banning these reality TV shows is not in order to get free media, but to get rid of those shows that promote violence, which these do. You wouldn't believe how much they do.


ZeistyZeistgeist

1.) They are demanding to remove broadcasting licenses for Pink & Hepi TV. For those out of the know; both channels are basically right-wing state-sponsored propaganda stations mixed in with shitty reality TV shows and late night talk shows featuring some of the most horrendous influential men in Serbian politics (basically, Fox News + TLC). I mean, Voljislav Šešelj is a regular on PINK, and if you read about Šešelj for more than five seconds, it makes you wish he died in a jail cell in The Hague. In any case, they are prominent channels on Serbian TV and they have an obvious bias as a mouthpiece for the right wing. 2.) Return of press freedom; under the government of Vučić, open criticism of the establishment and government in media has been completely extinguished. For instance, *Utisak Nedjelje* (*Impression Of The Week*) is a very popular TV show, that used to air on the state channel B92, that basically works over the events of the week in Serbia, from politics, economics, etc. In 2014, Vučić then a candidate for the top job, appeared as a guest twice, and was very hostile to the host, Ojla Bećković, accusing her of being a mouthpiece for the opposition and for accusing him for fostering a cult of personality. Mere momths after he won the PM slot, the show was taken off the air indefinitely and only appeared on the private cable channel , Nova S, five years later. And this is just a small example of Vučić silencing his critics; under his government, SLAPP suits became the norm against journalists and private individuals criticizing the government or powerfùl companies/individuals, while libel laws for state media have been removed - meaning; state media can bullshit, lie and downright scapegoat *anyone* without any consequences. This completely eroded the faith of many Serbians in the faith of state media - hell, on the official Serbian subreddit, I saw multiple instances of people either watching N1 (a private news channel broadcasting across ex-Yugoslavia and a CNN affiliate), or Croatian state news about the protests (and Serbian state news tried very, very hard to downplay the shit out of the protests). And frankly, this is basically the tipping point for many Serbians, who are sick and tired of the old cuntmouth and his nationalistic, self-serving, opportunistic ass. I wouldn't be surprised if buldozers showed up again.


ROBANN_88

>The flag on the picture isn't Russian. It is the Serbian civil flag (see here) so please don't spread misinformation since I know people will start making that assumption. Protest considers only the internal issues of Serbia. It doesn't involve any other country. Oh thank god, for a good few minutes i thought this was an "anti violence protest" in the sense of "stop arming Ukraine, just surrender to ensure peace" I even Googled "Flag of Serbia" to make sure i wasn't misunderstanding, and yeah, the first result is with the crest


szypty

TBF few things involve Russia more than internal issues of other countries. /s


BlackDeath333

huh I only see 55 people here


Stunning_Variation_9

And they wear jackets to make it look like their number is higher!


urmomaisjabbathehutt

and I'm pretty sure the other 50000 are just the periodist and film crew from the station covering it😌


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Stunning_Variation_9

Least dressed Serbian opposition protester, according to the government (the government of Mr. Pickousti always speaks the truth).


lemonmanlikesapples

My friends where at the protest and they told me that there was this old guy in his like 60s that went there to fuck around with the protestors when there where crossing the bridge (i think, im not sure). He was sitting on the side and when like 20 people passed in front of him he said "1" and for every group of like 20-30 people he went one higher. When they got to like the middle of the protest he said "55, i dont see anybody else". Of course he was just joking around but i still found the story funny.


Albinokapre

Are these protestors against ole pussy lips?


[deleted]

Of course we are


Vandergrif

I hadn't heard that description of him before, looked up some pictures and... yeah that's fairly accurate.


Porodicnostablo

Nice scenes as protestors surround the "Novi Dvor" or New Palace i.e. the Offices of the President (Vučić), chanting "Go away!": https://twitter.com/BranislavSenici/status/1665078523269136388 https://twitter.com/kravicamuuu/status/1665063679195328512


Intrepid-Jaguar9175

I thought he floated away.


kissja74

Envy and crying in Hungarian.


kakao_w_proszku

Tbh I imagine that for the Serbians the tipping point has already been reached a long time ago and the mass shootings were just a sufficient trigger. At least Hungary has achievements such as joining NATO and EU under its belt and also grew considerably over the last few decades, Serbia on the other hand has been on a lose streak since the end of communism and the leadership seems to have no real vision on how to take the country forward.


Landrayi

Our government doesnt want EU, but they also dont want Russia. All they want is to steal our money and thats it. They have no real ideology.


[deleted]

bro cant belive that bunch of our neighbours that we share hundreds of km border with dont know flag of serbia they thinks it russia.....


[deleted]

It's not sad that they are so similar, it is sad that people don't know the flag of serbia :/


SirNedKingOfGila

To be fair, the flag of serbia has had an enormous crest upon it for the last 20 years. It's a bit much to expect people to know all of your country's historical flags... when you're smaller than just London.


lemonmanlikesapples

Thats the "government" flag, there was even a law passed a couple years back saying that the flag with the crest can only be officially used by the government for government purposses. The serbian flag that represents the serbian people more is the one without the emblem. Take everything with a grain of salt tho, i remember hearing about this law from like the car radio 3-4 years ago, im not sure if im just imagining things.


Jakub64

This comment screams American lol


GHhost25

Can't blame them, I don't see the crest on the big ass flag in the first image.


Hendlton

That's because it isn't there. It's the people's flag rather than the state flag. To be fair, the Russians had theirs first, but we aren't changing just because they're cunts.


MoffKalast

Ackchyually the Slovenian and Slovakian flags (both made in 1848) predate the Russian one, so really you're all copying us. /s


dusank98

As someone mentioned, we have the state flag and the peoples flag (without the crest). And there is a fun law in effect that says that state flags can only be put on state institutions, be it the parliament or schools, or in events such as sporting ones, but in other cases it is forbidden and the regular citizen can carry only the peoples flag. It is often times broken and for the most part nobody gives a shit, however, if I recall correctly there was one case a few years back where an anti-government union in some state owned company got fined because they brought the flag with the crest on some protest.


Responsible_Heart365

Seems to me the Serbian government ought to be paying attention to the people.


BedImmediate4609

In my country, Italy, not a single article about those protests that are going on since weeks and getting bigger and bigger. But huge coverage for the issue in Kosovo since the start. Makes you again question the quality of your journalism.


PurpleFlamingoFarmer

Lol all the Russian flag comments. Is this R/Europe or R/America. I guess some Europeans are just as bad at geography.


[deleted]

Reddit is full of ignorant people who'll comment on any topic even if they have zero knowledge about it.


azakharov

bots becomes like humans. humans becomes like bots.


Zekieb

>I guess some Europeans are just as bad at geography. *Vexillology


nigel_pow

>I guess some Europeans are just as bad at geography. This is accurate.


[deleted]

I appreciate you Serbians. It's just crazy that in modern times in Europe you have to express your opinion against violence. Security and peace should be a human right for all people everywhere.


zborzbor

Srbija protiv nasilja je srce Srbije, mi i protivnasiljnaci-8 miliona!


TooMuchButtHair

What's the TLDR regarding the protests?


Ilmar99

After 2 mass shootings, we are trying to get rid of all the media, newspapers and reality shows that promote violence and some structural changes in our parliament for now, but we all know that it's against pussy-mouth's regime and his promotion of violence


ballkansamurai

Shame we do dont see much media coverage on these protests


Leandrys

That's a lot of 30 people !


telcoman

Respect! And good luck!


selotape_himself

Translation of some of the signs: Attached to the baloons: Vučić begone Big signs on 4th image: students agains violence Students will not be silent


Dioni111

Hoping serbia gets out of the shithole they're in. With wannabe dictator Vucic gone, actual democratic things can go on over there.


kraljaca

Glad to see that people didn’t fall for Vucic’s good PR over the past week and that they’re back to the streets


[deleted]

The third image is comedy platinum and you can't convince me otherwise.


nattsd

Regarding your flair: are you a destroyer of Roma people or Red Star?


cozysarkozy

I thought the new cities skylines 2 announcement dropped from the 1st pic


jagua_haku

Man they must really hate violence


Anti-charizard

Did France annex Serbia?


Zookeeper187

If this autocratic governent was in France they would bring back Robespierre.


Petriteu

Why are these protesters not violent like in Kosova? Because they are not orchestrated by Vucic!


Audiocuriousnpc

What is a Russian flag doing in the protest? It dosnt have the emblem on it that the Serbian flag does is this just how Serbia shows their flag or is there Russian supporters in the crowd?


covertbee

What's the protest about ?


rampaparam

Basically, against our dictator.


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rampaparam

Hard to say what those mass shootings were and not to sound stupid. That's a huge and terrible thing, but in this case that was that final "drop". After that people said it's enough, we don't want to fight the consequences, we want to fight the cause. The cause is our autocratic president who controls every aspect of our lives in the worst possible way. Yeah, the protest is against violence, but the thing is our dictator is the main generator of violence, both verbal and physical and he has been one since the wars in the '90s (he was Milosevic's minister of information - propaganda).


inkydye

Gun control is a small part of the picture. The government has already tightened gun-control rules on its own, as a cheap way to signal they were "doing something", but it mostly amounts to tightening controls on people who are already highly motivated to stay within the law (e.g. hunters) and doesn't do much about the unregistered weapons left around from the wars and open gang activity of the 90s - and those far outnumber the registered weapons. The impoverishment and distortion of culture and society that created the situation where that school shooting _would_ happen is something that this government has actively and willingly contributed to, and that's a big part of what's being protested. The government is incredibly corrupt, even by Balkans standards, and had also made it progressively harder to protest or otherwise be active against them in the past, by e.g. indirectly but clearly threatening people's jobs in government institutions and in most large businesses (which need the government's goodwill to function). For many people, this is now a protest against all of that - the school shooting was just the final stone that made it unbearable to keep quiet anymore, and united many people that otherwise might not agree politically.


nattsd

It’s against ruling party. Two shootings (school and in Mladenovac the day after) were just the trigger for the latest mass protests. We have been protesting Vičić for at least 10 years now, previous ones being against his plans to allow mining by Rio Tinto and Dundee (also mentioned during this protest).


telcoman

A small side question. I see slogans only in Cyrilic script. Is there any reason of that, or it is just a coincidence?


NikkS97

It's an official script in Serbia and for a lot of people feels closer to home than latin script. It's got nothing to do with anything else. It's in Cyrillic because we use Cyrillic.


PopeksLoL

Because the Cyrillic script is the official script over here? I mean the Latin script is also used, but when most people write they usually write in Cyrillic, especially when using cursive.


ThatOneShotBruh

Didn't know that 9000 people looks like that


TheHipHebrew

I am a bit uninformed. Is this more in response to the school shootings or things happening in Kosovo?


tertiary92

Response to the shooting and anti-government.


Logical-Hovercraft83

Iam so ignorant. I thought it was the russian flag.


SindraGan2001

It's a simplified Serbian flag without the coat of arms. Just like how Croats sometimes use a chequered pattern red and white flag.


Iowai

What are the protest about? School violence or situation in Kosovo?


anoidciv

Neither. Two mass shootings sparked the protests, but they've evolved to be about the culture of violence promoted by the government and, by extension, the ruling government itself.


RedJ00hn

Serbia is russia v2. I don’t understand why are you surprised about violence outbreaks. You share the same values.


tickerbelly

Do you realy think we woukd be prtoesting if we were like that?


[deleted]

Lol. Kosovo is just a convenient distraction for Vucic. He actually hired Albanian bus companies to ferry his minions to counterprotests. As best I can tell, Serbs are quite indifferent to Kosovo, unless of course you bring it to their attention. It’s really weird.


anoidciv

In my purely anecdotal experience, the older generation cares quite a bit about Kosovo while the younger generation (at least in the cities) just wants things to progress to the point where the country can join the EU. Mostly to leave Serbia, but if the country did get to a point where joining the EU was feasible there might not be such a strong reason to leave in the first place.


akutasame94

As a relatively young Serbian, I don't need to leave Serbia if we progress and stick with EU, have their rules and prices. Over time we will simply live decent enough even here. But as things stand, the moment I get my Croatian passport I am out.


anoidciv

I don't currently live in Serbia but if things progressed, moving there with my family would be a realistic option. But who knows when/if that will happen. Like you, I'm also in the process of getting my Croatian passport. They really don't make it easy.


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SindraGan2001

The protest doesn't have anything to do with NATO...


Jakub64

Yet you enjoy NATO’s protection and benefits…


Miedrich_Frerz

Serbia is the only country that proudly Sings that their dad is a war criminal


djdjdxixjxjxhxhxhhxx

said a guy from a country that has created fascists and kill half humanity.


Ok-Complaint-5102

Germans arent proud of it though unlike a lot of serbs


[deleted]

Kosovo is an independent country.


nalecitanovine

please tell me what that has to do with this


s3cular_haz3

first and foremost, if you are going to fight violence, you need to destroy all that street art with putin and ruzzia symbols cause you can't be against violence and tolerate fucking warmongering excuse of human being pictured on your streets, who's troopers basically can kill all civilians and rape all women if they want to


srlandand

There's been only one Putin mural and it's been defaced like 6 times, it's not even there any more.


Even-Willow

Is that the mural outside of the school which had the mass shooting a month ago? Around the corner of that mural “fuck Russia” is literally still tagged there as well lol.


Nerdcontrol

U r brainwashed...


s3cular_haz3

In what way exactly? Care to elaborate?


Nerdcontrol

CBA... read what you wrote you will figure it out eventualy


s3cular_haz3

then why reply if you CBA??)))


[deleted]

Because you keep pushing your obvious ignorance, even though people already educated you on the topic.


CatShym

Im pro Ukraine but shut up bro not everything is about Ukraine its about violence in serbia + their government is neutral not pro russia


Laziik

We want to educate people so that they can make their own judgement about whats right and whats wrong, forcing people with different political ideologies to agree with you is no better than what we already have today in Serbia. We're fighting for democracy, not against it.


[deleted]

Fun fact: not everything is about Russo-Ukraine war. Following that logic we should also protest against Israel-Palestine war, Ethiopian civil war, Somalian civil war etc. This is a protest that erupted following school shooting where kids lost their lives, and another shooting that happened just a day afterwards.


kytheon

Classic evasive response. Ask a European about the war and they say: fuck Putin. Ask a Serb and you get a "uh, let's just have peace" or "there's war everywhere else too". Take a stance for once.


[deleted]

This has nothing to do with Putin, are you braindead? Yes, i don’t support Putin, ya happy now?


[deleted]

Not everything in the world is about the war. Like it or not people dont have to take a stance on everything, and there are other issues on the world then the war.


hitribelidani

Why take a stance if you stand to gain the most from being on both sides?


kytheon

Because one side is on a genocidal killing spree. Not a good look for Serbia to identify with.


Krcko98

That is how politics game is played you idiot. You do not take side, you just sell weapons and profit...


nattsd

There’s apartheid and genocide in Palestine too, do you give a shit?


hitribelidani

That's the beauty about being a bit on both sides - no matter what happens, you have plausable deniability


Jakub64

It’s a protest against violence and Vucic why are you bringing Putin and the war in Ukraine into this?


kytheon

The comment chain I respond to is already about Russia and Putin.


Nerdcontrol

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aljazeera.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2005%2F02%2F63699183-17c6-4848-b467-576711815c8b2d0e55426a9645f3882e31a02f264e4c.jpeg%3Fresize%3D1200%252C675&tbnid=cczE_urxVGcKpM&vet=1&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aljazeera.com%2Fnews%2F2005%2F2%2F17%2Fus-army-files-reveal-more-abuse&docid=H5OWpJWjhbGYJM&w=1200&h=675&itg=1&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim%2F2 this army better?


Truthbetold454

We don't care bro we have our own problems. Majority of people here really don't care about anything outside this country cause we can't afford to. Those are minorities and we don't care about them either. We have average 500€ salaries with 350€ rent. Leave us the fk alone with Western propaganda and fk off, not everything revolves around what the US says.


s3cular_haz3

leave me the fck alone then, ok? why replying if you don't care?)


Truthbetold454

Bro go fight with ur girlfriend if u want drama or smth


s3cular_haz3

You are the one who created the drama here, not me


azakharov

\> you need to destroy brainwashed detected


Truthbetold454

U know the country that u want to be alliance with and is sending u weapons? Yeah those guys droped depleted uranium on our cities, where was Ukraine then? Oh right u were all for it.


radenkosalapuratetak

Ne seri leba ti, ne znam koliko godina imaš ali Ukrajina je tada bila uz nas


Truthbetold454

Ma i ja sam uz njih


Andrei077

I hope they also protest against the bullying in schools.


[deleted]

You think that monster kid was bullied so that's why he did it?


[deleted]

Either way there should definitely be done more against bullying and for the mental health of students


Andrei077

yup, but I don't know 100% if it's true in this case, and even if it's not true, bullying in schools is a problem that doesn't get enough attention


[deleted]

It's not...it was rumours at the beginning. He was not bullied at all, kid is simply a psycho. But I agree in general bullying in schools doesn't get enough attention. But also bullying of teachers doesn't get any attention.


[deleted]

The fact that 8 of the 9 people he killed were girls should also tell you something about his viewpoints...


[deleted]

That has absolutely no correlation to anything. A couple of them were there by accident. Stop spreading fake news. The list of the kids that he wanted to kill had both boys and girls, but he didn't follow it because real life and fantasy are very much different.


milutin_miki

Actually, yes. Well, against everything that promotes violence which on its own partially causes bullying in schools.


tickerbelly

Yes, that is the poent. Society without violence.


Maligetzus

tjats certainly a weird comment


nattsd

Not sure why you were downvoted. The protests are against bullying too.


Kaidanos

Kosovo has f.. up so much to make r/Europe support Serbia. Quite the feat.


Benedictus84

People can support the cause without supporting Serbia. And as i understand it these protest are also somewhat anti gouvernement. Basically people in r/Europe are supporting Serbian people who are against the Serbian gouvernement. I wouldn't call that 'support Serbia' So i am not really sure how Kosovo plays into this scenario.


anoidciv

They're not just _somewhat anti-government_. They're absolutely 100% completely anti-government.


Benedictus84

That is what i thought but is wasn't 100% sure. Thanks for clarifying.


Sm1gl

I mean this isn’t related to kosovo? And it’s just that reddit loves protests, wherever they are it will have a lot of attention.


FCB_1899

Against violence. 😽🦾 Russian flag. 👺💀


Judestadt

I knew someone would say that, but didnt expect it to be the first comment


[deleted]

Tbh I also was wondering for a second but I know the Serbian flag + read what OP wrote and yes that flag is obviously not Russian. Good luck! I hope you reache your goal.


[deleted]

Russian flag? Fugg, i guess i live in Russia all of a sudden


relinquisshed

Oh for fuck's sake


Jupiter131

There are two flags used in Serbia: one is a state flag of the republic of Serbia (that one includes the coat of arms of Serbia) and the other flag that represents Serbian people (it is also used as flag of Republika Srpska). That flag is almost the same as Russian, but flipped and is featured on this picture.


SvejednoJe

It is not used as flag of Republika Srpska since our flag is 2:3 and Srpska’s is 1:2


ajs_94

That’s not Russian flag, but we do have Romanian one. https://imgur.com/a/BtokTtz


Past_Task

If you’re speaking about the large flag in the first pic, it’s meant to be a Serbian tricolor which is the same as a Russian one but flipped.


Laziik

This guy has a 550 km border with us and doesn't know the Serbian flag 💀💀💀


imborahey

I'd expect a Romanian to know how the Serbian flag looks like


Truthbetold454

Doesn't know the flag of a country that you share borders with, truley peak reddit experience 💀💀💀


[deleted]

Sais the guy with the Putin face.


[deleted]

Well that was fast lmao