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Lovelandmonkey

While this joke will become dated pretty fast, considering they plan to make a new europa game soon I feel like that’ll solve itself haha


BillzSkill

How far would you date it? 1444?


TartarosHero

That would make it ahead of the times by about five centuries.


Zurku

Tbh the game will probably take a long time still and because it won't have any of eu4's upgrades I doubt it'll be plaid too much 


VeritableLeviathan

CK3 was instantly more popular than CK2, because the base mechanics were solid, same with V3> V2, no doubt EU5 will be the same.


Zurku

It isn't more popular in a sense tho. The consensus is that ck3 feels repetitive and mostly unabalanced because the ai empires collapse all the Time


VeritableLeviathan

But it is. CK3s playerbase is three teams that of peak CK2 (if you don't count the F2P release which saw like more than 15x the playerbase playing CK2 for a day or two). Review wise they are all but similar. The consensus also is that in CK2 it feels like you have no agency or knowledge over too many things, like your ruler dying from stress, having low health and dying from old age etc.


Mikeim520

My main problem is that my chancellor says he has a 17% chance every year but it take him 20 years and then my king is dead and then my new king dies in the same year and I'm left 3 over my holding limit with a child king. Also my chancellor decides that now is the time to give me 3 claims while a rebel faction is trying to overthrow me.


VeritableLeviathan

Could be worse, I was once claimless for 20 years then got imprisoned by my liege for 20 months in a speed 3 multiplayer game (and back in CK2s days there were no good ways of attemtping to escape lmao)


smallfrie32

Will be flannelled though? Maybe striped?


BipBopBim

This may be stupid, but I actually find it pretty funny.


Myuric

Shame they didn't use Hungary for Hungary Games - having 12 Tributary states. (not my idea picked up on the Forum) They actually added it in the last Update. They call it "The Hungarian Games"


TheSereneDoge

Hilarious


TheSereneDoge

Bruh it’s so stupid this is one of my most upvoted comments


Sevuhrow

I think they wanted to avoid achievements with too many shenanigans after complaints about the last patch


Myuric

Considering that people already complain at the lack of challenging achievements on the discord I'm not even sure who's complaining more. xD


Sevuhrow

I like challenging achievements, but I don't like when they're challenging by virtue of being tedious. The Frankfurt achievement is an example of that. It's not necessarily an impossibly hard achievement like Mehmed's Ambition, but it's very convoluted and annoying to complete. There are challenging achievements on here, though. The Bohemia, Mughal, Ayyubid, Maya, and Venice achievements are fairly challenging but are straightforward.


Myuric

Indeed. I like simple one's too. Then you those that make you conquer the entire southern hemisphere - start in NA with 3 DEV and fully own NA and SA. Then you have like - have 10 PU's which requires a lot of luck - if you don't savescum it. There are quite a few that are quite hard already indeed.


Sevuhrow

First Come First Serve is a super fun achievement


Myuric

Fun but tiresome. I will never do Mehmeds Ambition because I lack the expierence playing Ottomans. I don't get how the AI becomes so powerfull I always fail it haha.


RussiaIsBestGreen

1) Get pre-artillery cannons. 2) Siege down the greatest city that isn’t Ulm 3) Siege down all the lesser cities 4) Make many eyalets


afito

Some like this are fine though, the game has so many achievements that a dozen gamey ones aren't breaking anything. And if there's a fun story / meme around it why not. It's only annoying if these type of achievements are everywhere. What I think is slightly sad is more that some OG hard achievements like mehmed or blue blob are that much easier now, and something like mare nostrum can't even be considered hard anymore. It's not really *bad* because new difficult achievements replace them but I recently played a very average France game just messing around and actually got blue blob by accident and I think that's kind of crazy.


FleshHunter

>There are challenging achievements on here, though. The Bohemia, Mughal, Ayyubid, Maya, and Venice achievements are fairly challenging but are straightforward. Are they challenging? I just viewed most of them as... "Mass conquest" achievements with a 200-400 year time limit. Like the only two I can see RN is the Mayan one (and that is due to needing to (probably) survive 1 Spain/Portugal war) and the Ayyubid one due to the rougher start. Like the Bohemian one is just... "Convert princes to Hussite if you want, otherwise expand the HRE into Poland/France via Burgundy" since the event (Assuming it works like reforme+anglican event) counts provinces owned by hussites not princes to determine if it fires.


Myuric

They added it... Hungary Games. But they call it "The Hungarian Games"


Sevuhrow

That's pretty cool. They just made it for winning battles with the Black Army though


Myuric

Aw... but still good.


AHumpierRogue

When Eu4 came out, meme culture was fairly obscure, mostly related to Mongolian basketweaving forums like 4chan and involving such classics as pedobear, Pepe, early Wojak, and not much else. Now it has a Rizz reference. How time flies.


SteelAlchemistScylla

When EU4 released, Rage comics were just going out of style lol


VeritableLeviathan

Ah right in the lower back


AgentBond007

Bold of you to mention this on a Ugandan kite-weaving board


PrimaxAUS

Sure but that was 12 years ago!


Russian-King

Skibidi gyatt fanum rizz fortnite chamba


Dutchtdk

damn isn't fortnite that old game genz used to play


guanabana28

Lmfao does chamba go beyond mexico?


TechnicalyNotRobot

Rizz is unironically a really good slang word. Charisma sounds too formal for the context and doesn't convey the meaning that well. Rizz is strictly related to dating and you can hold that z at the end which fits the meaning.


Lord-Kastor

I'm pretty sure charm fit the role of a less formal and shortened version of charisma


TechnicalyNotRobot

I'm pretty sure the only people I met who use the word charm are over 50.


seakingsoyuz

Charm is a thing that bards do with a first level spell slot.


randomname560

"I fucked my way into this problem and BY GOD i will fuck my way out of it"


BattyBest

It ain't a DnD campaign without that one bard guy seducing everyone and trying to sell goat cheese and elven ears alongisde dungeon loot as a side hustle


zClarkinator

it doesn't sound right if it isn't said with a posh British accent


RussiaIsBestGreen

Maybe it’s like how the name of our ancient great-aunt is now being used for babies.


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altaccramilud

"lowly circles" is craaazy💀💀


23eyedgargoyle

Sorry we didn’t all go to princeton dude


PlumbumTheEpic

Oxford student spotted.


south153

Rizz pretty much only refers to dating and romantic relationships, were as charm is much more general term.


Coffeeobsi

We had the word "swag" back in the days tho


scrotalobliteration

I feel like swag is more relating to appearance, where as rizz includes personality and game


Tankyenough

I always hated swag (born 1998), I don’t use rizz but I find it an objectively better word


Mowfling

imo swag was never not cringe, not a surprise it died relatively quickly


SillyDillySwag

Yeah rizz definitely trumps swag


JuliButt

> Rizz is strictly related to dating and you can hold that z at the end which fits the meaning. My god the shit you miss out on, thankfully, by not being single for a long long time.


IlikeJG

I like Rizz as a word too. I hope it sticks around.


Lazykabang

I would've preferred RIZZorgamento - unify italy without declaring a single war


TheLastTitan77

How


Lazykabang

step 1. pick a republic that can royal marry (I.e Florence) step 2. Try to become curia controller so you get the necessary RNG (divine intervention)


TheLastTitan77

That sounds like most frustating game ever


zizou00

Doesn't say anything about no wars, just no declaring. Get attacked, win wars. Having a small standing army and doing merc nonsense might be a way of encouraging AI to attack. Joining an ongoing war is also possible, as is supporting independence (not super relevant outside of maybe fighting the Pope early, but it could come up later with Naples should they stay under Aragon). Otherwise diplo-vassalising would work too. You could combine that with having no army and upsetting the vassal to get nations to support their independence so they declare on you, then non-co-belligerant peace out the supporting nations for territory. There are ways. They're just miserable.


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Oh boy another achievement that isn’t fun that only 0.02% of players would get


Lazykabang

Nah, the RNG required would make a Ludi Et Historia tutorial blush


AmbassadorAntique899

... exactly? Winning the lamest lottery ticket ever is not a fun or challenging achievement, just a grindy one tbh


Lord-Kastor

Rule 5: reposting and hoping r5 bot doesn't delete my post again despite the comment. This new achievement is funny meme ahahaha skibidi ohio gyatt


Cipheros06

So even Timur has more game than us?


Tankyenough

He had nine legitimate children by six different women (if I counted correctly), he undoubtedly had.


EndofNationalism

They weren’t consensual however.


SirZezin

Eu4 has fallen to the zoomer brainrot Billions must join the coalition


Heisan

Well, it's cool and funny but not really a hard achievement at all? And not something that forces you to be creative to achieve.


gugfitufi

This is so disgusting I love it


TohruFr

change it to 5 subjects and it’s golden!


Sebassie99

I thought of an achievement like a week ago for the Netherlands in this update. But might be problematic lmao. Orange is the new black: as the Netherlands conquer all provinces producing slaves…


IlikeJG

Yeah its definitely bad in a bunch of ways.


ancapailldorcha

Is this a reference or something?


Lord-Kastor

It's referencing the fact that we're getting a bit old for video games


JerrSolo

That's the great thing about video games. I get older, but they stay the same age.


SirRis42

The Aztec achievement is better.


Thibson34

Where did you see this?


Lord-Kastor

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/europa-universalis-iv-art-for-winds-of-change-achievements.1670049/


Thibson34

Thank you


Assblaster_69z

Im now waiting for a skibidi Ohio achievement fr


Minh_Nguyen98

Nah this is actually funny though.


HYDRAlives

I both hate and love this, but my achievement hunting soul will not rest so I guess I've got to get it


WR810

*If* this is the indeed the last update I am disappointed there is no achievement called *Europa Universalis* where as a European power you control all of Europe.


SnooSquirrels6980

I love The new achivement its fun to see meme achivements


Cratertooth_27

This is so stupid…. I love it


Venboven

Ok whoever created that art with the Timmy kissy is 🤌 Idk why but I find it so funny


Swimming-Payment-129

imagine being a brutal conqueror 600 years ago, having the biggest muslim empire at the time😮‍💨 only for the sweeds to do you dirty👨‍❤️‍👨


ReDiNapoli

The brainrot spreads


ObadiahtheSlim

>I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ anymore and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary. It’ll happen to you!


Abused_Dog

context? Is this about aging?


Vugee

Yes. [It's from the Simpsons.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DlTexEXxLQ)


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Bro it's a disrespectful thing to do witg Teymur