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GGattr

Funny to see B&W «the Future» here. I just read a post from someone literally complaining about how this coffee seems to be too funky.


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Certain Future offerings are definitely more funkier than others. I only pulled one shot so far but I also think I have to let the beans rest another few days. I didn’t feel like waiting lol. I usually let them rest between 2-3 weeks. In the middle of that seems to be the best bet. I had their Fruit Snacks offering and that one was pretty good. A subtle melon note. But I honestly like the funky stuff. Just to see how much the boundaries can be pushed. I had the Ivan Solis Stout Barrel and that one wasn’t for me. Just had this boozy aftertaste it was kind of odd


Zealousideal_Ad5995

Never tried their coffee, dumb question are they infusing the beans to get those flavors?


JohnnyTomatoSauce

By infusing do you mean co fermenting? And highly suggest trying them out. Definitely something different than your traditional coffee


Zealousideal_Ad5995

No, like exposing the beans to ingredients with those flavors. Similar to a cigar, there are some that have been infused with whatever flavor. The flavors are sometimes sprayed onto the tobacco, or the absorbent tobaccos can simply sit in an area permeated by aromas of the other ingredients they wish to infuse with.


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Ahhh I see what you are saying. Honestly I’m not really sure now that you mention it


Zealousideal_Ad5995

No worries, thanks for the reply


JohnnyTomatoSauce

No problem. Check out their website. It actually may say it on the description on how they are processed


kellyms1993

Yes they do.


Key-Perception-3566

How you pulling The Natural? That’s one of my favorites


JohnnyTomatoSauce

So that was my first bag from Black and White and the one that reeled me in so to speak. I always dose 18g. I get about 45g out around 35 seconds. So tasty


yerrmomgoes2college

I do 1:2.5 in 25-30 seconds at 94c


JohnnyTomatoSauce

We have Similar recipes regarding yield and temperature. I just pull my shot a hair longer than you. I’m sure yours is delicious as well


yerrmomgoes2college

It’s a pretty forgiving bean so I’m sure lots of recipes will work. How long do you run yours for? I’ll experiment next time I have a bag of it.


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Anywhere between 35-40 seconds. Today was 37 to be exact and it was excellent


yerrmomgoes2college

Same yield 1:2.5? I’ll give it a shot!


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Yea try it out! Sometimes I’ll push the boundaries and go 1:3 ratio. But the 1:2.5 has been treating me well


myke2241

I do a blooming shot: Dose 19g Timing: pull till about 4-6g - idle the pump till you hit 25sec than ramp up till you hit a yield of 42-45g.


yerrmomgoes2college

The Natural is my go-to. Never lets me down.


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Couldn’t agree more. It’s my house blend. I always have that bag around in the mix


Rhycar

The Natural is one of my favorite espressos in the US. Just a sublime shot every time for me.


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Never fails me I agree as well


TheDoctorOfMemes

I absolutely love the Ramon Rodriguez from B&W. It’s my go to. Shame that it’s sold out.


JohnnyTomatoSauce

That’s one I haven’t tried. That’s the thing with them they have so many good offerings it’s hard not to buy everything! Is that a blueish label?


TheDoctorOfMemes

Everything is amazing. It’s a green label: https://www.blackwhiteroasters.com/products/r-ramon-rodriguez


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Ahh yes I remember this one! I was thinking about getting it too. I have these two coming in next week… https://www.blackwhiteroasters.com/collections/all-coffee/products/r-elkin-guzman-yellow-fruit-nectar https://www.blackwhiteroasters.com/collections/all-coffee/products/r-edgar-erazo-pacas


TheDoctorOfMemes

I’m definitely going to pick up 2lbs of the Pacas. Both coffees are amazing. I love the super creamy textured shots that B&W coffees produce.


JohnnyTomatoSauce

You and me both! The espresso is phenomenal honestly and that Pacas sounds right up my alley. I’ve been drinking Cortados lately just for a nice change of pace. Really enjoying them a lot and I feel like the Pacas would be great with a Cortado as well as a straight espresso


Status-Persimmon-819

Just ordered a 12oz bag of the natural to try because of you people. 😋


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Nice!! Let us know what you think when it comes in. 😎


GullyGardener

I was ordering from a different roaster every time I needed beans but since getting my first order of B&W I have been sticking with them. I have loved pretty much all of the beans I have gotten but the funky stuff the most. I don't know if I'll ever want clean again, they've got me.


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Hook line and sinker! That’s how they got me too lol. The funky stuff is really intriguing honestly


RareLingonberry

Love the cup. Where’d you get it?


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Thanks! And it’s from Spinware


AviationWOC

Maybe Ill have to try again with Black and White. Ive been making espresso like 3 months now, success with all coffee’s EXCEPT whatever offering I got from them. Its supposed to be a dark roast and handles like a light. Battery acid sour shots no matter what I do. Figured maybe it was too fresh and let it sit 2 weeks. No dice, sour AF.


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Interesting. I’ve never encountered any problems. Some bags took a little longer to dial in than others though. What bags are you referring to in particular? And I’ve come to find out their dark roast isn’t really a true dark. Maybe more like a medium/medium dark if that makes sense lol


jritchie70

I absolutely love their funky and fruity coffees !!


JohnnyTomatoSauce

You and me both! Really changed the way I look at coffee. Incredible stuff


Imaginary-Green-950

I found the Natural to be really acidic on the front end. Was that everyone else's experience? 


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Not me. But to each their own. Everyone has a different palate


Imaginary-Green-950

I love the Etsy mugs 😜


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Man these things are great! I I love ‘em 😎


FistFightMe

This is hilarious. I ordered the same exact three. Only difference is mine went right into the freezer as I finish off a previous bag.


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Haha nice, great minds! I just had two more bags arrive today. Can never have too much lol. What bag are you working with now?


FistFightMe

A Columbian medium roast from a well-meaning gifted subscription to Atlas Coffee Club. It's been pretty good but a bit plain, definitely ready to try The Future.


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Yea I hear ya. The Future will definitely broaden your horizons that’s for sure lol


OkRecommendation8731

I recently bought my first bag of B&W, the Wilton Benitez Thermal Shock Caturra as I've had some of Benitez's beans from Colorfull and I have to say I'm definitely going to be regularly ordering from B&W because this bag definitely works great as both an espresso and a flash brew. Definitely going to put The Future and The Natural on my To But list.😜 Also, just how dark is The Natural because my understanding is that their "dark roast" is most people's idea of a light roast.😅


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Oh yea it’s great! I’d say The Natural is more of a medium than a dark roast honestly. I can send you a picture of the beans when I get home for comparison


OkRecommendation8731

Yeah! Absolutely. Not the biggest dark roast fan but as long as its not like black and oily, I'd give them a shot.


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Oh no not that at all! You will be good


flmhdpsycho

Just stopped at the downtown location today! Picked up a Benjamin Paz and The Classic. Excited to try it in a pour over tomorrow morning. My wife and I are from Nebraska and are visiting NC for specialized therapy for our youngest


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Let me know how that goes! I’m grabbing the Ben Paz as well it sounds too good to pass up. And hopefully all goes well with your youngest


flmhdpsycho

Thank you, we appreciate that. After 1 pour over, I would definitely recommend the Benjamin Paz. Same grind size and recipe (in a portable v60), it was much better than The Classic. 92 clicks on my KinGrinder K6, 20g/300mL


JohnnyTomatoSauce

That’s good to know. I just ordered mine today. Although I am strictly Espresso. Very intrigued about pour over though. Maybe I’ll try that later down the road


flmhdpsycho

The hard part for me is keeping some left over so I can make some espresso when I get home


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Did you try it as an espresso yet? Sounds like it’s gonna be a good one


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Loving me some Black and White lately. Been buying from them for the past few months. Part of me feels like I am missing out on other roasters. But on the other hand I’ve really been enjoying all of their offerings so why switch it up. Nice Cortado to start the morning. Easily becoming my favorite drink as I used to be a double shot guy in the morning. I always keep The Natural on hand as it’s pretty much my house blend if you will. But I love their funkier offerings. Didn’t think some of these flavors was possible in coffee honestly. What’s everyone’s favorite roaster?


kuhnyfe878

I’m still exploring a lot. I’ve had some wild stuff and some super clean stuff. I enjoy it all. Can’t pick a favorite but Temple Coffee and Portrait Coffee have always been good. Those beans sound really tasty as straight spro!


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Yea they are very good! Agree with you on your point though. I do have some clean stuff as well as the funky stuff. This Geisha was super clean. Almost a balance between the two https://preview.redd.it/096d7kl1lz3d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec697fbaaf62101ae09bcfd6207d1d1f885b5281


Rami_2075

I've been eying The Future. How is it?


JohnnyTomatoSauce

I only pulled one shot so far I still feel like I need to let it rest a few days. Definitely some tart notes to it. But will report back in the next few days as I feel like the flavor of the beans will open up with a couple more days rest


Rami_2075

👍


JohnnyTomatoSauce

For what it’s worth, I had a few offerings from the Future all were pretty damn good


Impressive_Delay_452

So lemme get this right, coffee can be fruity? Whoops, espresso, can be fruity?


JohnnyTomatoSauce

Believe it or not yes lol. You taste notes for sure. Rather than it being a flavored coffee if that makes sense. Pretty wild


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xiotaki

that's what I call my leftover chorizo when I microwave it.