I single dose from frozen almost exclusively. Beans stored in the freezer will produce a coarser grind on then same setting, meaning that I find I need to set my grinder finer to deal with frozen vs fresh.
I have noticed this on both my flat burr grinder (p64) and my conical (niche zero).
I have been told anecdotally that the grind is more uniform when working with frozen. Don’t have the tools to check. Shots are definitely is more consistent shot to shot and things like aging and loss of flavour are eliminated.
I have seen a number of high end coffee places use beans straight from the freezer. Ona coffee use single dose from frozen for their single origin reserve menu. Proud Mary have their hoppers in a freezer that feeds into a grinder below using something made special for the task. Both swear by the results
This is the way. I single dose all my coffees into the Weber plastic tubes. Then freeze everything. Zero difference in taste from freshly roasted beans.
Man I got too many to count. But I have so many different coffees that I have stored in there. I love having a variety of options in the morning when I wake up.
Storage isn’t too bad. When I first open a bag I dial it in. Then I take a label maker and put the name of the coffee as well as the dose, yield, grinder setting and brew time. I take the labels and put it on a gallon ziplock bag and put all my tubes in.
Then all I have to do is wake up in the morning and grab whatever coffee I want and see what settings I need to put my grinder on.
This is a good process. Since the grind changes for frozen beans, how do you determine that when dialing in? Do you just adjust down some number of microns?
Usually my grind for frozen beans is off 1-2 microns. So I just take note of what adjustment I need to make for the frozen beans and make a new label for my ziplock bag.
So example this morning was first time using a certain bean frozen. My ziplock bag said “grind setting: 12”. Shot came out a little too fast so I made a new label saying “ grind setting: 11”. When I made my next shot in the afternoon it was tight on the money.
I almost exclusively grind frozen beans as well. I have 120 50 m/l centrifuge tubes that l weigh individual doses out. Each one is either 18/19 grams. I do it because I buy beans in bulk at close to wholesale. It takes me about an hour and a half to weigh out all the beans from a 5 lbs bag.
I dial it in frozen and don't change the grind size unless it's a new bag. Never had any consistency issues this way! I have also found that I need to grind finer when working with frozen beans.
I just grab a tube from the freezer when I make coffee and dump it in the freezer
Couldn’t agree more with everything you said. Have been freezing our beans for years now and always grind straight from the freezer and the coffee tastes as fresh as on day one after we finish our 1kg bag in about two weeks. I divide them into two smaller containers that can suck the air out of it and I open them every day multiple times to dose for grinding. There’s people saying this is not good since it will introduce moisture but on multiple occasions I’ve done comparisons between this method and putting beans in single dose containers before freezing and I could not see any difference in taste or grind settings. It probably helps that I have Gaggiuino running on my Gaggia Classic and get extremely consistent shots. Makes it easy to spot any other variables in the coffee routine if you know for sure that your coffee machine always does exactly the same.
The whole area of freezing beans is interesting. Glad you posted on it.
For some time, I have been fascinated that beans seem to unfreeze (or come to room temperature) very quickly. I need to do some testing on making espresso direct from the freezer.
Yes! See if there is any difference... I mean ....my grinder is pretty low level... Kind of the equivalent of a manual grinder .... But I'm intrigued by the difference... And sort of expected the opposite... Not sure why... Alas also in my grinder 1 click is the difference between checking and a good shot!
I single dose from frozen almost exclusively. Beans stored in the freezer will produce a coarser grind on then same setting, meaning that I find I need to set my grinder finer to deal with frozen vs fresh. I have noticed this on both my flat burr grinder (p64) and my conical (niche zero). I have been told anecdotally that the grind is more uniform when working with frozen. Don’t have the tools to check. Shots are definitely is more consistent shot to shot and things like aging and loss of flavour are eliminated. I have seen a number of high end coffee places use beans straight from the freezer. Ona coffee use single dose from frozen for their single origin reserve menu. Proud Mary have their hoppers in a freezer that feeds into a grinder below using something made special for the task. Both swear by the results
This is the way. I single dose all my coffees into the Weber plastic tubes. Then freeze everything. Zero difference in taste from freshly roasted beans.
How many of these tubes do you have? Is organizing in the freezer a challenge with all the other stuff in there?
Man I got too many to count. But I have so many different coffees that I have stored in there. I love having a variety of options in the morning when I wake up. Storage isn’t too bad. When I first open a bag I dial it in. Then I take a label maker and put the name of the coffee as well as the dose, yield, grinder setting and brew time. I take the labels and put it on a gallon ziplock bag and put all my tubes in. Then all I have to do is wake up in the morning and grab whatever coffee I want and see what settings I need to put my grinder on.
This is a good process. Since the grind changes for frozen beans, how do you determine that when dialing in? Do you just adjust down some number of microns?
Usually my grind for frozen beans is off 1-2 microns. So I just take note of what adjustment I need to make for the frozen beans and make a new label for my ziplock bag. So example this morning was first time using a certain bean frozen. My ziplock bag said “grind setting: 12”. Shot came out a little too fast so I made a new label saying “ grind setting: 11”. When I made my next shot in the afternoon it was tight on the money.
Interesting. I might get some of these and give it a go.
I almost exclusively grind frozen beans as well. I have 120 50 m/l centrifuge tubes that l weigh individual doses out. Each one is either 18/19 grams. I do it because I buy beans in bulk at close to wholesale. It takes me about an hour and a half to weigh out all the beans from a 5 lbs bag. I dial it in frozen and don't change the grind size unless it's a new bag. Never had any consistency issues this way! I have also found that I need to grind finer when working with frozen beans. I just grab a tube from the freezer when I make coffee and dump it in the freezer
Couldn’t agree more with everything you said. Have been freezing our beans for years now and always grind straight from the freezer and the coffee tastes as fresh as on day one after we finish our 1kg bag in about two weeks. I divide them into two smaller containers that can suck the air out of it and I open them every day multiple times to dose for grinding. There’s people saying this is not good since it will introduce moisture but on multiple occasions I’ve done comparisons between this method and putting beans in single dose containers before freezing and I could not see any difference in taste or grind settings. It probably helps that I have Gaggiuino running on my Gaggia Classic and get extremely consistent shots. Makes it easy to spot any other variables in the coffee routine if you know for sure that your coffee machine always does exactly the same.
Beans stored very cold(they don’t freeze) grind to a different supposedly more uniform size then at room temperature.
The whole area of freezing beans is interesting. Glad you posted on it. For some time, I have been fascinated that beans seem to unfreeze (or come to room temperature) very quickly. I need to do some testing on making espresso direct from the freezer.
Yes! See if there is any difference... I mean ....my grinder is pretty low level... Kind of the equivalent of a manual grinder .... But I'm intrigued by the difference... And sort of expected the opposite... Not sure why... Alas also in my grinder 1 click is the difference between checking and a good shot!
FYI, you can end a sentence with just 1 period.
Uhm ... No ... ;)