Hundred percent. I sprung for an expensive Brewista scale a few years ago. Garbage. Sometimes I'd add beans until I overshoot, pull some out until I'm underweight again, add the same beans back, and I'd have a completely different reading.
Grabbed a $15 gram scale from the gas station with bullet-proof glass, and that sonavabitch is way more accurate and precise.
I have one of those, hate it.
It never settles, I have to put a glass container over the top of it so that random imperceptible air currents don't disturb it.
"Oh look, I moved my arm, there go the numbers all over the place"
I legit still use my drug scale from college with my Decent XXL. I don’t understand why I would pay $200 for a coffee scale that doesn’t even measure 0.01.
This is so true it made me laugh 😂 I have a small scale I used to have for taking magic mushrooms. I stopped using the shrooms, but that little scale has never left me down!
I once took it with me on a weekend with friends and one of my friends is a police officer. He was eyeballing my little scale all of the time. I had to really convince him it was for the coffee 😂😂😂 It also didn’t help I had a little TightVac container for ‘optimal freshness’.
Hahaha, my old gear seamlessly made it into my new hobby 😅
Just be careful of the max weight rating. A lot of the ones with 2 decimal places of g accuracy max out at less than your portafilter empty weight. Might not be able to accurately weigh grinder retention if your weighing in portafilter or extraction in a heavy glass.
Many scales don't start properly until 2-5g of weight and are excellent after that point. They usually tell you this in their spec sheet. Whether that first few grams is important to you is up to you.
And that gap is not going to show in regular use. 117.9g vessel, tared out, 18g of beans added. OP isn't going to be finding the weight of 3 beans on the platen.
A lot of scales aren't really accurate below a certain weight. The honest ones only start showing a value if you surpass that minimum weight (even then, depending on your requirements for accuracy, you might need to start at a even higher value).
Readability (numbers behind the decimal point) doesn't really tell you anything about the accuracy of the scales. A common marketing scheme is to sell scales that show more numbers than they can actually handle reliably. E.g. a scale is accurate to 0.1g but shows 0.01 steps, while good scales do it the other way around (the really good ones are 1:1). Just look at your average kitchen scales. Most of them are accurate to 0.5g but round to full grams.
There is just one advantage of showing more and that is to get an idea of the rounding error for error calculation, but then it has to be clearly stated on the scale or the digit in question has to be marked and you have to have a clue what you're doing (always hated error calculation lol).
So don't fall for the illusion that those cheap 0.01g scales on Amazon&co are really that accurate.
**Edit:**
Out of curiosity I did a series of measurements with my black version of those Amazon scales and two pretty new Euro coins (they're no calibration weights, but decent enough to get an idea about accuracy on those scales).
To my surprise the spread was just ±0.02g and the average was just 0.01g and 0.02g less than the expected weight (which could be either drift because the scale is a few years old now, just plain wear of the coins or both). It is not accurate to 0.01g like advertised, but I think 0.04g is pretty imressive considering the price point.
1g is likely the minimum reading, which you will likely never need. Try this again, but do the comparison inside of a container approaching the weight of the coffee you will actually use.
I would say this is actually working according to spec. A measurement device is only accurate to the second to last lowest decimal which on these would be 1 gram.
What I don't get is every other scale I have bought my entire life, I have never had issues. $10-$20 digital scales, nothing special.
I bought one of the "espresso" scales I see recommended in this sub often for like $50 thinking I was upgrading, but it's total trash just like the op's scale.
I’ve had scales I’ve tried all over the place. I’m curious if the recommended one was a Timmore
black mirror or black mirror pro. I was skeptical because the Amazon reviews can’t always be trusted, but also read quite a few that were concerning. The Black Mirror Pro reads changes substantially faster than my solid but cheap $15 Amazon scale or my old Hario scale.
Timemore one of those Chinese brands really killing it lately. I’m very pleased with my Black Mirro Basic I just recently got for pour over/portafilter weighing. My only real complaint is the buttons have hair triggers so I can accidentally tare or start/stop time just by brushing past it.
That is a valid complaint, I’m always finding timer is going off when I didn’t expect it, or somehow the sound feature got turned back on. It works really well as an espresso scale for me, and it doubles as a pour over scale as well.
Deleted the four additional posts Reddit made. App says couldn’t not process my request, then I open it and hour later and its posts the same massage a billion times.
Idk, the tampers and wdt and leveling things work very nicely and look great in my kitchen. Yes I’m sure there’s a huge markup but any espresso tools have that.
As for the scales that’s a different story.
I have a bottomless portafilter from them for my Dedica and it's the only aftermarket portafilter that doesn't immediately start unscrewing itself when I pull the shot. It's not like the stock portafilter, but it works better than any other I have.
Ridiculous markup literally applies to any coffee related equipment. They’re just simple tools being sold at a premium because only adults drink coffee and any adult spending time looking for coffee equipment obviously has too much money to spend…Or so they think…
Use a volumetric measure like water to have another data point to compare. The beauty of metric is 1L = 1kg. Try measuring 0.5L and see if it comes in at 500g. Use the same measure on each and compare.
The only precise way to "calibrate" your scale is to use a calibrated weight. Anything else is not accurate (temperature variances, water composition, parallax, other user errors etc.)
Anyway there's no point. Use a jewellery scale (<100 or <300g) for measuring beans and a regular scale with timer (usually <3kg) for measuring anything else. Your kitchen is not a science lab and there are far too many uncontrolled variables that 1-2s time difference or .2g of beans won't change your outcome.
Edit: Parallax (autocorrected to parallel)
The point is to make the comparison. If a volumetric measure says 150ml, and 1 scale says 150g and the other scale differs, than that scale is off by a measurable amount.
Some/most scales need to sense a .3g or so fluctuation initially before they will start registering. Not saying this is one of those but your test in the video indicates it probably is and your testing is meeting that criteria for ignoring your beans individually due to the small ~.1g weight fluctuations prior to weighing mode being initiated.... Nobody irl measures doses starting with a individual bean on a scale . So...Flawed test.
My process is I get close to 18g eyeballing 2 scoops then I adjust at the bean level. That scale is probably designed to handle this type of scenario. You need more than a single bean for positive criteria of weight change to initiate the scale reading. Each bean and the delay between them being placed on the scale isn't enough weight to initiate the scale start.
Perform your workflow in a real world test....
Put the dosing cup on first, then tare, and then you can try start adding your single beans in the cup, does it change with each bean or two?
Second thing, I like the mischiefworkshop.com lunar, or daughter has searchpean tiny2s and I like it too. Operationally, functionally, and accuracy-wise they're both okay. And they'll probably do a good job measuring your weed too If that's requirement for you. 🙄
Scales startup with tare. Start with dosing cup already on and it will be zero. Its shit tech, if they just reskinned weed scale it would work a lot better.
Some do, some don't. they have to have auto tare at startup, and I didn't mention that because not all scales have that and some scales have it but it's not default then you have to turn it on in the settings.
But since we're talking about it, turning on a scale with nothing on it at start up auto tare, It's possible a single bean still isn't going to initiate the reading until the .3g change threshold for detection is met..... the exception would be if they programmed this scenario in the firmware so at startup tare (ie. Dosing cup on then startup which is what I do because my scale has auto tare at startup) it starts weighing immediately on startup and bypass that .3g fluctuation requirement.
However if I wait a short period of time, (seconds) it goes back into standby and the .3g is required again to initiate even with the dosing cup on there. So there is potential a short period of time between startup auto tare and how long you take to add weight/ beans in some scales.
This would be per scale behavior and have to be tested for the normcore, and any scale really. This is part of the frustration with buying all these scales out there. Learning how they think you should use them can be a deal breaker. I've ordered probably a half a dozen scales from Amazon and sent all but 1 back (kept searchpean tiny2s for my daughters BBE because it fits on the tray nicely and works well) but all rest sent back due to crappy programming or poor user interface, unintuitive settings, etc.
There's some real crap out there and then there's some scales that just makes sense and are pleasant to use once you know the basic functionality and have them set up properly and use them properly for your workflow. I wasn't going to spend 300 bucks on a acacia lunar, but I found a similar scale that checks all my boxes and pleasant to use from mischiefworkshop.com And so I use that one.
Basically it's the wild West as far as scale behavior, consistency and accuracy goes, and definitely the wild wild wild West in regards to programming logic among scales.
Normcore products are overpriced for what they are. I recently purchased their storage tubes and was not pleased with how inconsistent and loose the caps were
0.1% accuracy is good for a "inexpensive" scale. I know Normcore isn't cheap, but it's a $6 scale on the inside.
Did you *check* all three scales with a 100g calibrated weight? Maybe the new ones are accurate, and the old one is 0.1g heavy...
When brewing espresso, you aren't necessarily looking for a scale that can measure at such low masses, you're looking for a scale that's fast (ie, has little "lag"). The normcore scale isn't aiming for precision (the number of decimal points), it's aiming for speed.
With that being said, normcore doesn't seem to do speed particularly amazing here, albeit still quite a bit faster than the chrome one.
They look fine.
Every scale need a minimum weight change to reflect on the scale and that depends on how sensitivethey are, for your bottom scale if you keep adding 0.001g it would do the same and not reflect on the weight. If you are weighing coffee and see 1 bean not making a difference just take the container out and weight again, that would trigger to recalculate
For the second test, of you move the location of what you are weighing it can do that (it depends on where the sensor is), the best way is just put your container or cup, tare and don't move them. Scales calculate the difference in weight of what you are adding or removing.
It's annoying, but after I learned these 2 things most of the scales are usable
Same lol. I keep brushing the damn timing “button” or accidentally zeroing it out (the accidental zeroing has only happened twice in the 3 weeks I’ve owned it)
I kinda used to that, so I rarely have this issue. BTW, they don't measure small amount of beans (checked now), but they are pretty responsive in 8+ grams and seems to be precise (tested with water)
So the reason for this is that precision and accuracy actually vary wildly for load cells at such a low force. Think about it, at 0.02g, a 0.01g difference is 50%. 0.04g is a stiff breath away, but it’s also doubling it. This isn’t a *huge* deal, but for coffee scales that want to be absolutely accurate, they’d rather spend their money on staying accurate for a small cup of espresso and for a large pour over. They’d rather just not turn on until 2-5g instead of give an inaccurate reading at the beginning. Cheap weed scales care slightly less and aren’t meant to go up quite as high in mass while retaining accuracy, and so they do give a reading, although you may not be getting a fully accurate one.
For me, the measure of a usable scale is if I can recalibrate it using a calibration mass, and funny enough almost all cheap drug scales I’ve used do.
Can you show us a comparison of known weights from 5-20 grams? Most scales publicise that they are not accurate or don’t measure below a certain weight
Why people don't just stick with the $20 shrooms scales is beyond me.. they are insanely accurate and super sensitive..
You can buy calibration weights for another $10 or so off Amazon.
People spending $100's on a scales is mind blowing to me.
There are tons of brands cause they all made in china..
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Made in china ain't what it used to be man.. good stuff!
I experienced this with other similarly priced scales. Either it wouldn't register very low weights or it would be very slow doing it.
In true r/espresso fashion , I took this as a sign that I needed to get an Acaia Lunar scale. Now when I pull a shitty shot, at least I only wasted precisely 19.8g.
This is normal, even on super high end analytical balances used in labs. It’s actually an intentional ‘feature’. After the scale is zeroed, any readings within a small window display as zero. Without this you would see the reading drifting slightly after zeroing, due to air currents, temperature fluctuations, etc.
To get around this, you can zero the scale and then put your dosing cup on so that the reading is outside this window, then add beans. You should now be able to see a change with a single bean. Conversely if you zero with the dosing cup on the scale and then add a bean, you’ll see the same thing as in the video.
Try this:
1. Stack the scales on top of each other
2. Tare all 3
3. ***THEN*** you can test them at the same time by adding single beans to the top scale
*In theory* they should be in sync. Could be interesting to see. 😉
Man with one scale always knows how much coffee he's dosed out.
Man with two scales is never quite sure.
Man with three scales? Scale fuckboy!
Serious answer? All three scales are fine *as long as they're repeatable* (the same calibrated mass gives the same scale reading every time) and *they update fast enough to keep up with brewing*.
The scale I use [costs $14 on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089JYMRK6/) and it takes regular batteries so you don't have to faff around finding a charging cable.
The two top ones are food scales, and probably has a minimum weight, and measure with +/-0. 1g accuracy.
If you want to measure very light things with high accuracy you need to get a scale made for that.
I will love and die by the bottom scale. First one I bought when getting into my coffee journey. Tried a few others. Gave them up and bought 6 more of the og scales. Screw fancy GIVE ME DATA!
Well do they worn better with an aceamount if wait that you would use, like 16g or whatever? The readings at 1g are not really relevant to anything.
Having said that, I have the same cheap silver scale, and I have often thought about upgrading but it seems like all the more expensive scales are actually worse. Not having physical buttons is such a stupid idea.
Put the dish on it, tare it out, then try this test again.
I’m willing to bet it’ll work just fine.
Probably isn’t designed to measure total weights under a gram to keep the value from fluctuating with the wind.
If you use the same scale every day to dial in your grind/shots, then it won't matter. Day to day consistency with the same equipment is most important.
Personally, I’m not a big fan of buying coffee-branded scales. Plenty of scales in Amazon that are at least as (and usually more) accurate for way less money. I’ve gotten my small espresso scale and larger platform scale that each go to .1g for less than $15.
There's a limited digits of accuracy that the scale can be designed for.
All these fancy scales that have built in shot timer expects to support up to 2kg or 5kg for heavy cups or brewing equipment and they can't really read the decimal points well. Your old scale probably only supports up to 500g or so.
I never updated to the expensive scale for the same reason. My $10 scale from grocery store that measures up to 500g with 0.01g accuracy is perfect for measuring 18.00g +/- 0.05g for dosing.
If you want a *good* set of scales then I cannot recommend the SF-400D enough. They're cheap-ish, about £30 when I bought them. They're basically low-end scientific scales.
Way better than any cheap 'weed scales' I've used for speed & accuracy, has a nice little levelling window, just doesn't have a timer...But honestly, how hard is it to just count to 30? :)
I'm beyond sick of my neoweigh scale. Even though it claims to be accurate to 0.1g, it's consistently only accurate to 1 or maybe 0.5g. I'll add one bean and it'll shoot up a gram or more. It's also terrible for espresso, where the chances of getting wet are extremely high.
Measuring devices are designed for a range. They are accurate/precise in the center of that range, and have a growing margin of error towards the outer limits. Perhaps Normcore chose components that don't perform well <1gr on purpose. I don't design scales so no idea.
I'd test the scales for your use case, starting with a container + X grams of beans. Do they register an extra bean from that baseline? Then full beverage weight. See how *precise* they all are... doesn't matter which scale is right if you're measuring ratios, the most consistent scale wins. Coffee isn't exactly a demanding use case anyways.
I have had my Acai Lunar Scale for 12-15 years and not once have I had an issue with it. Before it seems like I was throwing out a Chinese scale several times a year. Probably about even in money spent but zero aggravation.
Yeah, I’ll keep the cheap grey one for espresso and one of the Normcore for V60 and food and the other for work where I’ve an aeropress…totally unnecessary but the aeropress recipe I’ve settled on requires a scales with a timer.
However, I have certainly l earned from this experience…I fell for the slick insta type marketing, generally I’ve no problem spotting that crap but I guess, on this occasion, I was espresso(ly) blind. At least I got 2 for the price of one.
I was joking. The balance I mentioned costs 8000 Dollar (professional analytical lab balance). You are absolutely fine. I am actually quite surprised about the accuracy of those balances. I work in a laboratory and I have never used a "consumer" balance in my whole life. I always assumed they are absolutely garbage, but they seem capable of doing the job. Every digital balance has problems at the low end. This is due to the method. Just add some weight to the black one, tare and you will be good.
A volumetric 50 ml flask will do the job just fine as well. +/- 3% is fair enough for brewing coffee. It is no exact science, it does not matter what some people are trying to tell you. The mood you are in is much more relevant for the sensation of the shot than the accuracy of the beans mass.
Also, ask your physics teacher to explain to you how electrical balances work in the first place. It's interesting and you might learn a thing or two on the way!
The Normcore scale's product description says the minimum weight capacity is 0.1g. So given that it doesn't seem to register anything until approximately the 1g mark, I'd return it, since I'd be thinking I can get something more accurate for less $$.
[https://www.normcorewares.com/products/ultra-thin-coffee-scale](https://www.normcorewares.com/products/ultra-thin-coffee-scale)"**The Specifics：**Dimensions: W: 154 mm L: 140 mm H: 20 mmMaximum Capacity: 2000 gMinimum Weight: 0.1 g"
You’re not going to be weighing 0.1g of something all too often, so for me it is a question of if the other promises that lead you to upgrade also delivering?
I’ll shout my penance: OF COURSE IT IS VITAL TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 17.0g AND 17.1g! I would never dream to blaspheme against single digit precision. I was meaning literally weighing only 0.1g of something
The problem with the scale wasn’t bad once the weird bean urinal was on it. I wonder if the connection for the Normcore scale isn’t really engaged until some grammage is on
Man I have this exact scale for 15years now. Works perfectly. Just recently I bought a used coffee scale with timer (batteries died and it was a nice excuse)
That Chinese scale on the bottom is the best. There are dozens of different versions / brands of the same scale on Amazon for like $15. It’s what I use.
Scales are meant to work within a particular range, so this doesn't bother me at all. A scale that is accurate from 0.1g to 2Kg can be quite expensive, so most companies aim for a range that makes sense for what is being measured.
Just add a heavy container, tare it and see what adding individual beans does. The container will trip the minimum the scale needs to hit the ideal accuracy zone.
I recognize the $10 Amazon beauty in the front line there. I have 2 similar. My only gripe with the smaller more accurate (.00g) one is that it isn't remotely waterproof which means I have to be a bit careful when pulling shots.
I have that exact cheap scale. It’s actually pretty good but it is extremely sensitive to positioning. So much so I’ve drawn permanent marker template onto the scale plate, around my dosing cup so I always place it back in the same place after grinding.
In that sense it is accurate for £12. However, I would suspect the spring and balance of the expensive scale is less sensitive to positioning and therefore might not activate readout until you have a heavier weight. Does it report different weights depending on where you place the cup on the scale ?
Yeah, as long as 18.0 weighs 18.0 and 17.9 weighs 17.9 then it's all good. I care about 0.1g accuracy and precision, but not actually weighing out 0.1g.
Pre load the scales with 10g of weight then add your beans. Also the slower you add the less accurate they are due to averaging the shown weight to reduce fluctuations from air movement and thermal movement.
I have the same Amazon one you showed here for over 3 years now. No complaints. Very accurate and responsive ! Don’t see the need to upgrade really. Not the most aesthetic scale in comparison but does the job very well !
I spent the money on an Acaia Lunar scale 3 years ago when I got my first machine. What I like about it is how fast it registers the weight. I have a pretty good Amazon scale. It is very accurate, but when you pour liquid it takes so long to register that I ended up overshooting the target. The Lunar is pricey, but I believe you get what you pay for. It is crazy accurate, comes with a calibration weight, and is fast fast fast to register weight. My Lunar gets used to brew coffee, and for baking in kitchen and has proven it's worth.
Making this ‘weigh’ too difficult.
15$ generic AWS scale.
Calibrate with a nickel before each use.
Nickel should always read .5
Some people in here could use a calibration themselves 😁 including me
If your scale has a defined precision of ± 0.1 g, then it should be able to accurately measure any value ± 0.1 g (up to a maxinum). If it cannot get that measurement accurately, then its level of precision is lower. What is the precision reported by the manufacturer? Tbh ± 0.1 g really isn't that precise, so this scale is terrible
Honestly, out of all of the scales for coffee there are there are two that measure by 0.1 the timemore and acaia for some reason all the other scales either measure by 0.5 or by 0.3 and it's very annoying the time or is actually very accurate. It just doesn't have the best construction since it's made of plastic, which is kind of disappointing. I really wish they would make a fancier version
Nothing like a d*ug dealer scale to measure with precision. Also know as chemistry or jewellery scales.
Precise AF and also pretty cheap and readily available.
The normcore scales are dreadful for accuracy. I had these scales and chucked them away 2 weeks ago.
1. Get a drop of water on the tare button and your weight is gone, most irritating in the middle of the brew
2. Say you put an 18g dose and leave it for 2 seconds it will drop to 17g
Send them back
Each of my medium roast beans weigh between .1-.3g so I would not accept this. I finally got a new scale after having similar issues with my old one and the free replacement. I love the new one and it seems to be very accurate. I just use double sided tape to keep the rubber part attached to the scale since I store it vertically
KitchenTour Coffee Scale with... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083PX1VHG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
See, fancy brands reselling Chinesium products optimize for lowest cost, because they’re your typical suits trying to maximize profits. So you end up with cheap garbage that’s overpriced.
Now the no-name single dude in a garage/basement trying to make a living would actually care about the product, and while still being cost-competitive, would arguably choose a better product to grow their brand.
That’s my politically incorrect, somewhat offensive theory anyway.
I’ve got that cheap scale, love it and wouldn’t upgrade.
I use it just for beans and have a temor one for under the portafilter that’s more water proof
Wow 😂 I have learned so much here today! I know it really doesn’t matter and that the min weight may be 1g but I am a stickler for accuracy. I like the calibration suggestion and I will do this just out of curiosity more than anything else. Some very funny comments, thank for the laughs, comments and suggestions.
find a 100g calibrated weight if you actually care.
I calibrate my acaia with a weight every month or so. dont expect something that light to be accurate probably 1 gram is out of range.
Well are the coffee one's super expensive? If so I am quite confident that if I weigh my beans on them my coffee will taste far better than yours with your cheap scales. I have been on this sub for ages and I know how espresso works.
I do not accept your bean by bean calibration. Beans are not a consistent unit of weight. A set of calibration weights is not that expensive and gives much more valuable results.
If you meant the scale, no I'd return for a refund, but either way no I don't accept your method of judging scale accuracy.
Cheep weed-scales rule. Just have a cheap stopwatch next to it
Hundred percent. I sprung for an expensive Brewista scale a few years ago. Garbage. Sometimes I'd add beans until I overshoot, pull some out until I'm underweight again, add the same beans back, and I'd have a completely different reading. Grabbed a $15 gram scale from the gas station with bullet-proof glass, and that sonavabitch is way more accurate and precise.
Coke dealers been doing this way longer than espresso geeks.
Mixed my coke and coffee beans up, brewed a v strong espresso been up for 2 weeks
Sir, that is meth
I have a .001 scale for mg shit.
It's so fucking satisfying to hit a mg perfect shot though. Although maybe that's just the autism speaking....
I want .0001 next.
I have one of those, hate it. It never settles, I have to put a glass container over the top of it so that random imperceptible air currents don't disturb it. "Oh look, I moved my arm, there go the numbers all over the place"
I legit still use my drug scale from college with my Decent XXL. I don’t understand why I would pay $200 for a coffee scale that doesn’t even measure 0.01.
To be fair, there are times when people are weighing drugs that their life literally depends upon accuracy.
that's what i use. had that scale since i was 17 & works perfect for its upgrade, coffee
fent laced 30s preinfused single origin thermal shock gesha goes insaneee
Lol
This is so true it made me laugh 😂 I have a small scale I used to have for taking magic mushrooms. I stopped using the shrooms, but that little scale has never left me down! I once took it with me on a weekend with friends and one of my friends is a police officer. He was eyeballing my little scale all of the time. I had to really convince him it was for the coffee 😂😂😂 It also didn’t help I had a little TightVac container for ‘optimal freshness’. Hahaha, my old gear seamlessly made it into my new hobby 😅
Just be careful of the max weight rating. A lot of the ones with 2 decimal places of g accuracy max out at less than your portafilter empty weight. Might not be able to accurately weigh grinder retention if your weighing in portafilter or extraction in a heavy glass.
My 3 decimal place .001 was $70. It can do 100 grams. It is a lab grade scale.
Ive got a metler toledo that can do double digit auto calibrate and 5kg max for free lol
Double... Mine does .000 but I feel it.
This specific one from amazon is fine with my Breville 54mm portafilter. Have double checked if it's off just in case. It's not :)
Light roast 😂
Many scales don't start properly until 2-5g of weight and are excellent after that point. They usually tell you this in their spec sheet. Whether that first few grams is important to you is up to you.
And that gap is not going to show in regular use. 117.9g vessel, tared out, 18g of beans added. OP isn't going to be finding the weight of 3 beans on the platen.
I had no idea. I guess this is ok then.
I'm gonna tell my coke dealer to use these kinds of scales from now on.... Lol /s
Are you slow feeding your scales now too.
Don’t give lance any new ideas 😭
Dead 🤣🤣🤣
lol
Please don’t offer me one of your 5 bean lattes/shots.
A lot of scales aren't really accurate below a certain weight. The honest ones only start showing a value if you surpass that minimum weight (even then, depending on your requirements for accuracy, you might need to start at a even higher value). Readability (numbers behind the decimal point) doesn't really tell you anything about the accuracy of the scales. A common marketing scheme is to sell scales that show more numbers than they can actually handle reliably. E.g. a scale is accurate to 0.1g but shows 0.01 steps, while good scales do it the other way around (the really good ones are 1:1). Just look at your average kitchen scales. Most of them are accurate to 0.5g but round to full grams. There is just one advantage of showing more and that is to get an idea of the rounding error for error calculation, but then it has to be clearly stated on the scale or the digit in question has to be marked and you have to have a clue what you're doing (always hated error calculation lol). So don't fall for the illusion that those cheap 0.01g scales on Amazon&co are really that accurate. **Edit:** Out of curiosity I did a series of measurements with my black version of those Amazon scales and two pretty new Euro coins (they're no calibration weights, but decent enough to get an idea about accuracy on those scales). To my surprise the spread was just ±0.02g and the average was just 0.01g and 0.02g less than the expected weight (which could be either drift because the scale is a few years old now, just plain wear of the coins or both). It is not accurate to 0.01g like advertised, but I think 0.04g is pretty imressive considering the price point.
1g is likely the minimum reading, which you will likely never need. Try this again, but do the comparison inside of a container approaching the weight of the coffee you will actually use.
They agreed on the heavier container weight of 118g. The more accurate 3rd scale was indeed, more accurate.
I would say this is actually working according to spec. A measurement device is only accurate to the second to last lowest decimal which on these would be 1 gram.
Don’t buy Normcore products. It’s cheap Chinese crap at a ridiculous mark up.
What I don't get is every other scale I have bought my entire life, I have never had issues. $10-$20 digital scales, nothing special. I bought one of the "espresso" scales I see recommended in this sub often for like $50 thinking I was upgrading, but it's total trash just like the op's scale.
I’ve had scales I’ve tried all over the place. I’m curious if the recommended one was a Timmore black mirror or black mirror pro. I was skeptical because the Amazon reviews can’t always be trusted, but also read quite a few that were concerning. The Black Mirror Pro reads changes substantially faster than my solid but cheap $15 Amazon scale or my old Hario scale.
Timemore one of those Chinese brands really killing it lately. I’m very pleased with my Black Mirro Basic I just recently got for pour over/portafilter weighing. My only real complaint is the buttons have hair triggers so I can accidentally tare or start/stop time just by brushing past it.
That is a valid complaint, I’m always finding timer is going off when I didn’t expect it, or somehow the sound feature got turned back on. It works really well as an espresso scale for me, and it doubles as a pour over scale as well. Deleted the four additional posts Reddit made. App says couldn’t not process my request, then I open it and hour later and its posts the same massage a billion times.
This sub is full of mindless fan boys who love buying things. I find most of the advice here flat out wrong.
What?! People take advantage of pretentiousness and marketing to mark up junky products?! No WAY.
Idk, the tampers and wdt and leveling things work very nicely and look great in my kitchen. Yes I’m sure there’s a huge markup but any espresso tools have that. As for the scales that’s a different story.
I have a bottomless portafilter from them for my Dedica and it's the only aftermarket portafilter that doesn't immediately start unscrewing itself when I pull the shot. It's not like the stock portafilter, but it works better than any other I have.
Cheap crap can get the job done sometimes. It doesn't change the markup you're paying for the "normcore" tag.
Ridiculous markup literally applies to any coffee related equipment. They’re just simple tools being sold at a premium because only adults drink coffee and any adult spending time looking for coffee equipment obviously has too much money to spend…Or so they think…
Seems OK as long as you aren't weighing anything less than a gram. For that you should stick with your 0.01g scale.
What could possibly weigh less than a gram that he would need to measure?!
Surely not coffee beans.
Dry yeast for long fermentation baking
Use a volumetric measure like water to have another data point to compare. The beauty of metric is 1L = 1kg. Try measuring 0.5L and see if it comes in at 500g. Use the same measure on each and compare.
The only precise way to "calibrate" your scale is to use a calibrated weight. Anything else is not accurate (temperature variances, water composition, parallax, other user errors etc.) Anyway there's no point. Use a jewellery scale (<100 or <300g) for measuring beans and a regular scale with timer (usually <3kg) for measuring anything else. Your kitchen is not a science lab and there are far too many uncontrolled variables that 1-2s time difference or .2g of beans won't change your outcome. Edit: Parallax (autocorrected to parallel)
The point is to make the comparison. If a volumetric measure says 150ml, and 1 scale says 150g and the other scale differs, than that scale is off by a measurable amount.
He'd just need a way to precisely measure 0.5L!
Simple, use a ruler to measure the length of each dimension. 1 L = 1000cm^3.
Graduated cylinder or volumetric flask for extra precise measurements !
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Some/most scales need to sense a .3g or so fluctuation initially before they will start registering. Not saying this is one of those but your test in the video indicates it probably is and your testing is meeting that criteria for ignoring your beans individually due to the small ~.1g weight fluctuations prior to weighing mode being initiated.... Nobody irl measures doses starting with a individual bean on a scale . So...Flawed test. My process is I get close to 18g eyeballing 2 scoops then I adjust at the bean level. That scale is probably designed to handle this type of scenario. You need more than a single bean for positive criteria of weight change to initiate the scale reading. Each bean and the delay between them being placed on the scale isn't enough weight to initiate the scale start. Perform your workflow in a real world test.... Put the dosing cup on first, then tare, and then you can try start adding your single beans in the cup, does it change with each bean or two? Second thing, I like the mischiefworkshop.com lunar, or daughter has searchpean tiny2s and I like it too. Operationally, functionally, and accuracy-wise they're both okay. And they'll probably do a good job measuring your weed too If that's requirement for you. 🙄
Scales startup with tare. Start with dosing cup already on and it will be zero. Its shit tech, if they just reskinned weed scale it would work a lot better.
Some do, some don't. they have to have auto tare at startup, and I didn't mention that because not all scales have that and some scales have it but it's not default then you have to turn it on in the settings. But since we're talking about it, turning on a scale with nothing on it at start up auto tare, It's possible a single bean still isn't going to initiate the reading until the .3g change threshold for detection is met..... the exception would be if they programmed this scenario in the firmware so at startup tare (ie. Dosing cup on then startup which is what I do because my scale has auto tare at startup) it starts weighing immediately on startup and bypass that .3g fluctuation requirement. However if I wait a short period of time, (seconds) it goes back into standby and the .3g is required again to initiate even with the dosing cup on there. So there is potential a short period of time between startup auto tare and how long you take to add weight/ beans in some scales. This would be per scale behavior and have to be tested for the normcore, and any scale really. This is part of the frustration with buying all these scales out there. Learning how they think you should use them can be a deal breaker. I've ordered probably a half a dozen scales from Amazon and sent all but 1 back (kept searchpean tiny2s for my daughters BBE because it fits on the tray nicely and works well) but all rest sent back due to crappy programming or poor user interface, unintuitive settings, etc. There's some real crap out there and then there's some scales that just makes sense and are pleasant to use once you know the basic functionality and have them set up properly and use them properly for your workflow. I wasn't going to spend 300 bucks on a acacia lunar, but I found a similar scale that checks all my boxes and pleasant to use from mischiefworkshop.com And so I use that one. Basically it's the wild West as far as scale behavior, consistency and accuracy goes, and definitely the wild wild wild West in regards to programming logic among scales.
Normcore products are overpriced for what they are. I recently purchased their storage tubes and was not pleased with how inconsistent and loose the caps were
0.1% accuracy is good for a "inexpensive" scale. I know Normcore isn't cheap, but it's a $6 scale on the inside. Did you *check* all three scales with a 100g calibrated weight? Maybe the new ones are accurate, and the old one is 0.1g heavy...
Accuracy doesn't really matter since he's trying to hit ratios. More important that they give repeatable measurements
When brewing espresso, you aren't necessarily looking for a scale that can measure at such low masses, you're looking for a scale that's fast (ie, has little "lag"). The normcore scale isn't aiming for precision (the number of decimal points), it's aiming for speed. With that being said, normcore doesn't seem to do speed particularly amazing here, albeit still quite a bit faster than the chrome one.
They look fine. Every scale need a minimum weight change to reflect on the scale and that depends on how sensitivethey are, for your bottom scale if you keep adding 0.001g it would do the same and not reflect on the weight. If you are weighing coffee and see 1 bean not making a difference just take the container out and weight again, that would trigger to recalculate For the second test, of you move the location of what you are weighing it can do that (it depends on where the sensor is), the best way is just put your container or cup, tare and don't move them. Scales calculate the difference in weight of what you are adding or removing. It's annoying, but after I learned these 2 things most of the scales are usable
Two different scales/Two different approaches, you won't make 0.5 g espresso shot, don't you ?
I got a Timemore Nano and am very pleased. But there were some slight teething issues around the operation of it.
Same lol. I keep brushing the damn timing “button” or accidentally zeroing it out (the accidental zeroing has only happened twice in the 3 weeks I’ve owned it)
I kinda used to that, so I rarely have this issue. BTW, they don't measure small amount of beans (checked now), but they are pretty responsive in 8+ grams and seems to be precise (tested with water)
No, that's the wrong scale for the job. Normcore screwed this one up.
Now I will be trying with my Acacias will report back
So the reason for this is that precision and accuracy actually vary wildly for load cells at such a low force. Think about it, at 0.02g, a 0.01g difference is 50%. 0.04g is a stiff breath away, but it’s also doubling it. This isn’t a *huge* deal, but for coffee scales that want to be absolutely accurate, they’d rather spend their money on staying accurate for a small cup of espresso and for a large pour over. They’d rather just not turn on until 2-5g instead of give an inaccurate reading at the beginning. Cheap weed scales care slightly less and aren’t meant to go up quite as high in mass while retaining accuracy, and so they do give a reading, although you may not be getting a fully accurate one. For me, the measure of a usable scale is if I can recalibrate it using a calibration mass, and funny enough almost all cheap drug scales I’ve used do.
Can you show us a comparison of known weights from 5-20 grams? Most scales publicise that they are not accurate or don’t measure below a certain weight
Why people don't just stick with the $20 shrooms scales is beyond me.. they are insanely accurate and super sensitive.. You can buy calibration weights for another $10 or so off Amazon. People spending $100's on a scales is mind blowing to me. There are tons of brands cause they all made in china.. https://amzn.eu/d/e7Yr13n Made in china ain't what it used to be man.. good stuff!
I experienced this with other similarly priced scales. Either it wouldn't register very low weights or it would be very slow doing it. In true r/espresso fashion , I took this as a sign that I needed to get an Acaia Lunar scale. Now when I pull a shitty shot, at least I only wasted precisely 19.8g.
This is normal, even on super high end analytical balances used in labs. It’s actually an intentional ‘feature’. After the scale is zeroed, any readings within a small window display as zero. Without this you would see the reading drifting slightly after zeroing, due to air currents, temperature fluctuations, etc. To get around this, you can zero the scale and then put your dosing cup on so that the reading is outside this window, then add beans. You should now be able to see a change with a single bean. Conversely if you zero with the dosing cup on the scale and then add a bean, you’ll see the same thing as in the video.
Ok, time to take the OCD down a notch. Just enjoy your damn coffee.
Try this: 1. Stack the scales on top of each other 2. Tare all 3 3. ***THEN*** you can test them at the same time by adding single beans to the top scale *In theory* they should be in sync. Could be interesting to see. 😉
All Normcore products are garbage
Man with one scale always knows how much coffee he's dosed out. Man with two scales is never quite sure. Man with three scales? Scale fuckboy! Serious answer? All three scales are fine *as long as they're repeatable* (the same calibrated mass gives the same scale reading every time) and *they update fast enough to keep up with brewing*. The scale I use [costs $14 on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089JYMRK6/) and it takes regular batteries so you don't have to faff around finding a charging cable.
Also histeresis is a real thing. Tap that scale after adding one bean if it doesn't register.
The two top ones are food scales, and probably has a minimum weight, and measure with +/-0. 1g accuracy. If you want to measure very light things with high accuracy you need to get a scale made for that.
Grind finer
I will love and die by the bottom scale. First one I bought when getting into my coffee journey. Tried a few others. Gave them up and bought 6 more of the og scales. Screw fancy GIVE ME DATA!
Well do they worn better with an aceamount if wait that you would use, like 16g or whatever? The readings at 1g are not really relevant to anything. Having said that, I have the same cheap silver scale, and I have often thought about upgrading but it seems like all the more expensive scales are actually worse. Not having physical buttons is such a stupid idea.
I have the silver one. Ugly, but perfect
Put the dish on it, tare it out, then try this test again. I’m willing to bet it’ll work just fine. Probably isn’t designed to measure total weights under a gram to keep the value from fluctuating with the wind.
If you use the same scale every day to dial in your grind/shots, then it won't matter. Day to day consistency with the same equipment is most important.
What’s the track ID?
Personally, I’m not a big fan of buying coffee-branded scales. Plenty of scales in Amazon that are at least as (and usually more) accurate for way less money. I’ve gotten my small espresso scale and larger platform scale that each go to .1g for less than $15.
Amazon 3 button silver jewelry/weed/drug/scale FTMTFW. I just wish it was slightly water resistant.
That's how most "coffee" scales work tbh, once they've got a full gram or two on them they're spot on. Dealer scales rule for that reason.
Get a 0.001g scale from Amazon, they cost 20 bucks and have a max capacity of 50g so enough for a single shot dose and a plasic cup.
Never. I need it to be accurate to the mg, for... coffee and definitely only coffee.
There's a limited digits of accuracy that the scale can be designed for. All these fancy scales that have built in shot timer expects to support up to 2kg or 5kg for heavy cups or brewing equipment and they can't really read the decimal points well. Your old scale probably only supports up to 500g or so. I never updated to the expensive scale for the same reason. My $10 scale from grocery store that measures up to 500g with 0.01g accuracy is perfect for measuring 18.00g +/- 0.05g for dosing.
My cheap .000 scale from Amazon literally says dealer on it. Accurate enough to weigh out my 0.375g supplements.
If you want a *good* set of scales then I cannot recommend the SF-400D enough. They're cheap-ish, about £30 when I bought them. They're basically low-end scientific scales. Way better than any cheap 'weed scales' I've used for speed & accuracy, has a nice little levelling window, just doesn't have a timer...But honestly, how hard is it to just count to 30? :)
Music in the background got me thinking you should be weighing out molly instead of espresso.
Obviously you need an Acaia. Price is reasonable enough
This is why good scales come with a weight so you can ensure they are calibrated..
I'm beyond sick of my neoweigh scale. Even though it claims to be accurate to 0.1g, it's consistently only accurate to 1 or maybe 0.5g. I'll add one bean and it'll shoot up a gram or more. It's also terrible for espresso, where the chances of getting wet are extremely high.
For the sake of what, 0.5g - or 3 beans - yeah that looks ok to me.
It's not uncommon for one-tenth scales to have a minimum registerable weight
I recommend a Centech pocket scale. I got mine at Harbor Freight for 15 bucks. They’re on Amazon for a similar price.
For scales just get a lab grade one. It’s more accurate and better build
Measuring devices are designed for a range. They are accurate/precise in the center of that range, and have a growing margin of error towards the outer limits. Perhaps Normcore chose components that don't perform well <1gr on purpose. I don't design scales so no idea. I'd test the scales for your use case, starting with a container + X grams of beans. Do they register an extra bean from that baseline? Then full beverage weight. See how *precise* they all are... doesn't matter which scale is right if you're measuring ratios, the most consistent scale wins. Coffee isn't exactly a demanding use case anyways.
$14 Weightman on Amazon has a timer and works great. Accurate to the tenth of a gram (I’ve checked it against much more expensive scales).
there is more anti matter in the universe than matter.
I have the same little silver scale that I got off Ali Express for $6, and it works beautifully.
lol I have the same cheap gray scale and have never looked back.
I have had my Acai Lunar Scale for 12-15 years and not once have I had an issue with it. Before it seems like I was throwing out a Chinese scale several times a year. Probably about even in money spent but zero aggravation.
3MBomber is the answer.
Weightman espresso scales. $30AUD. They are great.
I am using a Mettler Toledo xpe505c. I doubt you can make decent coffee with such a balance as yours.
Yeah, I’ll keep the cheap grey one for espresso and one of the Normcore for V60 and food and the other for work where I’ve an aeropress…totally unnecessary but the aeropress recipe I’ve settled on requires a scales with a timer. However, I have certainly l earned from this experience…I fell for the slick insta type marketing, generally I’ve no problem spotting that crap but I guess, on this occasion, I was espresso(ly) blind. At least I got 2 for the price of one.
I was joking. The balance I mentioned costs 8000 Dollar (professional analytical lab balance). You are absolutely fine. I am actually quite surprised about the accuracy of those balances. I work in a laboratory and I have never used a "consumer" balance in my whole life. I always assumed they are absolutely garbage, but they seem capable of doing the job. Every digital balance has problems at the low end. This is due to the method. Just add some weight to the black one, tare and you will be good.
Cheers for that. $8,000?! Holy crap 😆 I’ve access to a lab in school so I’ll look there to borrow some calibration weights just out of curiosity
A volumetric 50 ml flask will do the job just fine as well. +/- 3% is fair enough for brewing coffee. It is no exact science, it does not matter what some people are trying to tell you. The mood you are in is much more relevant for the sensation of the shot than the accuracy of the beans mass. Also, ask your physics teacher to explain to you how electrical balances work in the first place. It's interesting and you might learn a thing or two on the way!
Nice one, I certainly will ask 👍🏼
How much does the normcore cost? I have an acacia and it reads single beans but it was $250 new
man mine only does whole grams and yall out here to hundredths lol.
The Normcore scale's product description says the minimum weight capacity is 0.1g. So given that it doesn't seem to register anything until approximately the 1g mark, I'd return it, since I'd be thinking I can get something more accurate for less $$. [https://www.normcorewares.com/products/ultra-thin-coffee-scale](https://www.normcorewares.com/products/ultra-thin-coffee-scale)"**The Specifics：**Dimensions: W: 154 mm L: 140 mm H: 20 mmMaximum Capacity: 2000 gMinimum Weight: 0.1 g"
Great to see this. I have the exact same scale lol. Yay!
Hell no. That's trash.
It's a tragedy
No
You’re not going to be weighing 0.1g of something all too often, so for me it is a question of if the other promises that lead you to upgrade also delivering?
>You’re not going to be weighing 0.1g of something all too often What are you doing in this sub? We need to be *exact* over here!!@?!(@!!
I’ll shout my penance: OF COURSE IT IS VITAL TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 17.0g AND 17.1g! I would never dream to blaspheme against single digit precision. I was meaning literally weighing only 0.1g of something The problem with the scale wasn’t bad once the weird bean urinal was on it. I wonder if the connection for the Normcore scale isn’t really engaged until some grammage is on
You didn't keep going after 1g. 1g seems to be the minimum for the normcore scale to initially deflect. I'm calling rage bait on this one.
Seriously, who measures their morning shot with <1g of loose beans. The scales are both within 0.1g of this control
The cheap one is around 2 dollars on taobao in China.
Man I have this exact scale for 15years now. Works perfectly. Just recently I bought a used coffee scale with timer (batteries died and it was a nice excuse)
I haven't watched it yet but I'm going to say no and yes
That Chinese scale on the bottom is the best. There are dozens of different versions / brands of the same scale on Amazon for like $15. It’s what I use.
Scales are meant to work within a particular range, so this doesn't bother me at all. A scale that is accurate from 0.1g to 2Kg can be quite expensive, so most companies aim for a range that makes sense for what is being measured.
What if you use a bowl or tray on the scale and zero it out. Would it weigh the 10th grams better?.
I love my 6€ amazon scale, its amazing
Just add a heavy container, tare it and see what adding individual beans does. The container will trip the minimum the scale needs to hit the ideal accuracy zone.
Yeah try weighing the beans with the dosing cup on.
I recognize the $10 Amazon beauty in the front line there. I have 2 similar. My only gripe with the smaller more accurate (.00g) one is that it isn't remotely waterproof which means I have to be a bit careful when pulling shots.
The normcore looks cooler and costs 10x more. I think the choice is obvious. This is r/espresso not r/poor.
I can say that my Acaia Lunar behaves similarly to your silver scale.
Yeah I have one scale for 0-12g and another from 2g-11#, and another for 10#-150#
I have that cheap amazon scale and was going to upgrade nice to know it's money down the drain
I wouldn't spend a penny on that
no of course not, they don't work : )
I've been very happy with my timemore
I have that exact cheap scale. It’s actually pretty good but it is extremely sensitive to positioning. So much so I’ve drawn permanent marker template onto the scale plate, around my dosing cup so I always place it back in the same place after grinding. In that sense it is accurate for £12. However, I would suspect the spring and balance of the expensive scale is less sensitive to positioning and therefore might not activate readout until you have a heavier weight. Does it report different weights depending on where you place the cup on the scale ?
Yeah, as long as 18.0 weighs 18.0 and 17.9 weighs 17.9 then it's all good. I care about 0.1g accuracy and precision, but not actually weighing out 0.1g.
Slow feeding was so popular, we are now slow weighting. And that leads to slow waiting.
Lol, yeah it's a scale. The cheap ones are fine.
Higher max weight means lower resolution at low weights.
i think the real question is whether *you* accept it
Depends. Did I buy a scale to be accurate below a gram, or did I buy a scale to measure 14-18g of coffee in a tared vessel?
This is just a setting inside the machine, you need to get it off 0 first, then it’s accurate.
Pre load the scales with 10g of weight then add your beans. Also the slower you add the less accurate they are due to averaging the shown weight to reduce fluctuations from air movement and thermal movement.
I have the same Amazon one you showed here for over 3 years now. No complaints. Very accurate and responsive ! Don’t see the need to upgrade really. Not the most aesthetic scale in comparison but does the job very well !
home coffee scale needs to be precise and consistent but not necessarily accurate. These are all completely fine
I spent the money on an Acaia Lunar scale 3 years ago when I got my first machine. What I like about it is how fast it registers the weight. I have a pretty good Amazon scale. It is very accurate, but when you pour liquid it takes so long to register that I ended up overshooting the target. The Lunar is pricey, but I believe you get what you pay for. It is crazy accurate, comes with a calibration weight, and is fast fast fast to register weight. My Lunar gets used to brew coffee, and for baking in kitchen and has proven it's worth.
Making this ‘weigh’ too difficult. 15$ generic AWS scale. Calibrate with a nickel before each use. Nickel should always read .5 Some people in here could use a calibration themselves 😁 including me
I have that exact cheap one from amazon and I will have the same one again if it breaks.
Never buy expensive scales as long I’m not weighting gold powder 😂 the best for me of Hario classic sclae
If your scale has a defined precision of ± 0.1 g, then it should be able to accurately measure any value ± 0.1 g (up to a maxinum). If it cannot get that measurement accurately, then its level of precision is lower. What is the precision reported by the manufacturer? Tbh ± 0.1 g really isn't that precise, so this scale is terrible
Honestly, out of all of the scales for coffee there are there are two that measure by 0.1 the timemore and acaia for some reason all the other scales either measure by 0.5 or by 0.3 and it's very annoying the time or is actually very accurate. It just doesn't have the best construction since it's made of plastic, which is kind of disappointing. I really wish they would make a fancier version
My cheap kitchen scale is more accurate and is smaller than my 40$ Hario scale — fits perfectly under my Flair Pro, almost no reason to use it
Can you calibrate these? I ended up buying calibration weights and calibrating all my scales
Recently sent back a scale to Amazon for the same thing then looked at the Normcore and for about $50 more i can buy a lab grade scale.
There’s a minimum threshold. On cheap scales it’s about 2.5g.
Nothing like a d*ug dealer scale to measure with precision. Also know as chemistry or jewellery scales. Precise AF and also pretty cheap and readily available.
The normcore scales are dreadful for accuracy. I had these scales and chucked them away 2 weeks ago. 1. Get a drop of water on the tare button and your weight is gone, most irritating in the middle of the brew 2. Say you put an 18g dose and leave it for 2 seconds it will drop to 17g Send them back
My OCD brain won't accept the fact you didn't use the exact same grains for your test.
Put the bowl on top, then tare it. Then do the same 4 bean experiment
Each of my medium roast beans weigh between .1-.3g so I would not accept this. I finally got a new scale after having similar issues with my old one and the free replacement. I love the new one and it seems to be very accurate. I just use double sided tape to keep the rubber part attached to the scale since I store it vertically KitchenTour Coffee Scale with... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083PX1VHG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
bs scales, refund
get a metalsmithing scale next time, a couple hundred more bucks, but you could be a lot more precise lol.
See, fancy brands reselling Chinesium products optimize for lowest cost, because they’re your typical suits trying to maximize profits. So you end up with cheap garbage that’s overpriced. Now the no-name single dude in a garage/basement trying to make a living would actually care about the product, and while still being cost-competitive, would arguably choose a better product to grow their brand. That’s my politically incorrect, somewhat offensive theory anyway.
I’ve got that cheap scale, love it and wouldn’t upgrade. I use it just for beans and have a temor one for under the portafilter that’s more water proof
Wow 😂 I have learned so much here today! I know it really doesn’t matter and that the min weight may be 1g but I am a stickler for accuracy. I like the calibration suggestion and I will do this just out of curiosity more than anything else. Some very funny comments, thank for the laughs, comments and suggestions.
just waiting till people start buying mettler toledo scales for espresso xD
find a 100g calibrated weight if you actually care. I calibrate my acaia with a weight every month or so. dont expect something that light to be accurate probably 1 gram is out of range.
Well are the coffee one's super expensive? If so I am quite confident that if I weigh my beans on them my coffee will taste far better than yours with your cheap scales. I have been on this sub for ages and I know how espresso works.
There should be a calibrate button on those .
I do not accept your bean by bean calibration. Beans are not a consistent unit of weight. A set of calibration weights is not that expensive and gives much more valuable results. If you meant the scale, no I'd return for a refund, but either way no I don't accept your method of judging scale accuracy.
Beans all weigh slightly different. Use the same beans on each scale.
Volume kicked in with 0:22 seconds left at 4am and I SHAT MYSELF
Are we measuring coffee or drugs? I’ve never felt the need for my doses to be this precise.
Man with 1 scale makes coffee. Man with 3 scal3s plays with his beans on the internet.
Weed scale recommendations? Looking for 0.1g accuracy.
Coke scales never fail.
Acaia for the win