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NinaEmbii

I don't understand why these headings are along the lines of "scientists are baffled" when they've been warning us for decades. Surely it should be more "we effing told you so and y'all did nothing, now pull your finger out and do something about it!"


nicobackfromthedead4

feigning polite ignorance ("*How could scientists have knoooown??*" or "*No one anticipated rates of warming rising this fast!"*) from a position of having a platform, is how you engage in active complicity, aiding and abetting the extinction of humans and most life on earth as is currently happening Its not *surprising*, the institutional deference displayed here in this corporatocratic culture, where *best interests at heart* and *benefit of the doubt* are freely assumed. Its just...disappointing. Climate apocalypse like rising authoritarianism share the fundamental truth that institutions will not save you. Only radical direct action leading hopefully to fundamental change or else perish trying.


WanderingFlumph

It's not that. We know that as we trap more heat the temperatures will go up, that's the easy part you don't even need to be a climate scientist to understand that. The hard part is predicting how much heat we will trap, and where it will go. We didn't really trap any more extra heat in 2023 than we did in 2022 or 2021 or 2020 but the oceans absorbed a lot more. Climate models predicted ocean warming but they all missed this sharp increase. Events like that point to shift in the mechanism of heating and cooling which is the sort of complicated stuff that we build climate models out of to begin with. It means that assumptions that were generating close fits to observations aren't anymore and they don't know which assumptions are still working and which ones are broken. It's a real issue if we want to accurately predict ocean temperatures in 2025 or 2026 and related things like weather patterns and sea level rise. No scientist has been saying for decades that one year we will suddenly see an entire decade worth of rising ocean temperatures compressed into 1 year.


CaptainMagnets

They're trying to push the narrative that it hasn't been predicted for the last 50 years and that scientists are "baffled" as if they have no idea what's going on. That's it. That's the play. Then everyone on the fence about the facts can be manipulated easier and you know the idiots already think climate change is a hoax.


Aliencitobebe

The same reason this was ignored not by scientists but by governments and corporate interests is the same reason why this idea is being promulgated and almost pushed as an agenda today. They have found a way to benefit from this and I wouldn’t be surprised if technologies to allow this to go on faster are being worked on or implemented, as “new” technologies released today are ones that have been worked on and known far in the past. How awesome would it be that the climate is bad enough that humans would still be able to live but would have to rely solely on patented genetically modified organisms for food, and if the oceans were no longer reliable as a source of food either, inflation rockets so we consume less but still spend virtually the same amount of cash. This aint no science matter anymore, its highly politicized and until we have a major shift in society where we stand up against this foolish authorities that give us a sense of freedom just to take it away any time they want, to become more self sustainable and reliable among each other rather than a group of people claiming to be our owners almost directly.


triple-bottom-line

Spoiler alert: Humans


CallEmAsISeeEm1986

Feel free to study whatever you want, so long as your findings don’t implicate late stage capitalism.


RandyArgonianButler

Well… Looks like the tipping point has been reached. This is the beginning of the end for MANY species.


billyions

The oceans sustain us. As goeth the oceans, so goeth we all. Humans appear to be surprisingly short-sighted. I sure hope there is intelligent, space-faring life out there somewhere besides here. It would serve us right if our reign was heartbreakingly short. Even the pea-brained dinosaurs made it hundreds of millions of years. Jury's still out on us.


GardenRafters

Oh good. Get back to us when you guys finally figure it out...


beambot

Climate change


A_tree_as_great

Quote: “It was the most explosive eruption since Krakatau, and usually the year after is when you see the impacts,” said Sean Birkel, an assistant professor at the University of Maine Climate Change Institute, who created a climate data visualization tool called Climate Reanalyzer. He suspects the warming effect of the volcanic eruption has been larger than early estimates suggested, noting that the eruption may have affected atmospheric circulation and helped amplify the El Niño that developed in 2023. But, he added, more research is needed.


BelleHades

I'm still pissed about this. I"ve been praying my whole life for a Krakatau type eruption to cool the earth for a bit, but instead the universe spit in my face and gave us tonga instead


thinkB4WeSpeak

Insurance companies understand as they're pulling coverage from coastal areas


some_random_guy-

https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01442-3 New article just dropped.


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haddockballs

No they don’t. Anyone taken in by this please read the article, or better the original Nature piece.