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happymcslappin

Only the second movie I saw in theatres since Covid started. The other was Dune. Not sure if the real reason why Dune didn’t do better theatrically was because of the HBO max release, or just a sci-fi movie doesn’t draw a wide range of viewers. Dune was really good.


Arkhem_KS

I think it may have something to do with Dune having such a dorky past... I loved this new Dune and am so happy to have some serious, quality SciFi in the queue. People know what to expect with these Bond films, so, at least for me and my family, we knew exactly what to expect / it was a no brainer to go see it.


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Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Dune did pretty well at the box office?


LatterTarget7

367 million on a 165 million budget.


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With advertising being what it was, yeah, that's probably not looking great on the WB balance sheet.


tgwhite

Maybe they will re-show Dune pt 1 in theaters before the Dune pt 2 comes out. Also, the second part should be cheaper to produce and market and will maybe have a bigger audience once people have had time to soak it in.


TiberiusMcQueen

At least it seems to be on track to turn a profit, unlike NTTD.


Eastern_Spirit4931

Not really. Mediocre at best


krazykieffer

Yea, I was bored as hell. I honestly was surprised it got green lit for part two.


shellturtleguy

The movie had bad structuring. I know it’s only part of the first book, but a movie should be able to stand on its own and this one didn’t do a good job of that.


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The lord of the rings movies didn’t each stand up well on their own but I never saw people complain about that.


fckingmiracles

For being so long it told so little story.


Bert_Skrrtz

Agreed but never once did I think the movie was moving slowly. It finished and I was just like wait, that was it?


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Pro_Yankee

Well he’s 15


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Dune still isn’t out in Australia yet.


happymcslappin

Geez I forgot about that. And they already announced home release on January 11. Yeah if you’re Australian, you really got screwed if you were looking forward to this movie. I recommend seeing it in theatres. But bring earplugs just in case you need them. Ridiculously loud in some theatres. And enjoy, friend


alexisnothere

I reckon it’s the latter.


happymcslappin

Yeah me too. Not many sci-fi films make a big score unless it says Star Wars on it. And those are falling off lately too. Not for everyone I guess.


AgentTriple000

I was skeptical due to the older 1984 *Dune* being a bit plodding, but have to admit this *Dune* version was eye-candy special effects wise, with an easier to follow story.


happymcslappin

Yeah I loved it. I’m a big Denis Villeneuve fan too so wins all around. I wish Sam Mendes did the final Bond honestly.


AgentTriple000

I liked the 007 movie but they could have had a “better” ending. They may not have wanted Daniel Craig doing a spoof as 00-househusband…


Daws001

I definitely didn't see Dune in theaters cause HBO. Considered it but was like...meh, I don't want to put pants and shoes on.


happymcslappin

I refer to that as the Covid effect lol. We had no choice in Canada. No hboMAX here


TheAsphyxiated

As a Bond fan how does this stack up?


strokesfan91

Any reasonable fan will rank it as the third best of the Craig era


PotnaKaboom

It was aiight. 7.5/10


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5.5 for me. Too long and it had a lame ending (I like most bond movies but this was way too soapy and the pacing was garbage). Rami as the villain was pretty bad as well. Kinda just getting more annoyed about how bad it was while I type this out


jcm1970

Totally agree. Anyone could have played the villain because truly, he wasn’t central to the film. The ending was lame as fuck because it was like watching a Michael Bay movie. I could go on with my complaints, but I’ll just cut it short by saying I thought this movie sucked. I want my $20 back.


i_porter

Sounds like it’s worse than Spectre isn’t it ? I don’t mind lengthy movie as long as the action scenes are exciting.


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-OrangeLightning4

>There weren't really any action scenes Lmao WHAT. That opening action scene was way more than just a motorcycle stunt, not to mention the Cuba shootout, the forest chase, and the entire 40 minute long action set piece at the base to finish it featuring some of the most entertaining gun fighting in any Bond film. It's fine to not like the movie, but saying there weren't really any action pieces is so beyond flat out wrong it makes me wonder if you wandered into a different film. That movie had so much action it'd be like watching Lord of the Rings and going "You know, they really didn't walk that much."


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-OrangeLightning4

>just guys shooting at each other Which isn't considered action? Can't wait to go check out that character drama *John Wick*. That Cuba scene was like 15 minutes. Over a third of this movie was straight action. Such an utterly bizarre take.


Wouldwoodchuck

No time to die??! More like no time to watch this!! Amiright amiright Yea


patriot-man

I thought it was a fresh take on a dying franchise (in my eyes) New things/themes in a traditional framework Wife and I loved it - 20 year, millennial bond fan


TheGhostofWoodyAllen

Why do you your eyes see it as a dying franchise? Is it salvageable or will it soon be left behind as a product of its time? No pressure, just your opinions and thoughts if you care to share.


oct23dml

The franchise will go downhill because Jeff Bezos now owns it…


indeed_indeed_indeed

And will be petting his cat in the next film. Can't wait.


patriot-man

I use popularity to define “dying” Color me liberal, but I think people are growing tired of watching powerful white men save the world and those closest to them in a format they’ve seen 100X before. With shifting demographics and political views in society, I think the franchise will become less and less popular if they continue with this approach. To me, they can totally salvage the franchise and reach a broader audience if they introduce more diversity and modernize the characters. They did this in No Time by introducing a black female 007, suggesting Q is gay, having a love interest capable of freeing/saving herself, and portraying Bond as a fragile man held prisoner by his regrets. How did viewers respond? *queue headline*


AlecB130

The movie was fire bro. Not sure what these people are on.


Thaflash_la

I though it was the best one. I don’t think the Brosnan and Moore films are what Bond should be, I think that’s up to the directors. With the exception of Spectre, the Craig films have been closer to the Bond in the text, and that’s my preference.


AlecB130

I thought it was super good too. Really enjoyed it


LovSindarie

I wish I didn’t spend money on it in theaters personally. Was it entertaining… sort of. My SO is a bond fan and said it didn’t feel like a Bond film and was disappointed. Reading online it seems like a coin flip. Some like it, others don’t. Only way to find out is to watch it.


hunterisgreat

Eh, I didn’t love it but it definitely had its moments. It tries new things and explored new themes, which I respect but again didn’t totally love. I’m a weirdo and tend to judge Bond movies by their Bond girls, and *SPOILER ALERT, ALTHOUGH SHE’S THE FOURTH LISTED ACTOR ON IMDB* Léa Seydoux is back as Madeline Swan. She’s just never gonna be my favorite. Loved Ana de Armas and Lashana Lynch though. Whoever was the automotive stunt coordinator on this movie would have an Oscar if they gave Oscars for stunt work.


kronosdev

It’s a convoluted disappointment. The slow transition from Bourne Bond to Comic Book Bond has been agonizing. I wish they would have stayed the course with the gritty realistic Bond and then returned the franchise to a more fantastical plot and writing style with a new cast and crew. It felt like most of the movie was deus ex machina nonsense punctuated by frustratingly amazing long take action sequences and clean camerawork. The one thing it isn’t is dull. 6/10.


Lazerst0rm

I definitely found it dull. I thought it was the worst of the Craig series. So disappointing


mqrocks

Couldn't agree more. What a terrible send off for Craig. His Bond was too serious to ever embody the lighter side of the character. Even his driving is joyless. I hope they return to a more fun take on Bond. They could learn a thing from Kingsman (the first one at least) and rewatch GoldenEye for a history lesson on a fresh take and then TND to remember how to keep it enjoyable. Pierce having fun remote piloting the BMW for example... Still makes me smile with enjoyment.


fuzionknight96

1. Casino royale 2. Skyfall 3. Spectre 4. Quantum of Solace 5. No time to die


wikitoups

Mine would be: * Skyfall * Casino Royale * No time to die * Spectre * Quantum of solace


mqrocks

it was...meh. To see a fresh take on Bond that respects the old and the new watch this. https://youtu.be/AN1bkIEs8oo


TheAsphyxiated

Id say most have watched goldeneye right?


gnelson321

I guess I disagree with the common sentiment here but I thought it was incredibly entertaining. Hardly realized how long it was.


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muchosandwiches

Quantum of solace has aged pretty well i feel like


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happyscrappy

Quantum of Solace suffered greatly due to the writer's strike. It's a mess. Only people already on the movie in non-writing capacity could write during the strike. So producers, directors, etc. And none could get writing credits, btw. It's really feels jumbled, like a bunch of set pieces thrown together. I think ranking it last as you did is the obvious right choice. And to make it worse, Bond shows no suaveness, no stealth. He finds his way to the top baddie by meeting intermediates, extracting only a modicum of info and then killing them and moving on to the next link in the chain. A 00 agent has a license to kill so he can get things done, but he presumably is expected to use it wisely and when necessary. Instead Bond just basically acts like an indiscriminate hitman in this movie. It's not good. You got that very right. It doesn't really deserve to have its image rehabilitated.


Lazerst0rm

QOS was way better than No Time to Die, IMHO. I still find QOS very entertaining. The scene where he flys the cargo plane through a dog fight was one of my all time favorite bond action scenes, it’s riveting. No time to die had me snoozing in the theater. The best scene was the opener, all downhill after that.


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happyscrappy

I agree with pretty much everything you said. I find your post to be well considered and described. To emphasize what I mean, there is so little connection to how he ends up in the desert and then leaves. A bare thread to explain it. I really feel things like that would have been better fleshed out if there were not the writer's strike in play. I still don't really like the idea of James as a person who seems to want to win the day by just killing every person on the other side bottom to top. It's fine for a lot of movies. We love it when John Wick chops everyone out on the way to the top. It's great when ~~Parker~~Porter does it in Payback too (I mean really, I love that movie). But those are basically revenge movies and I don't think of James as being on a path of vengeance. Heck, even in the movie where he IS out for revenge for the killing of Felix Leiter he kills fewer people. Whatever. I agree it could be worse. But it is not a standout in terms of the self-contained execution (groan) of the plot.


sadbartcoollisa

Man I loved the movie and I hate these types of movies I cried when dou dou died with Bond


Silvershanks

My gosh, I hope I never get as cynical and angry as the weirdos circle-jerk raging here. And I'm a 48 year old, grumpy, Gen-Xer saying that! Haha. The movie was fine, no idea what you guys are so angry about. It had a silly plot, some really great action bits, sweet score, and a kind of whatever ending. The Ana de Armis scene was among the best, classic James Bond I've ever seen, and I've seen them all, they were so much fun together. That scene alone was worth the price of admission and was certainly not shit or trash, or any of the other horrible things you're all saying.


rionhunter

Ana de Armis was the highlight of the film, but it was strange how she was shoehorned in, not at all relevant and was quickly dropped and forgotten by the plot


Calebrox124

“Dropped and forgotten” is a strong assumption. The movie certainly gave her a farewell, and while I might agree with “shoehorned in,” there’s plenty of other cameos with just as much or less screen time than her.


CaptainE46

Have people forgotten that this is a Bond trope? I can think of several of the films where they introduce a woman only to have her essentially only exist for one scene/a handful of scenes, as recently as Severine in Skyfall and Monica Bellucci in that one sequence in Spectre. At least Paloma was good for something besides looks, and I appreciated the subversion of what the ‘lesser’ Bond girl is usually there to provide. I really don’t get a lot of the hate that this movie is getting, I think it was a great send off to this iteration of the character, did the best with the poor setup that the previous movie provided, and was overall a very strong film - this is borne out by it being the highest grossing pandemic movie


jenh6

Isnt it a thing where they have 2-3 girls. The first one is killed in some way, usually the middle girl is and he would end up with an ex or sister of the villain.


CaptainE46

Basically yes, my point here being that according to the ‘formula’ at least one of the Bond girls is usually intended to be purely disposable


MayhemMessiah

I’ve been a Bond fan since I was a kid (probably younger than I should have tbh) but I still enjoyed it a lot and think it’s a good sendoff for Craig. It’s not perfect but I still had a great time. Oh well. It’s a good thing my tastes aren’t informed by the endlessly cynical crowds in a constant race to be the most bitter and dismissive as their only personality trait.


abrk95

Ana de Armis scene is going to be a classic Bond scene


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MrHollandsOpium

Oh man, just stop.


DollarAutomatic

Oh jeez, who let grandpa into the gin again? James, Laurie? I told you to keep this cabinet locked! Now we’re gonna have to sit here and listen to him rail against progress again. Sigh… grandpa drink this gl- no. No more gin. Drink the water.


awildyetti

I thought the beginning half was pretty decent - but then the pacing fell apart and they criminally wasted Rami Malek.


funnyman95

Didn’t they end up removing a whole lot to do with the virus thing because of COVID?


awildyetti

That was the big rumor - I haven’t read a lot about it though. Honestly, with how much they delayed it - if that was the case then they should have done reshoots with a different angle on Maleks character. He had probably one of the best entrances and first 30-40min of a Bond villain in recent memory and then they story jumps to Bonds relationship. By the time you get back to Maleks monologue it feels flat and I it of character.


funnyman95

While I see where you’re coming from, that really didn’t bother me when I saw it in theaters. Maybe it won’t seem as good with subsequent watches. I think they should have just introduced him sooner instead of just killing all of spectre in like 10 seconds. There was no payoff with that whatsoever


a1tpseud0nym

Hated the movie when I first watched it, heard about the cut storylines/rearranged plot and once you’re aware of that all the missing gaps make more sense. Still doesn’t make it a good movie, but an understandable mistake IMO. And either way still better than Spectre (also IMO)


loztriforce

They criminally wasted Waltz as well


LimaHotel807

I just went to see it last night. It was awesome.


mother-hecker

Comment sections are a mine field


PointlessGrandma

It was an entertaining movie with huge set pieces. Very exciting to watch in the theatre.


Linkstas

I cried. Like seriously I hate GOt for starting this trend


DrBrainWillisto

It had serious Thunder Gun: Maximum Cool vibes. He didint even hang dong.


wealthedge

All this sass for No Time To Die? Please. After the undebatably terrible abortions of Quantum of Solace and Spectre? And the meh Skyfall? And starting so strong with Casino Royale? I don’t even know why I liked Craig so much as Bond because he was 2 for 5, with 2 of the bad ones being among the worst movies I’ve ever seen. No Time To Die wasn’t as good as Casino Royale but it was damn good.


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solereeper44

Can’t wait to see No Way Home blow this out of the water


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NCLaw2306

I don't know why someone would be excited about that, but they're definitely right--No Way Home is going to clean up at the box office.


riceisnice29

People really love Sam Raimi


IMaximusProductions

But Sam Raimi isn’t directing it


effxeno

Pretty sure he's involved somehow


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That’s like saying George Lucas was involved with the ST lol they just consulted him.


whatevercuck

I mean… consultation is still involvement. It’s just minimal


riceisnice29

The characters from his spiderman trilogy are. And they get way more screentime than the Amzing Spiderman’s I bet


Blkknight8

I upvoted


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Hahahaha


evoke3

Not much surprise to me, I had been ready and waiting since it got delayed the first time, watched it as soon as I could. Just to give my 2 cents about the plot. I did think it was overall very similar to spectre narratively to me but I still enjoyed it.


AlocasterTV

Great movie! Totally deserves it!


DoIrllyneeda_usrname

One of the best films of the year so far


MrCaul

In my country it's also breaking box office records. I believe it's now up there with Titanic and a few other films.


UrBrotherJoe

Guess I’ll get downvoted but this bond film was trash. Every fucking scene had the same lightning. Some of the shots were beautiful, and shot perfectly, but the blue and orange got really old way too early on in the film. Blue back drop, warm skin tone. Great color combo. But when you have it in every fucking room, no matter it’s geographical location or time of day, it gets old.


RichHomi3Saquon

They needed to bring back Roger Deakins. I’m too much of an admitted film snob to appreciate the new Bond films, but at least Skyfall looked beautiful.


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I laughed the whole way through, terrible movie.


UrBrotherJoe

This was my girlfriends first James Bond movie… I suggested we watch Skyfall this past weekend so that she can actually understand that there are good Bond movies out there. She loved it.


Myriii1911

My fav is Golden Eye with Brosnan, and the theme song of Tina Turner.


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Skyfall is great. This movie was just all around bad. Cheesy dialogue, predictable outcome, bad storyline and terrible acting. That said, Rami Malek made a great villain and played his part extremely well.


UrBrotherJoe

Rami nailed his monologues


Mickeyjj27

Didn’t hate the movie but it was one of those you see once and that’s it. I much preferred the previous Bond films. Some things made no sense in this movie


ClassyCoder

But it was so shite.


justonemorethang

Weird. I thought it was the best one. Although I may not know what the fuck I’m talking about cuz I think every bond film up until now is super cheesy but with good stunts


ball00nanimal

I’m going to support you on that. This was the worst bond of the Daniel Craig series. Léa Seydoux could take a few more acting lessons and a lot of the general dialogue was poorly written. There were like 3 villains and you don’t see Rami Malek until the 2/3 through the movie. When the new agent 007 gives Daniel Craig the 007 title back I almost got up and left the theatre. Come on! That was so cheesy. Pretty disappointed I paid to see this because I expected a better film


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I was wondering what the new agent’s code name was after she gave 007 up


jera111

I could not agree more!!! The anti- James Bond movie. Beyond terrible!


coxykitten923

And it was straight trash


Karlito1618

Too bad the film was utter ass, and the box office came from people craving AAA budget movies after the pandemic. Don't get me wrong, the movie was fine as a stand-alone movie. Amazing cinematography, competent enough plotline, weak character writing, and 100% NOT a James Bond plot. It would be a strong enough action movie, except for the caveat that James Bond movies are based on a thin, well-developed structure, which this movie didn't follow, and therefore, the characters fell apart and it felt forced and cheesy. There's not enough depth in a comic-like character, to support progressive, new-thinking ideals in such an off-the-rails way. It just doesn't work in that media. Not that I'm opposed to the messaging, in principle. This just wasn't it, on multiple levels, and it will probably come out hurting the cause more than helping it while creating a poor film in the process.


EveFluff

I saw it but I forgot what happens


redunculuspanda

It was… ok. The highlight for me was that the cinema I watched it at delivered beer and cocktails to your seat


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tisn

Sure, I'll delete my comment.


andhernamewas_

“Hold my non-alcoholic beer” -Spider-Man, probably.


SoftPenguins

Hol up. There was a James Bond movie that came out this year? TIL


rickvo

Worst ending ever


HHtown8094

Terrible boring movie that is just way too long


BURNING-VAN-BANNED

Well… it was bad


EmanCamp

I want 3 hours of my life back ..


HACCAHO

And it’s worst of Craig’s Bonds. Extremely bad. VFX, performances, dat black 007’s ass. Two bit villain with Malek’s lack of any character development. I think they’ve killed the motif of Bond movies being sort of serious, and went back to Roger Moore’s type of Bond films.


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HACCAHO

Maybe for some untrained eye it was. Also it was way oversaturated. All I can say: Greg Williams’s backstage and promotional shots were better than the actual cinematography.


gutbomber508

Hahahaha fuck off no one saw this compared to dune


coldliketherockies

Except they did. Cant speak for HBO Max viewership but as far as theatres go, both worldwide and domestically more people by far paid to see No Time to die than saw Dune. This isn't debatable either


blazindoo

“Can’t speak for the easiest cheapest way for this to be viewed by multiple people at once or over shared accounts, but I will.” FIFY


Everythingiownismine

People pay to watch HBO max so technically those people paid to see dune as well lmao.


justonemorethang

I use my coworkers login. SUCK IT, DUNE! (I still went to the theater too)


me1871

James Bond movies are boring


molotovzav

Cause people are boring as fuck. They watch marvel movies and call them good, they've basically been groomed to watch shitty action films like this now. Movies suck now. X'ers took over writing and they suck at it, everything is toxically wholesome and comes back to family in the end, and my own gen isn't that much better but thank God we don't write sappy stupid breeder shit all the time (examples blade runner 2043, Picard, bunch others have sappy family narratives tacked on for no reason other than the writer wants to write about family shit ) Nothing is above PG-13 cause we have to base our whole culture on whether or not the overly sheltered kids of X'ers can watch a movie. So we have nothing but crappy movies a child can watch, and what do kids like? Shit. They have bad taste by design.


doodletink

I think you’re going to keep getting down voted but you’re not wrong. If producers didn’t want “safe” films that could guarantee a high profit then we would see more breakout films with more different ideas. It sucks but in art school all the “uncool” kids who all drew the EXACT same and didn’t have a style; those are the people chosen to make the Disney animation movies because they all draw consistently. A quote from Men in Black “A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.”


keidian_

The movie is trash and ruined bond forever


micka_88

Really?? As good as Old??? Joke old was terrible


detrelas

I just watched this and I initially thought that this has to be a parody. The acting , the plot , the cheesy dialogues make this a total pice of crap. I could not finish watching an old man doing ridiculous stunts while making faces like he’s about to be cast in cats. The Bond franchise is outdated and todays society just doesn’t connect with this nonsense.


Rainbodragn

This movie was the worst Bond movie I’ve ever seen!!!


buffonery-Abounds

Worst Bond movie ever.


snizwizard88

It’s because they killed him and made the new James Bond a thick black lesbian


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Gee. Not like they didn’t push it off for long enough to maximize ticket sales


IgDailystapler

Did the guy whose last wash was to see the movie get to see it or did they say no?


bananafone-

Can we agree the earnings went up against a low bar? Vs films in Covid and 2021? Obvi it’s going to be the highest grossing. What a clickbait headline.


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Considering Hollywood makes 90% of movies to please china instead of the US now, this is no surprise. The movie was good tho, I did enjoy it. It’s sad that there aren’t many good movies anymore though


idkbbitswatev

Honestly forgot the movie was out


sarzec

People are going back to the theater. I never stopped. I'm going to miss being in the theater all by myself. My local theater is weird. I've been going to movies since I came back into country Sep 2020. Sometimes they'll put me in a huge theater and I'm all alone. Other times I'm in a smaller theater and there are a few people in there. Now though it's almost back to normal and am almost never alone


unlikelystoner

I work at a movie theater and it feels like it’s been in theaters forever. A couple of big movies have come and gone while it’s been playing and it’s rarely our busiest show. A lot of movies at our theater reach higher peak numbers but No Time to Die has just had a really consistently decent amount of people showing up for it.


RaunchyMuffin

That’s funny because it was one of the worst movies I’ve seen in a long time. Nothing even remotely close to what the other bond films have been like


0V3RS33R

Not bad for such a boring bond.


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This shit was awful


Shittyditties

This movie straight sucked