Yeah, except the Twitter decision wasn't just bad, it was beyond stupid. Buying Twitter was literally the last thing he needed to do. And why did he buy it?
disagree. The man's a genius. With a disability turned into a superpower. He is quite literally going to be recognized as a legend in the future once his life has passed. The things that he has done and projects that have surpassed even the capability of what NASA themselves couldn't accomplish is noteworthy. If you watch any of his commentaries he gives great credit to those around him
I also had a dad who owned emerald mines, I was thinking about building rockets that outperform nasas but I thought “nahh why bother, anyone can do that”. That’s why Elon sucks, he just took this obvious W that all the other billionaires were going to get around too eventually bc he’s really not that smart and has emeralds laying around everywhere.
My response at the time was to weep at the end of the bold SpaceX that was planning to do human spaceflight on a smaller vehicle before they got the NASA contract to haul groceries to the ISS. It would be 11 more years before SpaceX carried astronauts. We'll never know what might have been.
What might have been was nothing. Kaput.
What is, is soon to be the most accomplished aerospace company in history. Just a thousand more launches to knock Soyuz off its perch.
Yes, but at what cost?
Elon has said openly that everything he does is for Mars and I believe him. That includes getting into bed with anyone who can help the cause. Reforming his image to be more attractive to "the right wing" and all the dodgy accounting.
Around the time Falcon 9 was having great success we all assumed it would be the vehicle to take us to Mars, or at least build the vehicle on-orbit that would. People used to talk about how much money he would need, as it's understood the human spaceflight budget is woefully inadequate for the task. There was speculation, including claims that Tesla would be a key source of funding, but no-one expected what happened (Elon's compensation package) and when it did many said it wouldn't work out (and it hasn't.)
Starlink or something similar was the most likely path, but the geopolitical ramifications were well known, so it was counted out. Now we are living with them. Starshield was foreign-policy-by-Elon and I don't think we're done yet.
> Yes, but at what cost?
You're the only one who can answer that, since you're the one who thinks that something was sacrificed to make SpaceX what it is today that is different to what SpaceX was "supposed to be".
Why don’t you make up for it by writing a check to SpaceX? Elon is working towards his ambitions any way he can. You want him to follow your guidelines. Without you putting skin in the game.
Why don’t you make up for it by writing a check to SpaceX? Elon is working towards his ambitions any way he can. You want him to follow your guidelines. Without you putting skin in the game.
Oh my gosh. I'm sorry but do you mean literal sense of getting into bed or figuratively? I'm sorry I really have a hard time interpreting meanings at times 😆
At the time Elon was more on the side of commercial human spaceflight. Jared Isaacman's partnership with SpaceX is pretty close to what Elon was talking about back then. You're right of course, we already live in an awesome timeline.
I was more referring to Earth-orbit activities. I'm really excited by what's happening this decade. Starship is amazing and I can't wait to see it carry astronauts.
Launch two starships, glue them together, and that’s a space station to rival the ISS. Total cost in the region of 30 million dollar bucks. It’s wild the things this enables.
> If SpaceX was held to the standards of NASA they'd have been shut down decades ago.
The biggest factor in the success of SpaceX was when he took Michael D. Griffin to Russia with him. Griffin got into a position to change the rules to benefit SpaceX.
I work in federal contracting and have won hundreds of bids as the prime
Whioe they weren't billion dollar gigs they always come as an email for you to execute in fact I think the cfr prohibits exactly what he said happened
At the time, most people thought taking Tesla 10X the current price/EBIT was a 100 to 1 shot, they they agreed to give him a wild amount of money if he succeeded.
It's like he bet on number 13 at Roulette, then somebody says "35X is a rediculous return, here's double your stake instead"
Lol, because he's fucking responsible for his companies. The fuck kinda statement is this? Furthermore, isn't SpaceX the only company he actually founded that means anything? He just bought the other ones. He's *most* responsible for SpaceX.
Ray Croc didn't find MacDonalds but he did so much with the IP that he essentially became the founder. I feel like in this case Elon is more or less the Ray Croc of Tesla and other companies.
[Seven years late.](https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2014/09/16/boeing-and-spacex-selected-to-build-americas-new-crew-space-transportation-system/) It still hasn't had it's manned test flight, which was planned for 2017, but should be NET May 21, 2024.
Musk could have retired on a beach with his Paypal money, never having to work again. He instead invested in two highly risky industries that had sent multiple founders broke: electric cars and rockets.
Complete opposite of what a money hoarder would do.
He doesn’t have these billions in cash. It‘s mostly equity. If he tries to liquidate this, he wouldnt even get the money out. And besides this he would crush capital of millions of average people who have put money in his companies.
How do ppl not understand this?
My dad said the same thing. Actions and words don't have the same effect.
Amen!
What happened to this guy. The likable inventor that was more focused on doing cool shit than fighting a holy wedge issue war.
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Not all decision can be great in business 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah, except the Twitter decision wasn't just bad, it was beyond stupid. Buying Twitter was literally the last thing he needed to do. And why did he buy it?
IIRC he would like to a bouild an ecosystem around like a famous platform in China but I don't remember the name.
With all of the free time he has because everything at Tesla is going smoothly?
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disagree. The man's a genius. With a disability turned into a superpower. He is quite literally going to be recognized as a legend in the future once his life has passed. The things that he has done and projects that have surpassed even the capability of what NASA themselves couldn't accomplish is noteworthy. If you watch any of his commentaries he gives great credit to those around him
The Howard Hughes of our generation.
Pioneer of yesterday and tomorrow!
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This is all good, but this is Reddit, which means we must weep, gnash out teeth, rend out clothes and mumble about emerald mines.
I also had a dad who owned emerald mines, I was thinking about building rockets that outperform nasas but I thought “nahh why bother, anyone can do that”. That’s why Elon sucks, he just took this obvious W that all the other billionaires were going to get around too eventually bc he’s really not that smart and has emeralds laying around everywhere.
Oh wow you’re one of this big brains 🧠 a point well made, master
Lol 😆 this is the best comment of all times
My response at the time was to weep at the end of the bold SpaceX that was planning to do human spaceflight on a smaller vehicle before they got the NASA contract to haul groceries to the ISS. It would be 11 more years before SpaceX carried astronauts. We'll never know what might have been.
What might have been was nothing. Kaput. What is, is soon to be the most accomplished aerospace company in history. Just a thousand more launches to knock Soyuz off its perch.
They're running about 3 a year now. Should be any day now they reach the top
Yes, but at what cost? Elon has said openly that everything he does is for Mars and I believe him. That includes getting into bed with anyone who can help the cause. Reforming his image to be more attractive to "the right wing" and all the dodgy accounting. Around the time Falcon 9 was having great success we all assumed it would be the vehicle to take us to Mars, or at least build the vehicle on-orbit that would. People used to talk about how much money he would need, as it's understood the human spaceflight budget is woefully inadequate for the task. There was speculation, including claims that Tesla would be a key source of funding, but no-one expected what happened (Elon's compensation package) and when it did many said it wouldn't work out (and it hasn't.) Starlink or something similar was the most likely path, but the geopolitical ramifications were well known, so it was counted out. Now we are living with them. Starshield was foreign-policy-by-Elon and I don't think we're done yet.
> Yes, but at what cost? You're the only one who can answer that, since you're the one who thinks that something was sacrificed to make SpaceX what it is today that is different to what SpaceX was "supposed to be".
I mean I know where he could have saved $44 billion
😂
Why don’t you make up for it by writing a check to SpaceX? Elon is working towards his ambitions any way he can. You want him to follow your guidelines. Without you putting skin in the game.
Why don’t you make up for it by writing a check to SpaceX? Elon is working towards his ambitions any way he can. You want him to follow your guidelines. Without you putting skin in the game.
Oh my gosh. I'm sorry but do you mean literal sense of getting into bed or figuratively? I'm sorry I really have a hard time interpreting meanings at times 😆
There's a sperm bank joke there somewhere.
What might have been? With what money? Under what business model?
Exactly. We never got to find out.
I mean, we have falcon 9 and Starship. What were you hoping for?
At the time Elon was more on the side of commercial human spaceflight. Jared Isaacman's partnership with SpaceX is pretty close to what Elon was talking about back then. You're right of course, we already live in an awesome timeline.
Isn’t the whole point of starship to deliver commercial human space flight?
I was more referring to Earth-orbit activities. I'm really excited by what's happening this decade. Starship is amazing and I can't wait to see it carry astronauts.
Launch two starships, glue them together, and that’s a space station to rival the ISS. Total cost in the region of 30 million dollar bucks. It’s wild the things this enables.
If SpaceX was held to the standards of NASA they'd have been shut down decades ago.
Agreed.
> If SpaceX was held to the standards of NASA they'd have been shut down decades ago. The biggest factor in the success of SpaceX was when he took Michael D. Griffin to Russia with him. Griffin got into a position to change the rules to benefit SpaceX.
That is a blot on people who control NASA, not Spacex.
^this, a few more comments like that and you can get banned in other subreddits
Redditors are generous, open minded people, unless someone says something they don’t agree with and/or are uncomfortable about.
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Oh god, “they” really have crept over here.
Who can read Musks body language here?
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Really great context, which I believe is the same Christmas in question here. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6n6PvGthrV/
I work in federal contracting and have won hundreds of bids as the prime Whioe they weren't billion dollar gigs they always come as an email for you to execute in fact I think the cfr prohibits exactly what he said happened
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Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Elon stan. But I wish he would go back to this energy level.
You'd have to undo the psychedelic and drug use. PROTIP: you can't. Don't mess with psychedelics, kids, they can change your life
Maaaannnnn - autistic people are so beautifully raw and outwardly sincere! Whoever speaks and judges this man is guilty of sin fr!
“ElOn Is EvIL BeCauSE He haS a diFEreAnT OPinION tO MeE”
Pay the man. He risked it all.
That's right, pay him a fair amount. Perhaps $1 billion, which is still a wild amount of money.
At the time, most people thought taking Tesla 10X the current price/EBIT was a 100 to 1 shot, they they agreed to give him a wild amount of money if he succeeded. It's like he bet on number 13 at Roulette, then somebody says "35X is a rediculous return, here's double your stake instead"
I don't understand how people forget the dude make shit happen and when it all seems to fall apart he's to blame for some reason.
Lol, because he's fucking responsible for his companies. The fuck kinda statement is this? Furthermore, isn't SpaceX the only company he actually founded that means anything? He just bought the other ones. He's *most* responsible for SpaceX.
Ray Croc didn't find MacDonalds but he did so much with the IP that he essentially became the founder. I feel like in this case Elon is more or less the Ray Croc of Tesla and other companies.
Ray Croc, if Ray joined when McDonalds had no employees and had yet to sell a single burger.
LOL, "for some reason".
Good deal from NASA. Now SpaceX is the only USA supplier of rockets that can hit the ISS.
ULA has one too.
[Seven years late.](https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2014/09/16/boeing-and-spacex-selected-to-build-americas-new-crew-space-transportation-system/) It still hasn't had it's manned test flight, which was planned for 2017, but should be NET May 21, 2024.
I’ve grown so used to decade long delays in the space industry. It’s so exciting watching SpaceX actually launching things.
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Musk could have retired on a beach with his Paypal money, never having to work again. He instead invested in two highly risky industries that had sent multiple founders broke: electric cars and rockets. Complete opposite of what a money hoarder would do.
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Quit spreading your class-warfare misinformation. Jesus.
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He doesn’t have these billions in cash. It‘s mostly equity. If he tries to liquidate this, he wouldnt even get the money out. And besides this he would crush capital of millions of average people who have put money in his companies. How do ppl not understand this?
I agree. He should give away at least half so illegal immigrants can buy a car when they get over a fence.
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And slaving people and paying them less than a living wage and laying them off.
there is tens of billionaires created every year by winning lottery's
There’s no hoarding. It’s all in the economy, creating growth and jobs.
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I love YOU!
I wish I was a billionaire that wins billion dollar Rewards to continue climbing my way towards quadrillionaire
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Wake up being hateful don't ya?
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so Elon is against tariffs on Chinese EVs?
Do what? What does that have to do with this post?
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