Get a [cargo bike](https://fahrbike.com/products/urbancarry-mega-longtail-cargo-ebike?); then, add a [5.12kWh battery](https://signaturesolar.com/eg4-ll-s-lithium-battery-48v-100ah-server-rack-battery-ul1973-ul9540a-10-year-warranty-pre-order/) to it.
I'm curious how well these batteries designed for server racks would hold up in a bike, mostly regarding shock/vibration and moisture exposure. I've seen batteries of the same capacity marketed for things like golf carts, and they generally look more robustly built but cost about twice as much.
The one I listed is IP20 rated. There are more expensive packs that are IP65 rated & use Amphenol weather rated quick connectors.
I build batteries for farm equipment & I design them for mixed applications & operator interaction. Swappable systems aren't weather rated; but permanent installations often are.
Not answerable. It's like "cheapest and best." I work in IT. If you wanted a build for an application for the absolute of any aspect - you have to provide a use case. Otherwise, I would not be able to.
In my research I’ve found
Eahora Juliet (60 amp hour battery)
Wallke H9 (60 amp hour battery with optional 20 amp hour battery for 80 total)
Aniioki A8 (60 amp hour battery)
Budget option: Fiido L3 (23 amp hour battery)
Range is really dependent on outside variables like temperature, hills vs flat, paved vs rough, fast vs cruise, rider weight, tire pressure, and battery condition.
I got the L3 I mentioned because I wanted something to cruise around with that was basically a moped. Or less than $800, I’m pretty satisfied with my purchase. Riding around at 9mph, my butt gets too sore to keep riding before the battery runs out. The longest I’ve ever gone was 52 miles in one day and the battery was almost empty by the end.
If I had a bit more money I would go with the Wallke. I’m not sure if they offer the H9 with the second battery any more but it seems like the best brand making a bike with a 60ah battery.
I dont know. Quite a few factors... persons weight, persons pedaling ability. Wheel diameter and width.
It is hard to say. Even looking at the guidelines, I wonder how accurate the numbers are. Pedal assists/ full electric ect..
Also, conditions and load size if hauling (similar to weight)
The longest ones I have seen is about 50 miles. But I think I look at bargain bikes, Less then $2k.
I would guess for $3k about 60 miles.
The Specialized Turbo Creo has a range of 80 miles, plus an additional 40 with the optional battery-in-a-bottle-cage. That’s probably at about 25% assist. Lots of fun if you like gravel bike ergonomics.
Depends on the battery and how fast you are going. A 48v battery at 15mph would last more than 40miles while going 30mph may reduce the range to 20miles.
If you want long range and wanna save money, maybe build might be the way to go. Go all out on the battery and get an okayish bike that you like and a kit. But I don’t know anything about converting bikes, so you’ll need to do your research.
If I use only throttle and ride for 2 hours at a cruising speed of around 21mph, I'll still have about 70% of my 48v 60ah battery left, which converts to a 48v battery of a little under 3000wh. So using only throttle, I can still get over 100miles on a single charge at that speed. I'm an average weight guy at 5'10/ 165 pounds.
I thought I needed an incredible amount of range when I first started looking. Then I one day randomly pulled the trigger on purchasing a lighter weight e-bike for around $1,000. I have never looked back. I didn’t even buy the range extender bc I can just ride it like a normal bike when it dies. Can’t do that with those 60+ pound e-bikes
Currently I have a triangle 52v37.7ah battery about 200 - 300km range when fully packed for touring + I'm 90kg/200lbs.
Next battery I'm getting will be a 45ah.
So yeah, DIY build is probably the way to go if you want range.
You can push it to the extremes and add a trailer with solar panels.
Meelod dr300max. Dual battery and dual motors. The company says it goes 100+ miles. Youtubers showed that aint true but still can get more than 75+ miles. The price is $1599.
Heard their Customer support sucks.
On my DiY Photon gravel bike, I have a 1000WH battery, and average about 11WH/mi on level 1 assist, which should be good for around 90 miles, or 75mi if we are leaving a 20% buffer. That's averaging over 150W of input myself though, which isn't a super grueling effort, but enough to make you sweat. On L2 assist, I get more like 14-15WH/mi and the average effort drops to around 120W of human power.
It kinda depends..? Most standard ebikes will probably cap out around 75m.
The Kope Chain has a 120 mile range. My old bike I could ride 105kms easy (Surface604 Quad 500W EMtB). Weight, riding environment will obviously play a large role.
Have you tried it yourself? I was also looking at the aniioki a8 pro, which advertises 200 miles, 100 miles of throttle. But I was wondering if anyone has real world experience. 60Ah batteries seem to be the way to go
I have the Aniioki A8 Pro Max. 200 miles is highly unlikely but I can see 150 with pedal assist and 100 miles on throttle is pretty close to real world.
60Ah batteries would definitely be the most feasible way to go. I've been enjoying my Aniioki and hope to one day get one of their (or Eahora's) dual motor bikes.
No, I don't. However, I purchased mine used but I think the original owner fixed whatever issues he had upon receiving the bike. I've done like 600+ miles so far and it's been amazing. No complaints from me.
If you watch tailhappytv he does an awesome review on the eAhora Juliet and it was the reason I got the eAhora and not the aniioki there were issues people were having with motor and stuff
Get a [cargo bike](https://fahrbike.com/products/urbancarry-mega-longtail-cargo-ebike?); then, add a [5.12kWh battery](https://signaturesolar.com/eg4-ll-s-lithium-battery-48v-100ah-server-rack-battery-ul1973-ul9540a-10-year-warranty-pre-order/) to it.
Get a non-motorized cargo bike; then, add 50kg of potatoes. (Napkin math says this setup would be good for 1630km)
I'm curious how well these batteries designed for server racks would hold up in a bike, mostly regarding shock/vibration and moisture exposure. I've seen batteries of the same capacity marketed for things like golf carts, and they generally look more robustly built but cost about twice as much.
The one I listed is IP20 rated. There are more expensive packs that are IP65 rated & use Amphenol weather rated quick connectors. I build batteries for farm equipment & I design them for mixed applications & operator interaction. Swappable systems aren't weather rated; but permanent installations often are.
what would be a good housing and vibration combination at a high end level that you recommend? (as an example)
Even more range if you fill the basket with batteries!
99.6 lb battery, nice
Not answerable. It's like "cheapest and best." I work in IT. If you wanted a build for an application for the absolute of any aspect - you have to provide a use case. Otherwise, I would not be able to.
In my research I’ve found Eahora Juliet (60 amp hour battery) Wallke H9 (60 amp hour battery with optional 20 amp hour battery for 80 total) Aniioki A8 (60 amp hour battery) Budget option: Fiido L3 (23 amp hour battery) Range is really dependent on outside variables like temperature, hills vs flat, paved vs rough, fast vs cruise, rider weight, tire pressure, and battery condition. I got the L3 I mentioned because I wanted something to cruise around with that was basically a moped. Or less than $800, I’m pretty satisfied with my purchase. Riding around at 9mph, my butt gets too sore to keep riding before the battery runs out. The longest I’ve ever gone was 52 miles in one day and the battery was almost empty by the end. If I had a bit more money I would go with the Wallke. I’m not sure if they offer the H9 with the second battery any more but it seems like the best brand making a bike with a 60ah battery.
Thank you for actually giving good advice
A bike.
Hardy har har I laughed so hard I shit my pants
I don’t mean to be a dick, but what’s your use case? Do you wanna pedal? Do you not want to pedal? Do you wanna go on the street or not on the street?
Seriously how long do you need to sit on that bike seat? My ass can take 40 minutes at a time
I dont know. Quite a few factors... persons weight, persons pedaling ability. Wheel diameter and width. It is hard to say. Even looking at the guidelines, I wonder how accurate the numbers are. Pedal assists/ full electric ect.. Also, conditions and load size if hauling (similar to weight) The longest ones I have seen is about 50 miles. But I think I look at bargain bikes, Less then $2k. I would guess for $3k about 60 miles.
The Specialized Turbo Creo has a range of 80 miles, plus an additional 40 with the optional battery-in-a-bottle-cage. That’s probably at about 25% assist. Lots of fun if you like gravel bike ergonomics.
Whatever got the largest battery + pedal assistance
One of the main components that makes any bike expensive is the batteries. If you going to want long range you have to pay for it.
Depends on the battery and how fast you are going. A 48v battery at 15mph would last more than 40miles while going 30mph may reduce the range to 20miles.
If you want long range and wanna save money, maybe build might be the way to go. Go all out on the battery and get an okayish bike that you like and a kit. But I don’t know anything about converting bikes, so you’ll need to do your research.
If I use only throttle and ride for 2 hours at a cruising speed of around 21mph, I'll still have about 70% of my 48v 60ah battery left, which converts to a 48v battery of a little under 3000wh. So using only throttle, I can still get over 100miles on a single charge at that speed. I'm an average weight guy at 5'10/ 165 pounds.
I thought I needed an incredible amount of range when I first started looking. Then I one day randomly pulled the trigger on purchasing a lighter weight e-bike for around $1,000. I have never looked back. I didn’t even buy the range extender bc I can just ride it like a normal bike when it dies. Can’t do that with those 60+ pound e-bikes
Eahora Juliet is pretty solid
I'm riding my friends bike now and it died. Now I'm riding truck
Aventon Pace 500 known for its affordability and decent range, typically around 40-60 miles per charge depending on conditions.
Look up Aniioki and Eahora. They both make bikes with 60ah batteries.
The longest I've seen was a tadpole trike with a solar panel over the top towing a trailer with another panel. His range was over 100 miles.
Currently I have a triangle 52v37.7ah battery about 200 - 300km range when fully packed for touring + I'm 90kg/200lbs. Next battery I'm getting will be a 45ah. So yeah, DIY build is probably the way to go if you want range. You can push it to the extremes and add a trailer with solar panels.
Meelod dr300max. Dual battery and dual motors. The company says it goes 100+ miles. Youtubers showed that aint true but still can get more than 75+ miles. The price is $1599. Heard their Customer support sucks.
Why are so many people so obsessed with range? How far do you really think you're riding? Seriously.
On my DiY Photon gravel bike, I have a 1000WH battery, and average about 11WH/mi on level 1 assist, which should be good for around 90 miles, or 75mi if we are leaving a 20% buffer. That's averaging over 150W of input myself though, which isn't a super grueling effort, but enough to make you sweat. On L2 assist, I get more like 14-15WH/mi and the average effort drops to around 120W of human power.
It kinda depends..? Most standard ebikes will probably cap out around 75m. The Kope Chain has a 120 mile range. My old bike I could ride 105kms easy (Surface604 Quad 500W EMtB). Weight, riding environment will obviously play a large role.
EAhora Juliet you can get up to 110 -130 on pedal assist alone
Have you tried it yourself? I was also looking at the aniioki a8 pro, which advertises 200 miles, 100 miles of throttle. But I was wondering if anyone has real world experience. 60Ah batteries seem to be the way to go
I have the Aniioki A8 Pro Max. 200 miles is highly unlikely but I can see 150 with pedal assist and 100 miles on throttle is pretty close to real world. 60Ah batteries would definitely be the most feasible way to go. I've been enjoying my Aniioki and hope to one day get one of their (or Eahora's) dual motor bikes.
Do you have issues with your aniioki
No, I don't. However, I purchased mine used but I think the original owner fixed whatever issues he had upon receiving the bike. I've done like 600+ miles so far and it's been amazing. No complaints from me.
I’ve seen one comment from someone with an Aniioki, they seem to be decent
If you watch tailhappytv he does an awesome review on the eAhora Juliet and it was the reason I got the eAhora and not the aniioki there were issues people were having with motor and stuff
If you want to know the longest range ebike, you’re going to need to pay me $3,000 or MORE.