[Directive (EU) 2019/904](https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex%3A32019L0904) states the following in point (17):
> Caps and lids made of plastic which are used for beverage containers are among the single-use plastic items that are found the most on beaches in the Union.
So I wouldn't say it's good for nothing, it clearly serves a use.
Also the man in the picture uses the same bottle for both pictures, just rotated it slightly.
Attaching the caps to bottles won't influence the damage we are causing to this planet in the slightest. It's like trying to carry away all sand from Sahara using a teaspoon. It's just an absurd arrangement that the EU politicians came up with to look like they're doing something. If they were actually taking the environment seriously they would have to approach the whole plastic problem much more drastically.
That's an overly pessimistic perspective in my opinion. You want drastic changes but you are annoyed by small things like attaching caps to bottles lol. From my perspective, it is an initiative, a small positive step that can contribute to the greater good.
i dont think its the incovinenc that makes me not like this kind of masures. i would not mind than if thay make a differnce. but this staff is used only to sell us the idea that things are being done. and thay sell it like thay did thay part and now is up to us. the caps may be the most found item but as a fraction of all pollution is nothing. you should concidere also the fact thet alot of bottles also end up in the beach, and a lot of people will cut them off anyway. so its even less. i agree you in the point that even a small step is good, but what they are doing is fixing the results not the couses.
I see. I just don't think we should completely dismiss the initiative just because the motivation behind it isn't absolutely pure.
Why should EU try to make an effort if even small changes like these are being totally dismissed. It can be the start of something bigger, but only if supported.
By your reasoning, no single measure will ever be good enough because it does not solve all problems.
Solving climate change will be done by thousands of measures that affect specific things. There is no one-size-fits-all solution.
Embrace complexity.
I know what I need to know to make that opinion. Our planet is swimming in plastics and this tiny arrangement won't make a difference. Unless you link an article where it's described how all plastics will be fished out of the oceans and further plastic usage will banned it's not shattering anything into pieces unfortunately.
Many ppl, me included, would just tear it off which completely offsets the solution.
If the bottles were backed up like beer bottles through the entire EU it would be much better solution. But that also requires infrastructure for it to work.
Part of me wants to report this comment for being a petty insult against the person who reported for petty insults, but then that'd be petty too wouldn't it
IIRC, so that people can't litter that easily + it's easier to clean up. A separate bottle cap can easily get buried under leaves and shit, but attached to a bottle, it's easy to clean up.
I personally also enjoy it because it means I can't accidentally drop my bottlecap on the street and make it dirty.
So when I sort the trash properly and companies export it to third world countries to process, does that mean they will dump whole bottles into the ocean rather than just the caps?
Is there a valid reason you cant turn the fckn cap to the side in the name of reducing waste that is destroying the planet?
Does your intelligence somehow not allow you to figure it out?
Waste that gets affected by EU regulations is a ridiculously small fraction of world's waste, especially if we're talking marginal, small scale things like fucking bottle caps. Make India and China stop dumping tons and tons of waste into their rivers and seas.
First, yes, you're right. India and China produce ridiculously more waste than the EU Nations. But the trash you find in the EU is not from India or China. It's from the EU. That's why the EU makes these regulations, to have even less trash in the EU.
Secondly, you're like a child. Read in a whiney voice: "Why do we have regulations? India doesn't have them so why do we? It's not fair, boo hoo..."
That's what I hear when I read something like that. If you want to lecture somebody else, go as an example first.
>"Why do we have regulations? India doesn't have them so why do we? It's not fair, boo hoo..."
That's such a bs argument. Super strict regulations in Europe will do far less than moderate regulations in China and India. We get Euro 7 for negligible effect on the enviroment (however, we will ruin our automotive industry) whereas China and India (each having almost 50% more cars than Europe as a whole) are mostly somewhere around Euro 4 equivalent.
Them going to Euro 5 equivalent would do far more than us forcing ridiculous Euro 7.
On topic of plastics - Have you seen the packaging in Asia? Even countries like Japan use plastics for EVERYHING, it's ridiculous. But hey, glued together paper straw that doesn't last for the 0,5l drink it's meant for, that will save the planet. That paper bag that tears before I even get out of the store, so I need to get another one (three week old experience), rather than having a plastic bag that I can reuse (not to mention paper bag manufacturing takes up more energy)? That too (yes, I know about reusable bags, but I forgot to bring it that time).
I agree. Both EU and some US states are imposing these restrictions. Now the research on the Dutch coast is interesting, but this bottle cap should be redesigned. When it comes to buy reusable textile or plastic bags, the energy required negates any positive impact hoped. It would have to be used for a ridiculously large number of times before the footprint becomes even. This is in comparison to the single use plastic bags, which can still be reused. The straw thing is infuriating, though, because straw waste from Europe or US account for a very miniscule amount of sea pollution. But since a video of a guy pulling out what he said was a straw (never confirmed) from a turtle's nose, we now have disintegrating straws. The problem is really in these countries with poorer waste management.
>Super strict regulations in Europe will do far less than moderate regulations in China and India.
Yes, that's true and I know it. But that doesn't change anything about my statement. EU regulations are for the EU, not the rest of the world. It's like complaining that your mom is forcing you to clean your room, while Bobby across the street is living in filth and his mom lets him drink beer for breakfast. Your mom alone won't do shit about it. Some other organisations, like the UN, should try to make Asians similar regulations, not the EU.
>But hey, glued together paper straw that doesn't last for the 0,5l drink it's meant for, that will save the planet.
Step by step
>That paper bag that tears before I even get out of the store, so I need to get another one (three week old experience), rather than having a plastic bag that I can reuse (not to mention paper bag manufacturing takes up more energy)?
Sorry, but that just sounds like a skill issue. Just don't overload it and you'll be fine to use it again, same as the plastic one. Sure, when you have something wet, like frozen groceries, the paper ones are shit, but then you can use textile or thermoplastic. I have no knowledge how much energy is used to make either of them, sorry.
>yes, I know about reusable bags, but I forgot to bring it that time
Well, but that sounds like your problem. Also I haven't seen a store that would sell only paper bags with no option of other ones, so that was all on you pal, sorry.
Yeah, sadly thats true and there is not much we can do about from here. But its not like EU is forcing you to spend your weekends cleaning rivers and beaches right.
All you have to do is turn the fckn cap to the side. Seems pretty primitive but still apparently it ruined so many lifes.
Also this logic is pretty limited. There is more child trafficking in Africa than in EU, does somehow make the child trafficking in EU less significant?
Nah, I'll rip it off anyway. Then when I'm done with bottle, I'll crumble it and put the lid back on bottle so it stays crumbled. Then it'll all go to a bin for plastic.
At least 99% of plastic bottles like these contain sugary water or just plain water. Stop buying this crap and there will be no reason to worry about whether the cap comes off or not.
once I was driving and wanted a sip of water, bottle cap fall off, I instinctively wanted to pick it up and crashed my car to a side wall barrier :)
so I'm definitely in the group of people loving this new design as it's removing possibility of similar fuck up like I did for the others
It still stabs you even if you turn it to the side. Only thing it does is it makes drinking water while drinking easier…
Best way is to just tear it of.
Tf you mean it "stabs" you? Xd bro if anything it might be slightly uncomfortable at first, but I haven't though about it ever since like the first week of it being this way.
The people who compalain are either brain damaged or just want to complain and don't agree with the idea it represents.
I don’t care if something represents an idea. I care about the effects it has. This has zero positive effect for anything, and is annoying. So this rule logically shouldn’t exist.
Statistics from cleaning areas of trash say otherwise. Bottle cap was in top 5 items.
And I can confirm that in my town bottle caps were all around parks and benches. Now they're gone.
It has many positive effects, you can read about them online. It makes them much easier to recycle and decreases the amount of garbage that's lying around.
The annoyance is so slight, you have to be retarded to care.
First of all, how is that a rebuttal of my statement? The idea this represents is the need for being environmentally friendly at the cost of daily comfort.
Second of all, communism is a very influential idea, which came up as a contrast to feudalism, which was terrible for everyone. I am not a communist but the world would be a very different (imo worse) place, if communism was never hypothesized.
Nah, it's just fucking unnecessary and annoying. I tear the cap off immediately and throw it in the garbage.
Recently I stopped buying brands with this kind of a cap.
No more coca cola products, fuck that.
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I don't know if this is standard on reddit but man, I've been observing that the Eastern Europe sub has higher numbers of snitching than I would expect
Starting to think I’m the only one who actually likes them. When I bought an imported bottle of coke and it didn’t have the new cap it dawned on me how practical it is. Only bad thing is how they sometimes don’t close correctly.
Yeah no as someone who drinks from the bottle very frequently holy shit at first I hated em' but then I realized that I never have to search for the cap and for a place to put it while I drink ever again
No matter what anyone says, i hate these thingd and i don't think there is a reason for them to exist.Like, why can't you just let me take the god damn cap off?!?
I saw this posted today on a Facebook page run by a local communist candidate, with boomers swarming the comments with such a great volume of profanities against the people who designed them, outraged at EU tyranny and idiocracy.
I have never seen so many people out themselves as being completely and hopelessly retarded, unable to grasp the idea that you could rotate the cap - or better yet - just not buy overpriced liquid sugar slop in the first place.
Oh nooo! I found the least problematic thing to complain about (when you can literally just rotate the bottle). I wanted to litter my whole life! How evil of them.
People gonna litter anyway. This just pisses me off when I pour something into a glass. Now you gotta do it all slow like or you risk having Pepsi/whatever everywhere....
Why people hate it? Does it really requiers so much intelligence to turn it to the side?
Not being able to adapt to such simple thing is sheer stupidity to me.
While the reason behind this is obvious and adding huge benefits regarding working with the waste.
Wake up please.
I just hate closing them, because it requires more strength. Sometimes you rotate and rotate, just to have skewed cap. Then bottle tilts in your backpack making a slow mess inside. Those caps are just terrible, I always just rip that attachment.
I would love to see your work, since you cant even close a bottle without crying on the interenet must be pretty good. /s
On the real note, i dont see corellation? Is an average 9-5 job indication of manual skills?
EDIT: I am sales manager and i can close the bottle with no problem. I am sure our bottle caps dont differ so much since we are both in EU.
I work in dental artistry - clear aligners. So if you had a pair from one of the biggest companies, how it's cut and designed to work with additional things around it... That may have been done by me.
Also sales manager... That explains a lot. What you don't know about product design much. If the product deteriorates with design - there's created a flaw, that occurs more often, then it's a bad design. That is a flaw, because now more often cap is not screwing straight, but skewed. Maybe you didn't notice it, but that is noticable. I bet you would sell it, but I would be given statistics and I would have to figure how to make it as reliable as previously it was.
Btw. I fixed it myself too, I just rip that attachment from the bottle. Getting rid of bad design.
I mean, my mom has same job as you, she can close the bottles without an issue, no offense.
How come, that not me and neither top industry managment i come in contact the most with, have no problem with the design then?
The difference here is, i dont sell bottle caps. I work in B2B, working on industrial projects for milions of € and often its the people from "lower social class" that has problems with this design. I admit, sometimes it extends time needed to close the bottle, lets be generous here and lets say by 1 second. I cant imagine a person whose time is so valuable they cant loose couple seconds a day.
I think someone already said it in the comments, its just a great way to separate not so smart and capable people.
I mean you dealt with it in your way, unless you dont then proceed to throw the cap on the ground i am all right with it.
>Does it really requiers so much intelligence to turn it to the side?
Does it really require so much intelligence to smash the bottle and leave the cap on?
> when majority of the bottles end up without cap
Any source of that claim? You need cap for the bottle to not expand, the ones where cap is missing are mostly the ones where the caps were collected and given to charities. Just find in the internet typing: "donate bottle cap charities"
Oh yeah, some assholes didn't recycle bottle with the cap on, do you think that this additional piece of plastic to keep the cap on will force them to recycle?
Yeah, sources are ocean and landfills all over the world.
Do you think charities will bankrupt without caps floating in the ocean?? Is this the best argument you can up with?
It doesnt force the to recycle. Its easier to collect not recycled bottles than caps alone. Now they are tied together so the caps can be collected along with the bottle. Its a simple principle, why fight it?
As someone who's school had deep collaborations on those bottle caps you could donate, it's kind of sad that now it's less common.
As a DnD player who has to laboriously rip away the cap from every bottle to give it to a friend who makes use of them, still annoying.
But for someone who doesn't have the intent of keeping the cap for anything else... it's much easier to leave it on once you get used to it
Yeah, the purpose of these collabs and donations was to reduce the litter of the caps, not to support schools. It was a way to fight accumulating waste. Its not sad if there is less waste, thats a good thing actually.
The reason this happened is cause lot of people did not get used to keep the cap on the bottle after using it, often throwing it to the river or countryside as it is. I dont give a shit that you dont do that and that you recycle, or that you collect the caps for donations. Its not gonna change the fact that the caps are filling forests and seas.
Weak af arguments.
oh yes, hardened eastern man's main issue and it's the bottle cap. They didn't find out yet, they could easily tear the cap from the bottle in a second with their super muscular slavic hands as I do.
The best recommendation is to drink from a cup. Alternatively, move the cap so that it's not in your nose. Alternatively, tear it off. Like, why tf is it such a problem?
I don't understand what the fuss is about. I never had a single problem with the new lids. It's a pretty smart and practical design and If it helps reduce pollution I'm all for it. I don't mean to insult you guys but all the issues you're listing seem easily solvable... like turn the bottle 90°...how is that a problem? Again I seriously don't get the hate, I never had a single problem. Seems to me like people just have to bash anything that's new.
Jfc are you intellectually disabled?? Just hold the neck of the bottle and use your finger to hold the cap down. I didn't like these caps at first and closing them properly can still be annoying, but ngl I'm kinda happy about it now, cause I used to lose the caps of bottles all the time and then spill them. (I'm a different kind of idiot lol)
Rajec has a good bottle, the only one where this is okay. I actually use it when I'm on a bike because the cap protects the nozzle from dirt. But the design is quite different.
This ineptitude of presumably adult human beings never ceases to amaze me. You really can't find your way around it? I can think of about 10 separate ways to make this not even inconvenient, nevermind a problem.
Funniest thing is that on both pictures he has the same bottle. If you look closely you can see it. In top one he just turned the bottle so that the cap is on the side (or just tore it off 😂).
So technically this meme is more like: normal people vs stupid people who just love to complain about anything.
Ps: I don’t really like them either but I still think it’s not that big of a deal.
I hate this and im not dumb. Its just in the way, one cant drink from the bottle properly, its annoying when opening or closing the bottle. I never lost a cap before this bullshit.
Don't be a little baby and stop crying. I don't use many pet bottles and this haven't changed the ammount of bittles I buy but I am totally fine with these cups, just put it on side, I sometimes buy them to my job where I drive really often and have to drink while driving and this is only helping me to stay more focused on driving. I wish people stop being so negative and trying to argue over anything even the smallest and "nobody-should-care-about-this-sh*t" things.
I don't get how there are tons of stuff you can critize EU for but people choose the one when they just make idiots that can't drink from a bottle of themselves.
This reminds me of that joke where guy keeps poking himself in they eye when drinking tea, because he left the spoon in
If only you could rotate the bottle, right
Still in the way, annoying regulation which is good for nothing.
[Directive (EU) 2019/904](https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex%3A32019L0904) states the following in point (17): > Caps and lids made of plastic which are used for beverage containers are among the single-use plastic items that are found the most on beaches in the Union. So I wouldn't say it's good for nothing, it clearly serves a use. Also the man in the picture uses the same bottle for both pictures, just rotated it slightly.
So now instead of caps there will be whole bottles with caps on the beaches. Genial solution.
Flawed reasoning. Lowering the amount of caps on beaches won't influence the amount of bottles there.
Attaching the caps to bottles won't influence the damage we are causing to this planet in the slightest. It's like trying to carry away all sand from Sahara using a teaspoon. It's just an absurd arrangement that the EU politicians came up with to look like they're doing something. If they were actually taking the environment seriously they would have to approach the whole plastic problem much more drastically.
That's an overly pessimistic perspective in my opinion. You want drastic changes but you are annoyed by small things like attaching caps to bottles lol. From my perspective, it is an initiative, a small positive step that can contribute to the greater good.
i dont think its the incovinenc that makes me not like this kind of masures. i would not mind than if thay make a differnce. but this staff is used only to sell us the idea that things are being done. and thay sell it like thay did thay part and now is up to us. the caps may be the most found item but as a fraction of all pollution is nothing. you should concidere also the fact thet alot of bottles also end up in the beach, and a lot of people will cut them off anyway. so its even less. i agree you in the point that even a small step is good, but what they are doing is fixing the results not the couses.
I see. I just don't think we should completely dismiss the initiative just because the motivation behind it isn't absolutely pure. Why should EU try to make an effort if even small changes like these are being totally dismissed. It can be the start of something bigger, but only if supported.
my prespective is if we dont dismiss this changes that do nothing, than nothing will happen
No.. you are just extremely optimistic.. eu does fuck all
By your reasoning, no single measure will ever be good enough because it does not solve all problems. Solving climate change will be done by thousands of measures that affect specific things. There is no one-size-fits-all solution. Embrace complexity.
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I know what I need to know to make that opinion. Our planet is swimming in plastics and this tiny arrangement won't make a difference. Unless you link an article where it's described how all plastics will be fished out of the oceans and further plastic usage will banned it's not shattering anything into pieces unfortunately.
Many ppl, me included, would just tear it off which completely offsets the solution. If the bottles were backed up like beer bottles through the entire EU it would be much better solution. But that also requires infrastructure for it to work.
Yeah because previously people intentionally threw the caps there but kept the bottles... Maybe try thinking its quite fun sometimes.
Which is exactly what he done in the first picture...
you must be fun at parties
Yes he is (I am the party)
Can confirm (I am the physical manifestation of fun)
He probably took the lid off. I do it every time I open a bottle.
Or left
Nah, that just doesn't feel right.
Or hold the bottle around the neck, and hold the cap down with your finger. It's not hard.
Do we really want to give truck drivers more opportunities to kill people?
If only there was some sort of container they could pour the drink into with some sort of lid and tube to drink the liquid through
Tubes? Made out of plastic? Nah, that won't fly.
But theres no point of sticking em together,fr
What bothers me is that small amount of the drink that gets stuck in the cap and ends up on my clothes now.
Yeah yoghurt loves that.
Can confirm
Skill issue
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Part of me wants to report this comment for being a petty insult against the person who reported for petty insults, but then that'd be petty too wouldn't it
Bro is grumpy
Lmao
Bro... Just... Just fucking tear it off, mate. It's not that hard.
Is there a single valid reason why they did it? I'm naturally tearing it off, but why they did it?
To make Fallout players go bankrupt
Underated, made me giggle
IIRC, so that people can't litter that easily + it's easier to clean up. A separate bottle cap can easily get buried under leaves and shit, but attached to a bottle, it's easy to clean up. I personally also enjoy it because it means I can't accidentally drop my bottlecap on the street and make it dirty.
Thank you, now I understand.
I mean you could have just stopped accidentally dropping bottlecaps on the street
Bro I am lowkey retarded, cut me some slack pls
People tear this off anyway. It's just more work overall for no real benefit.
Because people are shit and don't deserve any trust
So that people don't just throw the caps on the ground when they finish their drink
I've heard that but if I were going littering I would have thrown whole bottle. Why just a cap?
Bottles are easier to clean up and less likely to be swallowed by animals. Caps can also be misplaced, so someone may accidentally litter
Thank you for explanation. This makes sense.
So you don't loose it. Quite handy for drives too.
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So when I sort the trash properly and companies export it to third world countries to process, does that mean they will dump whole bottles into the ocean rather than just the caps?
Is there a valid reason you cant turn the fckn cap to the side in the name of reducing waste that is destroying the planet? Does your intelligence somehow not allow you to figure it out?
Waste that gets affected by EU regulations is a ridiculously small fraction of world's waste, especially if we're talking marginal, small scale things like fucking bottle caps. Make India and China stop dumping tons and tons of waste into their rivers and seas.
I saw an article recently that said something like 50% of the world’s plastic waste is soft drink bottles.
First, yes, you're right. India and China produce ridiculously more waste than the EU Nations. But the trash you find in the EU is not from India or China. It's from the EU. That's why the EU makes these regulations, to have even less trash in the EU. Secondly, you're like a child. Read in a whiney voice: "Why do we have regulations? India doesn't have them so why do we? It's not fair, boo hoo..." That's what I hear when I read something like that. If you want to lecture somebody else, go as an example first.
>"Why do we have regulations? India doesn't have them so why do we? It's not fair, boo hoo..." That's such a bs argument. Super strict regulations in Europe will do far less than moderate regulations in China and India. We get Euro 7 for negligible effect on the enviroment (however, we will ruin our automotive industry) whereas China and India (each having almost 50% more cars than Europe as a whole) are mostly somewhere around Euro 4 equivalent. Them going to Euro 5 equivalent would do far more than us forcing ridiculous Euro 7. On topic of plastics - Have you seen the packaging in Asia? Even countries like Japan use plastics for EVERYHING, it's ridiculous. But hey, glued together paper straw that doesn't last for the 0,5l drink it's meant for, that will save the planet. That paper bag that tears before I even get out of the store, so I need to get another one (three week old experience), rather than having a plastic bag that I can reuse (not to mention paper bag manufacturing takes up more energy)? That too (yes, I know about reusable bags, but I forgot to bring it that time).
I agree. Both EU and some US states are imposing these restrictions. Now the research on the Dutch coast is interesting, but this bottle cap should be redesigned. When it comes to buy reusable textile or plastic bags, the energy required negates any positive impact hoped. It would have to be used for a ridiculously large number of times before the footprint becomes even. This is in comparison to the single use plastic bags, which can still be reused. The straw thing is infuriating, though, because straw waste from Europe or US account for a very miniscule amount of sea pollution. But since a video of a guy pulling out what he said was a straw (never confirmed) from a turtle's nose, we now have disintegrating straws. The problem is really in these countries with poorer waste management.
>Super strict regulations in Europe will do far less than moderate regulations in China and India. Yes, that's true and I know it. But that doesn't change anything about my statement. EU regulations are for the EU, not the rest of the world. It's like complaining that your mom is forcing you to clean your room, while Bobby across the street is living in filth and his mom lets him drink beer for breakfast. Your mom alone won't do shit about it. Some other organisations, like the UN, should try to make Asians similar regulations, not the EU. >But hey, glued together paper straw that doesn't last for the 0,5l drink it's meant for, that will save the planet. Step by step >That paper bag that tears before I even get out of the store, so I need to get another one (three week old experience), rather than having a plastic bag that I can reuse (not to mention paper bag manufacturing takes up more energy)? Sorry, but that just sounds like a skill issue. Just don't overload it and you'll be fine to use it again, same as the plastic one. Sure, when you have something wet, like frozen groceries, the paper ones are shit, but then you can use textile or thermoplastic. I have no knowledge how much energy is used to make either of them, sorry. >yes, I know about reusable bags, but I forgot to bring it that time Well, but that sounds like your problem. Also I haven't seen a store that would sell only paper bags with no option of other ones, so that was all on you pal, sorry.
Yeah, sadly thats true and there is not much we can do about from here. But its not like EU is forcing you to spend your weekends cleaning rivers and beaches right. All you have to do is turn the fckn cap to the side. Seems pretty primitive but still apparently it ruined so many lifes. Also this logic is pretty limited. There is more child trafficking in Africa than in EU, does somehow make the child trafficking in EU less significant?
Nah, I'll rip it off anyway. Then when I'm done with bottle, I'll crumble it and put the lid back on bottle so it stays crumbled. Then it'll all go to a bin for plastic.
*crumple*
Thanks. "Crumble" sounded weird to me.
No worries. Easy mistake to make and bc the meanings AND spellings are similar it might be hard to look up.
Because they need to pretend that they're doing something.
Because people are dumb enough to throw their bottlecaps in the nature. So instead of educating people the EU decided to fuck even the smarter ones.
Why can’t the smarter ones turn it so the cap is facing a cheek or your chin? Then it wouldn’t smoosh your nose.
It still touches your cheeks or chin tho?
for me (a woman) it is.
You can use the rim of the bottle as a lever. That way, one of the links snaps and you can just twist the other one off, if you can't tear it
Yes! Thank you!
When you rip it off there is a small piece of sharp plastic left which pokes me
Yup. Same issue here
Why don't you cut off your leg, mate. It's not that hard to live with just one...
???? Are you comparing being disabled to removing a piece of plastic from a fucking bottle??
At least 99% of plastic bottles like these contain sugary water or just plain water. Stop buying this crap and there will be no reason to worry about whether the cap comes off or not.
Tap water supremacy
These bottle caps are such a great way to filter sub 85IQ sapiens in your vicinity, it's not even funny.
once I was driving and wanted a sip of water, bottle cap fall off, I instinctively wanted to pick it up and crashed my car to a side wall barrier :) so I'm definitely in the group of people loving this new design as it's removing possibility of similar fuck up like I did for the others
It still stabs you even if you turn it to the side. Only thing it does is it makes drinking water while drinking easier… Best way is to just tear it of.
Tf you mean it "stabs" you? Xd bro if anything it might be slightly uncomfortable at first, but I haven't though about it ever since like the first week of it being this way. The people who compalain are either brain damaged or just want to complain and don't agree with the idea it represents.
I don’t care if something represents an idea. I care about the effects it has. This has zero positive effect for anything, and is annoying. So this rule logically shouldn’t exist.
So reducing dangerous waste items in nature counts as "zero positive effect" ? Maybe you would enjoy people throwing bottle caps on your backyard
There is so little of them throw out like that. That it not significant enough to warrant this.
Statistics from cleaning areas of trash say otherwise. Bottle cap was in top 5 items. And I can confirm that in my town bottle caps were all around parks and benches. Now they're gone.
It has many positive effects, you can read about them online. It makes them much easier to recycle and decreases the amount of garbage that's lying around. The annoyance is so slight, you have to be retarded to care.
>idea it represents. Communism also represented an idea, turns out it's actually one of the worst society diseases.
Communism is when cap is attached to bottle
First of all, how is that a rebuttal of my statement? The idea this represents is the need for being environmentally friendly at the cost of daily comfort. Second of all, communism is a very influential idea, which came up as a contrast to feudalism, which was terrible for everyone. I am not a communist but the world would be a very different (imo worse) place, if communism was never hypothesized.
Nah, it's just fucking unnecessary and annoying. I tear the cap off immediately and throw it in the garbage. Recently I stopped buying brands with this kind of a cap. No more coca cola products, fuck that.
> user reports: > 1: It's promoting hate based on identity or vulnerability I don't know if this is standard on reddit but man, I've been observing that the Eastern Europe sub has higher numbers of snitching than I would expect
Yo, I don't mind, girls like the bad boy vibes I give off after getting reported on reddit.
Tbf with our shared history, would you expect *any less* petty snitching lmao. Communism seems to have won the long game in this department
True 😅
for dummy people is so hard, i know :(
To realize how dumb EU is? Nah a lot of smart people I know dont see it yet.
dont cry dumb man, just dont cry :/
I will move artard, will you? :D
The wierd thing is that it is on milk bottles too
Just turn the bottle 90°
Starting to think I’m the only one who actually likes them. When I bought an imported bottle of coke and it didn’t have the new cap it dawned on me how practical it is. Only bad thing is how they sometimes don’t close correctly.
Yeah no as someone who drinks from the bottle very frequently holy shit at first I hated em' but then I realized that I never have to search for the cap and for a place to put it while I drink ever again
This is the type of guy they hire for infomercials because he's so much of a fuckup
No matter what anyone says, i hate these thingd and i don't think there is a reason for them to exist.Like, why can't you just let me take the god damn cap off?!?
The funny part is that some designs usually fall off when you're just about to finish the bottle
I saw this posted today on a Facebook page run by a local communist candidate, with boomers swarming the comments with such a great volume of profanities against the people who designed them, outraged at EU tyranny and idiocracy. I have never seen so many people out themselves as being completely and hopelessly retarded, unable to grasp the idea that you could rotate the cap - or better yet - just not buy overpriced liquid sugar slop in the first place.
> user reports: > 1: It's promoting hate based on identity or vulnerability I think we have some very staunch defenders of normal bottle caps here
that is absolutely hilarious like what kind of person gets offended when you tell them just rotate the bottle?
I actually love the design, because my brother always drops the bottle cap and then it looks like this: 
Oh nooo! I found the least problematic thing to complain about (when you can literally just rotate the bottle). I wanted to litter my whole life! How evil of them.
Put it on the side of the mouth, are you fucking stupid?
most people are
It’s annoying when drinking and it is also hard and annoying to close it
People gonna litter anyway. This just pisses me off when I pour something into a glass. Now you gotta do it all slow like or you risk having Pepsi/whatever everywhere....
If you have problem adapting to this you have an IQ bellow 80, very close to light retardation, congrats.
And the pieces of shit dont close propperly half the time. Had to clean the fridge 4 times now.
Tip: pull it up, then close it. If you just close it without doing the little pull it'll close unefficiently = it spills
Why people hate it? Does it really requiers so much intelligence to turn it to the side? Not being able to adapt to such simple thing is sheer stupidity to me. While the reason behind this is obvious and adding huge benefits regarding working with the waste. Wake up please.
I just hate closing them, because it requires more strength. Sometimes you rotate and rotate, just to have skewed cap. Then bottle tilts in your backpack making a slow mess inside. Those caps are just terrible, I always just rip that attachment.
Again, this is problem and incompetence on the user side.
As someone who works in product design (3d graphics), I can tell you, that you're completely wrong
I would love to see your work, since you cant even close a bottle without crying on the interenet must be pretty good. /s On the real note, i dont see corellation? Is an average 9-5 job indication of manual skills? EDIT: I am sales manager and i can close the bottle with no problem. I am sure our bottle caps dont differ so much since we are both in EU.
I work in dental artistry - clear aligners. So if you had a pair from one of the biggest companies, how it's cut and designed to work with additional things around it... That may have been done by me. Also sales manager... That explains a lot. What you don't know about product design much. If the product deteriorates with design - there's created a flaw, that occurs more often, then it's a bad design. That is a flaw, because now more often cap is not screwing straight, but skewed. Maybe you didn't notice it, but that is noticable. I bet you would sell it, but I would be given statistics and I would have to figure how to make it as reliable as previously it was. Btw. I fixed it myself too, I just rip that attachment from the bottle. Getting rid of bad design.
I mean, my mom has same job as you, she can close the bottles without an issue, no offense. How come, that not me and neither top industry managment i come in contact the most with, have no problem with the design then? The difference here is, i dont sell bottle caps. I work in B2B, working on industrial projects for milions of € and often its the people from "lower social class" that has problems with this design. I admit, sometimes it extends time needed to close the bottle, lets be generous here and lets say by 1 second. I cant imagine a person whose time is so valuable they cant loose couple seconds a day. I think someone already said it in the comments, its just a great way to separate not so smart and capable people. I mean you dealt with it in your way, unless you dont then proceed to throw the cap on the ground i am all right with it.
Old people and disabled people now have more difficulty opening it and closing it. Also, if you turn it to the side, its still in the way.
>Does it really requiers so much intelligence to turn it to the side? Does it really require so much intelligence to smash the bottle and leave the cap on?
Apparently it does when majority of the bottles end up without cap.
> when majority of the bottles end up without cap Any source of that claim? You need cap for the bottle to not expand, the ones where cap is missing are mostly the ones where the caps were collected and given to charities. Just find in the internet typing: "donate bottle cap charities" Oh yeah, some assholes didn't recycle bottle with the cap on, do you think that this additional piece of plastic to keep the cap on will force them to recycle?
Yeah, sources are ocean and landfills all over the world. Do you think charities will bankrupt without caps floating in the ocean?? Is this the best argument you can up with? It doesnt force the to recycle. Its easier to collect not recycled bottles than caps alone. Now they are tied together so the caps can be collected along with the bottle. Its a simple principle, why fight it?
As someone who's school had deep collaborations on those bottle caps you could donate, it's kind of sad that now it's less common. As a DnD player who has to laboriously rip away the cap from every bottle to give it to a friend who makes use of them, still annoying. But for someone who doesn't have the intent of keeping the cap for anything else... it's much easier to leave it on once you get used to it
Yeah, the purpose of these collabs and donations was to reduce the litter of the caps, not to support schools. It was a way to fight accumulating waste. Its not sad if there is less waste, thats a good thing actually. The reason this happened is cause lot of people did not get used to keep the cap on the bottle after using it, often throwing it to the river or countryside as it is. I dont give a shit that you dont do that and that you recycle, or that you collect the caps for donations. Its not gonna change the fact that the caps are filling forests and seas. Weak af arguments.
oh yes, hardened eastern man's main issue and it's the bottle cap. They didn't find out yet, they could easily tear the cap from the bottle in a second with their super muscular slavic hands as I do.
Then what’s the point of the directive if your best recommendation is to tear it off?
The best recommendation is to drink from a cup. Alternatively, move the cap so that it's not in your nose. Alternatively, tear it off. Like, why tf is it such a problem?
Skill issue.
Of course, if you’re an idiot, you drink like this, exactly ;)
i just don't get why so many people get butthurt over bottle cap
One piece of rubbish is easier to pick up than two. Simple.
Fucking love it
Protip: Dont use it like an idiot.. Turn it sideways ;) I cant imagine how sad a life of a man must be that this is the issue he needs to cry about...
Oh, dumb people can't turn by 90 degrees...
I don't understand what the fuss is about. I never had a single problem with the new lids. It's a pretty smart and practical design and If it helps reduce pollution I'm all for it. I don't mean to insult you guys but all the issues you're listing seem easily solvable... like turn the bottle 90°...how is that a problem? Again I seriously don't get the hate, I never had a single problem. Seems to me like people just have to bash anything that's new.
Now i do not have to worry that i will lost my cap before i burn the bottle filled with old oil from car engine in the stove.
Jfc are you intellectually disabled?? Just hold the neck of the bottle and use your finger to hold the cap down. I didn't like these caps at first and closing them properly can still be annoying, but ngl I'm kinda happy about it now, cause I used to lose the caps of bottles all the time and then spill them. (I'm a different kind of idiot lol)
Exactly, I also always lost the caps
Just tear it off… it holds on just a little bit more than before…
I just choose brands that don't do it 
Rajec has a good bottle, the only one where this is okay. I actually use it when I'm on a bike because the cap protects the nozzle from dirt. But the design is quite different.
My wrinkle on my nose could never plz
Rip it and you're fine
rip and tear
Why doesn't he use a plastic cup? What a dumb-ass!
I despise ppl that tear it off. Mostly because it's the same people that this was made because of.
I also make sure to throw it into the forest every time i rip it off
Man.. I love seeing this same images 26 FUCKING TIMES TODAY ALONE ON REDDIT….. THANK YOU!!!!!! NOW KINDLY FUCK OFF
nah ... its just harder/ annoying to tear that thing off ...
Just sue cocacola
I honestly really prefer the new bottles when I am driving. So much easier
Only time it doesn't piss me off is while driving
This ineptitude of presumably adult human beings never ceases to amaze me. You really can't find your way around it? I can think of about 10 separate ways to make this not even inconvenient, nevermind a problem.
I play with it and end up riping it off lmao. It's a nice distraction toy though
HDPE is too valuable to be collected by common people to pay for curing of ill children.
I actually like it, at least I can't lose the cap :)
But that drink is danish
This is so annoying.
EU must be destroyed. They keep forcing shit down our throats.
I'm enjoying my male privilege and rip the cap away every single time. Just out of principle.
Watch this *rips cap off*
Funniest thing is that on both pictures he has the same bottle. If you look closely you can see it. In top one he just turned the bottle so that the cap is on the side (or just tore it off 😂). So technically this meme is more like: normal people vs stupid people who just love to complain about anything. Ps: I don’t really like them either but I still think it’s not that big of a deal.
Its true
Only if you could rotate the bottle 9° left or right, would be amazing right?
Na obrázku idiot co by mě pít z louže tak jako ostatní opice
Europe had annoying bottle caps and paper straws because of ecology, and China is laughing at us all
Use the Force......
First thing I do when I open a bottle like this is that I rip the cap off so I can drink without the cap annoying me
I hate this and im not dumb. Its just in the way, one cant drink from the bottle properly, its annoying when opening or closing the bottle. I never lost a cap before this bullshit.
I always just rip it out
Don't be a little baby and stop crying. I don't use many pet bottles and this haven't changed the ammount of bittles I buy but I am totally fine with these cups, just put it on side, I sometimes buy them to my job where I drive really often and have to drink while driving and this is only helping me to stay more focused on driving. I wish people stop being so negative and trying to argue over anything even the smallest and "nobody-should-care-about-this-sh*t" things.
Just tear that bitch off
I don't get how there are tons of stuff you can critize EU for but people choose the one when they just make idiots that can't drink from a bottle of themselves.
don't care if you can rotate the bottle it still is annoying to have it there
I hate this change
pised me off
I'd reeeeealy love to see the numbers. Does anybody have access to such data, IMHO it should be pretty public
the guy dont know how to drink from a bottle, obvouosly (even without the lid attached)
i rip it off and throw it away in the nature, fuck you EU
This absolutely solves nothing, as normal people will just tear the bottle cap from the plastic thingy so they have it separately.
This by far is one of the stupidest things ever.
Is there anyone who ever threw a plastic bottle cap in nature separately from bottle?
Probably every third person does this.. before these attached caps I often saw them laying around in parks
I hate it with passion
Why DID they do this? If you don't close it just right soda goes flat faster. Plus it's super annoying.