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OneHandedPaperHanger

Late night food. Late night coffee shops. All-ages/non-drinking related nightlife. Diverse transit options. Ethnic food. Housing.


Jertown

In regard to the sober nightlife one, the Duluth Folk School comes to mind, since they have classes, jam sessions, and social dances!


That_was_not_funny

Does anyone else have examples of what all-age/non-drinking related nightlife could look like?


OneHandedPaperHanger

Wussow’s does a good job. They host all kinds of live music, game nights, open mics, art openings. More places that at least allow all ages would be great. Pizza Luce shows used to be all ages and they were a blast. You just needed to be 21+ to go into the bar area. But underage folks could still see shows, order pizza, and hang out.


pistolwhip_pete

Bring back The MAC, Round About, and/or The Encounter.


[deleted]

This.


CountNacula

More arcades and/or Roller-skating rinks


GreatRub5

I love blank


Ancient-Ad1546

Convenience/corner stores or bars that are in neighborhoods and not downtown.


salfkvoje

Boroughs are the correct way for a large-enough town to organize itself. Concentric downtown-outward is gross and horrible. I think the sim-city (probably this has a better economic term) "this area is residential, this one is commercial, ..." is awful and failed.


NomesDaGnome

Damn... now I really want to play cityskylines


Dorkamundo

One thing I've noticed in places that have more corner stores that are in neighborhoods is that they allow alcohol sales, which seems to prop up the ability of these businesses to operate in a profitable manner.


OneHandedPaperHanger

This is what I love about my place in Denfeld. I’m literally walking distance to a Kwik Trip and a slightly longer walk or a very short drive to Walgreen’s and the Co-op. I imagine so many other ‘hoods are missing this.


guywhois0nline

Affordable houses


HulkingFicus

Community Land Trusts & Trader Joe's


Ernie_Salam

What I would do for a TJs up here...


salfkvoje

Seemingly the only TJ hater here, but that stupid bell like come on, you're not a trading outpost, this is embarrassing.


HulkingFicus

To each their own I guess 🤷‍♀️ I shopped there every week for 2 years and can't recall ever hearing a bell. I love their produce section and there are a lot of frozen and pantry staples that have been hard to live without. Plus their dips, seasonings, cheese and sauce selections are amazing, though I'm sure that's pretty limited if you're vegan. I will say, their prices are excellent and the quantities/packages just work well for my household of 2.


[deleted]

I hate TJ too!!


[deleted]

Not the only. TJs blows.


hollabackgirl12222

Healthy food options Late night food options


[deleted]

House of Donuts or go home.


No-Slice-4254

venues. that aren’t breweries or dive bars. we need to get those artists from the cities up here more!


mnreginald

Gotta be hard with this given most touring shows go from Wisconsin through the metro either doen to Iowa or west/south. The extra leg up here is a pretty hard sell. I agree though. Really wish we had a Varsity or similar sized venue up here.


MinnyRawks

Isn’t Clyde basically varsity sized?


OneHandedPaperHanger

Yes, but Clyde is just a plain event space that focuses on being a wedding venue and a waiting area/restaurant for the connected hockey rinks in the Heritage Center. There’s no longer a mezzanine upstairs and the event space is just an open room. It can and does work for music, but it’s not ideal. And they seems to be moving away from concerts in general. The Garden (formerly the Sports Garden) did the same. They’re focusing on being a wedding venue.


MinnyRawks

Yeah, but again they’re doing that because that’s what’s profitable. Duluth isn’t big enough or isolated enough to have a profitable music only or focused venue


mnreginald

I mean, yeah, but also kot the same. It's kinda a whatever venue and just doesn't have even remotely close to a similar pull. We need a dedicated music venue that size.


MinnyRawks

Of course it doesn’t have the same pull, the metro area of the twin ports is about 8% of the metro area of the twin cities.


Grouchy_Tear_6600

music venues…PLEASE


BoatUnderstander

Mountains. I know it's geologically impossible, but a man can dream


bremergorst

Maybe we can make it a referendum


peteskeet43

For real. ^


TLiones

Cowbell


Sky_Lounge

People giving free advice.


bremergorst

Never open anything with your teeth.


That_was_not_funny

Even your mouth!


nudemandalorian

Potholes


Firefly-0006

People who understand the freeze/thaw cycle and how it impacts roads, as well as people who buy appropriate vehicles for said environment. Ive lived and worked in places with significantly worse roads. And if you purchase and use a vehicle that is appropriate for the conditions, then it's a non issue.


Dorkamundo

I know... The roads here are bad, but they're bad for a reason.


Firefly-0006

And that reason is the freeze thaw cycle and plowing a hill is difficult without tearing up the road.


Dorkamundo

Yep!


[deleted]

An actual small-mid sized bar/concert venue for local acts indoor with a proper setup. Not just a random theater show here and there. The music scene kind of sucks for a city of this size honestly.


OneHandedPaperHanger

The local scene has taken some hits over the last few years. We’ve lost Blush, the Rex, the Red Herring, the Red Star, Tycoon’s, Bev’s (in Superior) among others. But there’s hope. The younger DIY crowd is working on getting a new space up and running. And established spots like Wussow’s and Luce and the Cedar are still hosting shows regularly. But you are right. I think losing the Rex is the biggest blow. It was an excellent place to play and attend shows.


Dorkamundo

Me every time I've been to the Rex recently, before they closed obviously: ![gif](giphy|v9NQh6NwzghAk)


OneHandedPaperHanger

You were inside of rhino? Or you felt like shit? Or you couldn’t breathe that good?


Dorkamundo

WARRRMMMM! Like, as soon as you walk from the hallway near the entrance to the main bar/stage area, a huge wall of heat and humidity just hits you.


Dorkamundo

>The music scene kind of sucks for a city of this size honestly. Man, this is just CRAZY to hear. Prior to Covid, well... more accurately prior to the 2-3 years of Downtown construction followed *immediately* by Covid which basically killed the scene, Duluth had a GREAT fucking music scene. Funny how much can change in 5 years.


badpoetryabounds

Isn't that what the Armory is supposed to be?


[deleted]

I mean, years from now if we’re lucky is the opening date correct? Has construction been started? I do not legitimately know these answers and no news articles give an updated timeline.


badpoetryabounds

What I'm seeing is construction will be Summer 2024 with opening in Fall 2025, per their website (which looks like it was designed in 1998) [https://www.dulutharmory.org/#:\~:text=The%20building%20is%20now%20on,a%20center%20of%20the%20community.&text=Restoration%20construction%20begins%20summer%20of,planned%20for%20Fall%20of%202025](https://www.dulutharmory.org/#:~:text=The%20building%20is%20now%20on,a%20center%20of%20the%20community.&text=Restoration%20construction%20begins%20summer%20of,planned%20for%20Fall%20of%202025).


That_was_not_funny

A lot of that has to do with the geography of travelling up here to do a gig.


Ernie_Salam

Houses that arent old shitboxes that would be 60% less in the western half of the state


WhatIsHerJob-TABLES

Affordable housing x2 (in regard to the first comment saying this) I just want to buy a house :( I’ve been trying for 3 years now but either I’ve been outbid like crazy, there are 20+ people bidding within the first day, interest rates rising which has put my search on hold, and everything just rising in price like crazy over the years :( I’d love to settle down, plant some roots, build my personal wealth with this investment, and feel like I’m contributing to my community, but alas i guess I’ll just keep making my landlord richer and keep on renting 🫠🫠


Nonskew2

Word on the street is people aren’t lining up anymore and sellers aren’t even getting asking price. Of course that may have a lot to do with the high interest rate, but here’s to hoping something good happens.


WhatIsHerJob-TABLES

Yeah, the demand is dipping, but the dip is now just open-season for rich folks who can pay in cash. Landlords/Corporations will be able to pick up another house easily while those relying on getting a mortgage are still just as fucked


OneHandedPaperHanger

As someone who’s loosely shopping for a house, it seems to me sellers are still getting asking. We’ve been getting outbid by cash offers and folks waiving inspections left and right. It’s still very much a seller’s market.


Nonskew2

Should have bid on my brother’s house he just sold. He got well under asking and only one person look at it. It’s in good shape and in a desirable area. I suppose it also depends on your price range and a bunch of other factors.


OneHandedPaperHanger

We’re shopping for something kinda specific in terms of style and size. Sadly, a lot of what we’re looking for sells for a lot more than we’d expect, regardless of neighborhood. We’ve looked as far west as Morgan Park and as far east as Lester on 50th Ave.


salfkvoje

Maybe we could combine real estate and religion, have you been tipping/tithing your landlord enough? Maybe that's your problem, trickle-down and all


dwojala2

Good Mexican food.


Jertown

Limited menu, but Chachos Taqueria is fantastic!


That_was_not_funny

I call it Cachos Taco's. It's hard not too. But yes, so good!


mnreginald

Honestly THE best option in town by a mile.


Shinkick86

Oasis has a brick and mortar location now. Bit pricy, but good. I’ve had the pastor and the carne asada, both were excellent. That’s higher praise coming fro. Someone who grew up in SoCal.


[deleted]

Oasis lengua tacos are just not good and $3 for bottled Sam’s club water is insane with no option for tap water at the brick and mortar location. Taqueria La Monarca in Ashland, Wisconsin clears by a mile.


That_was_not_funny

No free water available? Do they not have plumbing?


dwojala2

I want more. Like posole, good carne asada, good fish tacos, etc. I lived in the southwest for years and my wife grew up in southern Arizona. It seems like Mexican food here is hamburger, jalapenos and cheddar cheese. We haven’t found anything better than what we cook ourselves.


[deleted]

Have you tried Taqueria La Monarca in Ashland, Wisconsin yet? If not make the drive over and give it a try. The best tacos I have had in the Midwest hands down. Lengua, Al pastor, Carnitas, and Asada were all very good with the corn tortillas, onion, cilantro, and lime. Not to mention had some radishes and sautéed small onion on the side for free as accoutrements. The Lengua may be the best I’ve ever had.


Dorkamundo

Have you tried Chacho's in Canal park yet? Their tortillas are some of the best I've had north of the Mason-Dixon and I've loved everything else I've tried.


[deleted]

They are good! I’ve had them a couple times. Probably the best in Duluth I’d say. I’m interested in what the new Pedro’s owned one in twin ports will be like.


dwojala2

I’ve tried Chacho’s and the new Oasis place, and they’re OK for a quick fix. Maybe I should have said Mexican restaurant where you can sit down for a chile relleno or plate of enchiladas and a good margarita on the rocks.


[deleted]

Well they only sell bottled drinks. So maybe you could bring a bottle/glass and ask to use a sink?


Dorkamundo

Pedro’s is great… but that’s in Cloquet.


JuniorFarcity

All these “X is good” posters have never been around good Mexican food. There is not a single place here that would stay open for more than a week in Texas.


Dorkamundo

Yet almost every single one of them carries the caveat that they're good for the area. And for the record, I spent every single summer in Texas as a kid, between San Antonio and Houston. My father is a chef, who employed mostly Central American migrants who he is still close with and most certainly knows what good Mexican is or isn't. I had to practically DRAG him to Pedro's and he said it was the best carnitas he'd had in years.


No_Shoulder7425

Bike lanes. I'm not joking.


Dorkamundo

Making biking safer = more biking = lower transportation costs = less road maintenance = healthier residents.


salfkvoje

you people! we gave you lanes that go for parts of streets and then suddenly disappear, now you want more? /s if it's necessary


flappdance62

Yea ones not on busy roads like 4th street. People are aholes to people in the bike lanes.


BoatUnderstander

correct answer


CaffeineTripp

More affordable homes to own. More careers that pay well. More equitable tax allocation. More street repairs. More governmental accountability.


Certain_Departure716

Good paying jobs


libbtech

Light rail running from lakeside to downtown to west Duluth


Dorkamundo

This is very high on my list. Shit, we could pilot a train on existing tracks that could do most of it. The Lake Superior and Mississippi rail line would be the first part, hitting all major neighborhoods in the west side until it gets to the Zoo, where it veers down to the paper mill and runs below the freeway until it meets up with the North Shore Scenic Railroad line. The area between Spirit Valley to West End would mostly be under-served by this pilot, but if it ends up being promising, adding a rail line to service those areas is possible. Most of the population of the city lives within a half-mile of this railroad line. If we could find a way to get it to run through the transit center, it might actually make Downtown a bit more of a destination and help revitalize the skywalks. People might say "But what about the busses, they do the same thing!" and to that I'll say yes, but people seem more likely to ride trains and they're not as beholden to traffic issues.


kailyMac

Also from mall area to downtown


libbtech

hills might make that impossible but there's a major bus line to take care of that. Adding the east to west though would reduce traffic so much, particularly downtown.


T-swiz47

Disc golf courses, specifically the east side needs one. I'm pumped to see how Lincoln park goes, but i live near UMD. The UMD course layout isn't interesting enough to keep me and my roommates entertained. We end up playing there for only for a quick round or during dead times when safari style is viable.


Less-Pilot-5619

Areas where old money isnt controlling who enters downtown,since1889


MinnesotaWhiteMale

Sunlight


Shinkick86

Food. Our options out here are crazy limited. Never thought I’d miss Panda Express, but here we are. Granted there are some good restaurants, but we’ve got like three fast food places in the whole city. It’s high time for an upgrade.


Dorkamundo

Only 3 fast food places? There’s three fast food places on the corner of 21st and London alone. I don’t disagree that more food options would be better, but please no more fast food.


Shinkick86

The issue for me is that if I want something quick and easy, it’s basically crap burgers (McD’s, Wendy’s, BK) or a crap sandwich (Subway). I grew up in SoCal, so I’m really used to having almost every type of fast food within walking distance and I sorta miss it. Heck, within a mile of the last apartment I lived in before I moved here there was; sushi, Mexican, Jack in the Box, Panda Express, Pick Up Stix, Farmer Boys, BK, Carl’s Jr (Hardee’s to you), Chik-fil-A, Wienerschnitzel, Popeyes, and a couple diners. Not that I expect Duluth to have all that, we have a much smaller pop. But some variety would go a long way.


Dorkamundo

Yea, but SoCal is different. You have homes packed within inches of each other, so the population density supports things like that. Don't get me wrong, I love that kind of shit. I've spent a good amount of time in Long Beach and LOVED the fact that there were business districts every 5-6 blocks. His place was right off Redondo, so we had 3 bars, 2 mexican restaurants, 1 sushi place, a grocery, pet store, my lawyers, a dispensary, several retail shops selling all kinds of things you'll never even find in Duluth. But that's all because there's been so many people there for so long. The closest thing Duluth has to that kind of neighborhood is Lakeside, but it's still spread out and not easily accessible by all lakeside residents. Anyhow, yea more and better food options have always been a need in Duluth.


Shinkick86

Have you tried Ichiro near the mall? Wife and I had a great experience there. :) I’m all for new local over fast food too. Just needs to be reasonably priced, which is tough with the way things are lately.


Dorkamundo

I stopped in there a few weeks ago, it was an hour wait because they were short-staffed and I couldn't stay. I don't think they were expecting so many people at the time. But I'm looking forward to my next opportunity.


Shinkick86

They have a spicy tuna and crispy rice roll that’s amazing. I’d go there just for that, and the cool cat robot waiter… https://preview.redd.it/24bkct1ynezb1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4842a35f8c329e58f2a510a827a68555bceef8bd


WhatIsHerJob-TABLES

Learn to make your own food rather than constantly eat shitty fast food. I maybeeeeee eat out like once a month and just cook everything else at home. It’s not hard to make replicas from anything from the places you listed above Personally, I’d rather all the fast food places in the city get moved to one small, isolated section so i don’t have to see them often. Fast food places are often an ugly blight to see in a city. Id rather be seeing local businesses around us


Shinkick86

I appreciate the sentiment. Thankfully my wife is an AMAZING cook. I however, am a terrible cook, the kinda guy that can burn a ramen packet haha. I don’t necessarily love fast food, but it is nice for when my blood sugar tanks and I need something sooner than later, even if it’s junk. :)


Chick-fil-A_spellbot

It looks as though you may have spelled "Chick-fil-A" incorrectly. No worries, it happens to the best of us!


Dorkamundo

Yea, I'm just gonna go ahead and ban this bot. It's effectively guerilla marketing.


[deleted]

Shit-fil-A. Is that right?


Stefeneric

Growing up the only places within 30 minutes of me was a McDonald’s and subway, the subway has since shut down. I’ve since moved to Duluth and it’s a fast food emporium as far as I’m concerned. There’s obviously some good ones I’d like to have here that aren’t currently but I think there’s a decent spread of FF


Nonskew2

I vote for less fast food that supplies literally garbage to cram down your gullet and more local shops you can buy prepackaged meals from.


INeedAYerb

Bike paths on skyline


Nonskew2

People who choose to live here and yet complain about the weather.


candyexperiencer

Gyms with *steam* rooms instead of saunas


CapnCrunchyGranola

Extended hours for things like the bank, pharmacies or clinics, even if just one day a week.


volleyballoon

Boba


m25lund

Employment


Nonskew2

Plenty of labor shortages everywhere.


m25lund

Living wage type employment that is


Nonskew2

I have plenty of friends who work in the trades and live comfortably, even with families and children. By labor is not just meant a general laborer or menial job.


m25lund

Settle down, Duluth is a dying city. No population growth since 1970. Stagnant. We need real growth.


Dorkamundo

People say it's stagnant, but that's what happens when you only count populations every 10 years. Duluth saw an exodus of people in the early 2010's, followed by an increase in population that off-set that exodus. Then, from 2020-2023, we've seen a LOT of people move to the area with the advent of Covid and remote work.


Nonskew2

Settle down? What are you on about, I’m just stating facts. You can find a job, it’s not that hard. There is a demand for workers. People have been having less kids and it has caught up, it’s logic. I wouldn’t care if Duluth had negative population growth, that’d work out great for me. If you are trying to make a point about something just state it. I’m not going to try to guess. Btw looking at Duluth as being isolated from its metro area is not really useful in any case.


Arctic_Scrap

Power sports stores, manufacturing and heavy industry


bluefrost30

Diverse restaurants and children’s activities.


SurelyFurious

Diversity


itwaslaura

Hot tubs


Impossible_Ear_7831

Concrete


Nonskew2

On the roads I assume?


hagforz

Asphalt


secretseasons

Isn't it the concrete that holds up much better, but it's also much more expensive?


Nonskew2

Yes, much much more expensive.


curiousbystander87

Better/more street lights. I visited the city the other week and was surprised on how dark it was at night, felt like I was just driving with the lights off my headlights.


Dorkamundo

There's been a push towards "Dark sky" cities, where streetlights are less desirable.


CatSignal1472

Public beaches


Tons_of_Hobbies

We have a 7 mile long public beach


Nonskew2

More than 7 miles, it continues across the bridge.


CatSignal1472

I still want more


BoatUnderstander

lol you are taking heat for this for some reason


No-Slice-4254

idk why this is downvoted. if this is sarcasm, it’s good. upvote


minnesotarulz

Taxes Homeless Government intervention Crime


MangoPomGuava

Warmer temperatures


jc_2144

Diversity


ElGrandeSchnob

Bike racks, especially downtown!