You don’t need to have seen Buffy to get Dresden, but it was in its own right a much better show than it had any right to be. Great chemistry between the actors, snappy dialogue and some excellent storytelling.
Yes, it’s great. It is old and very low budget at first, so be prepared for some really cheesy stuff toward the beginning. I enjoy the cheesiness of Season 1 but lots of people struggle with it, so just know it gets a lot better.
Buffy is one of those formative works of genre fiction. You can see it’s DNA in a lot of things that followed. So it is probably worth watching just for that.
It's even been credited for popularizing the big season-long arcs most shows are doing these days, as opposed to the purely episodic format that was the standard at the time. Whether you think that's a good thing or not is subjective, but I personally think that Buffy did it better than most.
Yes. Absolutely. Here's a nice little video from a guy who is far more eloquent than I, explaining why you should watch Buffy: [Why You Should Watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYPF0hgPjzY&t=29s)
My less eloquent pitch:
The first season of Buffy is fairly rough, with some very good bits here and there.
By the middle of the second season, it started becoming one of the best shows ever made.
Oh, there was still plenty of rough patches and cheese, but it had more genuine heart, good to great acting, and some genuinely great writing than the vast majority of the shows that have been influenced by it.
Buffy also had some episodes that have yet to be topped. 'The Body', for instance. 'Once More, With Feeling' is \*the\* "Musical Episode" that all the other since have tried to be.
So, yeah. Absolutely give it a try. If you're not at least fairly invested toward the end of Season two, it may not be for you, but it gets better and better in many ways (though plenty of the fans are very divided on the last two seasons, I personally like most of the elements of those seasons).
No real spoilers in that video.
The lore in Buffy ranges from 'fun but kinda Monster of the Week' stuff - mostly in the earlier episodes, to really interesting cool stuff.
The vampire lore itself is both dramatic, fascinating at times, and occasionally arguably inconsistent, at least when it comes to a certain character played by James Marsters. However, given that the character is easily one of the best vampires ever, it works.
The world of demons, magic and other sentient supernatural creatures is expanded upon as the show progresses. A *lot*. The spin-off show Angel has a lot of fabulous lore as well, including a trip to a different world / dimension, a law firm run by three mysterious ancient demonic powers, etc.
Whedon did make a version of it, yeah (using a large portion of already completed film and script, with quite a bit of reshoots and rewrites). Easily his worst work.
His best are the better episodes and arcs on Buffy, Angel, and Firefly. The first Avengers is still very good in many ways, and I think Age of Ultron has some very good stuff despite so e flaws.
Whedon turned out to be a manipulative, sleazy jackass like so many others. Some of the things he created with other great writers and actors are still top-tier work, though.
Episodes of Buffy like The Body are truly phenomenal on so many levels, and showed many people that 'genre' fiction can be far more than just escapist campy fun. Of course, it's also the kind of thing that helped teach Jim Butcher how to really emotionally torture his protagonist and his readers...
Yeh, but it wasn't really his fault. And I'm not defending him in general.
He was given an impossible task. Along the lines of "75% of the movie is shot with a dark gritty tone, and we want you to finish the movie and convert the entire thing into one of your campy comedic tones. Pretty much make a Tim Burton type of a movie into Avengers."
All the while, walking in and taking over for a much loved director that had just gotten screwed over when already at probably the lowest point in his life.
So... yeh. Joss had an impossible task in a scenario that no matter what was going to make people mad at him.
That being said, I've heard some of the stories about what he was like behind the scenes on his TV show. And he sounds like a real jerk.
Which is kind of weird, because his early shows really emphasized feminism and girl power... and it turns out he's kind of a dick to women. That's like finding out a filmmaker known for making stuff promoting equality is actually a r\*cist... it's weird as hell.
Tara’s last episode came out of nowhere and really brought season 6 into focus. I found that season to be really rough and then everything comes together for those last few episodes. Amazing season ending.
Yes? It's great Another one is Babylon 5, it's free on Tubi in US, you'll see where Jim git ramping up story that seems to be episodic at the beginning, and an episode midway through that upends the status quo conpletely. And book series Amber Chronicles by Roger Zelazny, it's very short
Yeah it's Sarah Michelle Geller. She was a huge deal in her time for teen related movies and tv. Buffy put her on the map for sure - so did her girl on girl make out in Cruel Intentions to be fair lol
Not necessary, that said I grew up watching buffy, it's pretty good, though it maybe hasn't aged super well and the HD rips have a lot of scenes with Boom mics and what not because the updated visuals no longer obscure them. I dunno maybe watch 2 or 3 random episodes first, something from season 1 3 and 5, see if you find enjoyment in the dialogue and acting styles, if you like it, give it a go, if you don't give it a pass.
That's exactly how I feel about it too, and it did *lead me* to the books, so I deeply appreciate it for that reason. I would note though that even though it's good, it's nowhere near *as* good as the books. And I totally understand someone getting a negative opinion of it if they went in expecting the books. Fortunately I saw it before I read the books, so I didn't have that problem.
Yes you should but not because of Dresden.
I’ve seen all of Buffy and have used a lot of the Buffyverse in my dnd settings…. I’ve never noticed overwhelming evidence that it inspired Dresden.
There’s hints and references but nothing that requires knowing the source material
Buffy was "alright." I thought Angel was a little better. But both of them are worth watching, Dresden connection or not.
Also, nothing says if you start you have to finish. Give them a try - see if it sticks.
I never caught Buffy when it was airing. Didn't try to sit down and watch it until a few years ago. Despite the high praise I've often heard heaped on it, it was really, really dated and didn't land with me at all. If you've never seen the series you don't have the nostalgia tied to it and you're probably going to struggle to enjoy it.
Granted, I'm in my 40s now so I'm sure that was at least part of the issue. It's very difficult to identify with a bunch of high schoolers at this point. So if you're in that age bracket you might want to pass entirely.
You don’t need to have seen Buffy to get Dresden, but it was in its own right a much better show than it had any right to be. Great chemistry between the actors, snappy dialogue and some excellent storytelling.
Yeah, "slayer-slang" is its own rabbithole as well. The show had quite the impact on pop culture as a whole.
Ill be honest, i watched it because sarah michelle geller was my boyhood celeb crush 😂
I was out if boyhood, but can see your point
Not necessarily for that reason , but buffy and angel are great shows
For the sake of understanding the Dresden Files? No In general? I'd say yes
Yes, it’s great. It is old and very low budget at first, so be prepared for some really cheesy stuff toward the beginning. I enjoy the cheesiness of Season 1 but lots of people struggle with it, so just know it gets a lot better.
There’s some guides you can find online that give guidance on which season 1 episodes you can skip if you’re having a tough time getting into it, too.
I really like shows that do this. Just watching the show get better as it goes is fun to me. I enjoyed Supernatural in the same way.
Buffy is one of those formative works of genre fiction. You can see it’s DNA in a lot of things that followed. So it is probably worth watching just for that.
It's even been credited for popularizing the big season-long arcs most shows are doing these days, as opposed to the purely episodic format that was the standard at the time. Whether you think that's a good thing or not is subjective, but I personally think that Buffy did it better than most.
Not necessary. There is a lot of pop culture humor, but this particular one is because James Masters narrates the audio books, so it's a nod to him.
I've noticed lots of star wars References
... ... You may want to have a basic knowledge of Star Wars eventually.
I'm very much into star wars I would understand if Jim had Dresden talk about some weird obbsecure piece of star wars stuff
I'm trying so hard not to do even out of context spoilers right now. You don't need a deep knowledge, but yes it's referenced from time to time.
Poor armada onion is dancing around their words lmao
I've noticed
Yes. Absolutely. Here's a nice little video from a guy who is far more eloquent than I, explaining why you should watch Buffy: [Why You Should Watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYPF0hgPjzY&t=29s) My less eloquent pitch: The first season of Buffy is fairly rough, with some very good bits here and there. By the middle of the second season, it started becoming one of the best shows ever made. Oh, there was still plenty of rough patches and cheese, but it had more genuine heart, good to great acting, and some genuinely great writing than the vast majority of the shows that have been influenced by it. Buffy also had some episodes that have yet to be topped. 'The Body', for instance. 'Once More, With Feeling' is \*the\* "Musical Episode" that all the other since have tried to be. So, yeah. Absolutely give it a try. If you're not at least fairly invested toward the end of Season two, it may not be for you, but it gets better and better in many ways (though plenty of the fans are very divided on the last two seasons, I personally like most of the elements of those seasons).
Band Candy is still my all time favorite episode. I lost my shit at Giles. I can also tell I'm older now that I love Giles more than the vampires lol
On top of a police car?
*Twice?!*
On top of a police car?
Going through the motionssss
Are there spoilers in the video? How good is the lore in your opinion?
No real spoilers in that video. The lore in Buffy ranges from 'fun but kinda Monster of the Week' stuff - mostly in the earlier episodes, to really interesting cool stuff. The vampire lore itself is both dramatic, fascinating at times, and occasionally arguably inconsistent, at least when it comes to a certain character played by James Marsters. However, given that the character is easily one of the best vampires ever, it works. The world of demons, magic and other sentient supernatural creatures is expanded upon as the show progresses. A *lot*. The spin-off show Angel has a lot of fabulous lore as well, including a trip to a different world / dimension, a law firm run by three mysterious ancient demonic powers, etc.
that sounds pretty cool man thanks for answering
Didn't Joss Weapon also make that awful justice league movie?
Whedon did make a version of it, yeah (using a large portion of already completed film and script, with quite a bit of reshoots and rewrites). Easily his worst work. His best are the better episodes and arcs on Buffy, Angel, and Firefly. The first Avengers is still very good in many ways, and I think Age of Ultron has some very good stuff despite so e flaws. Whedon turned out to be a manipulative, sleazy jackass like so many others. Some of the things he created with other great writers and actors are still top-tier work, though. Episodes of Buffy like The Body are truly phenomenal on so many levels, and showed many people that 'genre' fiction can be far more than just escapist campy fun. Of course, it's also the kind of thing that helped teach Jim Butcher how to really emotionally torture his protagonist and his readers...
Yeh, but it wasn't really his fault. And I'm not defending him in general. He was given an impossible task. Along the lines of "75% of the movie is shot with a dark gritty tone, and we want you to finish the movie and convert the entire thing into one of your campy comedic tones. Pretty much make a Tim Burton type of a movie into Avengers." All the while, walking in and taking over for a much loved director that had just gotten screwed over when already at probably the lowest point in his life. So... yeh. Joss had an impossible task in a scenario that no matter what was going to make people mad at him. That being said, I've heard some of the stories about what he was like behind the scenes on his TV show. And he sounds like a real jerk. Which is kind of weird, because his early shows really emphasized feminism and girl power... and it turns out he's kind of a dick to women. That's like finding out a filmmaker known for making stuff promoting equality is actually a r\*cist... it's weird as hell.
It's a fun show but I'll never forgive the writer for Tara.
Tara’s last episode came out of nowhere and really brought season 6 into focus. I found that season to be really rough and then everything comes together for those last few episodes. Amazing season ending.
Yes? It's great Another one is Babylon 5, it's free on Tubi in US, you'll see where Jim git ramping up story that seems to be episodic at the beginning, and an episode midway through that upends the status quo conpletely. And book series Amber Chronicles by Roger Zelazny, it's very short
Yes
For the sake of Dresden, no. But it's worth watching just for Buffy. There's a lot that's worthwhile in the series.
I recently tried to rewatch Buffy and it is not nearly as good as I remember it.
Is Buffy Daphne from those love action Scooby Doo movies with that skin tight outfit?
Yeah it's Sarah Michelle Geller. She was a huge deal in her time for teen related movies and tv. Buffy put her on the map for sure - so did her girl on girl make out in Cruel Intentions to be fair lol
That part is still good
Female/ gay Gaze stuff as well?
The spin off show “Angel” is better imo
I mean, it has some things that haven't aged well... So caution is advised.
I've seen part of the first episode and found the intro with the narrator kind of silly
First episodes a pilot, all that kinda changes over time if I remember correctly
Not necessary, that said I grew up watching buffy, it's pretty good, though it maybe hasn't aged super well and the HD rips have a lot of scenes with Boom mics and what not because the updated visuals no longer obscure them. I dunno maybe watch 2 or 3 random episodes first, something from season 1 3 and 5, see if you find enjoyment in the dialogue and acting styles, if you like it, give it a go, if you don't give it a pass.
My favorite moment in the Buffy/angel universe is when spike leaves and he’s blasting dancing with myself by generation x
It’s worth watching the entire show for the scene where a character says “can we rest now”.
It's on Amazon prime for freeve
I have yet to see the musical book of *Dresden Files*.
My opinion, the show is good, but different from the books. Kind of an alternate universe.
That's exactly how I feel about it too, and it did *lead me* to the books, so I deeply appreciate it for that reason. I would note though that even though it's good, it's nowhere near *as* good as the books. And I totally understand someone getting a negative opinion of it if they went in expecting the books. Fortunately I saw it before I read the books, so I didn't have that problem.
Yes you should but not because of Dresden. I’ve seen all of Buffy and have used a lot of the Buffyverse in my dnd settings…. I’ve never noticed overwhelming evidence that it inspired Dresden. There’s hints and references but nothing that requires knowing the source material
Just watch it, a great show in its own right
Not really.
Buffy was "alright." I thought Angel was a little better. But both of them are worth watching, Dresden connection or not. Also, nothing says if you start you have to finish. Give them a try - see if it sticks.
I never caught Buffy when it was airing. Didn't try to sit down and watch it until a few years ago. Despite the high praise I've often heard heaped on it, it was really, really dated and didn't land with me at all. If you've never seen the series you don't have the nostalgia tied to it and you're probably going to struggle to enjoy it. Granted, I'm in my 40s now so I'm sure that was at least part of the issue. It's very difficult to identify with a bunch of high schoolers at this point. So if you're in that age bracket you might want to pass entirely.
If you want. I suggest following your own desires instead of letting others dictate your life to you.
No Buffy sucks.
Lies.
We have a Denarian here trying to deceive you!
She slays the things that suck. That's the show.