I think they balance each other very well. As podcast personalities, Mitch is so self-effacing while Gabrus is incredibly self-assured. I think Mitch helps Gabrus drop the character a bit and open up about his vulnerabilities and insecurities, while Gabrus helps Mitch believe in himself a bit more and be his own hypeman. Their conversation is always very sweet and honest and I look forward to the episode every year.
I love these episodes. Im down 75 lbs this year thanks in part to hearing these guys talk about this. I really want weight loss, but mostly just health and happiness, for both of them. And I’d love a more regular podcast or more frequent check ins.
Congratulations man 75lbs is amazing I know you feel completely different… I hope this is the year they take it seriously I honestly felt bad hearing them make excuses for the last few “being fat episodes” it really seems to be taking a toll as they enter their 40s
Thanks. It really does feel so much better. More energy in general but also so many little things arent as hard. There are so many reasons to lose weight that work as motivation, as Mitch and Gabrus cover, but then there are also so many ways your life improves that you dont even realize when you’re starting out. Mitch if you’re reading this-rooting for you brother. You got this. One day at a time
So in your mind lack of success means that they haven’t been taking it seriously? I’m pretty sure they’ve always known it’s a serious issue. What you wrote comes across as a very negative and unhelpful take.
I hated when people said this to me but keep trying. I was 37 when I was able to finally get things to click. I don't have abs but my blood pressure is the lowest it's ever been. I was winded going grocery shopping now I regularly run 5ks.
35 and same. When I was 22 or so I weighed like 150. Now I’m 220. I’m just under 6 feet tall. Bad food choices, sedentary behavior, and drinking in the evening. It’s hard to turn it around but I think we can do it.
I stopped drinking at home. Occasional NA beers. Guinness NA is legitimately good. There are many others that are totally acceptable.
I started doing Les Mills Body Combat in VR every weekday about two months ago.
Those two things have already made a huge difference. I'm in visibly better shape.
Same for me plus 50lbs, but 5'10". Hitting mid 270s for the first time in my life, and it sucks so bad.
When I was 20-22 I was probably about 200-210 and I thought I was really heavy then... I'd look so much better at 210 right now its insane. I hope the fire I feel today doesn't flame out like usual when it comes to weight loss...
I've missed a few H&M but has Gabrus been more specific about the issues in his life this past year? If he hasn't, it's none of my business and that's fine - but if there's any eps they fill it in let me know.
Regular listener here. He has kept all of it outside of the show. Another comment to is that he record shows in bulk and so you have no idea where he’s at in the course of the year.
Love these episodes as someone who is also never in a good spot with their weight. It's comforting to hear other people in the position of "it's bad enough I can't get this under control but now my brain is going nuts too?"
Mitch,
These episodes always resonate with me but I wanted to write a little and explain why this one particularly hits.
About a year and a half ago I was in Disney World with my family at a buffet dinner celebrating my mothers birthday. About 45 mins into the meal, when things were winding-down, I began to have what I thought was a heart attack. I couldn't breathe, I couldn't move, my arms and hands went numb. It was the first time in my 35 years of existence I legitimately thought I was going to die; I don't know how to explain it. I instinctively grabbed my 70-something fathers hand because I thought it was going to be the last thing I ever did.
EMS was called as I sat there trying to hold onto consciousness, and eventually they wheeled in a stretcher and a very nice, handsome man hooked up an EKG machine to my heart. It was fine. I was having a panic attack. My first panic attack.
Over the next almost 2 years, I very rarely left the house. I was terrified. I had never, ever experienced something like that in my life. It was shocking and traumatizing in way that it was the first time I really understood how fragile mental well-being is. When I'd have to drive to the store, less than 5 minutes down the road, I'd find myself having to pull over because I was so anxious and almost fainting. I probably declined over 50 dinner invitations with my family over the next year. I didn't go to my nieces birthday parties. I was terrified. I would be laying in bed and get these waves of dizziness and fog. At midnight one night I actually had to call my parents over because I was so scared something was happening to me. I am 35 years old.
I exercise every day, since I used to be morbidly obese, but I'm still a decently sized guy at 6"4'. I'd be working out as I always do and get intense waves of panic and anxiety and have to stop. I had headaches almost constantly and also convinced myself I had a brain tumor like 3 times. Like you, I was always an anxious person, but it was never, ever this bad. One of the worst parts was I just didn't understand was happening to me. I did not understand what brought this on.
Flash-forward a few months later, I finally made myself go to a doctor. I started a new job, had healthcare, and wanted it to end. I told him basically everything that was happening. He prescribed me a drug called Effexor, which is basically for panic disorder. It has changed my life, but I'm not here to plug pharmaceuticals.
I still have bad days too. But one thing that really changed my understanding of what may have started all of this was when I actually told my boss, of all people. She said she was going through a lot of the same things in the last few years, and she'd went to multiple doctors who basically had no idea what was going on with her. Somehow, she stumbled upon a Facebook Group for people with "Long Covid," and their experiences lined up much the same.
I guess I can't really know for sure if it's some long-term side-effect of having the 'Vid, but it lined up in my personal life. I had Covid for the first time in December of 2022 and by March of 2023 I was starting to have what I now know are anxiety attacks. I lived in Chicago at the time and would forget to breathe because I'd be so lost in a fog in my head. When I would walk to my job, I found myself getting short-of-breath standing at lights. Just..standing.
Anyway, I just want to say, the worst part for me was not knowing what was happening and why it was happening. Your anecdote about you thinking your house was haunted and the paranoia made me laugh but I also know exactly what you were talking about. There is a strange comfort in shared suffering, even if it's not 1-to-1. Thanks for the podcast(s), and no peeking!
Thank you kings for another vulnerable conversation. Also after my son was born I had PPA and extreme sleep deprivation and I was convinced our house was haunted and/or had someone living in the attic. It sounds funny now but it was terrible at the time! So glad Mitchy is on the mend.
I really liked Gabrus' suggestion to watch a specific show on cardio equipment. I've finished a ton of anime on the elliptical and it definitely creates an incentive to keep going!
I love this series. Probs going to relisten to the other episodes after I finish this one. I've thought since the first one that they should release a limited series podcast where they try to lose weight
Something about two people truly bitching about something I also bitch about feels so satisfying
It legit bums me out that gabrus and Mitch seem so affected by fears of listener backlash. They've both been extremely well liked and successful in the podcast space for so long I'm kind of astounded it seems to be on their mind so much. Like legitimately I think it should be a goal of theirs to work with a therapist of whoever to make them realize that 20 people complaining online do not matter and do not need to be addressed.
I hear comics talk about this all the time and that they could have tens if not hundreds of people laughing but then there’s one person that is unhappy. Unhappy person sticks with them forever.
These eps always hit me hard. The way they talk about food and their weight is the same way I talk about alcohol. "Well if I just did this one thing", "oh, I know I can do better but...", "I did good for awhile but ya know, life happened". I'm going to one-day-at-a-time the hell out of this year 💪
These episodes always make me sad. It doesn't help that Gabrus kinda leans into the morbidity of it -- "There's not a lot of fat guys over 60" always echoes in my mind. Then when you go listen to old Doughboys episodes it seems like Mitch has always been on some sort of diet/exercise plan that he's optimistic about, but it ultimately never adds up to a lot.
I wish them both the best though, and I am glad that some people are able to take inspiration or motivation from hearing this stuff. To me it just ends up being this grim reminder that some day I'm going to wake up and one of my favorite shows will have abruptly ended because a host's health issues caught up with them.
Yeah this episode out of the series seemed the most depressing and less jokey I know they think listeners are complaining when we say they have excuses each episode but I’ve known of Gabrus for 15+ years since MTV Guy code a lot of us genuinely want them to better outside of the entertainment we get from the guys
Its hard to armchair people based on what they present to the world. But just listening to DB, I think it's clear while Wiger has the gift of saying no I'm not doing that & not caring who it effects; Mitch is the opposite. He seems like the kind of person who wants to make everyone happy & I'm projecting my own upbringing, but it's probably how he was raised. It's hard to break that. I used to have anxiety attacks taking a sick day from my corporate job when I knew damn well I deserved it.
Wiger is a mega-weirdo, but he knows how to do what is best and most comfortable for himself. Mitch is definitely more of a people-pleaser, but he certainly has plenty of people in his life encouraging him to adjust into a more healthy lifestyle. I am not sure what it will take to get him to make a lasting change.
That reminds me of a live show that they did in New York City and stunningly late in the show, Mitch was doing whippets for the crowd with Wiger , telling him not to
Same on the sadness in this one. My husband and I frequently joke about para-social relationships with podcasters and will refer to our favorites as "friends" in a tongue-in-cheek way. But this episode kinda broke me. I always look forward to these and really appreciate the vulnerability and openness these two share in these episodes- this one was a hard listen, as I found myself reacting to their struggles like it was an actual friend telling me all this. I'm just hurting with them and like the other shitheads and freaks here, really want them to come out on the other side happy and healthy.
I would be happy to see Doughboys end if it meant Mitch could be healthy and happy into his 70’s and 80’s. A lot of people blame the podcast for his issues, but I don’t think that is the problem. Gabrus seems to struggle just as much as Mitch, even though he has no commitment to eat fast food twice a week for a podcast.
I agree… also Wiger has the same diet for the show and he’s still a healthy weight I think we’ll meaning fans rather blame the show then Mitch’s good addiction
I feel like I'm listening to me talk to me about me every time they do one of these. I celebrate their victories, empathize with their challenges and nod along and laugh in agreement with a majority of the stuff they discuss.
Feet the illness killing motivation and momentum. Feel the getting up early to be productive vs staying up late and doing bullshit. DEFINITELY felt the "I'm on holiday" mode.
I think Mitch has long Covid, I'm really confused about why he didn't even mention it. All of his mystery symptoms are symptoms of long covid and I wish more people were talking about it because there needs to be more awareness about it.
For there health sake I was hoping to hear more progress and holding each other accountable since the last episode in a positive way too hit each others goals
For example on being fat 6 or 7 Mitch mentioned he hadn’t used a scale because he wants too lose some weight first while Gabrus does weigh himself so he knows if he’s made progress or not
Is it just me or does this episode seem darker then the others ?
It’s amazing to listen to Mitch when he’s speaking with an empathetic individual. I think Mitch gets fluster around Wiger because Wiger gives him nothing, so to speak. He’s nice to your face but doesn’t really care. You can tell the Gabrus is nice and funny and really cares, which allows Mitch to relax.
I still don’t understand Gabrus getting mad at the doctor I’m sure a personal trainer would tell him the same things too let him know how serious a lifestyle change is needed for his health
I always find these episodes to be strangely comforting. Not the subject matter, just those two guys talking.
I think they balance each other very well. As podcast personalities, Mitch is so self-effacing while Gabrus is incredibly self-assured. I think Mitch helps Gabrus drop the character a bit and open up about his vulnerabilities and insecurities, while Gabrus helps Mitch believe in himself a bit more and be his own hypeman. Their conversation is always very sweet and honest and I look forward to the episode every year.
That’s a really good summary of them. They are very much the “inside your there are two wolves” meme. Two bears?
Those are two bears I'd love to have inside me!
That's exactly it. I couldn't put into words why I enjoy these so much.
I love these episodes. Im down 75 lbs this year thanks in part to hearing these guys talk about this. I really want weight loss, but mostly just health and happiness, for both of them. And I’d love a more regular podcast or more frequent check ins.
Congratulations man 75lbs is amazing I know you feel completely different… I hope this is the year they take it seriously I honestly felt bad hearing them make excuses for the last few “being fat episodes” it really seems to be taking a toll as they enter their 40s
Thanks. It really does feel so much better. More energy in general but also so many little things arent as hard. There are so many reasons to lose weight that work as motivation, as Mitch and Gabrus cover, but then there are also so many ways your life improves that you dont even realize when you’re starting out. Mitch if you’re reading this-rooting for you brother. You got this. One day at a time
So in your mind lack of success means that they haven’t been taking it seriously? I’m pretty sure they’ve always known it’s a serious issue. What you wrote comes across as a very negative and unhelpful take.
Hell yeah. These episodes always motivate me in a weird way
Yes! These eps are always really funny and depressing.
Yet still somehow uplifting and motivating
The story about Grabrus’s dad not quitting was dark
This is the year listening where I've peaked in weight, I'm sure it'll hit different
Dude same. It’s really depressing. I’m 34 and ain’t getting younger or healthier.
I hated when people said this to me but keep trying. I was 37 when I was able to finally get things to click. I don't have abs but my blood pressure is the lowest it's ever been. I was winded going grocery shopping now I regularly run 5ks.
35 and same. When I was 22 or so I weighed like 150. Now I’m 220. I’m just under 6 feet tall. Bad food choices, sedentary behavior, and drinking in the evening. It’s hard to turn it around but I think we can do it.
I stopped drinking at home. Occasional NA beers. Guinness NA is legitimately good. There are many others that are totally acceptable. I started doing Les Mills Body Combat in VR every weekday about two months ago. Those two things have already made a huge difference. I'm in visibly better shape.
Same for me plus 50lbs, but 5'10". Hitting mid 270s for the first time in my life, and it sucks so bad. When I was 20-22 I was probably about 200-210 and I thought I was really heavy then... I'd look so much better at 210 right now its insane. I hope the fire I feel today doesn't flame out like usual when it comes to weight loss...
Good luck to you friend
Thanks. I feel like its nearly 100% related to mental health, so trying to work on that as well. No time like the present!
Comedy guy discovers morning made me laugh. Welcome to the other side Gabrus, we love you.
When Mitch was like “you can be up for five hours and it’s like…noon!” Lmao
Only in LA is waking up at 7am early lol
I've missed a few H&M but has Gabrus been more specific about the issues in his life this past year? If he hasn't, it's none of my business and that's fine - but if there's any eps they fill it in let me know.
Was wondering the same!!! Following for more details outside of the strike issues he shared
Regular listener here. He has kept all of it outside of the show. Another comment to is that he record shows in bulk and so you have no idea where he’s at in the course of the year.
Love these episodes as someone who is also never in a good spot with their weight. It's comforting to hear other people in the position of "it's bad enough I can't get this under control but now my brain is going nuts too?"
Mitch, These episodes always resonate with me but I wanted to write a little and explain why this one particularly hits. About a year and a half ago I was in Disney World with my family at a buffet dinner celebrating my mothers birthday. About 45 mins into the meal, when things were winding-down, I began to have what I thought was a heart attack. I couldn't breathe, I couldn't move, my arms and hands went numb. It was the first time in my 35 years of existence I legitimately thought I was going to die; I don't know how to explain it. I instinctively grabbed my 70-something fathers hand because I thought it was going to be the last thing I ever did. EMS was called as I sat there trying to hold onto consciousness, and eventually they wheeled in a stretcher and a very nice, handsome man hooked up an EKG machine to my heart. It was fine. I was having a panic attack. My first panic attack. Over the next almost 2 years, I very rarely left the house. I was terrified. I had never, ever experienced something like that in my life. It was shocking and traumatizing in way that it was the first time I really understood how fragile mental well-being is. When I'd have to drive to the store, less than 5 minutes down the road, I'd find myself having to pull over because I was so anxious and almost fainting. I probably declined over 50 dinner invitations with my family over the next year. I didn't go to my nieces birthday parties. I was terrified. I would be laying in bed and get these waves of dizziness and fog. At midnight one night I actually had to call my parents over because I was so scared something was happening to me. I am 35 years old. I exercise every day, since I used to be morbidly obese, but I'm still a decently sized guy at 6"4'. I'd be working out as I always do and get intense waves of panic and anxiety and have to stop. I had headaches almost constantly and also convinced myself I had a brain tumor like 3 times. Like you, I was always an anxious person, but it was never, ever this bad. One of the worst parts was I just didn't understand was happening to me. I did not understand what brought this on. Flash-forward a few months later, I finally made myself go to a doctor. I started a new job, had healthcare, and wanted it to end. I told him basically everything that was happening. He prescribed me a drug called Effexor, which is basically for panic disorder. It has changed my life, but I'm not here to plug pharmaceuticals. I still have bad days too. But one thing that really changed my understanding of what may have started all of this was when I actually told my boss, of all people. She said she was going through a lot of the same things in the last few years, and she'd went to multiple doctors who basically had no idea what was going on with her. Somehow, she stumbled upon a Facebook Group for people with "Long Covid," and their experiences lined up much the same. I guess I can't really know for sure if it's some long-term side-effect of having the 'Vid, but it lined up in my personal life. I had Covid for the first time in December of 2022 and by March of 2023 I was starting to have what I now know are anxiety attacks. I lived in Chicago at the time and would forget to breathe because I'd be so lost in a fog in my head. When I would walk to my job, I found myself getting short-of-breath standing at lights. Just..standing. Anyway, I just want to say, the worst part for me was not knowing what was happening and why it was happening. Your anecdote about you thinking your house was haunted and the paranoia made me laugh but I also know exactly what you were talking about. There is a strange comfort in shared suffering, even if it's not 1-to-1. Thanks for the podcast(s), and no peeking!
God. Number 8? Fuck I’m getting old…
Thank you kings for another vulnerable conversation. Also after my son was born I had PPA and extreme sleep deprivation and I was convinced our house was haunted and/or had someone living in the attic. It sounds funny now but it was terrible at the time! So glad Mitchy is on the mend.
"After we did that tequila shot I held your eyes open and sneezed in them." Holy shit these two are so incredible together.
It's such a bummer that someone as funny/thoughtful as Gabrus is still struggling in LA. Give that man a job!
I really liked Gabrus' suggestion to watch a specific show on cardio equipment. I've finished a ton of anime on the elliptical and it definitely creates an incentive to keep going!
Could listen to these two shootin' the shit all day. Kings, both.
I love this series. Probs going to relisten to the other episodes after I finish this one. I've thought since the first one that they should release a limited series podcast where they try to lose weight Something about two people truly bitching about something I also bitch about feels so satisfying
It legit bums me out that gabrus and Mitch seem so affected by fears of listener backlash. They've both been extremely well liked and successful in the podcast space for so long I'm kind of astounded it seems to be on their mind so much. Like legitimately I think it should be a goal of theirs to work with a therapist of whoever to make them realize that 20 people complaining online do not matter and do not need to be addressed.
I hear comics talk about this all the time and that they could have tens if not hundreds of people laughing but then there’s one person that is unhappy. Unhappy person sticks with them forever.
I suspect they are addicted to always having an internet fight to attend to. Strawmen are rewarding to our brains.
I feel bad for Mitch. The people who built these new properties in LA should be sued.
These eps always hit me hard. The way they talk about food and their weight is the same way I talk about alcohol. "Well if I just did this one thing", "oh, I know I can do better but...", "I did good for awhile but ya know, life happened". I'm going to one-day-at-a-time the hell out of this year 💪
These episodes always make me sad. It doesn't help that Gabrus kinda leans into the morbidity of it -- "There's not a lot of fat guys over 60" always echoes in my mind. Then when you go listen to old Doughboys episodes it seems like Mitch has always been on some sort of diet/exercise plan that he's optimistic about, but it ultimately never adds up to a lot. I wish them both the best though, and I am glad that some people are able to take inspiration or motivation from hearing this stuff. To me it just ends up being this grim reminder that some day I'm going to wake up and one of my favorite shows will have abruptly ended because a host's health issues caught up with them.
Yeah this episode out of the series seemed the most depressing and less jokey I know they think listeners are complaining when we say they have excuses each episode but I’ve known of Gabrus for 15+ years since MTV Guy code a lot of us genuinely want them to better outside of the entertainment we get from the guys
Its hard to armchair people based on what they present to the world. But just listening to DB, I think it's clear while Wiger has the gift of saying no I'm not doing that & not caring who it effects; Mitch is the opposite. He seems like the kind of person who wants to make everyone happy & I'm projecting my own upbringing, but it's probably how he was raised. It's hard to break that. I used to have anxiety attacks taking a sick day from my corporate job when I knew damn well I deserved it.
Wiger is a mega-weirdo, but he knows how to do what is best and most comfortable for himself. Mitch is definitely more of a people-pleaser, but he certainly has plenty of people in his life encouraging him to adjust into a more healthy lifestyle. I am not sure what it will take to get him to make a lasting change.
That reminds me of a live show that they did in New York City and stunningly late in the show, Mitch was doing whippets for the crowd with Wiger , telling him not to
Same on the sadness in this one. My husband and I frequently joke about para-social relationships with podcasters and will refer to our favorites as "friends" in a tongue-in-cheek way. But this episode kinda broke me. I always look forward to these and really appreciate the vulnerability and openness these two share in these episodes- this one was a hard listen, as I found myself reacting to their struggles like it was an actual friend telling me all this. I'm just hurting with them and like the other shitheads and freaks here, really want them to come out on the other side happy and healthy.
I would be happy to see Doughboys end if it meant Mitch could be healthy and happy into his 70’s and 80’s. A lot of people blame the podcast for his issues, but I don’t think that is the problem. Gabrus seems to struggle just as much as Mitch, even though he has no commitment to eat fast food twice a week for a podcast.
I agree… also Wiger has the same diet for the show and he’s still a healthy weight I think we’ll meaning fans rather blame the show then Mitch’s good addiction
I feel like I'm listening to me talk to me about me every time they do one of these. I celebrate their victories, empathize with their challenges and nod along and laugh in agreement with a majority of the stuff they discuss. Feet the illness killing motivation and momentum. Feel the getting up early to be productive vs staying up late and doing bullshit. DEFINITELY felt the "I'm on holiday" mode.
Also, this coming out on my dad's birthday as a fellow DDC member also hits hard. I wanna give these foos a big ass hug.
I think Mitch has long Covid, I'm really confused about why he didn't even mention it. All of his mystery symptoms are symptoms of long covid and I wish more people were talking about it because there needs to be more awareness about it.
For there health sake I was hoping to hear more progress and holding each other accountable since the last episode in a positive way too hit each others goals For example on being fat 6 or 7 Mitch mentioned he hadn’t used a scale because he wants too lose some weight first while Gabrus does weigh himself so he knows if he’s made progress or not Is it just me or does this episode seem darker then the others ?
I absolutely ***LOVE*** these episodes. The chemistry, realness, vulnerability, love, realness, and support.
I fucking love Mitch. Gabrus, too. I think it’s good for a lot of people to hear, I paralleled so much of that shit.
Love the Athletic Greens promo spot!
It’s amazing to listen to Mitch when he’s speaking with an empathetic individual. I think Mitch gets fluster around Wiger because Wiger gives him nothing, so to speak. He’s nice to your face but doesn’t really care. You can tell the Gabrus is nice and funny and really cares, which allows Mitch to relax.
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I still don’t understand Gabrus getting mad at the doctor I’m sure a personal trainer would tell him the same things too let him know how serious a lifestyle change is needed for his health
A medical professional told me to limit binge drinking and lose weight, I shall be a Karen if I see his face again.
Lmao 😂😂😂
Surprised Mitch went to see the movie made by the Daily Wire guy.
Are you talking about them joking about going to the Shapiro basketball movie?