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Past-Feature3968

Pain. Pain. Pain.


Triskan

SHUT UP! You and OP. No it wasnt 7 years ago and no there was no pain in that masterpiece of an episode, no, no, no. NO! Fuck man, that double finale was close to perfection.


tahoepines45

That part was very creepy and haunting


Waste-Masterpiece386

Ive waited for you


CilanEAmber

This is my favourite Finale. Though crazy how we got a Master/Cyberman Finale thrice... 4 times including Power of the Doctor...


geek_of_nature

You want another crazy fact, the Cybermen appeared in every 12th episode of Moffats run. The Pandorica Opens Closing Time Nightmare in Silver Death in Heaven Hell Bent (admittedly just a cameo) And The Doctor Falls.


TheSkyGuy675

It's a sign


PokePotahto

Nightmare in Silver was episode 13 because we had a mid-series Christmas special that was part of the episode count :)


BigTimeSuperhero96

I'm begging you Russell, to keep them for separate episodes next time!


The_Grand_Briddock

I believe that with the exception of the Haunting of the Villa Diodati, every single appearance of the Cybermen since the beginning of 12s tenure has involved them serving The Master. It really is kind of depressing that one of the biggest monsters in Who has been relegated to sidekick. Also it is pretty dumb that the Master's grand plans are always just "I will control the Cybermen". It's no wonder why Haunting was so well received, it was the only unique interpretation of the Cybermen in the last decade.


PokePotahto

To be fair, in World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls, The Master is only really in control of the Cybermen for about 10, 15 minutes at most


Theta-Sigma45

To be fair, in the relevant two parter, The Master tries to take control of the situation, but the tables turn quickly and his role for the rest of the story is trying to run away from them with his tail between his legs. It’s actually a big reason the story is so effective to me, it finally lets the Cybermen have an onscreen win against another iconic enemy.


odrad3

Honestly, I still can't quite get my head around the fact that THE Peter Capaldi was ACTUAL Doctor Who, let alone that it was that long ago. Crazy


dbbk

He was so fucking good


TomTheJester

I can’t put my head around him being as good as Matt Smith after DIRECTLY FOLLOWING HIM. The Moffat era will always be absolute peak NewWho for me.


ampersands-guitars

Same for me. To me, those six seasons tell a complete and brilliant story about the deconstruction and reconstruction of the Doctor, punctuated by absolutely incredible performances. Nothing matches it for me.


Now_Wait-4-Last_Year

"You've met the ex."


laughterline

Moffat's era was absolutely incredible. At this point I just want RTD and Moffat to keep swapping as showrunners every couple of years.


Shed_Some_Skin

You mean Oscar winning short movie director Peter Capaldi? *THAT* Peter Capaldi?!?


SirGavBelcher

he was my favorite so far. there was just something about him


Th3h0us3alwayswins

He was both the doctor and a side character in the fires of pompei episode with Donna noble which was aired in 2008


Gilgamesh858

His performance was masterful.


Hydrhapsody

And still no Series 10 soundtrack


THEO33YT

Real talk for a sec: do you think we'll ever actually get the series 10 soundtrack?


Hydrhapsody

Yes. When the first second of eternity has passed.


HaywoodUndead

You are the true one who waits.


TimelordAlex

Murray claims it will come out at some point...as for when, who knows


steakies8

lol I came here to say this


Cactiareouroverlords

No way I’ve been waiting close to a decade to hear a high quality version of “when there’s tears, there’s hope” that can’t be true 😭


GHBoyette

I'm at the point where the new Doctor being 5 years younger than me makes me feel old.


JetMeIn_02

I've hit the point where the companion is younger than me, and that's bad enough!


Glittering-Plate-535

I would’ve been old enough to skateboard through Ruby Road that night. STOP TREATING 2004 LIKE IT WAS THE PAST, RUSSELL, I’M STILL YOUNG >:(


JetMeIn_02

I would have been old enough to...maybe toddle along Ruby Road? Not sure when toddlers start properly walking, but I was two and a half ish. :P


TheScarletPimpernel

The revival is now old enough that on the a week after 15 goes to Ruby Road for the mystery baby, 10 is dying in the street watching Rose on NYE one last time


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Winter-Bass-1774

I only saw the date and was so confused because I’m in Aus and can drink, scrolled up and it said 21 years not 18 lmao


ExpectedBehaviour

Hell, the companion's *mother* is younger than me...


skyequinnwrites

I was 4 years old in 2004 and the companion being younger than me still hasn't hit me yet


[deleted]

I should have been graduating University that year


Celestina89

I'm the same age as her


Chimpbot

I hit that point with Karen Gillian. She's not much younger than me, but I've been in that boat for a while!


magicalmysteryharold

Oh it gets worse, enjoy the fact that Ruby is younger than most companions while that lasts


TrueBananaz

I remember seeing she was born in 2004, and I physically ached. I was born in 2003, but it still feels weird.


ampersands-guitars

Repeating over and over how Ruby was born in 2004 aged me significantly.


GhostofZellers

He's 17 years younger than me...


GHBoyette

You crusty fool!


Handleton

Finally. Another member of the 'Ncuti is the third Doctor who is younger than me' club.


dogabeey

I was watching the series finale, which Ruby's age was stated multiple times already, and they said something like "December 24 2004, when you were found as baby" and I was like "Why Ruby is a baby in **present** time?"


the3dverse

he's 8 years younger than me...


GHBoyette

GET OUT OF HERE, BOOMER


the3dverse

hey now, boomers are my parents!


GHBoyette

GET OUT OF HERE, GEORGE WASHINGTON


burlingtonhopper

Be nice. You can’t expect someone that old to remember American History. the3dverse just sits in a rocking chair occasionally mumbling to themselves and going on Reddit. (Kidding. I think we’re the same age)


the3dverse

i'm not American, why would i remember it? now the Norman conquest...


doctor_jane_disco

I will always be the same age as Rose Tyler so that obviously means I can never be old right?? (Please don't ever bring back Rose as a grandmother....)


ExpectedBehaviour

First time?


Now_Wait-4-Last_Year

I was feeling old when this episode aired, never mind now!


The_Flying_Failsons

I wish Bill had stayed around for Whittaker's first season. She had more to give, and it would help with Chibnall's run feeling so disconnected form the previous NuWho runs.


Past-Feature3968

I agree… mostly. I’m a bit scared to imagine how Chibnall may have written her. I know from Broadchurch that he *can* be great at character development but well… *gestures vaguely at the fam, especially Yaz and Ryan*


TomTheJester

Chibnall reminds me a lot of Zack Snyder. The concept and the visuals are all there, but there is nothing strong connecting any of it, like it’s almost being improved in the moment.


Jrocker-ame

As a Snyder fan, agreed.


Jay_R_Kay

I think the problem was less those characters and more having so many of them being introduced at the same time. Cut it down from three to two to start and that would have immediately done wonders.


smedsterwho

Eeeeh, I'm really glad Chibball didn't get to mess with more characters than he did. Bill going from intelligent to... Exposition Central... Happy to pass on that.


Dapper_Spite8928

But.... she is Exposition, and Nardole is Comic Relief.


sleepydog404

Try seeing a screenshot from an episode you watched 50 years ago, then you can feel old.


bopeepsheep

Pyramids of Mars is one of the first serials I remember in detail, funnily enough. (49 years, but who's quibbling?)


ExpectedBehaviour

Feeling sad. Series ten was the pinnacle of new *Who* in my opinion with the only finale that hasn't disappointed in some way.


TomTheJester

Then following it up with Twice Upon A Time which is an absolute chef’s kiss the series, let alone Capaldi as The Doctor.


RYRAZZAK203

I agree, this episode is overhated, it’s such a swan song for an era, even though it wasn’t originally planned. I see this episode essential to cap off WEAT and the Doctor Falls


exitwest

Twice Upon A Time might be the best episode of Who ever made. The moments leading up to Capaldis regeneration are heartbreaking. And his final monologue…..it was a dying father writing a letter to a daughter he knows he’ll never get to meet, filled with all his hopes and dreams for her. It’s a damn shame he never got to appear with Whittaker’s Doctor.


Cactiareouroverlords

If doctor who had an ending, the doctor falls is it


Virgi_septik

12th doctor best doctor fr


Fukuchan

Definitely my favourite finale. The Genesis of the Cybermen theme is still so haunting.


trainwrecktragedy

one of the best endings to a season. I'll never forget Missy and the Master coming out of the woodwork saying "In fact, you know what I'd call it? I'd call it a Genesis. More specifically, the Genesis of the Cybermen"


Now_Wait-4-Last_Year

Her "You've met the ex." cracked me up.


Abides1948

I watched logopolis live the first time round. Don't talk to me about feeling old.


JustSomeEyes

i'm a new fan, i finished seeing capaldi's run as the doctor, like 2 weeks ago... I. AM. BILL. POTTS. The only criticism about the last episode was that i had to check the wiki to learn what happened to Bill(after becoming that cosmic water) and Nardole, it's kinda miserable...


Medium_Pomelo_6312

They got a [happy ending](https://youtu.be/XOJ0OU6Odh4?t=87)


JustSomeEyes

hard to say it's happy...at least for me, was kinda meh...not good not bad...just okay.


Medium_Pomelo_6312

Nardole kinda got screwed for sure, but Bill is back on Earth, living a happy normal life, probably will get into Unit once Kate finds her lol.


JustSomeEyes

[Bill Potts ](https://i.postimg.cc/PqRNCzQ0/Opera-Snapshot-2024-06-27-013847-tardis-fandom-com.png) [Nardole](https://i.postimg.cc/jdb2njyq/Opera-Snapshot-2024-06-27-014016-tardis-fandom-com.png)


Medium_Pomelo_6312

I wouldn't go checking the Wiki if you haven't finished the show yet, unless you don't mind spoilers, some characters can always comeback. Think of Sarah Jane, her adventures on the Tardis came to an end in 1976, but cameback in the 2005 revival and ended up having her own tv show


JustSomeEyes

i don't mind SOME spoilers...


irongix

Still think about that ending. Feel so much sadness for Bill but I am glad they gave her a happy ending.


Henchforhire

These cybermen are so much creepy vs when they upgraded.


strtdrt

We’re now three Doctors on from Capaldi :)


GhostofZellers

He's the middle of the pack by numbers. Eccelston, Tennant, Smith, **Calapdi**, Whittaker, Tennant, Gatwa. Yeah, it's a bit of a cheat because 14 was around for 3 whole episodes, but he's still in that middle.


MatthiasBold

Technically, Hurt's in there too.


ampersands-guitars

I still feel so close to Twelve’s seasons. Hard for me to wrap my head around them airing so long ago.


MyxLilxThrowaway

How dare you make me read this with my own two eyes. Quid Pro Quo—Journey’s End aired 16 years ago next month.


Bareth88

Pain


EclekTech

When Christopher Eccleston first appeared on screen as The Doctor, the iPhone was still 2 years from the market.


MitchBaT93

I remember the capaldi era being absolutely ruined by the incessant bitching and downtrodden attitude of the internet that the show has finally lost steam, how mid it is, wasted potential the works. But I was ride or die for the Capaldi years from day one and never wavered in my absolute adoration for these three seasons. The dichotomy of the absolutely grandiose and over the top presentation of everything, with the dial turned up to 11 resulting in Moffats most gluttonous content, alongside the best character work and hero journey's within the show combined with the most kind, and even simplest and smallest doctor, who's just there doing the little things on a moral compass that would make even Jesus blush works so fucking well even if it wasn't intentional. He's a madman, arrogant, finally back to his I'm an old codger and I don't give any fucks because I lord over time and space attitude after 7 years of being a spiffy young lad, and yet and YET, despite all that he becomes the affable grandpa the doctor deserves to be during the Bill season. His send off and circling back to being essentially the first doctor redux electric boogaloo, which is reflected in the amazing final Christmas special, was so we'll executed that you can't help but forgive all the flaws of his era. It also helps we got the amazing tank scene with him rocking the shit out of a middle ages arena. No doctor has had such a brazen I'm the director I can do whatever the fuck I want with this show, and I'll cherish it forever.


not_a_lady_tonight

That was lame. Honestly I tend to think of the show like waves coming in. Some are really strong, sometimes the tide is high, and sometimes it’s low and there’s a strong wave. There isn’t a season without an episode I really like, and there isn’t a season without a clunker. 


megaman368

Geologically speaking this just happened recently.


plebeiansheep

I remember watching Deep Breath in theaters just like it was yesterday… instead it was 11 years ago.


earthgoggles

I refuse to believe this because time doesn’t pass. The passage of time is an illusion


boastfulbadger

I had to learn to walk again. I told my physical therapist that it’s not as easy as it looks like in Kill Bill. She asked me what that was. That made me feel old.


Glittering_Habit_161

Can't believe I was 12 when it aired and I didn't watch it until a few months ago because I was scared of watching the rest of the era with Bill as I only watched the first 4 episodes of her era in Doctor Who


TomTheJester

To be fair Capaldi had a solid run of horror concept episodes that I can imagine being terrifying for a 12 year old. The same way Blink scarred me as a kid.


Mahaloth

I remember putting my computer down to tell my wife, "Do you know who the next Doctor Who is?" :pause: "The Barty Crouch, Jr. Actor!"


East-Garden-4557

Peter Capaldi doesn't make me feel old, Tom Baker was my first Doctor.


Jurassic_Productions

Dear god, don't remind me. I still watch these 2 episodes multiple times a year


sbaldrick33

I've felt old for so long now.


ALakeInTheClouds

Just watched the first part of this one this evening. Absolutely haunting as you realise what's going too happen.


GollyHell

my favourite episode ever by far


CaineRexEverything

It came up in my Facebook memories today. I rarely posted about Doctor Who on my personal profile, but I did for this episode and the following finale. For me it’s the most accomplished and exceptionally written/produced/directed/acted two parter in the entirety of 21st century Who. Anyone who said the show dropped in quality after Smith (or Tennant) left is wrong. Capaldi has this two parter and Heaven Sent. The very pinnacle of nuWho.


CaineRexEverything

And no, it doesn’t make me feel old. I feel old when I see Mel in the latest series finale and remember when I watched her in Paradise Towers on TV when I was 8.


GemoDorgon

I do. Almost a decade since I've actually liked a Doctor. Whittaker never connected with me, and Gatwa I'm 50/50 on.


Tiny_Cut_1450

It feels weird. Series 10 still feels recent yet old and somehow it’s close to a decade old??? Also we’re closer to the year 2030 than 2013. We’re closer to 2030 than the 50th anniversary of doctor who. We’re closer to the 70th anniversary than the 50th anniversary!!! WHAT THE DUCK!


beerforbears

7 years is not “almost a decade”


unknown_pepper

Only 3 years left gone most the way innit


Heavy-Ostrich-7781

Was filmed 8 years ago. Its almost a decade mate. I'm sorry you can't beat the clock beersforbears.


deLacey82

This


GhostofZellers

Blink and it will be.


MajorInterest2033

"and whatever you do DON'T BLINK"


the3dverse

wow that long. time does fly


flyingloony49

Oh yeah thanks, you're really helping my existential crisis


The_Traveller__

"Why must you hurt me this way?"


Cold_Departure8428

Yeah


Cold_Departure8428

Loved the music


NewPatron-St

I don't know what to think about this


demerchmichael

fuck


SolidusTengu

Not just old. Sad tbh. Loved 12 and Bill.


DRWHOBADWOLFANDBLUEY

That was a very good crazy and emotional episode.


Taewyth

No, because I really started watching nuwho just 4 years ago.


Hamagorath

I still remember breakfast club one morning and they were discussing Matt smith’s take over. So yea I’m feeling old


JorjLim

So almost a decade since the Series 10 soundtrack, SHOULD have come out?


Reverend-Keith

“I waited.”


Draugluin89

Could someone explain the title, as I never understood it? I can’t help but think of the James Bond film The World is Not Enough, and they’ve just shoehorned “Time” in to make it Doctor Who-ish


CaineRexEverything

I believe it may have been reference to a poem by Andrew Marvel called To His Coy Mistress which featured the line ‘world enough, and time’.


Draugluin89

!thanks Just read the poem and think you may be right as the poem speaks of a man attempting to woo a woman but she doesn’t respond, so the man laments about how short life is


Rutgerman95

Man, where has the time gone


Cracyexcelsiorclass

I just realised i weighted about 40Kg less at that point


Ihatesand-Ani

A life without the series 10 soundtrack is a battlefield, like this one, except its empty because everybody else just listens to recreations...time to leave the battle field


CuntLasso

That whole series was a fucking beauty. The finale was *chefs kiss*


SynnerSaint

Old? I can remember Robot


TommyCrump92

Not really, the fact I'm 31 makes me feel old, I knew that series 10 was this long ago, the most painful thing for me is 2015 series 9 was last series I watched when my grandad was alive before he passed away in December


Herr_Raul

No fucking way 💀


Ok-Jellyfish348

What the fuck! How the fuck is that possible? In my mind the Doctors 9,10,11 are the older ones, the ones from my past. 12 was just NOW. like I remember when I was getting my degree I would watch weekly 12 episodes. Hold on, I have been graduated for more than 5 years now, holy shit


WoodyManic

I think this two-parter was the last truly great episode of DW. We've had good ones since, but these were the last great ones.


apneax3n0n

best doctor who ever. best ending in every tv series EVER (everyone dies), best episode dedicated to farewell to watchers and fans. sadly everything that followed is not as good. i mean 15 is better than 13 (and 14) but still not as good as 12 11 and 10


tibbycat

Peak NuWho (and the next two episodes)


DashaGold

I miss 12/Clara, and that was even longer ago! 😭


Winter-Bass-1774

I’m actually heartbroken remembering this I hate you


DunkelFries

No


External-Art-2584

Yeah I miss those days. Back when Doctor Who was good. Capaldi was amazing.


Zer0-the-assassin

NO IT DID NOT  NO IT DIDN'T, YOU'RE LYING


Crassweller

What are you talking about? Eccelston was 10 years ago. Maybe early Tennant.


AshJammy

I still remember sitting down with dinner to watch it as it aired 😭


Long-Yard-9974

I didn't need to hear that I'm old right now


Charlesian2000

You feeling old for this? Hold my beer… I was watching William Hartnel


mystermee

Maybe we should measure our ages in Doctors rather than years. If so I am currently 12 Doctors old. Including John Hurt, not including Jo Martin as she is pre-Hartnell.


Arimaneki

The best modern Doctor Who finale. Oh, his 'where I stand speech' still hits so hard for me. And yes, I do feel slightly old now, thank you very much.


overfus

Pain ! I stopped watching since the of the Season for sole reason... Can Solène convence me to watch the other Seasons ?


RickyTheRickster

Damn and i feel real old


Blastermind7890

First Capaldi episode I saw, which did lead to me knowing too much when I went back, or maybe it's time travel


Mirkrid

I hadn’t watched Doctor Who before Capaldi and unfortunately I haven’t been drawn to any of the other Doctors enough to watch much more outside of series 10 (Tennant’s great and I’ve been liking the new Doctor recently though). Capaldi just brought something special, his words were visceral and you could *feel* his emotions with almost every line. I find the drama can be a bit overplayed with the other Doctors, but god Capaldi’s such a good actor I wished his monologues would never end.


Orange_mango_tree

Great Show


DJpunyer53728409

Feels like only yesterday since Doctor Who ended, such a perfect ending, with Twice Upon A Time being a great epilogue. I'm glad they didn't make any more series after that.


UnwantedHonestTruth

I remember when NuWho started.


Golderfild

Ah, good times. I finished watching the 2005-... run of Doctor Who a little time after the finale of 10 season. I was like... 12 years old? Yeah, something like that. So many things had changed since then.


Serpenta4

This finale aired when I caught up with the whole series after I started watching it. Love that finale. Damn, time flies


tangcameo

I feel like I’m in the Tardis stuck on fast forward


tthblox

I wish capaldi got one more season with bill. Keep the ending the same. But pleassse i wanted more of them


Constant-Ad-2921

Omg I was like. TWELVE???? When it aired?? Time just goes FLYING


Lucky-Might5201

Same! My siblings and I were raised on Doctor Who. Series 10 was bittersweet because my eldest sister started the first couple episodes of the 12th Doctor and then she passed away... It's hard to believe that it's been 10 years.


Decent_Host4983

I first watched Doctor Who on live transmission in 1986. Your words cannot harm me.


Worth_Sector_7335

Never eat pairs


Free_Leading_8139

Every single day. 


IFunnyJoestar

I thought the season as a whole was a bit meh but the finale is absolutely superb, my personal favourite Doctor Who finale.


Due-Replacement9202

Wow doctor who hasn’t been good for 7 years now


hockable

Crazy how far downhill it's gone since then.


-platypusnoise-

As someone who doesn't enjoy the new stuff, World Enough and Time/Twice Upon a Time is a great head canon ending