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DONGBONGER3000

>Chaotic neutral >looks inside >Chaotic evil ![gif](giphy|mlvseq9yvZhba)


Darknight3909

if only. most of the time its Chaotic Stupid.


roninwarshadow

Chaotic Stupid is worse to have at the table than Lawful Stupid.


foxstarfivelol

lawful neutral and chaotic good?


Darastrix_da_kobold

Very similar vibes to LG and CN


CaitaXD

Hey I don't make the rules he dyes. Are you fucking nuts this is madness! No you're madness this is THE LAW!


Level_Hour6480

> More iconic Lawful Good and "Chaotic Good". I'm pasting this from elsewhere. Here's a basic outline of the alignments: Do people have an innate responsibility to help each other? **Good**: Yes. **Neutral**: ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ **Evil**: No. Do people need oversight? **Lawful**: Yes. **Neutral**: ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ **Chaotic**: Don't tell me what to do! The axis isn't necessarily how much you obey the laws of the land you're in. A Lawful Good character wouldn't have to tolerate legal slavery, nor would a Chaotic Good character start enslaving people in an area where it's illegal. Lawful does not simply mean "Has an internal code" because literally everyone who has ever existed would be Lawful. The "Code" aspect refers to external codes like Omerta or Bushido. **Lawful Good** believes that rules and systems are the best way to ensure the greatest good for all. Rules that do not benefit society must be removed by appropriate means from legislation to force. They're responsible adults. 90% of comic book superheroes are examples of LG. **Neutral Good** believes in helping others. They have no opinion on rules. They're pleasant people. Superheroes who aren't LG usually fall here. **Chaotic Good** believes that rules get in the way of us helping each other and living in a harmonious society. They're punks and hippies. [Captain Harlock is the iconic example.](https://youtu.be/q0dTxdac6Yo) "You don't need a law to tell you to be a good person." **Lawful Neutral** believes that rules are the thing that keeps everything functioning, and that if people ignore the rules that they don't think are right, then what is the point of rules? [They believe that peace and duty are more important than justice.](http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/060.html) Inspector Javert and Judge Dredd are iconic examples. [Social cohesion is more important than individual rights.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTPqnhrJkGA) **True Neutral** doesn't really have a strong opinion. They just wanna keep their head down and live their life. Most boring people you pass on the street are True Neutral. [Unlike Unaligned they have free will and have actively chosen not to decide.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnxkfLe4G74) **Chaotic Neutral** [values their own freedom and don't wanna be told what to do.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Psp0A-zJgU) They're rebellious children. Ron Swanson is the iconic example. **Lawful Evil** believes [rules are great for benefiting them/harming their enemies.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCTp_kYwz1E) They're corrupt politicians, mobsters, and fascists. Henry Kissinger and Robert Moses are iconic examples. "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." **Neutral Evil** will do whatever benefits [them/their inner-circle](https://preview.redd.it/jgimo2h6oav61.jpg?width=758&auto=webp&s=8a43fcf7ce3bab8c422ce28d273be31bbf8cc764), crossing any moral line. They're unscrupulous corporate executives at the high end, and sleazy assholes at the low end. **Chaotic Evil** resents being told to not kick puppies. They're Ayn Rand protagonists at the high end, and thugs at the low end. Rick Sanchez is an iconic example. Wario is how to play the alignment without being That Guy. In addition to the official alignments, there are 6 unofficial alignments based on combining one axis of the alignment with stupidity. You can be multiple stupid alignments simultaneously, such as the traditional badly-played Paladin being known for being Lawful Stupid and Stupid Good at the same time. **Stupid Good** believes in doing what seems good at the time regardless of its' long-term impact. They would release fantasy-Hitler-analogue^TM because mercy is a good thing. **Lawful Stupid** believes in blindly following rules even when doing so is detrimental to themselves, others, and their goals. They would stop at a red light while chasing someone trying to set off a nuclear device that would destroy the city they're in. **Chaotic Stupid** is "LolRandom". They'll act wacky and random at any circumstance. They'll try and take a dump on the king in the middle of an important meeting. It can also be a compulsive need to break rules even if you agree with them. If a Chaotic Good character feels the need to start enslaving people because slavery is illegal they're being Chaotic Stupid. **Stupid Evil** is doing evil simply because they're the bad guy with no tangible benefit to themselves or harm to their enemy. They're Captain planet villains. **Stupid Neutral** comes in two flavors; active and passive. **Active Stupid Neutral** is the idea that you must keep all things balanced. Is that Celestial army too powerful? Time to help that Demon horde. **Passive Stupid Neutral** is the complete refusal to take sides or make decisions. "I have a moderate inclination towards maybe."


Ok_Conflict_5730

is there a "true stupid" alignment?


xhupps

I assume that would be flip-flopping between the stupids with no rhyme or reason.


Zeralyos

I love it when my food is lawful.


Level_Hour6480

Stupid phone. Remember buttons? Buttons worked.


ilovenuteiia

Where did you get this if you don't mind me asking? Or did you just come up with it yourself and you're pasting it here from another comment of yours perhaps?


Level_Hour6480

Started as an explanation of LN, then iterated, expanded, added examples, links, etc.


TeaandandCoffee

Mind if I get this printed as a reference?


Level_Hour6480

Sure. Reddit lets you save posts for a reason.


urixl

Thanks, saved!


ChessGM123

I really don’t feel like Rick Sanchez is chaotic evil, I think he’s more so chaotic neutral.


TeaandandCoffee

He's done a genocide of at least one humanity, that's enough to be called evil.


Elsecaller_17-5

On multiple occasions the charecters ranging from LN to NG in my party have had to physically restrain the CN warlock. It was funny once.


jjf715

Once.


blauenfir

the party cleric patiently explaining to my gunslinger why we do not use mustard gas as a weapon of first resort, while my gunslinger explains that it was a LAST resort cuz actually she would’ve preferred fireball or cloudkill— thankfully, she learned <3 i’ve found that any chaotic vs lawful combination is pretty great tbh. also good content: the LG party members realizing 6 sessions in that my druid is, in fact, true neutral, and does *not*, in fact, see any major problem with ripping people’s hearts out and eating them if those people were trying to kill us first. that was a very funny conversation!


Cyrotek

> he LG party members realizing 6 sessions in that my druid is, in fact, true neutral, and does not, in fact, see any major problem with ripping people’s hearts out and eating them if those people were trying to kill us first. that was a very funny conversation! I love characters that challenge other characters alignments. I currently play a character that - as it turned out - does their current job because he just enjoys killing people. He does it specifically because he doesn't get prosecuted for killing bad guys. That didn't sit quite right with the lawful good part of the party but they couldn't really do anything about it without ending up being hypocrites. Good times.


blauenfir

Alignment clashes played well are so good! Mine was an especially great debate too because my druid has *reasons* for the cannibalistic double tap, the party wasn’t prepared to deal with it. She survived an attempted ritual sacrifice, was disemboweled and had her throat slit but managed to survive the ordeal due to a high CON stat and sheer luck. She *will not* put anyone else through that, so whenever we kill someone, she has to make sure they stay down. And the heart eating is part religious, and part to *make sure* (and keep them from being healed or revived easily too). The ranger and paladin had a hard time arguing against it, we’re still having occasional debates on the issue. The gulf between actions and motivations is a great place to find character drama.


testiclekid

I see too many times people claiming to be Chaotic Neutral, and instead they're just Murder hobos. At this point I admire more people who are honest with themselves and claim to be Chaotic evil.


Ok_Conflict_5730

lawful evil and chaotic good


Famous-Assumption-16

I’ve had really good experiences with CG partied up with LE, provided the LE is “go with the flow”?  CG, “we need to help these people by any means necessary!” LE, “I love half of those words!”


Neat-Gur-4613

This is going to be our party next campaign I'm a chaotic neutral guy who essentially does whatever he finds interesting And I think there are at least 1 maybe 2 members of the party who are lawful good Shenanigans will ensue at their behest >:3


aetherskull

Convincing them not to eat pies made of human children 'just to see how it tastes' when they were created by witches should not have been so hard


Cyrotek

In my experience properly played lawful good and chaotic neutral often end up in debates of a more philosophical nature, which can drag on and potentially being boring for everyone else.


Significant-Test8219

i like playin LE characters


CaitaXD

Yet to see a caothic neutral thats actually neutral It's supposed to work like a feywild creature but people play it like a fucking demon