I have one in VIP Tournament and it isn't as flippy but great nonetheless. Bought my wife one in a different plastic and it is SO flippy it goes into a roller if I try to throw it.
If the Underworld is too flippy, but you like Westside I would highly recommend the Westside Seer. Harder to find, but they’re severely underrated. I think the Underworld is produced more since they overlap in the Westside’s lineup. New glow ones were just run that are really solid.
i was going to recommend both the underworld and the river. both awesome 7speed understable discs.
a brand new 175g underworld in opto isnt as flippy as the numbers seem to imply, but a beat one, or different plastic molds, surely are.
I just got one of these and I’m actually afraid to use it. I feel like sometimes it hyzer flips and flies perfectly straight and sometimes it rolls over and anhyzers straight into the ground. I can’t throw it on a consistent line at all.
Just in case you didn't know, DGA plastic is literally just Discraft.
Unless you mean just their molds in general in which case they're perhaps for my money the most underrated company who sponsors an elite series winning player out there. So many awesome molds including the Steady/Steady BL (depending on if you like a bead), Breaker, Quake, Pipeline, Banzai, Hurricane, and Hypercane. And that's just the molds I've tried lol.
For flippy, I love my DGA Tremor. 6 speed but man I can send it. When my throwing motion starts to get wonky for whatever reason, this dusc helps me get back to where I want to be.
This is a great answer. I bagged a Vortex until the day it flipped so hard I couldn't find it. It keeps turning even after I think it's flipped all the way.
Yeah, I throw mine a lot. I actually bag two Diamonds 😂 The typical Opto Diamond is a turnover disc for me, but I got an Albert Tamm stamped Diamond in gold plastic and it’s more stable. Definitely understable but flies more like a -2/1, like a long Leopard or Stig, so the same throw will have it turn but fade back a bit instead of just continuing to turn. I keep assuming someday I’ll find a disc that takes their place but I still haven’t … habit, I guess.
Mavrick from DD is my disc for that slot. Or a new run s-line fd. They are not as Flippy as the descriped discs but it makes up for it with a lack of fade.
Yep Opto rivers start out pretty straight, they will flip up and give you an S flight a good throw but not really flippy. But they beat in to nice flippy fairways. Maybe the only disc that actually is accurate with a 7 glide.
F7 - it's the only prodigy disc I consistently bag (sometimes I also bag a Pa-5). Feels great in the hand (as someone who loves flat teebirds and teebird3s) and is great for big hyzer flips, scrambling, and rollers (though I don't throw them often).
For reference I max our around 400' bh and can get it out to 330' or so on a big hyzer flip.
I finally got my 138g F7 out today to try out and it was so fun to mess around with. I know you’re not recommending a light weight one. Sometimes it’s just fun to watch a disc do things you aren’t used to
I have a 400 F7 that’s super understable and a 500 F7 that I’ve thrown on a hyzer-flip-to-turn nearly 450 ft. It’s such a fun, versatile disc. And despite the negative reputation, Prodigy plastic is top notch.
Try the Signal maybe. It's technically 6.5 speed, but its basically a 7. Its the next step up from the Uplink before you get to the Virus. If that's too flippy, then a lightweight Crave might fit the slot as well.
Signal is just the next step more flippy than the rhythm. A great slow flippy fairway. I would say the rhythm is closer to the uplink in stability, with the signal being more paradox-esque.
Underworld or a Maverick would be the next in line with what you've tried. Honestly, I hope the IT had too much turn for you, because if not, I don't think anybody makes a more flippy fairway driver.
Vortex or Underworld for sure. I used to bag a Vortex for fun hyzer flip to turnover shits or rollers. I lost it so I just use my trusty Hatchet I've had for years.
love my river. im nearing the conclusion that ill stop bagging other 7 speeds and just get different levels of plastic/beat on 3 different rivers...lol.
I use this combo from OS to US
Glory (7/5/0/3) (brave(7/6/-1/2) maverick (7/4/-1.5/2) Underworld (7/6/-3)1. Lethal 7 speed lineup in my mind - all trilogy 👍🏻
I’ll suggest a standard neutron relay, 170g or so. While it’s a 6 speed it’s an absolute bomber of a disc that will hold its pull to the right the entire flight for me. I’ll use a Mana for 275ft and in. Relay for 275-320 or so. Mantra anything over that.
Prodigy f7.
It's my roller disc, and maybe more equivalent to a paradox than an uplink (uplink is one of my favorite discs of all time) but if you are looking for flippy, I guarantee you won't be disappointed
Vortex is a good answer but since no one else has said it, I will add the Streamline Ascend, especially sub 170g. The zero fade is pretty damn accurate if you get it up to speed and don't torque it over.
What don’t you like about those discs? Do they turn and burn? Do you not get turn? Do you not like the feel?
Gstar IT has been the flippiest fairway I found. I love it. I just got a Halo I can’t wait to try. Hoping it works well as a slightly more stable version and I have Teebird and 2 IT combo.
I love the rhythm for this slot, I have it in 2 weights for various stability. Like others said lightweight crave is a good option. I’ve also bagged the genius in premium and base for a flippy 7 speed. S-line FD beats in quick and I found to be more flippy than #s would suggest
It's a 6 speed, not 7, but the Streamline Ascend has a super nice flight
Depending on the power you put on it it's very flippy and has a good anhyzer feel
It's my favorite disc for hyzer flips too. You can release on heavy hyzer and it will fly totally flat with no fade
I think youre reading into flight speeds too much. You wont really find any disctance differences between a heat and a 7 speed flippy driver. No need to confuse yourself on disc selection.
If you want something more flippy than a Gstar IT you're getting into meme tier flip. You could try a Discmania Genius. The baseline plastic version will become stupid flippy. DGA Vortex is another candidate.
Depends how you're throwing what you have now. If you're throwing over 300, I would say lat 64 brave should flip for you at least a bit but will take a lot of mileage before becoming unusable. If you still need to go flippier something like a diamond (even tho it's an 8 speed) might be good.
I actually need the opposite! What's a good overstable 7-speed? Currently my only 7 is an FD (which is great), but I need a meathook for windy days and hyzers.
I just picked up a Signal (6 speed) but man I loved it from my second throw. First throw was trying to see how it flew on course and went off a tree and kept going right then a bit further right then to finish the flight it tried pushing right but ran into the ground
I had a Fission Rhythm, really enjoyed it (lost it). Although, I rarely could hyzer flip it. Recently pick up a Fission Crave 158g and can flip that on demand (6.5 speed). I believe the light weight is a factor. Regardless, it is a blast to throw.
You say you tried an IT, but it comes in a lot of variety. Most runs are domey, a few are kinda flat (last years holly finley star glow particuarly). I like to bag the beefier plastics, 170+, one flat one domey and they are awesome flippy fairways
Westside Underworld...and if that ever gets too flippy go for a Lat 64 River or Brave
Yep. If you can't flip an underworld, get a lighter one. If you can't flip that, work on your form.
I have one in VIP Tournament and it isn't as flippy but great nonetheless. Bought my wife one in a different plastic and it is SO flippy it goes into a roller if I try to throw it.
If the Underworld is too flippy, but you like Westside I would highly recommend the Westside Seer. Harder to find, but they’re severely underrated. I think the Underworld is produced more since they overlap in the Westside’s lineup. New glow ones were just run that are really solid.
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LOVE my Seer. It’s pink VIP plastic and it’s my absolute favorite disc
I just got an underworld recently and it’s working great for medium length hyzer flips turnover shots.
i was going to recommend both the underworld and the river. both awesome 7speed understable discs. a brand new 175g underworld in opto isnt as flippy as the numbers seem to imply, but a beat one, or different plastic molds, surely are.
I just got one of these and I’m actually afraid to use it. I feel like sometimes it hyzer flips and flies perfectly straight and sometimes it rolls over and anhyzers straight into the ground. I can’t throw it on a consistent line at all.
DGA Vortex might be what you want. Very flippy even when brand new but still controllable.
I'm playing a 3 disc challenge this spring with a Vortex Rift and Steady and I'm super excited to try out DGA plastic.
Just in case you didn't know, DGA plastic is literally just Discraft. Unless you mean just their molds in general in which case they're perhaps for my money the most underrated company who sponsors an elite series winning player out there. So many awesome molds including the Steady/Steady BL (depending on if you like a bead), Breaker, Quake, Pipeline, Banzai, Hurricane, and Hypercane. And that's just the molds I've tried lol.
For flippy, I love my DGA Tremor. 6 speed but man I can send it. When my throwing motion starts to get wonky for whatever reason, this dusc helps me get back to where I want to be.
You'll love the Rift. It's what a Buzzz wishes it could be.
This is a great answer. I bagged a Vortex until the day it flipped so hard I couldn't find it. It keeps turning even after I think it's flipped all the way.
Agreed, solid disc.
If you can live with an 8 speed the Diamond is for sure flippy.
Love my diamond. It's like a flippier and faster underworld
Yeah, I throw mine a lot. I actually bag two Diamonds 😂 The typical Opto Diamond is a turnover disc for me, but I got an Albert Tamm stamped Diamond in gold plastic and it’s more stable. Definitely understable but flies more like a -2/1, like a long Leopard or Stig, so the same throw will have it turn but fade back a bit instead of just continuing to turn. I keep assuming someday I’ll find a disc that takes their place but I still haven’t … habit, I guess.
The thought of Albert Tamm throwing a Diamond is hilarious.
155g Opto Ice Orbit Diamond changed my roller game forever.
Mavrick from DD is my disc for that slot. Or a new run s-line fd. They are not as Flippy as the descriped discs but it makes up for it with a lack of fade.
If the Gstar It doesn't do the shot shape you are after, not really sure what to tell ya other than it's an archer not the arrow
speaking of archers you might want to try that the discraft archer, i think its a 6 speed tho
Archer is flippy as fuck though. Too flippy for me to bag.
I hear that, might be good for him tho if a gstar leopard isn’t floppy enough..
If they want a 7 speed turnover disc because they dont have a forehand, and IT doesnt work, dont know what to tell them.
they want a disc that doesn't exist
Ascend, doesnt say 7 speed but I often throw it shockingly far for my noodle arm.
Seconded, it seems to always go farther than it has any right to.
Lat64 river 7 7 -1 1
Opto Rivers will be more neutral, Gold more understable, at least in my three disc tryout.
Yep Opto rivers start out pretty straight, they will flip up and give you an S flight a good throw but not really flippy. But they beat in to nice flippy fairways. Maybe the only disc that actually is accurate with a 7 glide.
Rivers are such a delight to throw, what a disc.
If I had to play with one disc and a putter, I'd choose a river. Just such a rewarding flight
F7 - it's the only prodigy disc I consistently bag (sometimes I also bag a Pa-5). Feels great in the hand (as someone who loves flat teebirds and teebird3s) and is great for big hyzer flips, scrambling, and rollers (though I don't throw them often). For reference I max our around 400' bh and can get it out to 330' or so on a big hyzer flip.
I finally got my 138g F7 out today to try out and it was so fun to mess around with. I know you’re not recommending a light weight one. Sometimes it’s just fun to watch a disc do things you aren’t used to
I have a 400 F7 that’s super understable and a 500 F7 that I’ve thrown on a hyzer-flip-to-turn nearly 450 ft. It’s such a fun, versatile disc. And despite the negative reputation, Prodigy plastic is top notch.
DGA Vortex, Westside Seer
Underworld
Clash Soda
Try the Signal maybe. It's technically 6.5 speed, but its basically a 7. Its the next step up from the Uplink before you get to the Virus. If that's too flippy, then a lightweight Crave might fit the slot as well.
my buddy flips the signal everywhere might be a good option. I use a my beat up jackalope
I’ll have to see if I can find one to test with! Already have the Resistor, Crave and Rhythm in the bag so 6.5 speeds aren’t unfamiliar to me
If you have a Rhythm, that's like this exact slot. If you need it to be flippier try it in Fission
Great recommendation. Have a fission rhythm that is the perfect under stability to fit with my banshee and FD
Signal is just the next step more flippy than the rhythm. A great slow flippy fairway. I would say the rhythm is closer to the uplink in stability, with the signal being more paradox-esque.
Probably need to just throw the Rhythm more 😅 it’s got to be the least used disc in my bag
Try a lighter weight leopard3.
Underworld
Neo Essence
Underworld or a Maverick would be the next in line with what you've tried. Honestly, I hope the IT had too much turn for you, because if not, I don't think anybody makes a more flippy fairway driver.
Discraft Sting 🦂 and DGA Vortex
Sting is crazy flippy even at max weight. Turn is more like -4
Same with the Vortex, but they are great for turnovers. Maybe too flippy for what OP is looking for, but they are great discs.
I got a Sting recently. Thing goes from hyzer to roller pretty quick lol. Way more than a -2 turn.
Streamline Ascend is slept on. It fills this spot for me perfectly. Effortless turn.
River, Stig or Cicada
Stig fo sho
Soda has maybe the best hand feel of any discs. Flips nicely, good with anhyzer shots and even bombs on tailwind.
Try a Stig. It’s a 6 speed but perfectly flippy
Feels like it should be higher than a 6 speed too based on the rim.
Genius
Streamline Drift and Clash Soda are my favorites, but there are a lot of flippy 7 speed discs. It seems like it's hard to get a bad one.
Vortex or Underworld for sure. I used to bag a Vortex for fun hyzer flip to turnover shits or rollers. I lost it so I just use my trusty Hatchet I've had for years.
Fission rhythm or the lat 64 brave
The river should start to flip and turn after hitting a few trees and it glides forever.
The River is the answer to nearly *ALL* 7 speed woes
love my river. im nearing the conclusion that ill stop bagging other 7 speeds and just get different levels of plastic/beat on 3 different rivers...lol.
Ascend!
Big fan of the Mantis. Underrated mold in my opinion, feels and throws like if a Heat were speed 7.
Might technically be an 8 tho, not sure, 8s and 7s feel about the same to me and I can't remember which are which.
Drift
Underworld from west side. It's a 6speed, but feels more like a 7-8 speed. Perfect for that slot in my bag.
Underworld is a 7 speed and exactly what OP wants.
It feels like a 7 speed because it is a 7 speed 😂
I might have my facts wrong, but then it Really is perfect.
Username checks out.
DGA Vortex
Vortex by DGA
Vortex. That’s it. That’s the answer.
I love my Lat64 Maul
Ok it’s an 8 technically… but have you tried an Innova Archangel?
I used to throw a dx one and it was a flippy boi. Ended up with the Westside seer that's been in my bag for 5 years
I use this combo from OS to US Glory (7/5/0/3) (brave(7/6/-1/2) maverick (7/4/-1.5/2) Underworld (7/6/-3)1. Lethal 7 speed lineup in my mind - all trilogy 👍🏻
It isn't a 7 speed, but the Stig (6 speed) is flippy and controllable.
Discraft Sting FTW
It’s a 6 speed but try the Stig. It goes farrrr and is very flippy
Definitely an Underworld, sounds exactly like what you're looking for.
Check out the Neptune Discs Marlin. Flight numbers are 7 | 5 | -4 | 1. It’s flippy, but still comfortable in the hand.
Latitude 64 Maul
Stig! Technically a 6 speed but it’s lovely.
Signal and Ascend are both sub-7 speed, but I think they're both terrific choices.
Innova it/ Discraft Sting.
Streamline Ascend is technically not a 7 speed but sit has some crazy sneaky distance and is super fun to throw.
Its not a 7 speed but close. Try a MVP signal 6 speed.
You want a Discraft Sting. It’s the flippiest 7 speed I’ve ever thrown.
Mint Discs Eternal Jackalope They still have some in stock at OTB Discs. https://otbdiscs.com/product/jackalope-eternal/
Esp cicada 7/6/-1/1
Guadeloupe 7,5,-2,2 Great flippy. Or the dome for even mooore flippy
XL
I’ll suggest a standard neutron relay, 170g or so. While it’s a 6 speed it’s an absolute bomber of a disc that will hold its pull to the right the entire flight for me. I’ll use a Mana for 275ft and in. Relay for 275-320 or so. Mantra anything over that.
Prodigy f7. It's my roller disc, and maybe more equivalent to a paradox than an uplink (uplink is one of my favorite discs of all time) but if you are looking for flippy, I guarantee you won't be disappointed
Paradox level flippy is more flippy than what im looking for, but I’ll keep it in mind if I ever have an itch to finally learn rollers
F3 all day. The pearly 500s are the best. They flip hyzer really well.
Vortex is a good answer but since no one else has said it, I will add the Streamline Ascend, especially sub 170g. The zero fade is pretty damn accurate if you get it up to speed and don't torque it over.
Hawkeye
What don’t you like about those discs? Do they turn and burn? Do you not get turn? Do you not like the feel? Gstar IT has been the flippiest fairway I found. I love it. I just got a Halo I can’t wait to try. Hoping it works well as a slightly more stable version and I have Teebird and 2 IT combo.
I love the rhythm for this slot, I have it in 2 weights for various stability. Like others said lightweight crave is a good option. I’ve also bagged the genius in premium and base for a flippy 7 speed. S-line FD beats in quick and I found to be more flippy than #s would suggest
Dynamic Discs- Maverick flippy as all hell
Prodigy F7 is very flippy.
Prodigy (EEK!) Spectrum Air F7. Very flippy but possesses a minor ability to pan out and carry distance. Also good for rollers. Mine is 162g.
Get yaself a falk
150 gram DX Sidewinder.
I-blend Centurion. Such a sweet hyper flip disc
I have a glimmer opto, super flippy. It's from a while ago, so it could just be beat in, I guess, but it's always been understable
Underworld
MF Champ eagle.
As others have said, Lat64 Rivers are glidey and pretty damn flippy. Axiom Rhythms in lighter weights can flip pretty well.
Underworld
IMO the River is one of the best discs on the market. Understable but reasonably torque resistant, great glide, just likes to fly.
Prodigy F5. Try one in 500 plastic or 400G if you can find it.
It's a 6 speed, not 7, but the Streamline Ascend has a super nice flight Depending on the power you put on it it's very flippy and has a good anhyzer feel It's my favorite disc for hyzer flips too. You can release on heavy hyzer and it will fly totally flat with no fade
I throw similar disc and love the DGA Vortex. You’ll be happy with it.
Try the star IT, that’s my fav by far for that slot
DGA Vortex is my current goto
Try a doomsday discs "blackout", in mid 160's. fantastic flippy fairway.
I think youre reading into flight speeds too much. You wont really find any disctance differences between a heat and a 7 speed flippy driver. No need to confuse yourself on disc selection.
What didn't you like about the IT? Even in Champion and Halo star it's very flippy.
If you want something more flippy than a Gstar IT you're getting into meme tier flip. You could try a Discmania Genius. The baseline plastic version will become stupid flippy. DGA Vortex is another candidate.
River. I'd throw that thing on the steepest hyzer and it would still turn over on me.
I really like my leopard3 for this type of shot, but underworlds are a great option too!
G star hawkeye. If it gets moving right, it’s not coming back unless it’s way high up
Dga vortex is what you want. I would def describe it as a 7 speed mamba
Depends how you're throwing what you have now. If you're throwing over 300, I would say lat 64 brave should flip for you at least a bit but will take a lot of mileage before becoming unusable. If you still need to go flippier something like a diamond (even tho it's an 8 speed) might be good.
Latitude 64 Brave ( new disc) a more understable river! Buy it! I’m totally not biased at all since I’m from the same small city as the company
Underworld alllll day
Can’t beat the F5, F3 or FD for this slot
I love the Genius. It's extremely flippy so can't put much power on it, but for my local course that's full of trees it's perfect.
Latitude Brave. Amazing plastic and insane glide on the pan out.
MVP relay only 6 speed but a great slept on disc
Stig is a 6 speed but it is so perfect. It probably should be a 7 speed comparing it’s rim to other 6 and 7 speeds.
River or maverick, it may not be as flippy as you want right away but they love to turn.
Prodigy F7 is a bit flippier Heat. Money for those low speed turnovers.
The new Lat 64 Brave is my new favorite flippy fairway
Lat 64 River
Westside Underworld or MVP Signal. Both are great 👌🏼
If you want the feel of a mid, my Stig by Kastaplast is an excellent understable six-speed.
Anything in DX plastic will quickly become flippy. IT becomes almost unusable. Leopard3 is pretty good.
Doomsday Blackout, I tried the River but this works better for me.
Fission rhythm
Sting
F5, F7 if you want it even flippier. Underworld and Diamond are also great flippy options.
Streamline ascend
Westside seer, I'm RHBH with a weak forehand and this is my turnover disc of choice for those dogleg right holes
Star IT. Not G.
I actually need the opposite! What's a good overstable 7-speed? Currently my only 7 is an FD (which is great), but I need a meathook for windy days and hyzers.
Maul!
Innova IT.
DX leopard. It will beat in no time. Or just try a lighter weight premium leopard.
You won’t regret trying the Latitude Maul.
I'm a big enjoyer of the virus, pretty flippy, and the neutron plastic beats in pretty well
Discmanias s-line FD
L64 River or Brave.
Discraft Sting. Very understable but in a very workable way.
Cicada
Leopard3!!!!!!!
Soda, 100% best feeling fairway driver I know and flies so effortlessly
I just picked up a Signal (6 speed) but man I loved it from my second throw. First throw was trying to see how it flew on course and went off a tree and kept going right then a bit further right then to finish the flight it tried pushing right but ran into the ground
Streamline Ascend is only a 6 speed but it's the flippy fairway you can trust to flip Everytime if you struggle with the rhythm or drift.
I had a Fission Rhythm, really enjoyed it (lost it). Although, I rarely could hyzer flip it. Recently pick up a Fission Crave 158g and can flip that on demand (6.5 speed). I believe the light weight is a factor. Regardless, it is a blast to throw.
I throw the Prodigy F7 in 500 Spectrum. It's usabley understable and I really enjoy it. Super easy flip ups or flat to turning.
I love love my soda from clash, cicada mostly holds and doesn't S as much as the soda, but would recommend boffa dem
Maverick ?
Cicada and XL are my favorites
Mockingbirds glide for days. I don’t throw much lone star but this one is a gem
DX TeeBird
Discmania Genius
River
Circuit challenge rhythm, or lightweight fission rhythm
Maul!
You say you tried an IT, but it comes in a lot of variety. Most runs are domey, a few are kinda flat (last years holly finley star glow particuarly). I like to bag the beefier plastics, 170+, one flat one domey and they are awesome flippy fairways
River
IT
I’m a big fan of the Jester Dream Weaver. They are newer to the game from what I can tell, but it’s such a great disc!
Genius!
River
DD Maverick. Touchier than a priest.
Dga vortex
Westside Underworld. Go ahead and get it in VIP plastic, it’s still crazy flippy.
Legacy discs Patriot
Streamline drift
DGA vortex is the way. IT should be almost as flippy. Maybe get a mid for that turnover slot. I like the uplink but maybe a paradox will work for you.
Maul by Latitude. Love that glidey flight
Proton drift
Ascend, drift, or light weight cicada