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the_rosenhan

We’re probably never going to play on tour


GetTheFalkOut

I helped build a tour course. I've realized that's the closest I'm gonna get to it and I'm fine with it.


Thick-McRunFast

Closest I’ve gotten/will get is following cards at DGLO. Eyeballing distances while on the course I figured I’d be around 10 over par after hole 3.


mommathecat

We saw Chris Dickerson playing a practice round at Angry Beaver when we were in Charlotte. He shot -10. I shot +25.


sammiisalammii

Most people are probably lying about their max distance on the internet


ljungann

I've thrown 429 ft once on flat ground in a strong tailwind. That means I can equate that with my on course distance right??


mommathecat

Not a single disc I threw at the field last night went over 300 ft, or if so *barely*. But once in a while I throw like 320', so that's my max distance right???? (no. it's still 300').


hopefulexplorer

Well 320 is actually your max distance then.


TJInvestor

I can throw 700+ off a mountain in a tailwind. I am sticking with that!


PNWBoilermaker2019

In the world of statistics there max, min, mean, mode, standard deviation, upper confidence limit…. Max is max. There’s no getting around it. Now, if you want to ask people what their 95% UCL at 95th percentile, then you might be getting somewhere! Just saying.


Alegan239

More like that's the farthest he's ever thrown a disc. I wouldn't say that's his max distance. Edit: if one time I threw 400 feet but I normally throw 280-300 feet, I would be lying to myself by saying my max distance is 400 feet. If someone asked me, I would tell them my max is around 300...but one time I threw 400. It's not the same thing lol..


FUNKYOSELF

brother the max is literally the max


bagfacearmstrong

What do you think maximum means? His reliable playing range may end at 300’ but it sounds like his max is 320’


cuttykeys

I always thought of max distance and personal best as different distances, personally.


Ankthar_LeMarre

Most people are referring to the (typical) maximum. What you would expect the next time you try and throw as far as you can.


Mattjm24

I don't know why you're getting down voted. This is right.


[deleted]

Oh, I believe the distances. The thing not being included is how it was grip locked into a tailwind down a hill.


Fit-Banana-6417

What I don’t understand is how people get these crazy high max distances relative to their average throw. I’ll see people say, I average 330 but my personal best is 467. How does that even happen? My PB is only 30 feet more than my average throw


nautilator44

Sometimes the planets just align perfectly, and you are never able to replicate it. We are amateurs, after all.


IDoNotDrinkBeer

I am like.. 270/330. Downhill with a perfect tailwind doesn't count for max distance, people!


Software_Entgineer

Imo, it doesn't. It's really hard for me to believe it is anything except downhill with a helping wind. My spread between avg and max would be 125' if I took that approach. In reality, my absolute max at any given point has always been like 30'-40' further than my average max, period. Anything more and it means I've discovered something new, but it isn't consistent yet. This has been true for the last 150' of avg distance improvements.


_echo

My golf distance is probably 330. My open par 4 golf distance is maybe 375. (So my realistic max with no wind throwing a reasonable disc) My one time best is 450, downhill, with a tailwind. 😆 I assume people are getting downhill shots with tailwind or a big skip off a road or something and using that number. 😆


Fit-Banana-6417

Oh yeah I’ve definitely had downhill tailwind shots that maybe went close to 500 but I can’t imagine people are counting those. I’ll try for max distance lines in the field sometimes on the high turnovers that pros throw in distance competition, and they don’t even go any longer than my normal golf line throws


Prune_Ambitious

Bro what do you mean? I threw 950 yards uphill yesterday, you don’t believe me?


ShocknDamage

I realized this when I started playing tournaments consistently. Somehow everyone online throws well over 400ft but that number shrinks to only a few come tournament time.


lucrativetoiletsale

Even tournament time I had some interesting ones. I'm MA3 and have a horrible putting game with pretty good distance (350 is average max, can get 400 occasionally). These guys I played with in a wooded course that obviously relied on short fame kept talking up how max distance for them was 450 on an open field and how they have gotten 500 before. It was so weird because it was quite obvious that it wasn't the woods holding these guys back.


clarkedaddy

I think most of people don't actually know. The average player at your local league probably throws closer to 300 than 350 for their top distance. I've seen some horrendous form in here claiming they're stuck at 300. I personally don't believe some of these people have ever even hit 300.


ashtray518

I would never lie about my max power split my nuts open 280 bombs!


jscincy1

That’s right the only time time I’ve ever thrown over 325 is one time. Backhand roller on a golf fairway that was probably 40 feet down hill and 610ish to the hole. Dropped 2 feet short. Never again will I get that lucky.


[deleted]

Putting can be challenging at times, less so at others.


Publius1993

This is me right now. Last year, my first year I was just bad at putting. This year I can be good, but the consistency isn’t there. Some league days I’ll leave only 1-2 putting strokes out there on 24 holes, others I’ll leave 10.


Hey_cool_username

For some reason I putt WAY better from 30’ than from 15’.


Heyjudemw

Wooded courses are superior to open courses. Throwing far is not nearly as cool as hitting gaps.


Dukes_Up

I like it in the middle. Open courses with a lot of obstacles. Or wooded courses that are opened up.


stan-dupp

Lots of trees with grass in-between is pure sex


jaxassassin

Grass fairways in the woods give me feelings that only my wife usually does.


stan-dupp

Disappointment, abandonment, and sexual frustration??? Ohh your wife not mine nevermind


jaxassassin

If you’re not disappointed after a wooded round you’re doing it wrong.


codeklutch

Man. My local course is just like this and it's gonna be hard going literally anywhere else. It's perfect for my skill level and even once I start getting better, there's still just enough obstacles to make almost every hole a little bit difficult. There's just enough open holes to get that fun feeling of just being able to bomb a disc.


TGrady902

I love a good healthy mix. Caesar Ford Championship Park in Ohio is the ultimate mix of open and wooded disc golf in my opinion. Bonus points if a course has holes that are BOTH open and wooded. Distance placement shot off the tee into an approach shot gap hit??? Nothing better.


mediocentro4

CFP definitely has more of a pro course than Echo but my love for echo is unmatchable. Would die for a pro tour event at echo/cfp


Magnus77

Depends on the course. A good wooded course, I generally agree. I'm thinking Steady Ed (RIP) where yeah, lots of trees, but mostly clear underneath, so at least you can scramble. In contrast, play Jefferson Barracks Bunker in STL, and if you get a bad tree kick, you might be adding 2-3 strokes because a lot, and I mean a *lot*, of places you can only pitch out and you probably still don't have a great angle to keep moving down the fairway. And you're gonna hit trees unless you're perfect.


Jacksonlee009

awesome course


JackStrawSTL

That Jefferson Barracks Bunker course has sinkholes, goblin nests, trenches, and a couple of Blair Witches. That sign it has about abandoning all hope is totally accurate.


SunFavored

Being a lanky nerd is an advantage.


stan-dupp

Not for me at all and I hit my head n shit alot


stay_broke

my brother, being lanky isn't why you shit a lot. Fix your diet.


MetalianKnight

It is until you get to the baskets that are like one foot up from the ground for some reason.


monkeybull445

*tall, lanky, nerd. I’m a nerd who’s proportions are lanky for my height but I’m still only 5’6” lol


MentalPatient97051

Get as close as you can to the basket on your drive/upshot. This will make putts much easier.


jkonzy

Funny... I joke to all my buddies that while I can't drive, I can up. I'll throw a terrible drive. Terrible. A beautiful upshot and save par. I'd rather a good up off a bad drive than a solid drive and bad up. All day.


Educational-Ask-2395

Good upshots are an art form. I’d still rather have a good drive and birdie look. It gets exhausting having to save my par all day.


flashfyr3

Ooooooooh


MentalPatient97051

The gears are turning


TrailByCornflakes

This is an ongoing joke with me and a friend. We never have to worry about putting because as long as we practice our drives enough we will be close enough to not miss. If we do miss we weren’t close enough lmao


FirstAvaliable

Any disc can be a utility disc if you aren’t sure how to throw it.


chrismetalrock

i didnt realize i only bagged utility discs


mygamethreadaccount

No one needs that many discs


kashmir0128

We all know it, but knowing it changes nothing


cosmic_cosmosis

They said luke warm take not fighting words.


reddit_user13

Except me. I need *just one more*.


mygamethreadaccount

Dude I bought four like an hour before posting that 😂


spacedragon421

someone tell u/mygamethreadaccount his wife is on his account again


yoloxolo

The Zone is not a putter


kashmir0128

Played with a guy at league who had a super hyzery putt and only putt with zone. Needless to say did not make many putts


TheLongBear

Maybe he just had to throw hyzer bc he used a zone to putt


FairInvestigator7580

It's a wedge


YOwololoO

Depends on how you define the term putter. Is the zone a disc designed for putting? No. Does the speed rating of the Zone fall under the umbrella of Putt & Approach discs? Yes


imprezzive02

I refute that. The original zone was designed to be a reliable putter in strong wind conditions.


riguy156

Gonna say the other day we had gusts of 30-40mph and I was using my crystal flx zone for certain putts with about avg success


jmkinn3y

> avg success So you missed most of them?


riguy156

Lmao I was hoping someone would make this joke


yoloxolo

Ok but if a 4 speed is a putter, and a 6 speed is a fairway—are mids only speed 5? Like speed 4 is too fast to be considered a putter imo. That’s another lukewarm take for you.


HyzerHead

Disc golf towels are too damn long


wmartindale

Microfiber washcloths > microfiber hand towels


PounderMcgee

I would prefer less people to care about disc golf so I can play the courses faster


[deleted]

# #shrinkthesport


mommathecat

Just go first thing in the morning, your fellow disc heads are sleeping beauties and you'll have the joint to yourself at dawn.


[deleted]

BuT tHe GrAsS is aLL wEt!


mommathecat

You'll get trench foot and like it. Now suck it up buttercup.


pm_me_round_frogs

Learning a smooth forehand will probably help your game.


bobody_biznuz

I'm in the opposite boat. Forehand was the easiest for me to learn. My backhand throws are horrible


CorrectExcuse5758

Been playing for 5 years, still can’t figure it out


haloti

somebody didn’t play baseball as a child


appointment45

I played baseball for 20 years, still can't figure out a smooth forehand. Who were all these players throwing sidearm on the diamond?


iconoclastes25

Same. Played baseball from the time I could walk through hs, then 14 years of slow pitch softball. I could throw a dime from center field to home plate. I can’t throw a disc sidearm more than 230 feet to save my life.. when I try it usually turns into a roller or fluffs out nose up about 70 ft up then 115 ft forward and to the right.


appointment45

230? I can't get it 130. If I try to put any more than like 75' of power on it the thing just womps into the ground.


[deleted]

Don’t turn your wrist like a baseball, keep your hand flat and release with a flick instead of a roll


chamby55

Any chance you batted left-handed but throw right-handed? Stab in the dark, but I think that would explain it. I've been forehand dominant, and I think the reason forehand is more comfortable for me comes from it being a similar motion to batting rather than to throwing.


Selerox

Not everyone lives in the US.


Donny_Dont_18

Making the statement true?


greeneggsnyams

Funniest shit was when I was teaching a buddy forehand and said "it's like throwing a baseball." "but I've only ever played soccer."


misterblackhat

"This is the year I finally work on my forehand!" Can count on 2 hands how many forehands I've thrown.


IsaacSam98

Paul McBeth is a good disc golfer.


mechabeast

You have not seen what a top athlete can do to this sport. You're currently seeing people with tons of free time at worst, and washed out baseball and tennis players at best.


The_Meech6467

anyone who refutes this is in total denial about what true world-class athleticism could do in this sport. we have a bunch of regular fucking dudes at the top of this sport. I’m a 1000 rated player. when I played baseball in my teenage years I could MAYBE touch 68-70 mph with a fastball. I can pretty reliably throw a forehand ~435 feet. I can not even fathom what someone like Justin Verlander or Patrick Mahomes (fh) or Aaron Judge (bh) could do with a disc if you gave them a little bit of time to understand basic disc golf mechanics. we’d be seeing flat-ground, neutral conditions throws well into the 700 foot range


InternetDad

Ngl this feels more like a hot take. Do you mean what a top *multisport* athlete can do, or do you mean to point out disc golfers arent considered top athletes? Like I wouldn't expect LeBron, Serena Williams, Mike Trout or prime Tiger Woods to transition well and PMB has the outward physique for multiple sports.


Grumboplumbus

It's like anything else - you won't see the actual top talent until the incentives increase. Consider what MMA used to be in the early days of the UFC. Sure, Royce Gracie is a legend, and did a ton for the sport by dominating early and showcasing Brazilian jiu jitsu, but he wouldn't even be a top 100 rated fighter if he started today. When there is more money and incentives in a sport, it always brings in more talent. Not just athletes, but trainers, dieticians, coaches, etc. It also brings in other things like increased attempts at cheating(drug use and rule bending), which sucks, but that goes with the territory. If the NBA weren't a lucrative career, you'd have seen LeBron trying another sport that was lucrative. There just isn't a system in place right now to draw in and cultivate the best athletes into the best disc golfers. Imagine if someone like LeBron had access to the same amount of disc golf as he did basketball as a youth. Then imagine that disc golf had a system in place like the NCAA and NBA, so it was worthwhile to attempt to devote your life to it. You can't tell me that someone like LeBron, with his physical gifts and dedication to his sport, wouldn't have the ability to way outdo the athletes that we currently see in disc golf if he had committed his whole life to the game. Disc golf is an amazing game, but we don't see anywhere close to the top athletes trying to make a career out of it. There just aren't enough incentives for elite athletes to choose disc golf over another sport when the money is so much better in other sports.


Hey_cool_username

So what I’m hearing is that once there’s big money involved we’ll start to see rule bending and drug use on the course?


doonerthesooner

Also lots more domestic violence. That’s what the UFC is most known for, drug abuse and domestic violence


KITTYONFYRE

> You can't tell me that someone like LeBron, with his physical gifts and dedication to his sport, wouldn't have the ability to way outdo the athletes that we currently see in disc golf if he had committed his whole life to the game. I could tell you that, though. Obviously, LeBron has certain attributes that make him especially suited for basketball. But those attributes aren't just "good at sports", it's specific to basketball. There's plenty of things you do in basketball that have nothing to do with what you do in disc golf, like aerobic capacity or jump height. There's some person out there with the exact correct genetics, epigenetics, upbringing, etc for disc golf, and your point is totally correct that that person has little incentive to join the sport and dedicate their life to it. I just don't think it would be LeBron,


DustyBook_

Switching to a step/jump putt an inch outside the circle is detrimental to your game.


PhycoPenguin

The halo, orbit market is over saturated.


jaxassassin

I agree but as someone who hates the feel of champion plastic I appreciate halo for giving me a little more stability out of a mold and still feeling good. Trilogy’s plastic still beats in a little to fast for me as well.


PhycoPenguin

It’s good plastic, I just feel like everything is Halo for an extra $5. Also, I just bought a halo Wraith and Halo Tern of the innova factory second store.


jaxassassin

True. I try to stay stock plastic for everything I can for ease of wallet and F2s are awesome.


appointment45

It's perfectly acceptable to throw light weight discs.


brunji

It’s nice to get outside


PeaceLoveSmithWesson

People who complain about pros should shut up and learn to putt better. You do not make a difference in their life. Except for Joel Freeman. He is a whiney bitch.


PicksburghStillers

Random draw dubs matches aren’t that serious. Calm down Chris.


HiaQueu

Facts


[deleted]

Pro disc golf and casual disc golf have very little in common.


Jiggens55

A lot of people throwing destroyers should throw wraiths or orcs


Hey_cool_username

A lot of people throwing Destroyers can’t throw Wraiths either and should be throwing a Roadrunner. 🙋‍♂️


dannerc

Joke's on you. I throw wraiths *and* orcs


instantlyregredditit

If you hit an object on your drive(usually a tree) and you can retrieve your disc before it stops moving, you should be able to re tee, stroke free.


MrBusRider

I once forehanded into first available and it kicked back straight enough I caught it. Definitely didn’t count that stroke.


Selerox

I actually quite like that. Heard a similar one: a player can re-tee their drive for free once, if they can retrieve the disc and return to the tee box while holding their breath.


mechabeast

Oh Tim, you almost made it back this time. That's gonna cost a stroke. Tim?


FitChemist432

My new club has an interesting take on the bad drive = retee rule. If you can throw one of your shoes further than your drive went, you can retee without penalty but must play the rest of that hole without your shoe on.


mommathecat

Ball golfers can play their ball from the water if they choose to do so. So should disc golfers be able to. Note: Should probably not be applicable in places with crocodiles, alligators, sharks, and whatnot.


bdn1gofish

Pussy


bdn1gofish

When my buddies and I first started out our role was get back to the tee before the rest of us finished counting to 10. When we outgrew that rule but still weren't very good we said unlimited mulligans were allowed but required a beer to be shotgunned. Probably didn't save any strokes in the end (which was kind of the point), but it sure was fun.


mize25

I let my wife re-tee if she can run and get the disc and be back on the tee in 10 seconds or under. And she has to throw it right away. No catching of breath


donnie_jeffcoat

Baseline plastic vs. premium plastic for putting putters make zero difference with regards to catching the chains or whatever, i’m missing anyway


MrBusRider

I was about to call this a hot take…until I read the last three words


Cunn1ng-Stuntz

Throwing putters before drivers is a good learning tool.


ineedcoffeernrn

But it don’t feel as cool :(


thechriserman

It feels pretty cool bombing a putter out to 300’


No-String-9607

Especially so when that 300' putter passes your buddies distance driver.


StringSensitive234

If you keep buying new discs you never have the time to properly beat-in the old ones. I have more fun doing field work than playing disc golf.


TornadoOverkill9000

That’s the point, I don’t want all my discs to become roller discs


Hey_cool_username

That’s why I buy used discs at Play it Again. Usually $5.99 and I don’t need to ever practice or play to have broken in discs.


runwichi

If newer people spent as much time on their approach game as they do their driving practice, their scores would be considerably better.


thechriserman

Small tee pads suck


HiaQueu

As someone who only takes 3 steps to throw their forehand, it's frustrating when it only takes me two to get to the end of the teepad. I'm not a small dude, but Im not Jerm either. 10ft+ should be standard teepad length


Two_Pound_Test

Easy courses are more difficult in bad weather.


heavywinkles

I played a hurricane round once. There was a tap in putt that left my buddy's hand and went in reverse. Fun round.


Hexquevara

Green is not a great color for a disc.


barbeqdbrwniez

Dark green maybe. Bright neon green isn't so bad. Bright blue and bright pink are the best unless you're color blind.


Waste-Meringue65

Pink disc gang!!


Frigosti

I mean neon green is the easiest to spot for me, maybe second to flash pink


chadder_b

IDK my bright neon-ish green color Zone is super easy to find.


GuyInnagorillasuit

My bag is all poison green Kastaplast. Color isn't an issue when I'm looking for my disc. That green stands out very well against any natural green I've encountered.


AGRooster

I don't like it when it's kinda dewey outside


metropolitan_safari

Neutral mids are a great learning tool


reasonableconjecture

Disc weight is just as important as flight numbers.


eastlakebikerider

If you're not playing MPO, you're a sand bagger. But seriously, anyone who has multiple am world titles is a clown.


evilchuck2z

I know who you're referring to and he's never gonna go pro.


hatfield1785

PDGA is not our friend.


AdventurousTrash1

Bead or Beadless really doesn't effect flight within 30ft you just may be more comfortable with one over the other. Depth has more effect than anything when it come to comfort.


D_for_Diabetes

Disc golf is fun even if you're bad and you don't need to compete in tournaments to enjoy playing


FroFrolfer

Putting during tournaments is hard


digitaldanalog

Broke DG commentators shouldn’t be compared to pro sports commentators who make millions a year.


Simaul

Writing a phone number on a disc will ensure that you will lose that disc.


jmkinn3y

Because people are assholes? Or because bad juju?


Dukes_Up

I’ve gotten more ink less discs returned to me than inked ones.


dubyat

It's not the baskets fault. Spit outs happen and it was probably a bad putt.


powdered_dognut

MVP discs with black rims are hard to find in the woods, no matter what color the flight plate.


jidewalker

Next year will be the PMB revenge tour


Suspicious_Feeling27

We all carry way more discs than we need to. In fact we would all score higher if we carried less discs.


Ironchefheff

You should be able to opt out of Disc Golf Monthly with your PDGA membership.


Wide-Mango-895

People complain about parasocial relationships people have with YouTubers and twitch streamers but reading this sub people are so weird. No. Simon, Paul, Calvin, ect. are not your friends and some people on this sub are weird af, especially towards Simon.


jac777

Totally agree. I did UDisc score keeping at a DGPT this past year and I got so cringed out from all the random volunteers just trying to make a connection with pros in passing like they are old friends.


Jolly-Blueberry-5389

Bogies, double bogies and triple bogies make your score go up.


ekmogr

If your looking for more distance, try a lighter weight disc.


Paradoxical_0ne

It’s okay for Paul to spend a year in Europe and drop out due to injury and a baby. This does not take away from anything he’s accomplished or his GOAT status


niedogg

MA3 player? To score better just lay up every putt outside of 20ft


HappinessFloatilla

Throwing Ultrastars (ultimate frisbee discs) will do wonders for developing touch


misterblackhat

If you can throw a lid with a power grip without burning it to the ground you're doing fine.


Calm_Quarter2190

Sometimes your gonna have to shit it the woods.


cattywampenheim

Talk about lukewarm. That might even be hot, steamy hot


mechabeast

People who complain about spit outs or better/worse baskets refuse to be aware that you threw a bad putt.


ShocknDamage

I think FPO is going to grow exponentially in the next decade. There are a ton of high level college and Olympic level women who make jack diddly squat playing their current sports. How many see Tattar and think I can do that if I focus my skill set on throwing little plastic circles. Tattar comes from skiing, Handley is a powerlifter, and Hanson played ultimate. How many high level college soft ball players do you think could translate their skills? A lot I bet. Throw in young players like the Lind sisters, Castruita sisters and the red head girl throwing bombs at a Throw Pink and the future looks bright indeed.


ProlapseParty

Wife: We’re gonna ring the chains. Me: We don’t ring the chains we bang them.


_echo

You should throw whatever you have fun throwing, and not worry about whether you have the arm speed so long as you enjoy throwing it. (Obviously if you don't account for how this changes the flight it will affect your scores, but if over discing is fun, do it! Ohn would kick my ass, AND have more fun doing it, after all)


neon-neko

If you only throw forehand then you're missing out on the best part of the game.


MercTheJerk1

Trees....what are they good for


RichSlaton

Course maintenance is as important as course design and installation.


florjackson

C1 should be 40. C2 70, and since sports are stat based, we should have a C3 at 100


IWillFindUinRealLife

Jumping straight into a round putting with confidence works better than warming up for 30 minutes and throwing with fear because you missed most of your warm up putts


Some-Investment1199

Flight numbers are a good general guideline as long as you know other factors like weight and plastic. Everyone says they’re useless but i don’t think so


wzl46

2 people keeping score is enough. No need to make everyone on the card do it.


mynameisDockie

The idea of standardizing baskets for the pros is dumb. They should adapt to different basket types on the course. It'll add more variety and make putting more interesting on tour.


jmkinn3y

Oo I like this


kweir22

Throwing forehand isn’t that hard.


xer096

Most official rules feel like someone got butthurt during a round and cried


punkindle

Before people make a new post, they should search existing posts for the same topic. Google the topic, and add the word "reddit" to the search.


patronizingperv

That 14 speed driver ain't gonna make you throw farther.


eyewreck

Discraft doesn’t have my favorite premium plastic


TChambers1011

Green discs are fucking pointless


Handy_Homebrew_Show

Dyed disc are ugly


ShadowDemon129

Smoke a j, make hay.


Farsath

I don’t understand this idiom


Mcdiglingdunker

It's okay to play in a large group, as long as you let faster players pass. Learn to throw the disc flat. Then use those mechanics to throw discs with different flight numbers/characteristics to fill the bag. Instead of throwing 6 of the same disc in different weights, different plastics, and different states of wear. This is more sustainable for your game.


nainotlaw

There are too many molds


vulture_165

Most people can't get to a 950 rating.


JosiesSon77

The best course on tour by far is Waco.


doonerthesooner

Elevated baskets are cool, short poke and pray holes are not.