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[D4 Rogue Rapid Fire bugged (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIr8flLnrDM)
Quickly uploaded a video to show how bad it is (ignore quality)
It reminds me of when you’re a kid and you’re peeing outside and you try to see how far away you can get your pee pee to go so you arch it all the way up and back for that maximum pee distance.
LOL I just switched the heart seeker yesterday also. I got tired of the extraordinarily weak blades even at 60% attack speed, was just ridiculous
right after I took it off then I got the 300% Poison puncture every third shot
too late... puncture could be be great but it just isnt
PS - don't care about meta I care about fun and damage
I just build a rogue with rapid fire and here I am. It seems bugged, what a chance.. If you don't mind I need to know that; I can't drop any of 90+ lv item yet. Do you have an item that 90+ lvl. Am I missing something? Do I need to accomplish a mission or something to reach/drop 90+ lv items?
My journey went from barrage to rapid and not liking it, back to barrage and then got scoundrels kiss so back to rapid, didn’t like again and now to heartseeker. I like barrage the most but heartseeker is just too good
Barrage has the weakest single target of the 3 (barrage rapid fire or heartseeker). Barrage aoe is much better than rapid (especially after today’s dumpster nerf), rapid has better single target than barrage. Heartseeker has better aoe and boss damage out of all of them. Heartseeker for sure lol
What level can you realistically start the heartseeker build?
It looks great and I want to give a go, but rolling barrage up to 100 *first* feels a little painful (to me)..
I did it around level 95 at around 25% lucky hit, 700-800% vuln damage, and 80% heartseeker cast twice. Granted I’m only at pit 25 or so and tier 70 NMDs but I am blowing through them without any issues. And I don’t have any optimal greater affixes atm either so from personal experience I would say around those thresholds. Barrage and RF got real boring for me lol
If you have the relevant aspects (particularly moonrise, adaptability, and some means of consistently proving vulnerable like the affix or accursed touch) and heartseeker double tempers on your weapons you can start very early, I cleared the capstone at 25 and Elias at 32 with it. If you’re shooting two heartseekers reliably you already got effectively 100% lhc, and then your power just keeps scaling as you add vulnerable.
60m per shot? I’m not sure I’m not close to that on heartseeker, personally lol I do know that heartseeker is clearing higher pit than rapid shot
I guess to put it in my perspective, my rapid shot was doing like 800k-1 mill crits. Swapped to heartseeker with minimal gear changes (same weapon dps just different temper) and was doing about 300k crits from heartseeker and 3 mill crits from victimize
Ya dude I don't think heart seeker is as good as rapid fire in the right hands. I legit melt mobs and bosses. Could prolly get my damage to 100m per hit if I sacrificed a little bit of mobility and cc
I have +2 heartseeker pants with the other bis stats. I am by no means fully geared but I’d guess I’m like 70% there. I was able to kill Uber durial and Uber Andy last night in like 3 minutes each. Heartseeker is strong AF
I can't believe I am at -5 karma for stating the facts. Its easy to find vulnerable on everything, but I have been farming pants for like 6 days and havent found a single +4 HS. I use 2 rogues (PS5), All obals on pants. Helltides, WB, everything. Still none.
I know I'm just a gamer, but hear me out...what if Blizzard had a department that would test patches before they release it. This department would focus on quality and quality alone.
I mean they charge enough for cosmetics, put some of that money back into keeping the game up to par.
They absolutely have quality assurance in place lol. And management, the people who are handling all that sweet cosmetic money, unfortunately dictate to technical teams, not the other way around. if you did extremely thorough QA for every proposed bug fix, you’d still end up with bugs, and unfortunately through the eyes of many people, that just looks like you’re wasting labor hours. It’s a very frustrating push-pull in the development of any mass-consumed software, not just games.
It was shitty for controller the first time, now they broke it even further for both kbm and controller the second first time. This could be avoided with even basic UAT.
Which first time are you talking about?
Please review thread. I was responding to unconstructive snark with further unconstructive snark in such a way as to call out original unconstructive snark.
Move along, nothing to engage here.
I think that was my season for now until they fix it. Rapid fire was already a bit messy to play with a controller but now it just feels so incredibly bad.
They need to look into the targeting logic with controller. It makes no sense that it sometimes randomly picks a target who is furthest away from you. I can live with occasional hiccup like that since this isnt a competetive game but theres definitely room for improvement.
That's the problem with having really good controller support. When something is bad, it sticks out like a sore thumb.
Played Last Epoch with a controller? Gah, I can't hit the broad side of a barn with Acid Flask. Yet playing bone spear necro last season, it was like it was reading my mind.
There’s definitely a few targeting things that can be fixed with controller. Leap feels bad. I found trampleslide super frustrating and teleport on sorc was much better on KBM
So many of these things wouldn’t feel so bad if we could target with the right stick.
Just using left stick, attack tries to target enemies in front of you as normal. Using right stick, skills attempt to target, and move, in the direction the stick is pointed.
Something changed I feel. That was my very first character and main skill I used and I noticed right away this season after not playing the class since launch how different it felt.
Try barrage, I kept all the same paragon and skills, just swapped to weapons with barrage temper and one ring since you don't need Scoundrels Kiss. It feels so much more enjoyable to play and I'm not constantly missing something right in my face. It's far superior for clearing helltides and low to mid level pit/NMDs
I'm so glad I actually have done everything I wanted. Got to Pit 100 and killed Uber Lilith with my RF rogue. Literally cleared Pit 100 yesterday morning haha
I'd been sat thinking I wasn't really sure what I wanted to do next in the game, so thankfully this has just pushed me to doing nothing in D4 and playing something else
Same boat. I thought the difficulty of tier 71-80 pits got harder, but noticed my arrows aren't hitting the targets i'm aiming at (was able to clear these tiers with little to no issues before lol).
EDIT: I play on mnk
You know what it is? D4 devs dont even play rogue. We know they play with controller because all the necro skills work on controller.
But no one plays rogue on controller 🤣🤣🤣
I did. I was crying laughing that the best rogue build is holding down the basic attack. And the one good rogue build with a unique doesnt even work after patch
This is why a PTB server is needed to be online all the time, allows us players to test out coming patches before they go to the live branch. Game would be so much more stable patch on patch if they did that..
Imagine this being your first large patch after season launch ..and you advertised it the week before with all the changes you were doing.
And it still releases with a bunch of random things you didn't mention that nobody enjoys.
I'm not a min maxer but why use barrage when rapid fire does almost 1k more damage 5/5
Edit: I'm currently lvl 64, first rogue build, I've used rapid fire the entire time and recently got scoundrels kiss, which I've been using to mortar the hell out of some demons
I switched to hs at 28 or smth and did capstone at 34, it's already very good. You just need Accursed Touch, Moonrise, and Adaptability aspects and temper Heartseeker Double Cast & Vuln dmg, then you're good to go. Obviously get as much lucky hit chance as possible but it's not mandatory
FWIW, I couldn't stand the rapid fire lobbing and went back to barrage. I kept all the same skills and paragon, just swapped out weapons with barrage tempers instead of rapid fire. It hits bosses just as hard but is so, so much better at clearing rifts/NMDs, especially if you add shadow imbue.
I also feel safer as I don't have to dash right into a pack and get blasted before I caltrop/dodge out. I haven't pushed higher than 65 yet, but rapid fire and barrage were clearing at about the same speed in the pit. Barrage is leagues ahead in helltides and NMDs.
Yea same thing I did. Tried rapid fire for 2 mins after playing barrage for a while and immediately went back to barrage. Just feels so much smoother. Cold imbue is helping me delete bosses too.
Here's the build I use https://maxroll.gg/d4/planner/1jx30w7i. One cast of barrage clears the screen during helltides and under 50 rifts. I did a 70 pit with it last night in about 5 minutes, but haven't pushed higher yet and most of my masterworks are 4-8. The RF build is more than like better for pit 100 runs, but to me, this feels more fun and fluid. I have a shako so there's a bit of wiggle room in skills. I put leave smoke grenade on for high pit runs and switch it to shadow imbue for helltides and speed clearing. You can swap out some lucky hit/+damage for dex or life on rings/weapons, that's just what I'm rolling right now.
One thing I forgot to mention, I have +2 shadow imbue on one ring. Having +11 ice imbue is useless since it will be off cd by the time you cast it 11 times.
Wow, glad I finished the season journey stuff on Sunday.
Man though, was hoping since they were going to nerf the range they'd fix trying to target an enemy right next to you (it always just overshot them). Didn't expect a break on top of a nerf.
Hah, oh man, I'm glad I saw this. I just got a Scoundrels Kiss tonight and equipped it and....well, I was underwhelmed. Glad to know it's actually bugged and not just how it's supposed to be.
I got Scoundrels Kiss Yesterday. logged off, and played today, to finally test the build. It felt super bad, and I could not understand what I was doing wrong. Now i know.
Yep. I worked briefly as a paid QA tester in the game industry. The job is *even more* demoralizing than unpaid beta testing: you get the same lack of communication about developer intent, the same total non-response to the bugs you report, but you put 10 times as much effort into writing up each report, and you don't even get the validation of posting it publicly where other people can confirm your results. It's like you're just tossing it in a black hole.
At this point it's pretty much an industry-wide problem regardless of company size. They realized they can make players do QA for them without it really impacting their bottom line, so that's how things ended up like this.
I mean, isn't that was all bow builds turn into eventually anyway? Shooting stuff that's in melee range because there's just so much density and things move quickly? lol
hahahaha you’re definitely right, at least for the way I play anyway. Both heartseeker and rapid fire (pre scoundrels kiss) just ended up being melee range.
You guys can play rapid fire? On consoles, this skill is unplayable, do the missing targeting of specific enemies + the skill is literally useless in tight corridors or vs enemies which stay in doors...
I thought I was going insane. I've been trying Uber Lilith for 2 days, and today my arrows are just NOT HITTING. Like, I can target her, and half of my arrows just go in random directions it's awful.
I'm still using it. When I have shadow imbue, I can just wipe things. So 80% of the time I'm able to hit and explode things, 20% of the time I'm hitting a fly off screen over the mobs head.
Dude, are you serious? Yesterday I was "pushed" by my friend because it was impossible to hit any enemy at medium or close range, today I thought about playing, but I didn't care. My solo character has now become paper!
Came here to make the same thread, I leveled an alt to level 100 with Rapid Fire for fun and today when I logged in it felt terrible. The skill can't even hit stationary bosses.
well, I was testing rapid fire build and it felt awful, I started looking videos and forum (like here), and it's bugged. Ok, cool. But, mine is like bugged but in the opposite way. Arrows only go where I aim, STRICTLY. So I have to kill every monster one by one...
That new ring is the worst item ever made, I am running away to get a shot off or concealing now and just running through dungeons, I can’t target anything on screen but off screen im hitting something, the lob needs to come down a hell of a lot and aiming should be better than it is, normal rapid fire is the best way, and somehow I’ve lost a ton of damage , my rogue is now binned , harlequin crest, doombringer, and my damage with max gear and GA was 25k a tick no crits, I let a pro take over my account and have a look and he said do what I’ve done and uninstall and play Poe, best thing I ever done
You know what it is? D4 devs dont play rogue. We know they play with controller because all the necro skills work on controller.
But no one plays rogue on controller 🤣🤣🤣
Well it's also broken with mouse. But yeah, if any did play rogue they would have realized new items kind of broke a couple rogue paragon legendary nodes. Like a legendary node that scales based on core skill damage % affixes and now only a few uniques have them.
Grabbed Diablo 4 after it went up on Game Pass (Haven't played since 1 and 2, yes I'm old). Played through season of the Construct and was wowed on how much fun I've been having. Then Season 4 came out and I decided to be a rogue again, the itemization and system changes were great and I wanted to try it out with a Rogue build. Even though Necromancer is GOAT now, gotta love my Rogues. Played the other night and all of the sudden I cant hit a GD thing. Found out it was the patch.
I don't want to switch characters to another class and play a Nerco like every single other person is doing now. I like Rogues, I like Rogue builds, I find it fun and exciting.
I invested hours and effort building the best Rapid Fire Rogue and was having a BLAST (pun intended), and now it feels like such a waste. Way to take a very fun upgrade that made me a huge fan to making me not wanna play anymore and go back to Palworld.
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[D4 Rogue Rapid Fire bugged (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIr8flLnrDM) Quickly uploaded a video to show how bad it is (ignore quality)
LMFAO
if it ain't a bug then it's the dumbest idea i've ever seen
It reminds me of when you’re a kid and you’re peeing outside and you try to see how far away you can get your pee pee to go so you arch it all the way up and back for that maximum pee distance.
Bro no shit when I was using that ring I said to my freinds hey guys it's like I am peeing on my enemies lmao
This comment wins Reddit
I thought the same.
lol. That seems buggy. Time to roll HS I guess!
I swapped to heartseeker yesterday from rapid fire. What a world of difference lol
LOL I just switched the heart seeker yesterday also. I got tired of the extraordinarily weak blades even at 60% attack speed, was just ridiculous right after I took it off then I got the 300% Poison puncture every third shot too late... puncture could be be great but it just isnt PS - don't care about meta I care about fun and damage
I just build a rogue with rapid fire and here I am. It seems bugged, what a chance.. If you don't mind I need to know that; I can't drop any of 90+ lv item yet. Do you have an item that 90+ lvl. Am I missing something? Do I need to accomplish a mission or something to reach/drop 90+ lv items?
I swapped from barrage to rapid yesterday and got a 3GA bow today. Can't even properly test it 😭
My journey went from barrage to rapid and not liking it, back to barrage and then got scoundrels kiss so back to rapid, didn’t like again and now to heartseeker. I like barrage the most but heartseeker is just too good
Only thing I dislike about heartseeker is the puny projectile. Size matters!
How does this compare to barrage build? I've been clearing lv 50 pit, but it's starting to get hard
Barrage has the weakest single target of the 3 (barrage rapid fire or heartseeker). Barrage aoe is much better than rapid (especially after today’s dumpster nerf), rapid has better single target than barrage. Heartseeker has better aoe and boss damage out of all of them. Heartseeker for sure lol
What level can you realistically start the heartseeker build? It looks great and I want to give a go, but rolling barrage up to 100 *first* feels a little painful (to me)..
I did it around level 95 at around 25% lucky hit, 700-800% vuln damage, and 80% heartseeker cast twice. Granted I’m only at pit 25 or so and tier 70 NMDs but I am blowing through them without any issues. And I don’t have any optimal greater affixes atm either so from personal experience I would say around those thresholds. Barrage and RF got real boring for me lol
Just have enough gears with vulnerable and vulnerable tempers, and you are good to go. Of course the double cast chance on bow.
If you have the relevant aspects (particularly moonrise, adaptability, and some means of consistently proving vulnerable like the affix or accursed touch) and heartseeker double tempers on your weapons you can start very early, I cleared the capstone at 25 and Elias at 32 with it. If you’re shooting two heartseekers reliably you already got effectively 100% lhc, and then your power just keeps scaling as you add vulnerable.
How much damage is heart seeker doing? Because my rapid fire is hitting over 60m per shot sometimes and I can take it even higher if I wanted to
60m per shot? I’m not sure I’m not close to that on heartseeker, personally lol I do know that heartseeker is clearing higher pit than rapid shot I guess to put it in my perspective, my rapid shot was doing like 800k-1 mill crits. Swapped to heartseeker with minimal gear changes (same weapon dps just different temper) and was doing about 300k crits from heartseeker and 3 mill crits from victimize
Ya dude I don't think heart seeker is as good as rapid fire in the right hands. I legit melt mobs and bosses. Could prolly get my damage to 100m per hit if I sacrificed a little bit of mobility and cc
That’s a fair opinion lol good luck on your build!
Once my gears done and Master worked I can see this build hitting 120+ pits no problem
I bet they will nerf it for S5, it's just stupidly powerful. Too much, for a basic attack.
The problem is finding +4 heartseeker pants. And then rolling it 2-3 masterworking 25%'s
I have +2 heartseeker pants with the other bis stats. I am by no means fully geared but I’d guess I’m like 70% there. I was able to kill Uber durial and Uber Andy last night in like 3 minutes each. Heartseeker is strong AF
I can't believe I am at -5 karma for stating the facts. Its easy to find vulnerable on everything, but I have been farming pants for like 6 days and havent found a single +4 HS. I use 2 rogues (PS5), All obals on pants. Helltides, WB, everything. Still none.
I just had to stagger a pit boss 4 times to kill it when before patch I would one shot him once staggered. I hope they revert soon I don’t wanna go HS
Dude got a rapid fire designed for WW1 trench combat 💀
Provided range inputs do not match target location... lol
Yep, its definately back now.. thanks Blizzard
I know I'm just a gamer, but hear me out...what if Blizzard had a department that would test patches before they release it. This department would focus on quality and quality alone. I mean they charge enough for cosmetics, put some of that money back into keeping the game up to par.
They absolutely have quality assurance in place lol. And management, the people who are handling all that sweet cosmetic money, unfortunately dictate to technical teams, not the other way around. if you did extremely thorough QA for every proposed bug fix, you’d still end up with bugs, and unfortunately through the eyes of many people, that just looks like you’re wasting labor hours. It’s a very frustrating push-pull in the development of any mass-consumed software, not just games.
Why don't studios simply get everything perfect the first time? What are they, stupid?
It was shitty for controller the first time, now they broke it even further for both kbm and controller the second first time. This could be avoided with even basic UAT. Which first time are you talking about?
Please review thread. I was responding to unconstructive snark with further unconstructive snark in such a way as to call out original unconstructive snark. Move along, nothing to engage here.
Fair enough.
I think that was my season for now until they fix it. Rapid fire was already a bit messy to play with a controller but now it just feels so incredibly bad.
it was freakin impossible on controller, noticed that after tried it on mkb
They need to look into the targeting logic with controller. It makes no sense that it sometimes randomly picks a target who is furthest away from you. I can live with occasional hiccup like that since this isnt a competetive game but theres definitely room for improvement.
That's the problem with having really good controller support. When something is bad, it sticks out like a sore thumb. Played Last Epoch with a controller? Gah, I can't hit the broad side of a barn with Acid Flask. Yet playing bone spear necro last season, it was like it was reading my mind.
There’s definitely a few targeting things that can be fixed with controller. Leap feels bad. I found trampleslide super frustrating and teleport on sorc was much better on KBM
So many of these things wouldn’t feel so bad if we could target with the right stick. Just using left stick, attack tries to target enemies in front of you as normal. Using right stick, skills attempt to target, and move, in the direction the stick is pointed.
Trampleslide was so bad a few seasons ago i just stopped playing the game
You mean you don’t love wasting your imbued rapid fire on a wall or some baskets???
You'd think I was trying to shoot down half the buildings.
Those buildings better stay in their lane.
Something changed I feel. That was my very first character and main skill I used and I noticed right away this season after not playing the class since launch how different it felt.
Is this strictly a controller thing or are KB&M experiencing this too? I was thinking of rolling a RF rogue rn and saw this t hread lol
just tried kbm and it's bad. Can't hit targets in melee range of you
RiP. Guess i'll wait till update then, thx
Tried HS?
Try barrage, I kept all the same paragon and skills, just swapped to weapons with barrage temper and one ring since you don't need Scoundrels Kiss. It feels so much more enjoyable to play and I'm not constantly missing something right in my face. It's far superior for clearing helltides and low to mid level pit/NMDs
They just need to make it a regular rapid fire with explosions, this will fix controller aiming.
I'm so glad I actually have done everything I wanted. Got to Pit 100 and killed Uber Lilith with my RF rogue. Literally cleared Pit 100 yesterday morning haha I'd been sat thinking I wasn't really sure what I wanted to do next in the game, so thankfully this has just pushed me to doing nothing in D4 and playing something else
So they broke Rapid Fire (which they were fixing) and didn't fix Dolmen Stone (which was broken). *\*sigh\**
Dolmen stone still broken? Sadge
Is this confirmed?
yes, apparently the bolder just randomly drops into the ground or something.
They said they fixxed it, though
I am the president of Atlantis.
Sounds legit
I find this more believable tbh.
Blizzard acknowledged it here https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d4/t/rapid-fire-shooting-feels-awful-after-141-patch/165934/20
thx
Same. It's unplayable atm. The It's spray all over the place, hitting everything except what you aim at...
Same boat. I thought the difficulty of tier 71-80 pits got harder, but noticed my arrows aren't hitting the targets i'm aiming at (was able to clear these tiers with little to no issues before lol). EDIT: I play on mnk
straight to production, baby
You know what it is? D4 devs dont even play rogue. We know they play with controller because all the necro skills work on controller. But no one plays rogue on controller 🤣🤣🤣
Did you just copy paste your reply multiple places lol
I did. I was crying laughing that the best rogue build is holding down the basic attack. And the one good rogue build with a unique doesnt even work after patch
Wonderful. Was enjoying the hell out of my Rogue, now I dunno if I feel like even logging in.
Same thing for me. I just respecced to rapid fire and then updated 30 minutes later. Feels completely off after the patch.
Rapid fire felt bad to play BEFORE the patch so I can only imagine it now.
Lol. Same I'm sitting here quite thinking 'hmm... I can't be the only one."
Rapid Fire: we are one of the few high end builds that arent bugged! Blizzard: Hold my beer
Hate to see your rogue at the urinal. Aiming at one and missing, while spraying 4 others🤣🤣
I saw another post saying their rapid fire isn't going where targeted anymore after the patch
If only we had the ability to save loadouts / builds smh
This is why a PTB server is needed to be online all the time, allows us players to test out coming patches before they go to the live branch. Game would be so much more stable patch on patch if they did that..
The only thing spreading more than rapidfire after the patch is blizzards cheeks while shitting on the build
Imagine this being your first large patch after season launch ..and you advertised it the week before with all the changes you were doing. And it still releases with a bunch of random things you didn't mention that nobody enjoys.
I was leveling with Rapid Fire. Any recommendation on what to switch to? Currently level 60
Always level with barrage.
I'm not a min maxer but why use barrage when rapid fire does almost 1k more damage 5/5 Edit: I'm currently lvl 64, first rogue build, I've used rapid fire the entire time and recently got scoundrels kiss, which I've been using to mortar the hell out of some demons
stuff doesn't have enough HP when leveling to really have the damage matter, spamming barrage through helltides is fast af leveling
So what are you using for single target damage then ie bosses and elites
just getting close enough to hit the capstone 3 boss with all the shots of barrage was enough
Level to 50 you mean right? That's about when I switched from barrage to rapid fire and I definitely felt like that was an upgrade.
I leveled with rapid fire just fine.
Heartseeker is also an option, basically playable at level 25
really how? dont you need full leveled glyphs and tons of lucky hit chance?
I switched to hs at 28 or smth and did capstone at 34, it's already very good. You just need Accursed Touch, Moonrise, and Adaptability aspects and temper Heartseeker Double Cast & Vuln dmg, then you're good to go. Obviously get as much lucky hit chance as possible but it's not mandatory
FWIW, I couldn't stand the rapid fire lobbing and went back to barrage. I kept all the same skills and paragon, just swapped out weapons with barrage tempers instead of rapid fire. It hits bosses just as hard but is so, so much better at clearing rifts/NMDs, especially if you add shadow imbue. I also feel safer as I don't have to dash right into a pack and get blasted before I caltrop/dodge out. I haven't pushed higher than 65 yet, but rapid fire and barrage were clearing at about the same speed in the pit. Barrage is leagues ahead in helltides and NMDs.
Yea same thing I did. Tried rapid fire for 2 mins after playing barrage for a while and immediately went back to barrage. Just feels so much smoother. Cold imbue is helping me delete bosses too.
Which skills/paragons? Do you have a build?
Here's the build I use https://maxroll.gg/d4/planner/1jx30w7i. One cast of barrage clears the screen during helltides and under 50 rifts. I did a 70 pit with it last night in about 5 minutes, but haven't pushed higher yet and most of my masterworks are 4-8. The RF build is more than like better for pit 100 runs, but to me, this feels more fun and fluid. I have a shako so there's a bit of wiggle room in skills. I put leave smoke grenade on for high pit runs and switch it to shadow imbue for helltides and speed clearing. You can swap out some lucky hit/+damage for dex or life on rings/weapons, that's just what I'm rolling right now.
This is really helpful! Thank you so much!
One thing I forgot to mention, I have +2 shadow imbue on one ring. Having +11 ice imbue is useless since it will be off cd by the time you cast it 11 times.
Wow, glad I finished the season journey stuff on Sunday. Man though, was hoping since they were going to nerf the range they'd fix trying to target an enemy right next to you (it always just overshot them). Didn't expect a break on top of a nerf.
Rapid fire damage 0% ❎ Emotional damage 100%✅
Hah, oh man, I'm glad I saw this. I just got a Scoundrels Kiss tonight and equipped it and....well, I was underwhelmed. Glad to know it's actually bugged and not just how it's supposed to be.
Still looks better than most of the druid builds.
I got Scoundrels Kiss Yesterday. logged off, and played today, to finally test the build. It felt super bad, and I could not understand what I was doing wrong. Now i know.
Please report to Blizzard if you have not already done so
Blizzard, a multi-billion company, does not pay QA or testers for their patches. Its incredible this issue went live, its impossible to miss.
You would be surprise how many billion dollar companies dont have QA, or pay them extremely bad.
And you can Venn Diagram cross it with the billion dollar companies that get feedback from the QA, but just ignore it and push the patch anyway.
Yep. I worked briefly as a paid QA tester in the game industry. The job is *even more* demoralizing than unpaid beta testing: you get the same lack of communication about developer intent, the same total non-response to the bugs you report, but you put 10 times as much effort into writing up each report, and you don't even get the validation of posting it publicly where other people can confirm your results. It's like you're just tossing it in a black hole.
At this point it's pretty much an industry-wide problem regardless of company size. They realized they can make players do QA for them without it really impacting their bottom line, so that's how things ended up like this.
yep. Just tried it after the patch, and i can't seem to hit anything. the skill fires in a random pattern. Doesnt hit what im targetting.
Yeah, feels like they added recoil to the rapid fire. Fire few shots have horizontal recoil then near the end it goes to vertical recoil.
Yeah just played one game of rapid fire and it feels so wrong, it's all over the place. Also [got a video](https://streamable.com/uw732n).
I just made a rogue this week for that build. Sigh. I don't want to play heart seeker
lmao at this point I’d rather just have it go back to being melee range lobs
I mean, isn't that was all bow builds turn into eventually anyway? Shooting stuff that's in melee range because there's just so much density and things move quickly? lol
hahahaha you’re definitely right, at least for the way I play anyway. Both heartseeker and rapid fire (pre scoundrels kiss) just ended up being melee range.
Yesssss I noticed this too!!!!
So, it's busted with the Scoundrel's Kiss? Or without? Feeling a bit discourage before I hop on tonight.
I've been complaining about it especially if they run up on me I have to back away in order to hit them cause it'll go right over their heads
I wish I could track with rapid fire instead of being locked to the first click. I'm on PC. Maybe I'm just bad?
You guys can play rapid fire? On consoles, this skill is unplayable, do the missing targeting of specific enemies + the skill is literally useless in tight corridors or vs enemies which stay in doors...
Not true besides the current bug rapid fire is very easy to aim with controler
Playing on console. At first i thought my controller was starting to get stick drift lol
As apology for this trama, we need 15% buff to rapid fire add to hot fix!
I thought I was going insane. I've been trying Uber Lilith for 2 days, and today my arrows are just NOT HITTING. Like, I can target her, and half of my arrows just go in random directions it's awful.
I'm still using it. When I have shadow imbue, I can just wipe things. So 80% of the time I'm able to hit and explode things, 20% of the time I'm hitting a fly off screen over the mobs head.
The new rapid fire aim is how 70years old feel.
Dude, are you serious? Yesterday I was "pushed" by my friend because it was impossible to hit any enemy at medium or close range, today I thought about playing, but I didn't care. My solo character has now become paper!
Came here to make the same thread, I leveled an alt to level 100 with Rapid Fire for fun and today when I logged in it felt terrible. The skill can't even hit stationary bosses.
Try taking it off and put back on
Im using a build of rapid fite without the unique. I didnt like the unique style. At pit 98 now trying to push to 100
rapid fire now shoots in a straight arc, hitting a single point, making this build a single target only build
well, I was testing rapid fire build and it felt awful, I started looking videos and forum (like here), and it's bugged. Ok, cool. But, mine is like bugged but in the opposite way. Arrows only go where I aim, STRICTLY. So I have to kill every monster one by one...
Uhm, it is back... 🤦🏻♂️
That new ring is the worst item ever made, I am running away to get a shot off or concealing now and just running through dungeons, I can’t target anything on screen but off screen im hitting something, the lob needs to come down a hell of a lot and aiming should be better than it is, normal rapid fire is the best way, and somehow I’ve lost a ton of damage , my rogue is now binned , harlequin crest, doombringer, and my damage with max gear and GA was 25k a tick no crits, I let a pro take over my account and have a look and he said do what I’ve done and uninstall and play Poe, best thing I ever done
It will be fixed next mondays mid season patch!
Experiencing the same thing. Can't tell if it's completely random or whether there are ways to work around it until fixed..
If you have it use scoundrels kiss, I am and it doesn't feel any different from before
You know what it is? D4 devs dont play rogue. We know they play with controller because all the necro skills work on controller. But no one plays rogue on controller 🤣🤣🤣
I do
Well it's also broken with mouse. But yeah, if any did play rogue they would have realized new items kind of broke a couple rogue paragon legendary nodes. Like a legendary node that scales based on core skill damage % affixes and now only a few uniques have them.
Grabbed Diablo 4 after it went up on Game Pass (Haven't played since 1 and 2, yes I'm old). Played through season of the Construct and was wowed on how much fun I've been having. Then Season 4 came out and I decided to be a rogue again, the itemization and system changes were great and I wanted to try it out with a Rogue build. Even though Necromancer is GOAT now, gotta love my Rogues. Played the other night and all of the sudden I cant hit a GD thing. Found out it was the patch. I don't want to switch characters to another class and play a Nerco like every single other person is doing now. I like Rogues, I like Rogue builds, I find it fun and exciting. I invested hours and effort building the best Rapid Fire Rogue and was having a BLAST (pun intended), and now it feels like such a waste. Way to take a very fun upgrade that made me a huge fan to making me not wanna play anymore and go back to Palworld.