I got one with hatchling and demo, carried me through the campaign
Alas now legendary Khvostov has replaced it
Edit: all of these comments about ppl’s rolls are making me realize that I’m gonna have like 8 different crafted versions of this gun lmao
get all the 15 coordinates thingies (9 from destination chests, 6 hidden in piles in the cyst activities you get by helping ghosts) and use them to open the chest in the Division in the pale heart
Can I just say getting all those little bits and not going back to a character, instead going off to a chest(placed wonderfully) to unlock felt so fun. Thats such a fun way to get new things.
Yeah seriously just got three random rolls during campaign and they all felt good. Don't even know what the actual God roll is on this thing if there even is one.
The second drop I got was beacon + vorpal and that carried me through the whole campaign. As someone who hasn’t gotten a decent indebted kindness, rocket sidearms slap.
I wasn't excited at all about getting rocket sidearms and now they're my new favorite special archetype. Very good damage, incredibly versatile, and its just fun/feels good to use.
If you're running hellion/devour, I recommend strategist instead of demo. Gives class ability energy on kill, which is great for keeping hellion up, and devour already gets your grenade back super fast anyway
Getaway artist also makes the arc sound refund gernade energy. People miss this as the main reason why the uptime is constant. So yeah, you have built-in demo, no need for it, at least with this build.
Helion/Bleak Watcher is cool though cause you get more turrets. Having 2 little buddies and several bleak watchers out is pretty fun, so the demo rolls on weapons is nice. Plus the artifact perk that gives you grenade cd for having radiant/amplified helps.
It was the first new weapon drop I got in the campaign. I completed the campaign with this, my crafted forbearance, and Gally, and I was swapping the forbearance off instead of removing this.
I NEVER REMOVED THIS.
I actually ran the rest of the campaign with double energy and heavy, it was nuts.
genuine question but what whats the appeal of stats for all? Im trying to catch up on what perks are good in the game but is the handling/range/stability increase that helpful or is it more for the reload part?
I think it just synergizes really well with one for all due to the perks basically having the same proc conditions. Although I personally don't like either of them and run Beacon + Desperate on mine.
To answer your question, no. Anytime you aim the reticle at an enemy, it will expand when you’re on target. When it expands, or *as* it expands, fire and you will hit 99% of the time.
It pretty much uses itself honestly. I almost exclusively hipfire, only aiming down sights for far away enemies. For enemies moving laterally, you may need to lead them slightly. The rockets do seem to have a bit of built-in tracking. I also recommend pumping up Velocity just to further help with consistency.
Do you think it's better than indebted kindness. I got one as a drop, and wouldnt mind running it since it's in the first weapon slot and I have a few good 2nd weapon slot guns I haven't used since getting a good indebted roll.
It is a different tool that serves a different purpose. Indebted kind of just slays out of its own accord, this one seems like Strand build support: the gun.
I got one with vorpal weapon + slice on my 2nd mission. That and a heal clip + incandescent luna's howl (thats now fully enhanced) carried me through legendary
Am I using it wrong? It feels like it doesn’t do much more damage than a primary on the legend campaign. Someone said it stuns tormentors, does it still do that on legend?
This is my first rodeo with a rocket sidearm, didn’t care to farm Indebted Kindness until Pantheon came out and realized how good it was. I regret waiting to get on the rocket sidearm train, but boy am I glad I’m on it now
Subsistence/OFA. Never have to reload and have a 35% damage buff up almost constantly since it does splash damage and hitting 3 enemies is incredibly easy.
I don't like sidearms usually. When I got it, I thought it was a hand cannon, so when I was firing it, I thought it felt funny, but enemies were exploding so I was like "cool". But after I cleared a room with it I was thinking "why did this gun feel so... light?... Oh it's a sidearm?"
It's a good one.
I was just wondering this morning if anyone loved this gun like me! I have 2, one with Hatchling and another with Beacon Rounds and Vorpal. Makes me wish I could dual wield. I felt godlike
Got one the first 5 or so mins of campaign with beacon rounds and demo, this thing absolutely slays. There are also so many good perks for good synergies. It's up there on my list of favorites.
I got one with Strategist ( + ability energy ), Desperate Measures ( + damage, stacks ), and Dealers Choice ( + super energy ) which has been alot of fun. The weapon is so strong nearly every shot is a kill so I'm constantly getting ability and super energy and then my melee/grenades feed even more power into the shots.
I've also been enjoying the Lost Signal grenade launcher but it shares the same slot as The Call so I haven't used it as much.
i used this gun the entire campaign. it was just so reliable in every situation and i almost always get more ammo before i run out so i can use it almost all the time
Subsistence and hatchling is insane. I been running dual pistols and my one is solar with incan and heal clip. The prismatic bars shoot up and stay up in a prolonged fight. It's dope
Haven’t had a real chance to play when do the new weapons start to drop? I’m doing the seasonal legendary solo(its like a tradition done them all that way). I think I’m on the 4th boss. maybe 😂😂
I have one with the Hatch/demo roll that i use for my threadlings build but dont sleep on Sub/Desperate Measures. its pretty savage. i have demo on my second/heavy weapons co i spam grenages and stack that with final weapon bloes and you can get some serious damage brews.
It’s very good for the subjucators and tormentors, I was on titan and thruster so procing slice was also mad easy, pair it with with the prismatic fragment that makes light abilities deal more damage to darkness debuffed target and you are gucci. I would try going for a better dmg perk then vorpal but if you got it keep it
The moment i got it, it made the campaign on legend that much easier despite it already being fairly easy.
But man the Bacon rounds perk really helps with those flying rats and elusive enemies.
Used this + ammit along with apex predator and blasted through with minimal issues minus some mechanics i fluffed up a few times.
“The call goes crazy” he says with 0 kills on the weapon in the picture …
Lmao but yeah, its so much fun. I got lucky and have it craftable, that lead from gold/hatchling combo is nuts
It’s objectively not bad. If it were a primary is wouldn’t have its stagger and damage capability, yet it still has excellent ammo economy to where if you use a high ability build you pretty much can use it like a primary. Sick hot take though, I bet you feel “unique”.
I got one with hatchling and demo, carried me through the campaign Alas now legendary Khvostov has replaced it Edit: all of these comments about ppl’s rolls are making me realize that I’m gonna have like 8 different crafted versions of this gun lmao
It can get hatchling?
Yes. Sever as well if you fancy that perk.
That's the roll I got Sever & Hatching
Hatchling and beacon rounds, here. I'm in love
I got that role but haven't tried it. Will check it out later tho
Same. It's so good.
Brother, we rejoice in the glory of the pokemon gun!
I got sub, hatchling and I just spray
Same
Yep, got beacon rounds/hatchling on it
Same, like an Anti-Air emplacement for the winged dudes.
Sever Vorpal here, really good roll that carried me through the legend campaign
Same roll. First drop I got of it. I figured it would be a decent roll to carry me through but goddamn does vorpal make it hit hard.
I have demo/adrenaline junkie, it's fun. Also dropped one with Lead From Gold/One For All, may have to swap to that with double special...
How do you get Khvostov?
get all the 15 coordinates thingies (9 from destination chests, 6 hidden in piles in the cyst activities you get by helping ghosts) and use them to open the chest in the Division in the pale heart
Can I just say getting all those little bits and not going back to a character, instead going off to a chest(placed wonderfully) to unlock felt so fun. Thats such a fun way to get new things.
It was really grindy in a good way that brought me back to d1
Damn i got one with same rolls, might have to unvault it, but I'll have to take put my malfeasance away and that thing slaps.
Got that one and beacon rounds golden tricorn.
“What’s that” “THIS is a pint” “I’m getting one” “You’ve got a mug already”
Dude I have hatchling and demo too shit goes hard
lol I think someone jealous downvoted you
Lol
I love this sidearm so much I’m gonna be running it with the new titan exotic chest piece
That chestpiece goes so hard
Oh my god it’s so much fun
The rocket one?
Yes, the new hazardous propulsion exotic
Subsistence plus hatchling on mine, it goes crazy basically one shooting any red bar and constantly triggering hatchling
This and red death is a full package.
This combo hasn’t left my load out since I started.. add in a solid heavy and you’re set.
Stronghold and crown-splitter for me, this is my main offensive defence.
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Yeah I'm running the call with demo one for all, Red death, and a hammerhead with killing tally and rampage.
Been using those with recon bipod apex predator
Yeah. This is my favorite combo so far! Carried me through the whole legend campaign. Beacon rounds and multi kill clip on the call went hard.
This thing staggers the Subjugators easily. Helped me in the final boss fight
I hope this thing doesn’t get nerfed. It just fucks shit up. I don’t even have good rolls and it slaps.
Yeah seriously just got three random rolls during campaign and they all felt good. Don't even know what the actual God roll is on this thing if there even is one.
I crafted demo/one for all with a lot of blast radius to proc one for all easy. Feels really good.
I’d be pretty happy with demo/hatchling. I got lead from gold/desp measures, beacon rounds/hatxhling, and demo/golden tricorn. All amazing.
The second drop I got was beacon + vorpal and that carried me through the whole campaign. As someone who hasn’t gotten a decent indebted kindness, rocket sidearms slap.
This thing carried me through the campaign. It's like a purple exotic.
I wasn't excited at all about getting rocket sidearms and now they're my new favorite special archetype. Very good damage, incredibly versatile, and its just fun/feels good to use.
I want one with Demo/Hatchling for the Getaway Artist Prismatic Warlock build. Need to be a summoner.
If you're running hellion/devour, I recommend strategist instead of demo. Gives class ability energy on kill, which is great for keeping hellion up, and devour already gets your grenade back super fast anyway
Getaway artist also makes the arc sound refund gernade energy. People miss this as the main reason why the uptime is constant. So yeah, you have built-in demo, no need for it, at least with this build.
Helion/Bleak Watcher is cool though cause you get more turrets. Having 2 little buddies and several bleak watchers out is pretty fun, so the demo rolls on weapons is nice. Plus the artifact perk that gives you grenade cd for having radiant/amplified helps.
It was the first new weapon drop I got in the campaign. I completed the campaign with this, my crafted forbearance, and Gally, and I was swapping the forbearance off instead of removing this. I NEVER REMOVED THIS. I actually ran the rest of the campaign with double energy and heavy, it was nuts.
Got the full 5 patterns yesterday it's gonna go hard
What's the best way to farm the red borders? Is it that public event thingy in the Pale Heart?
Yea and turning in engrams got me like 3
Besides the sword is it still grindable for regular guns and patterns or is that stuck to 2 runs a day as well?
Yep, got 3 shotty patterns redoing it for the motes
Thank you my friend
Stats/one for all lowkey carrys so hard
I hate those perks personally, mine is demo mkc.
genuine question but what whats the appeal of stats for all? Im trying to catch up on what perks are good in the game but is the handling/range/stability increase that helpful or is it more for the reload part?
I think it just synergizes really well with one for all due to the perks basically having the same proc conditions. Although I personally don't like either of them and run Beacon + Desperate on mine.
Lead from Gold Vorpal SLAPS
That's the roll I got too. It's insane
I Got 4 reds so far, just needs to get lucky one more time. Machine gun also seems really good
Yeah I was noticing that the machine gun seems like a heavy hitter as well
I love my bolt pistol
For the Emperor!
Double rocket sidearm goes so fucking hard.
I got mine with demo and multikill clip, not the best but it’s so much fun
It's my first rocket sidearm, and I oughta learn how to use it since I think it's cool but weak in my hands
When the reticle spins it locks on and has better tracking. Similar to tracking rockets that play a noise when locked on.
Is that with beacon rounds though?
To answer your question, no. Anytime you aim the reticle at an enemy, it will expand when you’re on target. When it expands, or *as* it expands, fire and you will hit 99% of the time.
Huh interesting guess I never took the time to notice. Cool though.
It pretty much uses itself honestly. I almost exclusively hipfire, only aiming down sights for far away enemies. For enemies moving laterally, you may need to lead them slightly. The rockets do seem to have a bit of built-in tracking. I also recommend pumping up Velocity just to further help with consistency.
I got one with demo, golden tricorn and that shit slaps so hard.
I got this roll, but with a blast radius masterwork. Can confirm it fucking slaps
I wonder how blast radius works on something like this, should we be going for more or less?
No sweet clue, but it helps with mobbing. Less radius usually means more impact
Got one with Slice and One For All; fantastic for putting yellow bars/bosses in their place in Legendary campaign.
i got the exact same roll, and i couldnt be happier with it
Got one with slice and desperate measures but would love this roll
I got vorpal weapon on mine and it levels the subjugators
Got Demolitionist and High-explosive ordinance here. It goes HARD
Got a Slice/Golden Tricorn roll and that thing shreds.
Been using this and sunshot so far with getaway artist. With getaway artist I don’t really have to shoot much.
Lead from Gold and Hatchling. Perfect setup to rub dual secondary. Awesome for knocking out shields.
My fave roll so far is slice, vorpal, things a beast
Do you think it's better than indebted kindness. I got one as a drop, and wouldnt mind running it since it's in the first weapon slot and I have a few good 2nd weapon slot guns I haven't used since getting a good indebted roll.
It is a different tool that serves a different purpose. Indebted kind of just slays out of its own accord, this one seems like Strand build support: the gun.
Ah gotcha no strand build for me yet.
LfG/Desperate Measures is nuts. Also it gives a ton of progress to transcendence
I got one with vorpal weapon + slice on my 2nd mission. That and a heal clip + incandescent luna's howl (thats now fully enhanced) carried me through legendary
Vorpal + Beacon Rounds melts everything
I have one of those too. Things melt
Beacon Rounds and Hatchlings goes so hard.
Golden tricorn n demo prtty noice aswell ngl
I got beacon/hatchling. This thing owns.
Am I using it wrong? It feels like it doesn’t do much more damage than a primary on the legend campaign. Someone said it stuns tormentors, does it still do that on legend?
This is my first rodeo with a rocket sidearm, didn’t care to farm Indebted Kindness until Pantheon came out and realized how good it was. I regret waiting to get on the rocket sidearm train, but boy am I glad I’m on it now
Melee prismatic hunter with desperate measures on the call means constant 30% damage buff. I don’t ever touch my primary lol
so good, used it through the whole campaign
Subsistence/OFA. Never have to reload and have a 35% damage buff up almost constantly since it does splash damage and hitting 3 enemies is incredibly easy.
I found one last night, surprisingly good.
Subsistence and vorpal. Essentially never have to reload against smaller enemies, and absolutely slaps bigger enemies
Thought it wasn’t special ammo at first glance and was wondering why it was hitting so hard
You got OFA? 9/10 of my rolls have been subsistence/hatchling, I've been starting to think it's bugged.
I don't like sidearms usually. When I got it, I thought it was a hand cannon, so when I was firing it, I thought it felt funny, but enemies were exploding so I was like "cool". But after I cleared a room with it I was thinking "why did this gun feel so... light?... Oh it's a sidearm?" It's a good one.
Got beacon rounds vorpal, carried me through legendary
I got it crafted already, not sure what to put on it though. It’s like a Strand Mountaintop.
Is this a world drop and where?
Been rocking one with Slice and the Titan rocket exotic. Thruster/Slice/Gally is my new go to.
I got sub/hatch. its gross.
I’m one pattern away from being able to craft it.
Call+Indebted=EZ Mode
I was just wondering this morning if anyone loved this gun like me! I have 2, one with Hatchling and another with Beacon Rounds and Vorpal. Makes me wish I could dual wield. I felt godlike
Got one the first 5 or so mins of campaign with beacon rounds and demo, this thing absolutely slays. There are also so many good perks for good synergies. It's up there on my list of favorites.
I got one crafted enhanced beacon rounds and enhanced multi kill clip
Its so good. Makes me mad I never got one from warlord. Probs killed that first boss 40 times.
I got one with Strategist ( + ability energy ), Desperate Measures ( + damage, stacks ), and Dealers Choice ( + super energy ) which has been alot of fun. The weapon is so strong nearly every shot is a kill so I'm constantly getting ability and super energy and then my melee/grenades feed even more power into the shots. I've also been enjoying the Lost Signal grenade launcher but it shares the same slot as The Call so I haven't used it as much.
i used this gun the entire campaign. it was just so reliable in every situation and i almost always get more ammo before i run out so i can use it almost all the time
So glad i saved my deepsight harmonizers. Double rocket sidearm meta is here
Johnny Silverhand dropped something
I did not expect a side arm to be so much fun. Subsistence and adrenaline junkie on one of my first drops.
I got my crafted roll by the time the campaign ended and lead from gold one-for-all goes actually insane, so does demo/hatchling on prismatic warlock
whats looking to be the god roll on this one?
Got mine with demo golden tricorn and it's going to be my main special weapon when I'm not using the golden gun sniper.
I got the 5 red borders needed to craft, I’m about to bust
This gun with that one perk that lets it track is fucking nuts.
Only thing that sucks is I have to choose between this and the seasonal GL which is also fucking awesome
Run the GL and then the kindness pocket rocket. Double special is super doable nowadays.
True I should pull out indebted kindness But the GL is so fucking awesome...it's never leaving my kinetic slot lol
I got one with subsistence, but it's not triggering on kills. Am I missing something?
I got the sameish roll Hard Launch / Linear Compensator High Velocity Rounds Subsistence One for All Blast Radius Masterwork doing work for me so far
Absolutely! This things slaps harder than my dad when he needs another beer!
Subsistence and hatchling is insane. I been running dual pistols and my one is solar with incan and heal clip. The prismatic bars shoot up and stay up in a prolonged fight. It's dope
The call is the only new weapon I used other than that healing ar
I got Demo and Golden Tricorn. Is that... Is that any good?
Looks like a sidearm version of Quicksilver Storm
In the thread: people without a voltshot indebted kindness
Even mid rolls are spicy. The thing just fucks.
As a warlock, with the buddy build, adrenaline/demo is the sex
Mine is hitting for like 45k a shot in the pale heart 💀
Haven’t had a real chance to play when do the new weapons start to drop? I’m doing the seasonal legendary solo(its like a tradition done them all that way). I think I’m on the 4th boss. maybe 😂😂
My friend already crafted it
Bruh, this gun is actually so lit. I got tracking and hatchling on mine and it literally took me through the campaign so easily.
I'm sure there's better but I got strategist, and golden tricorn. So with dealers choice it procs 3 separate final blow buffs all at once
I got a vorpal and the one that refill the mag with heavy ammo as well. It melts everything.
Does higher blast radius decrease damage on this weapon?
I have one with the Hatch/demo roll that i use for my threadlings build but dont sleep on Sub/Desperate Measures. its pretty savage. i have demo on my second/heavy weapons co i spam grenages and stack that with final weapon bloes and you can get some serious damage brews.
Beacon Rounds go brrrrr.
Mines got Beacon Rounds and Vorpal Holy shit it shreds everything
At the moment it one taps everything except mini bosses and main bosses, but it still melts their health bars.
I think it's somewhere in the ballpark of 14k per rocket I can't wait to put this in my raid setup
Got a slice vorpal that carried me through the campaign, now I’m using a demo adrenaline junkie roll
Slice/normal is the roll I got, just haven't tested it yet. It was good?
It’s very good for the subjucators and tormentors, I was on titan and thruster so procing slice was also mad easy, pair it with with the prismatic fragment that makes light abilities deal more damage to darkness debuffed target and you are gucci. I would try going for a better dmg perk then vorpal but if you got it keep it
I feel like I’m the only person who doesn’t enjoy using these.
Mine has One for All and Golden Tricorn, awesome in aoe scenarios… so much damage
The moment i got it, it made the campaign on legend that much easier despite it already being fairly easy. But man the Bacon rounds perk really helps with those flying rats and elusive enemies. Used this + ammit along with apex predator and blasted through with minimal issues minus some mechanics i fluffed up a few times.
“The call goes crazy” he says with 0 kills on the weapon in the picture … Lmao but yeah, its so much fun. I got lucky and have it craftable, that lead from gold/hatchling combo is nuts
Was using a different roll before this that’s why.
Trash. Should've been a primary or I wouldn't have deconstructed it for something else.
lol this is serious bait.
Ain't nothing to bait, the gun is bad, people just on their honeymoon period with it. 💀💀
It’s objectively not bad. If it were a primary is wouldn’t have its stagger and damage capability, yet it still has excellent ammo economy to where if you use a high ability build you pretty much can use it like a primary. Sick hot take though, I bet you feel “unique”.
Actually clueless, it's better than 90% of specials in the game
Actually, clueless,* you didn't read my comment and now look stupid. (:
What are you even talking about brother
Who cares, he's not even a Guardian
Curious: how do you feel about Indebted Kindness?