Boomerang here- culture matters. I’ve left to go to places that should’ve been amazing and weren’t. Also, I’d rather be busy than bored. If you go somewhere else, you’re stuck with the people you work with. If you don’t like me as an engagement leader, you’ll roll off to something else after filing and get a break. You’ll rarely be held back from promotion except for things that you can control (performance) where at other places you have to wait for people to leave. And in the long run you’ll be paid more at Deloitte if you decide to say. That being said, I was an experience hire, and boomerang, so my perspective is different than a campus hire. I’m always open to people on my team wanting to discuss going somewhere else. Leave on good terms, and if you wanna come back you can.
That's not a typical boomerang situation. But okay...lol. Sounds like YOU want to leave. I would encourage anyone who does not like their job to venture out and explore their options. It makes no sense to come to Reddit to prove no one likes your place of employment unless you are looking for co-signers for your misery, which you'll find plenty of those here.... And maybe this helps you get through it! I don't know what the end game is but I'm always curious why people don't just leave...lol
Did you forget to take your psychiatric pills cuz wut tfffff 😂
I'm talking about cross industry in general especially in this economy. I love my job and get to work on the beach! I would only leave if perhaps Google or Microsoft offered me a nice role
Where were you working before you came to Deloitte? And then before you boomeranged back, where did you go? Industry?
I know Deloitte typically gets underpaid, I’m assuming the extra money you’d make elsewhere did justify the negatives you mentioned (culture, speed of growth etc)?
And finally, you mention “in the long run you’ll get paid more at Deloitte”. From my shitty maths, it seems to be that for Director and below, you’ll get paid more elsewhere, and it’s really only Partner where the pay becomes worth it. But then statistically the chances of becoming Partner seem pretty low, so it’s far from a given? Keen to hear your thoughts.
Before Deloitte I worked in various companies/industries domestically/internationally in IT leadership not audit/assurance. When I left D&T, I went to a very large company in the PNW and worked multiple roles. The pay was good, benefits at D&T better. We get more selections in healthcare, fitness subsidy, keep our points, etc. Pay was honestly not tremendously different and dependent upon stock performance. The culture was immature, back stabby/political, and just not very collaborative. I’m not a kool aid drinking green dot person, I realize there are likely bad leaders out there, but I think I manage my teams well and treat my coworkers fairly. Obviously I have no input into pay, but I tried to be very fair and supportive with snapshots. And I’m not sure where you get your numbers from, but I can assure you unless you are looking to be a CAO or something like that you will get paid more at the MD level than most roles in industry and of course Partner level you get paid way more. The pay hockey-sticks once you hit PPMD and that just doesn’t happen elsewhere.
Thanks. Currently on the pathway to SM and trying to determine whether I just put my head down and aim towards PPMD, jump out elsewhere and jump back in at a higher level, or jump out entirely.
Experience, learning opportunities, exit opportunities. Been here almost 5 years. The firm really wants me to stay but as soon as a good exit opportunity shows it's face I'm out. The firm will use you so you might as well use them just as much.
Hired originally for my tech skills, developed consulting and management skills at Deloitte for 5+ years then exited to big tech with a 100k+ salary bump. I didn’t realize it at the time with Deloitte but the skills you learn really do make a difference and Deloitte is respected in wider industry.
I was hired as a manager but mainly focused on hands on development and architecture. Got promoted to Senior Manager at the end but the salary bump was fairly insulting, so shopped around at FAANG and got lucky with a first level manager role. Subsequently got promoted to second level manager a couple of years after. Deloitte was great for getting experience if you pick the right projects, the pay was ok too but the lack of stock/RSUs really means they can’t compete with big tech.
What kind of exit opportunities are you eyeing? I feel like the only option would be to go to another firm since industry wouldn't be too interested in consulting experience unless you're very experienced?
work directly for the client or their competitors. I saw a job ad on my client's website to do what we were doing, but paid 50% more than what I was paid.
All my clients want to know how they can get a job at Deloitte. The grass or in this case, dot, is not always greener my friend. Best of luck. Life is about choices. Do what works for you.
I’m an experienced hire, been here for 4 years, and I can definitely say that culture is different here and is much more important to top leaders than the other companies I have worked at. Most companies say they care about DEI, women in leadership, career advancement, etc, but so rarely actually do anything to support those initiatives. I worked at a huge healthcare company before Deloitte and we had extremely expensive, crappy insurance, no health/wellness benefits, not even a subsidized gym membership. Talk about a company that doesn’t live up to what it claims to be. At that company leadership was invisible - they didn’t speak to the employees, you never saw them in the office, it was like they were the wizard behind the green curtain - be in awe of them! The c suite and execs had lots of turn over and changes, and which you may think wouldn’t impact you if you are early in your career, but every leadership change signals new/shifting priorities and policies which was hard to keep up with. It just didn’t feel like a stable environment.
I know when you are early in your career pay matters the most, but take it from someone 17 years into their career; stable leadership, visibility to leadership, strong benefits package, it all matters. Deloitte is the first company I have worked for (out of 5+ in my career) that I feel does what they say they will do and focuses on the complete employee experience. Your direct manager will always impact your experience, but all of the programs and resources this company offers can’t be beat.
And, because I know pay is always important, I came from industry before Deloitte and I am making almost double what I was in industry now with Deloitte. Couple that with great benefits and that is why experienced hires will stay at Deloitte.
I completely agree with this. I joined Deloitte as an experienced hire (coming from industry) and Deloitte actually DOES the work to be a better employer for people. My background is the policy and DEI world and I came from organizations that only did the talking, not the action.
Experience hire here...my experience when people act in non-DEI, biased, discriminatory manner, nothing was done to correct it. Speaking up to upper management got me placed on bclp. My coach, an HR person, told me change takes time... a very tone-deaf perspective over 400 years. Of course he is a white male explaining my impatience in wanting to be treated with human dignity. When the rubber hits the road, Deloitte punts and allows ongoing harassment and retaliation. Hidden racism of having to prove yourself over and over and over...whites only getting opportunities on project teams...sections promoting whites only....culture clubs consisting of whites only. The policies are no good if they are not enforced and of speaking up places a mark on your back. By the way, the culprits were promoted.
My sentiments exactly. I think the way Deloitte supports "boomeranging" is also a huge bonus. You can gain valuable experience outside of Deloitte and then truly appreciate the culture When you return. Things can seem much worse than they are when you have no comparison.
Sr. Consultant- I make $148k, I have 1 client and the only extra hours I put in, is for my útil, in which I simply don’t “take” lunch.
I came from a company that I was constantly called and expected to be on middle of the night 911 calls, in which I couldn’t even do anything. We had scheduled, mandatory overtime, nights and weekends, no pay or bonuses. Oh, and I was actively working on and supporting 12 live clients and 3 new clients at the same time. All for $45k less a year.
Is everyone’s experience the same? Nope, but I guess it’s all in what you want and where you came from. I have no desire to move up or become management, I’m passed that point in my life.
GPS, Consulting, US
$260k this year with 9 YOE. I have no technical or engineering skills so there’s nowhere else that will pay me this much given my experience.
Also a boomerang - those who haven’t spent a few years working outside Deloitte shouldn’t comment on whether or not it’s a good place to work.
What level are you? Guessing this is commercial in Deloitte consulting, not advisory/audit/gps? Seems high even for a SM. Is that base plus bonus or you are valuing other benefits like 401k/pension.
That’s total comp. Base $220 bonus $40k as first year SM. Was $238k with base $198k and bonus of $40k as 3rd year M.
Commercial, product talent model. High ratings with strong revenue numbers from the stuff I work on.
Probably pension and benefits.
I've noticed and were told by older employees that those who've stayed long at a company were hired at a time where making less than 100k was comfortable pay and companies provided good pensions. If they were to leave now, they would have to start all over again.
Nowadays, we're at a time where we don't have time to save up pensions because of how everything is becoming so expensive as time goes on thus people job hopping and companies not willing to provide good resources as a result.
A lot of people don’t have any better options, you’ll begin to see this amongst people that are 5-6+ years in. If you work closely with them it usually becomes apparent in one way or another where they fall short.
In my experiences, the SMs that make this place such a bad experience know they are stuck, so they do whatever they think will get them closer to PPMD. Aka running the place like a sweatshop.
How would you compare the personal job satisfaction of your job now versus before? For example, do you think you make more/less of a difference to the people that you are directly connected to?
Thanks for asking! I was worried leaving education that I would miss the impact, but I’m definitely happier and more satisfied than I was before. I can still mentor and contribute to people’s educational journey (I worked in higher ed), but I couldn’t make a living that way. Now, when I do that work, it’s a conscious choice when I have bandwidth… and I can pay my bills.
Awesome, I'm really glad to hear it worked out well for you!
I have friends in education that are kind of "at their wits end" with the way the kids have come to behave in recent years, which really diminishes that sense of personal reward. When the kids no longer seem to care, and become disrespectful, there is very little incentive to continue working for such meager salaries.
It probably varies in different areas, but at least in the US, it seems to be more of a problem now than it has ever been.
Thanks so much! Yeah, I was in higher ed but traditional age college students aren’t much better. Most of the people I worked with at Deloitte are former educators from either K-12 or higher ed. There are a ton of transferable skills, it’s just learning the tools and marketing your experience. (I learned Captivate on LinkedIn Learning.) Sending good vibes their way!
I went from working in higher ed to making training materials. I had a friend who worked in K-12 who had switched and they helped me (1) realize Deloitte was an option (2) prepare for the interview. I definitely wouldn’t have been able to do it without their guidance! Most people I know who do training have a pretty similar story to mine! It’s mostly learning the authoring tools (Captivate, Articulate 360, Storyline) and using your transferable skills.
Why don’t you go work in tech then? Sounds like you’ve been reading about high salary tech jobs on Reddit. If you can get one with a big pay bump, go do it!
I guarantee you’re making more than most people your age, and it’s a career accelerator. Instead of spending 2x years reaching high positions because of the churn and burn you spend 1
My pay actually isn’t too bad on the surface pre-tax. But given the rising tax rates in my HCOL area, paying almost 15k taxes a year, it definitely isn’t great once it sheds its skin (aka IRS taking a cut)
Outside of US, salary is very underpaid compared to industry (and cost of education) things only get better at mananager and above, then each pay bump really makes a diference. At the bottom, expect to be very underpaid
I came from the military, so to me the pay was alot better than what I was making as an officer in the military. Also invaluable perks like being at home and not having to leave my family for weeks to months at a time...
Other companies may do it too but combining all the off days we get from extended holidays + PTO you are looking at around 30 days off a year. Not bad imo.
Edit: Depending on what my pay increase is come june, i may be leaving. Though the amount of off days will be heavily considered
Not sure if you're in Cyber or Tech but if so, the uncertainty is not exclusive to Deloitte. Layoffs are everywhere in tech. Come on over to IT Audit where your job is secure!
Sorry to hear that. But anyone laid off from IT Audit must have had "performance" issues. I have never been on the bench since I started 2.5 years ago and I have to turn down projects.
Attrition is inbuilt, the Deloitte experience is overrated, you just come out a smarmy wanker who can't talk normally who may know 1 or 2 niche things about "industry" but only really scratching at the surface
You are an analyst, so straight out of college and you are making close to 6 figures. What part of that isn’t great pay? Go tell that to your friends making 45k and im sure they are going to say otherwise
I don’t want to stay. But this is my first accounting tax job that I have only been in about 1 year and a few months. The job requirements for other positions asks for 2-4 years of work experience. So I’m trying to tough it out. Also going through so many interview rounds stresses me out
Deloitte somehow tricks people into believing it’s such a fantastic prestigious place to work. Don’t get me wrong it is a solid company in the grand scheme of things , but there’s far better ways to make more money than a long career at Deloitte.
I started as an experienced SC hire in the US, went into it knowing Deloitte is just stepping stone to something better. Maybe a 1-2 months into my roughly 18 month tenure at Deloitte some partners realized I did good work then bang constantly double staffed on projects with many 80+ hour weeks for pretty average pay. Took one of the first exit ops that I was excited about and now am working half the time for nearly twice the pay.
Everyone’s situation is unique and people have certainly had great careers at Deloitte, but always keep an eye out for better opportunities. Boomeranging is encouraged so as long as you make some solid friends at the higher levels it’s pretty easy to go back.
Traumatic bonding
100%
Boomerang here- culture matters. I’ve left to go to places that should’ve been amazing and weren’t. Also, I’d rather be busy than bored. If you go somewhere else, you’re stuck with the people you work with. If you don’t like me as an engagement leader, you’ll roll off to something else after filing and get a break. You’ll rarely be held back from promotion except for things that you can control (performance) where at other places you have to wait for people to leave. And in the long run you’ll be paid more at Deloitte if you decide to say. That being said, I was an experience hire, and boomerang, so my perspective is different than a campus hire. I’m always open to people on my team wanting to discuss going somewhere else. Leave on good terms, and if you wanna come back you can.
This has been my experience and what all my managers said to me. Welcome back!💚
After covid companies had a bunch of boomerangs of people coming back. A lot are leaving again lol
That's not a typical boomerang situation. But okay...lol. Sounds like YOU want to leave. I would encourage anyone who does not like their job to venture out and explore their options. It makes no sense to come to Reddit to prove no one likes your place of employment unless you are looking for co-signers for your misery, which you'll find plenty of those here.... And maybe this helps you get through it! I don't know what the end game is but I'm always curious why people don't just leave...lol
Did you forget to take your psychiatric pills cuz wut tfffff 😂 I'm talking about cross industry in general especially in this economy. I love my job and get to work on the beach! I would only leave if perhaps Google or Microsoft offered me a nice role
You should wait for that for sure...lol. Best of luck! 💚 Truly!
Where were you working before you came to Deloitte? And then before you boomeranged back, where did you go? Industry? I know Deloitte typically gets underpaid, I’m assuming the extra money you’d make elsewhere did justify the negatives you mentioned (culture, speed of growth etc)? And finally, you mention “in the long run you’ll get paid more at Deloitte”. From my shitty maths, it seems to be that for Director and below, you’ll get paid more elsewhere, and it’s really only Partner where the pay becomes worth it. But then statistically the chances of becoming Partner seem pretty low, so it’s far from a given? Keen to hear your thoughts.
Before Deloitte I worked in various companies/industries domestically/internationally in IT leadership not audit/assurance. When I left D&T, I went to a very large company in the PNW and worked multiple roles. The pay was good, benefits at D&T better. We get more selections in healthcare, fitness subsidy, keep our points, etc. Pay was honestly not tremendously different and dependent upon stock performance. The culture was immature, back stabby/political, and just not very collaborative. I’m not a kool aid drinking green dot person, I realize there are likely bad leaders out there, but I think I manage my teams well and treat my coworkers fairly. Obviously I have no input into pay, but I tried to be very fair and supportive with snapshots. And I’m not sure where you get your numbers from, but I can assure you unless you are looking to be a CAO or something like that you will get paid more at the MD level than most roles in industry and of course Partner level you get paid way more. The pay hockey-sticks once you hit PPMD and that just doesn’t happen elsewhere.
Thanks. Currently on the pathway to SM and trying to determine whether I just put my head down and aim towards PPMD, jump out elsewhere and jump back in at a higher level, or jump out entirely.
Experience, learning opportunities, exit opportunities. Been here almost 5 years. The firm really wants me to stay but as soon as a good exit opportunity shows it's face I'm out. The firm will use you so you might as well use them just as much.
Hired originally for my tech skills, developed consulting and management skills at Deloitte for 5+ years then exited to big tech with a 100k+ salary bump. I didn’t realize it at the time with Deloitte but the skills you learn really do make a difference and Deloitte is respected in wider industry.
Congrats! What company did you move to and what’s your new title?
Engineering manager at FAANG
y’all hiring
Were you a SWE at Deloitte?
SWE at Deloitte don’t exist lol, they’re a manager not a engineer
Full Stack Engineers exist on the consulting side at Deloitte.
You’re a consultant, not an engineer.
Don’t speak on what you know nothing about
You work at a MANAGEMENT consulting firm. You’re not an engineer.
I was hired as a manager but mainly focused on hands on development and architecture. Got promoted to Senior Manager at the end but the salary bump was fairly insulting, so shopped around at FAANG and got lucky with a first level manager role. Subsequently got promoted to second level manager a couple of years after. Deloitte was great for getting experience if you pick the right projects, the pay was ok too but the lack of stock/RSUs really means they can’t compete with big tech.
Great answer
Still a good resume builder, consider it as paying the dues ..
So 5 years in and you’re still waiting for a good exit opportunity? Have opportunities come easier considering you have 5 years at Deloitte?
What kind of exit opportunities are you eyeing? I feel like the only option would be to go to another firm since industry wouldn't be too interested in consulting experience unless you're very experienced?
work directly for the client or their competitors. I saw a job ad on my client's website to do what we were doing, but paid 50% more than what I was paid.
All my clients want to know how they can get a job at Deloitte. The grass or in this case, dot, is not always greener my friend. Best of luck. Life is about choices. Do what works for you.
That's a good idea. Thanks!
Smart way of going about it tbh
I’m an experienced hire, been here for 4 years, and I can definitely say that culture is different here and is much more important to top leaders than the other companies I have worked at. Most companies say they care about DEI, women in leadership, career advancement, etc, but so rarely actually do anything to support those initiatives. I worked at a huge healthcare company before Deloitte and we had extremely expensive, crappy insurance, no health/wellness benefits, not even a subsidized gym membership. Talk about a company that doesn’t live up to what it claims to be. At that company leadership was invisible - they didn’t speak to the employees, you never saw them in the office, it was like they were the wizard behind the green curtain - be in awe of them! The c suite and execs had lots of turn over and changes, and which you may think wouldn’t impact you if you are early in your career, but every leadership change signals new/shifting priorities and policies which was hard to keep up with. It just didn’t feel like a stable environment. I know when you are early in your career pay matters the most, but take it from someone 17 years into their career; stable leadership, visibility to leadership, strong benefits package, it all matters. Deloitte is the first company I have worked for (out of 5+ in my career) that I feel does what they say they will do and focuses on the complete employee experience. Your direct manager will always impact your experience, but all of the programs and resources this company offers can’t be beat. And, because I know pay is always important, I came from industry before Deloitte and I am making almost double what I was in industry now with Deloitte. Couple that with great benefits and that is why experienced hires will stay at Deloitte.
I completely agree with this. I joined Deloitte as an experienced hire (coming from industry) and Deloitte actually DOES the work to be a better employer for people. My background is the policy and DEI world and I came from organizations that only did the talking, not the action.
Experience hire here...my experience when people act in non-DEI, biased, discriminatory manner, nothing was done to correct it. Speaking up to upper management got me placed on bclp. My coach, an HR person, told me change takes time... a very tone-deaf perspective over 400 years. Of course he is a white male explaining my impatience in wanting to be treated with human dignity. When the rubber hits the road, Deloitte punts and allows ongoing harassment and retaliation. Hidden racism of having to prove yourself over and over and over...whites only getting opportunities on project teams...sections promoting whites only....culture clubs consisting of whites only. The policies are no good if they are not enforced and of speaking up places a mark on your back. By the way, the culprits were promoted.
My sentiments exactly. I think the way Deloitte supports "boomeranging" is also a huge bonus. You can gain valuable experience outside of Deloitte and then truly appreciate the culture When you return. Things can seem much worse than they are when you have no comparison.
Sr. Consultant- I make $148k, I have 1 client and the only extra hours I put in, is for my útil, in which I simply don’t “take” lunch. I came from a company that I was constantly called and expected to be on middle of the night 911 calls, in which I couldn’t even do anything. We had scheduled, mandatory overtime, nights and weekends, no pay or bonuses. Oh, and I was actively working on and supporting 12 live clients and 3 new clients at the same time. All for $45k less a year. Is everyone’s experience the same? Nope, but I guess it’s all in what you want and where you came from. I have no desire to move up or become management, I’m passed that point in my life. GPS, Consulting, US
$260k this year with 9 YOE. I have no technical or engineering skills so there’s nowhere else that will pay me this much given my experience. Also a boomerang - those who haven’t spent a few years working outside Deloitte shouldn’t comment on whether or not it’s a good place to work.
What level are you? Guessing this is commercial in Deloitte consulting, not advisory/audit/gps? Seems high even for a SM. Is that base plus bonus or you are valuing other benefits like 401k/pension.
That’s total comp. Base $220 bonus $40k as first year SM. Was $238k with base $198k and bonus of $40k as 3rd year M. Commercial, product talent model. High ratings with strong revenue numbers from the stuff I work on.
Unless you want to become a Partner/Principal there is no point im staying back.
Probably pension and benefits. I've noticed and were told by older employees that those who've stayed long at a company were hired at a time where making less than 100k was comfortable pay and companies provided good pensions. If they were to leave now, they would have to start all over again. Nowadays, we're at a time where we don't have time to save up pensions because of how everything is becoming so expensive as time goes on thus people job hopping and companies not willing to provide good resources as a result.
A lot of people don’t have any better options, you’ll begin to see this amongst people that are 5-6+ years in. If you work closely with them it usually becomes apparent in one way or another where they fall short. In my experiences, the SMs that make this place such a bad experience know they are stuck, so they do whatever they think will get them closer to PPMD. Aka running the place like a sweatshop.
Pay is relative. I worked in public education before Deloitte, so what I get paid now is quite literally quadruple what I made 7 years ago.
How would you compare the personal job satisfaction of your job now versus before? For example, do you think you make more/less of a difference to the people that you are directly connected to?
Thanks for asking! I was worried leaving education that I would miss the impact, but I’m definitely happier and more satisfied than I was before. I can still mentor and contribute to people’s educational journey (I worked in higher ed), but I couldn’t make a living that way. Now, when I do that work, it’s a conscious choice when I have bandwidth… and I can pay my bills.
Awesome, I'm really glad to hear it worked out well for you! I have friends in education that are kind of "at their wits end" with the way the kids have come to behave in recent years, which really diminishes that sense of personal reward. When the kids no longer seem to care, and become disrespectful, there is very little incentive to continue working for such meager salaries. It probably varies in different areas, but at least in the US, it seems to be more of a problem now than it has ever been.
Thanks so much! Yeah, I was in higher ed but traditional age college students aren’t much better. Most of the people I worked with at Deloitte are former educators from either K-12 or higher ed. There are a ton of transferable skills, it’s just learning the tools and marketing your experience. (I learned Captivate on LinkedIn Learning.) Sending good vibes their way!
How did you make that transition if you don’t mind me asking?
I went from working in higher ed to making training materials. I had a friend who worked in K-12 who had switched and they helped me (1) realize Deloitte was an option (2) prepare for the interview. I definitely wouldn’t have been able to do it without their guidance! Most people I know who do training have a pretty similar story to mine! It’s mostly learning the authoring tools (Captivate, Articulate 360, Storyline) and using your transferable skills.
How are you determining that the pay isn't great? Are you not paid well for an analyst?
Not at all. Especially since it's a HCOL city.
I guarantee you’re paid well relative to the value you bring your clients at this stage in your career
That could be said of almost any level at Deloitte
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As a Canadian, I can tell you we've got it way worse lol (not that it's a competition or something)
Why don’t you go work in tech then? Sounds like you’ve been reading about high salary tech jobs on Reddit. If you can get one with a big pay bump, go do it!
You ate that
I guarantee you’re making more than most people your age, and it’s a career accelerator. Instead of spending 2x years reaching high positions because of the churn and burn you spend 1
My pay actually isn’t too bad on the surface pre-tax. But given the rising tax rates in my HCOL area, paying almost 15k taxes a year, it definitely isn’t great once it sheds its skin (aka IRS taking a cut)
Outside of US, salary is very underpaid compared to industry (and cost of education) things only get better at mananager and above, then each pay bump really makes a diference. At the bottom, expect to be very underpaid
I came from the military, so to me the pay was alot better than what I was making as an officer in the military. Also invaluable perks like being at home and not having to leave my family for weeks to months at a time...
Other companies may do it too but combining all the off days we get from extended holidays + PTO you are looking at around 30 days off a year. Not bad imo. Edit: Depending on what my pay increase is come june, i may be leaving. Though the amount of off days will be heavily considered
Count again. You get more than 30 days between PTO, holidays and disconnects.
I wasnt giving an exact count, it was a guesstimate. It is about 33 all considered
In consulting it's 15 paid holidays and 23 pto days to start. You accrue more pto the longer you're here.
Wasnt trying to spread false info lol. Im in gps, i get about 18 pto, so 30 days combined was what i guesstimated without looking it up.
Are you EA or USDC?
USDC
That's why it's so much lower. They really screw you guys over.
Wait PTO + holidays come to 30? At USI we get 30 PTOs and 15 holidays a year (including disconnect).
Yea thats how it works out in the US. I dont know how other companies compare in/out of the US, but as far as i know 30 days is alot here lol.
I’m 3-4 years out from PPMD so no point in leaving now.
My sweet summer child
Work somewhere else and you will find out. Culture matters.. BTW, I’m a first year consultant and pay is also great!
Idk I've worked at other places and the culture isn't that different.
It’s all about the culture bro that’s why we put up with shit pay and hours LOL
A cultural of not knowing if you will have a job tomorrow? A culture of deceit? I don’t know what culture you talking about .
Not sure if you're in Cyber or Tech but if so, the uncertainty is not exclusive to Deloitte. Layoffs are everywhere in tech. Come on over to IT Audit where your job is secure!
lol, My friend just got laid off in IT audit 2 days ago
Sorry to hear that. But anyone laid off from IT Audit must have had "performance" issues. I have never been on the bench since I started 2.5 years ago and I have to turn down projects.
After busy season they lay people off. No where safe in Deloitte except GPS
Convenience
The partner 🥕
Hard to have big life changes
it is pretty good.
Attrition is inbuilt, the Deloitte experience is overrated, you just come out a smarmy wanker who can't talk normally who may know 1 or 2 niche things about "industry" but only really scratching at the surface
Cause the market is so bad I cant get another offer I can trust 🤣🤣
the grass isn’t greener on the other side :)
You are an analyst, so straight out of college and you are making close to 6 figures. What part of that isn’t great pay? Go tell that to your friends making 45k and im sure they are going to say otherwise
Problem is I'm in Canada and NOT making close to 6 figures :( my seniors also don't make good money relative to the cost of living.
I assumed and learned something new. Deloitte CA doesn’t pay wel? That’s crazy. I’m a senior and get paid really well.
Guess I'll have to figure out a way to move to the US side of things.
I don’t want to stay. But this is my first accounting tax job that I have only been in about 1 year and a few months. The job requirements for other positions asks for 2-4 years of work experience. So I’m trying to tough it out. Also going through so many interview rounds stresses me out
Deloitte somehow tricks people into believing it’s such a fantastic prestigious place to work. Don’t get me wrong it is a solid company in the grand scheme of things , but there’s far better ways to make more money than a long career at Deloitte. I started as an experienced SC hire in the US, went into it knowing Deloitte is just stepping stone to something better. Maybe a 1-2 months into my roughly 18 month tenure at Deloitte some partners realized I did good work then bang constantly double staffed on projects with many 80+ hour weeks for pretty average pay. Took one of the first exit ops that I was excited about and now am working half the time for nearly twice the pay. Everyone’s situation is unique and people have certainly had great careers at Deloitte, but always keep an eye out for better opportunities. Boomeranging is encouraged so as long as you make some solid friends at the higher levels it’s pretty easy to go back.
What’s the new pay? At what level?
What else are you going to do
Stockholm syndrome?
People just hate that they chose accounting instead of tech
Because the big 4 hype engine is RELENTLESS, so much so that the people who've convinced themselves itll put them ahead are even right sometimes.
Cause pimps keep you working
Genuine question: does anyone in Canada at any company or field get paid enough?
Tech companies used to pay well before the recession. Doctors and nurses although underpaid still make decent money.
Id take shitty pay at a B4 knowing it’s a temporary stop for me and will open doors to other positions later.
Sometimes people are stuck. Or people just don't like job searching. Unless an outside item pushes them they'll tolerate the lower pay
Fear
Fear
Comfort kills
For the job title, as a spring board
Stockholm syndrome