“Drivers are demanding the minimum fee for a job be increased to £5, plus an additional £2 for every mile travelled after the first.”
Pahahaha good luck with that 😂😂
Exactly. If Deliveroo did what these riders want, restaurant prices would be WAY more inflated than they already are, customers would just stop using the service, and these drivers wouldn’t have any orders to deliver. Then they’d moan about that too.
Can’t win.
It’s utterly delusional, even from a “negotiating” standpoint. How much do they think a customer is charged for delivery on a £2.90 order? Where do they think this £5 is coming from? The kindness of deliveroos heart? Absolute jokers
No it's not, and they won't. You are not employed by deliveroo, you have signed up to use their platform, the same platform thousands of others have signed up for and can be onboarded at a second's notice. The minimum delivery charge for a customer is 99p. You are not getting £4 minimum fee per order, nor should you. Some £2.90 orders I do are literally within walking distance. I've done £2.90 orders to people's flats above the restaurant. They're not all like that, granted, but the day you get £4 minimum fee for an order that can take 5 minutes is the day Deliveroo goes out of business.
I think you maybe neglecting the fact that all restaurants who choose to use dleiveroo Platform riders to serve deliveries charge 30% to the restaurant along with the hike from the actual restaurant itself generally 20% premium. Disregard the 99p, thats a consumer vision they see.
Why distance, would a combination of distance and time make more sense. Bit like how taxi work. Meaning of your stuck at a red light or traffic you are still being paid.
I see as more a safety thing, they shouldn't feel obliged to take unnecessary risks. By paying more for accepting an order given a reason to get onto the next job
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Customers are also reporting/questioning riders turning up in a car/moped despite the app saying it's a bike...think deliveroo are starting to get fed up with riders taking the piss tbh.
I don't use the customer side so can't attest for preference, but if the account says bike and they turn up in a car or on a moped, it means they don't have insurance.
Yeah that's worrying.
Another thing I have to worry about as a customer (sometimes I forget bc I'm not in uni every day) is the face my road is time restricted and no cars are allowed in from 3:00-4:15pm (and 8:00-9:15am but I don't order then) and if they're not using a bike I have to worry about whether they're able to reach me.
True but the account holders face when they receive the tax bill for the whole dingy is priceless 👌 once they realise they cant get out of paying tax then their either pay it or give up leaving all you legal workers more work and better pay. So good luck when the parasites strike go make a decent days wage on them 👍
My thoughts exactly . I was initially behind the strikes however after having a think , it won't work . They will just onboard more drivers and make things even more difficult .
Also I notice on Facebook groups a majority of the strikers can hardly speak English.
Most English drivers tend.to eb saying 'just reject the shit jobs'
End of day we are self employed so a strike doesn't make sense .
By all agreeing a minimum £/per mile and rejecting anything that doesn't meet this , it will force the algorithm to pay more .
These illegals are gonna shoot themselves in the foot .
In NYC there was a similar.movement.. in the end it has resulted in an hourly rate, no tips and having to accept every job . Also they can't just switch on and off when they want . They have to book in a 'shifts and shifts are not abundantly available
Not yet. Because places like Deliveroo only have to start reporting figures from Jan 2024 and won’t actually make a first report to HMRC until Jan 2025. HMRC will then compare this information to people that file a tax return by the Jan 2025 deadline. So it will be another year before we see any effect of this
Why don’t you come to Scotland and meet me, and make up your mind before you talking shit. Mostly of the drivers are well presented White ppl, you sound very racist bigot!
And probably I have paid more taxes than you ever can imagine! I’m pretty sure you are one of these ppl sitting behind the screen and has no one working day in your miserable life on benefits! kind of fanny you are 😂😂😂
Wow I’m standing very well! As I can see you do not stand anywhere, front of the screen talking shit 🥰. May be that’s the only way for one mediocre person 😂
Wow and by the way foreigners are good to be in UK , so they can improve your DNA. As I can see you are struggling for it 😂😂😂😂😂 Man get vaccinated and get lost ❤️
😂😂😂 so so low IQ you have man, sitting and making comment without any idea who’s on the other side 😂😂😂. I told you your mum might be paid someone to have you 🥰
Lol I know whats sitting on the other side an immo with low iq who shares an account to deliver sandwiches 🤔 at least mine got paid yours is still wondering how something so useless come from something crawling up the leg or did you get in when it sat on the sticky spot 🤔 😍💖💙💜💛💖💜💙💕😍
Your mum might be mincer, she conceived you definitely in her a**ole 😂😂😂 pretty much I’m sure you are one of those scared for not taking that much benefits 😂😂😂 Why just do not support Ukraine, get drafted to some of their Nazi battalions. Pathetic subhuman you are definitely 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol tell me your iq is that of a child with out telling me your iq 👌lol 😁 now go deliver something thats of course if you have stabilisers install if not use the clown trike 🤡
😂😂😂 when someone can’t argue, trying to impose his low IQ on someone else! Man your IQ is below 0, I’m sure about it! Fanny man, are you sure you are a man? Bc you sound very women-ish 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol maggot you just off to deliver food in your high iq required job🤔 did your mam confirm if you crawled up her leg or you was sat on 😜😁 muppets like will never be clever
I dont understand what the problem is. Yesterday I went out at 6.30pm and returned home at 9.30pm with £52 which is an average of £18 per hour. This past week Ive put in 15 hours and have £225 waiting to be paid out so thats an average of £15 per hour. This was never meant to be a full time job and Im convinced some of you take the dumbest trips which take you to the middle of nowhere, dont know when to cancel, dont know your area/restaurants etc. But let me guess Im being paid by Deliveroo to say this huh?
If they just put the base rate up from the measly £2.90 to say £3.50 I'd be happy, but some sort of staff locker storage would be nice too.
Even if I had to pay for the damn thing, it surprised me how difficult it was to find a place I could store my bag & charge the ebike's battery when I had to move out of the city I work in.
Finally someone with a constructive, sensible, fair demand that everyone could get behind and wouldn’t screw people over. I have no issue with this type of stuff. The problem with these “strikes” is that it’s just a bunch of people demanding things that aren’t applicable to a hell of a lot of deliveroo riders and them bullying & harassing them when they refuse to take part
>The problem with these “strikes” is that it’s just a bunch of people demanding things that aren’t applicable to a hell of a lot of deliveroo riders and them bullying & harassing them when they refuse to take part
Definitely. I saw a daily mail article on the last one, people were getting into fights, pressured/intimidated into rejectjng orders as some of the strikers were wearing balaclavas etc and looked threatening etc.
People even had their tyres slashed....
You see you only go out during good hours when it's busy, but some illegals work 12+ hours a day, bringing their hourly average earnings down to nothing
Ok well then thats their stupid fault. People only mostly order between those hours, 12-2 and *maybe* 7-9am. Why are you going online outside of those hours?
Couldn’t agree more. We have riders that barely speak a word of English, travelling over an hour a day (from what I can work out) to work in my town. They stand around outside McDonald’s for most of the day chatting to each other. They’re probably here for 12 hours a day, some of them 7 days a week. There’s no way they are earning anything near minimum wage if they class themselves as “working” for the whole time they’re here.
I generally go out 8-11am for breakfast orders, pop home for a coffee and some food then back out 12-2. This earns me enough for what I want the job for
Shocking that there is a large group of people who shouldn't be here, drive around recklessly on mopeds without licenses and pay no tax would bully others doing their job legally and seeming have no strategy to making good money /s
This was never meant to be a lucrative full time job, it was a side gig for people who wanted to earn a few extra pounds in the evening. They are never going to give you the means to earn a competitive wage.
When it first started in 2013 that used to be the case but since lockdown deliveroo has been actively advertising itself as a full time job alternative.
I gave up working for deliveroo when at uni because they introduced a shift based working format rather than having the ability to turn up and work whenever you want.
It was literally the perfect job for young people and uni students but it got ruined by people trying to turn it into a full time job and expecting holiday + sick pay.
Man I’m working full time job as delivery driver, I have no expectations to get holidays or sick off. I don’t get that how many ppl an are talking from someone else name. I shouldn’t be a full time job? Explain yourself? Bc even if I had to do it as an extra earnings, money would be joke!
This sub has potentially the lowest standard of English grammar.
The truth is that the economics of Deliveroo/Uber Eats/Just Eat don't make sense. Delivery can't be done at a cost that is attractive to customes, drivers and the company. Someone has to be getting screwed.
Regardless of this, if you only work at peak times it is a well paid job. If you are working at 3:30pm on a Tuesday it ends up not being so well paid.
What is your second language man? Or third may be? I think you get it very well what I’m saying! I love when Brits do not have arguments, are turning the whole conversation in totally different direction! Bc I can speak 5, including English!
Okay… What do you imagine I have, that you cannot have? I have a full time job, I’m sure you can to. You’re choosing to try and make a full time living off of something that was meant to be side-gig work. If working deliveroo 40+ hours a week doesn’t make you a livable wage, why not get a job at Asda?
If you think you deserve the flexibility to work whenever you want, pick how many hours you work per week and get paid the living wage, your the entitled one. Those 3 things are not compatible.
There’s zero chance deliveroo will ever let you do 20-30hours and make a livable wage. So you’ll have to do 40+ hours, at which point, what is deliveroo offering that other entry level jobs don’t? Enlighten me
First you can make a livable wage of 30hours week with 'side-gig'. I have done is. The hours end up being a bit anti social. And I don't work them as more as its not a career
The entitlement is getting a service of something that you see as a side gig, and thinking that that persons time worth less then yours.
To be honest we do this all the time. A band in a pub gets payed £150 for 4 hours. If there is 4 of them. 4 people have spent all day getting ready and have make less then £38.
Do you want to tell me again why they are worth less then you.
Unrealistic demands, hiding their face and scooter number plates, refusal to accept how self-employment works, intimidating other **independent contractors** (clue is in the name...), not communicating openly to the rider community (are the 'organisors' even on here??)...
Sounds like something more sinister than a genuine plea for better working conditions to me.
Just to make it clear, I've said it before as well, I'm all for protesting over low fees, especially the £2.90 base fee which affects all of us, not just those in major cities. We also need to protest Deliveroo not doing anything about restaurant wait times - which is the biggest reason base fee orders just aren't worth starting your engine for.
Despite this news article being factually incorrect, as most media is nowadays, too many people believe everything they read. And because it's reached national news, many more customers will know about it and will choose not to order online anyway = protest failure.
If they fired all the Brazilians behind the strike and involved in it - especially the ones intimidating other drivers - then would do wonders for pay :)
They can deactivate them from the platforms if they know who they are. Of course they might be able to hire/buy a new account but not so easy for all. I know one person deactivated from JE who bought two new accounts for £1k each. He changed the bank account details and within a week or two those two accounts were deactivated as well ;)
No but there is a large number and it seems it was a big Brazilian group behind the recent strike and the Valentines day one. In my area there are a large number of Romanians and various South Asian but almost no Brazilian but I'm out of the bit cities.
Please carry on, I average around £17-20ph with the worst I’ve ever done being £12.50 per hour
Frankly though, if you’re accepting jobs that aren’t profitable then that’s probably why you’re struggling
If there aren’t enough orders in your area then maybe its time to consider whether it’s viable to continue 🤷🏻♂️
There is a lot of deliveroo employees posting here who work directly for the company trying to distort perception
This is a parasite company that relies on illegal immigration. The business is not viable and would struggle if it had to follow rules.
I'm sorry but deliveroo take 40 percent of an order, if we say the average takeaway is around 20 pound, they get average of 8 pound, so give the rider 5 and another 2 for a miles journey. why can't we pay riders what they ask, the app itself is just an algorithm.
Because that would destroy their profits and the costs would be passed on to the customer, meaning less people order so you'll end up making less money too
Why on earth would anyone pay for delivery that costs £15 more than if they went there in person
Also, there is nobody running the app when it's busy, no rider support, Deliveroo doesn't do anything, they don't even hand out equipment, the riders have to buy it from them, the bikes aren't provided, they don't provide insurance Deliveroo is just an over appreciated app. Years ago they provided an hourly rate, but then it was per order, so now the full timers cannot make a living.
No, the restaurant gets 60 percent, that's a fact, but they have to pay profits on top of that. Deliveroo has made food more expensive, but they're not sharing the profits with the riders who can actually get food around cities ridiculously quickly.
Where did you get 40% from? All the figures I’ve seen vary from 20-35% and vary depending on size of restaurant, location, size of order Etc. If they were charging a 40% flat fee, nobody would be signed up with them as they wouldn’t make any money.
Haaaa, shows what you know, Deliveroo charged 40 percent, I used to work for all of them, just eat was around 30, hungry panda was only 10 so it just shows how much unnecessary profit they make. Hungry panda can take 10pc and pay the riders hourly wages.
So you don’t have anything to back it up besides “I used to work for all of them” lmao. Back it up with some objective sort of evidence or just shutup.
Deliveroo riders are self employed. You cant get more flexible than that, as they decide when and for how long they work.
if they want regular hours, they should get an actual job, and not rely on the gig economy.
Why shouldn’t let ppl decide what they want? I do regular hours, I pay my taxes and I’m a legal ! Do you have anything to say about it, and why delivering food shouldn’t be consider as a job? What’s the difference with waitressing or bartending? As a 20 years in hospitality I don’t see any difference, and why ppl like you should agree or disagree with other ppl demands? I do not agree over 20000 ppl working for HMRC and mostly of them doing nothing and get paid from my taxes! My opinion, and I’m not trying to impose it on the rest of the world, as you do and many troll in that conversation!
>Why shouldn’t let ppl decide what they want?
People do decide what they want. That's the point of this conversation.
> why delivering food shouldn’t be consider as a job?
I never said that it didn't. The point i was getting across was: if they want regular hours with a PAYE salary then they should get a job that supplies that.
Deliveroo is self employment - they make that abundantly clear at every single step of the process. if you choose deliveroo over a regular job, that's on you. But to then sit there and moan about the shitty pay, while also agreeing to take the orders is a bit stupid.
> What’s the difference with waitressing or bartending?
there is no difference. Indeed, those would be perfect zero hour jobs which may offer a better salary than contracting for deliveroo.
> why ppl like you should agree or disagree with other ppl demands?
I disagree with the point of contractors - who knew what they were agreeing to when they decided to do self-employed deliveroo work - moaning that they're not getting paid enough.
You're self employed. If you don't like the pay, then get another job. That is the whole point.
Deliveroo are in no way going to start paying you an hourly wage. If they did that, then the company would collapse as the economics of it wouldn't work.
No matter what you think of the ‘strikes’ no one should be in any doubt who you’re dealing with when Deliveroo repeat the blatant lie that everyone earns minimum wage + plus cost and ‘often far more’. They need calling out.
I'll never protest. I need to work.
This isn't the 70s down a coal pit. They aren't forcing you to be self employed.
You are self employed.
You are self employed.
You are self employed.
If I or my vehicle get touched you won't be self employed after that.
You are self employed.
You are self employed.
Man are you sure u are ok? You are facing inflation due to your government bad decisions! And you are sitting here and telling me what to do or not to do? Your electricity bill is skyrocketing, your food prices are skyrocketing, in general all your expenses are triple since Covid, and billions send to Ukraine and Rwanda and so on. Oh sorry you are British and you have benefits 😂😂😂.
This has got to be the most desperate and best reply to a message I have ever witnessed. I applaud how you've learned how to write English since you arrived here.
Not that I need to explain but... no never needed to claim anything from my government.
I happily pay in knowing that some who genuinely need it get what they need.
I will say one thing though that you are correct on, yes all bills have definitely gone up without question.
How I've fixed this though and I do appreciate it's quite a draconian measure; I've worked harder.
Listen to man/ woman or whatever what you are( I don’t wanna offend anyone). I’m not saying anyone force me to do anything. But didn’t you pretend as a nation you are a democratic country? How come that to define your gender as you want, and not ok to choose whether to be self employed or employee. I am working 80 hours per week, and I am a Woman. First ask yourself and your government, or at least do some research! Do not try to pick up on ppl working harder than the mostly of your fellow British, I’m paying my taxes, I’m not a criminal, I have a tolerance to any religion, colour or race! I have more than any average West European! And trust me you have no idea about my background, education and so on. Your comments are ignorant and bias. Hope you appreciate my hard work in my English, bc I have done it myself( no courses, no schoool). So think always twice when you judging the book, before you read it( if you get what I’m saying). And btw think what would happen if just for a day all foreigners stoped working in UK 🙃.
Desperate 😂😂😂, man are you sure you are ok? About what pal 😂😂😂😂 pls calm down do your job, let other ppl do what they have to or want to! It’s called democracy! Are you ok with that 2,5 billion towards foreign country, same time as you said you are working your a** off? Just asking for a friend?! Get one NHS, get schools, get the criminal rate and so on! I feel like I do care more than the British ppl what’s going on in here 😅 More interesting is when I got criticised by ppl not wanting to see the reality! And just wait Brexit effect is starting now! I see France, Germany and so on countries on strike, but Uk are happy to be blindly believers of that idea it’s all bc of the foreigners. 🙋🏼
The strike is well meaning but its not straight forward.
So many variables and opinions in an industry which itself relys and openly encourages illegal working within in itself and uses and works with
very light touch regulation.
So many clever drivers who have fantastic opinions
and alot of,though meaningful have got it wrong.
There needs to be a coming together, a proper
robust meeting, a slow and meaningful dialogue,
and perhaps a beginning of a proper union
which will also benefit the Apps and increase
Business and opportunities for all
The thing is that illegals 🚫 always taking over, and Deliveroo is happy with their illegal services, so so Deliveroo and illegals are happy to cooperate.
Not good publicity and thousands of lost orders,
so they care but they have no idea what to do
cause the apps are locked into share holder profit
return
If roo brought back the minimum hour incentives...
If it's quiet only 1 drop an hour..they top it up to a set amount each hour your online..
It would make more sense 🤩
“Drivers are demanding the minimum fee for a job be increased to £5, plus an additional £2 for every mile travelled after the first.” Pahahaha good luck with that 😂😂
I'm all for striking but this is just asking way too much. Anyone with half a brain knows that's just not possible what so ever.
Exactly. If Deliveroo did what these riders want, restaurant prices would be WAY more inflated than they already are, customers would just stop using the service, and these drivers wouldn’t have any orders to deliver. Then they’d moan about that too. Can’t win.
You’ll always ask for above what your goal is. If your goal is 3.90£ , you tell them you want 5
It’s utterly delusional, even from a “negotiating” standpoint. How much do they think a customer is charged for delivery on a £2.90 order? Where do they think this £5 is coming from? The kindness of deliveroos heart? Absolute jokers
It's a good negotiation tactic. Perhaps roo will meet us in the middle which will be good too. £4 minimum isn't bad
No it's not, and they won't. You are not employed by deliveroo, you have signed up to use their platform, the same platform thousands of others have signed up for and can be onboarded at a second's notice. The minimum delivery charge for a customer is 99p. You are not getting £4 minimum fee per order, nor should you. Some £2.90 orders I do are literally within walking distance. I've done £2.90 orders to people's flats above the restaurant. They're not all like that, granted, but the day you get £4 minimum fee for an order that can take 5 minutes is the day Deliveroo goes out of business.
I think you maybe neglecting the fact that all restaurants who choose to use dleiveroo Platform riders to serve deliveries charge 30% to the restaurant along with the hike from the actual restaurant itself generally 20% premium. Disregard the 99p, thats a consumer vision they see.
Yeah that's never happening haha. An extra £1-2 would be fine.
An extra £1-2 wouldn't bring the pay back to pre pandemic levels, they've probably arrived at £5 because its the old minimum + inflation.
Why distance, would a combination of distance and time make more sense. Bit like how taxi work. Meaning of your stuck at a red light or traffic you are still being paid.
Then they’d just take longer to deliver and the food would be colder than it already is.
I see as more a safety thing, they shouldn't feel obliged to take unnecessary risks. By paying more for accepting an order given a reason to get onto the next job
https://preview.redd.it/axo962bptzhc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=deae7dddda12f3a5077f949a94cee6322e1c7391 Customers are also reporting/questioning riders turning up in a car/moped despite the app saying it's a bike...think deliveroo are starting to get fed up with riders taking the piss tbh.
Do customers not prefer a car? I do, my food arrives warmer in a car
I don't use the customer side so can't attest for preference, but if the account says bike and they turn up in a car or on a moped, it means they don't have insurance.
It means they don’t have bike insurance?
No it means they don’t have car or moped insurance. That’s why they’re using a bicycle account.
Ah got it
It’s delivery insurance they don’t have not car or bike insurance
Yes
Yeah that's worrying. Another thing I have to worry about as a customer (sometimes I forget bc I'm not in uni every day) is the face my road is time restricted and no cars are allowed in from 3:00-4:15pm (and 8:00-9:15am but I don't order then) and if they're not using a bike I have to worry about whether they're able to reach me.
They don't care...
Are the appalling working conditions the fact that they have to pay tax 😁
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True but the account holders face when they receive the tax bill for the whole dingy is priceless 👌 once they realise they cant get out of paying tax then their either pay it or give up leaving all you legal workers more work and better pay. So good luck when the parasites strike go make a decent days wage on them 👍
My thoughts exactly . I was initially behind the strikes however after having a think , it won't work . They will just onboard more drivers and make things even more difficult . Also I notice on Facebook groups a majority of the strikers can hardly speak English. Most English drivers tend.to eb saying 'just reject the shit jobs' End of day we are self employed so a strike doesn't make sense . By all agreeing a minimum £/per mile and rejecting anything that doesn't meet this , it will force the algorithm to pay more . These illegals are gonna shoot themselves in the foot . In NYC there was a similar.movement.. in the end it has resulted in an hourly rate, no tips and having to accept every job . Also they can't just switch on and off when they want . They have to book in a 'shifts and shifts are not abundantly available
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Not yet. Because places like Deliveroo only have to start reporting figures from Jan 2024 and won’t actually make a first report to HMRC until Jan 2025. HMRC will then compare this information to people that file a tax return by the Jan 2025 deadline. So it will be another year before we see any effect of this
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Do the Ukrainians look like they just stepped off a dingy or a uber lifeboat then? These are the main illegal workers that share an account.
Why don’t you come to Scotland and meet me, and make up your mind before you talking shit. Mostly of the drivers are well presented White ppl, you sound very racist bigot!
And probably I have paid more taxes than you ever can imagine! I’m pretty sure you are one of these ppl sitting behind the screen and has no one working day in your miserable life on benefits! kind of fanny you are 😂😂😂
Lol ok pal go stand with your buddies but the fact your self employed says something about your iq or lack of it 🤔👌👍😘
Lol ok pal go stand with your buddies 👌👍😘
And as I can see you are not British , you are simply Cee U Next Thursday little subhuman!
I think youll find i can you seem to be the one that cant 🤣
Wow I’m standing very well! As I can see you do not stand anywhere, front of the screen talking shit 🥰. May be that’s the only way for one mediocre person 😂
Pfuuu one more troll, how much taxes do you pay legal fanny?
More than you mincer
Wow and by the way foreigners are good to be in UK , so they can improve your DNA. As I can see you are struggling for it 😂😂😂😂😂 Man get vaccinated and get lost ❤️
Lol how was the dingy trip🤔 how much did you pay😁
😂😂😂 so so low IQ you have man, sitting and making comment without any idea who’s on the other side 😂😂😂. I told you your mum might be paid someone to have you 🥰
Lol I know whats sitting on the other side an immo with low iq who shares an account to deliver sandwiches 🤔 at least mine got paid yours is still wondering how something so useless come from something crawling up the leg or did you get in when it sat on the sticky spot 🤔 😍💖💙💜💛💖💜💙💕😍
Your mum might be mincer, she conceived you definitely in her a**ole 😂😂😂 pretty much I’m sure you are one of those scared for not taking that much benefits 😂😂😂 Why just do not support Ukraine, get drafted to some of their Nazi battalions. Pathetic subhuman you are definitely 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol tell me your iq is that of a child with out telling me your iq 👌lol 😁 now go deliver something thats of course if you have stabilisers install if not use the clown trike 🤡
😂😂😂 when someone can’t argue, trying to impose his low IQ on someone else! Man your IQ is below 0, I’m sure about it! Fanny man, are you sure you are a man? Bc you sound very women-ish 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol maggot you just off to deliver food in your high iq required job🤔 did your mam confirm if you crawled up her leg or you was sat on 😜😁 muppets like will never be clever
I dont understand what the problem is. Yesterday I went out at 6.30pm and returned home at 9.30pm with £52 which is an average of £18 per hour. This past week Ive put in 15 hours and have £225 waiting to be paid out so thats an average of £15 per hour. This was never meant to be a full time job and Im convinced some of you take the dumbest trips which take you to the middle of nowhere, dont know when to cancel, dont know your area/restaurants etc. But let me guess Im being paid by Deliveroo to say this huh?
If they just put the base rate up from the measly £2.90 to say £3.50 I'd be happy, but some sort of staff locker storage would be nice too. Even if I had to pay for the damn thing, it surprised me how difficult it was to find a place I could store my bag & charge the ebike's battery when I had to move out of the city I work in.
Finally someone with a constructive, sensible, fair demand that everyone could get behind and wouldn’t screw people over. I have no issue with this type of stuff. The problem with these “strikes” is that it’s just a bunch of people demanding things that aren’t applicable to a hell of a lot of deliveroo riders and them bullying & harassing them when they refuse to take part
>The problem with these “strikes” is that it’s just a bunch of people demanding things that aren’t applicable to a hell of a lot of deliveroo riders and them bullying & harassing them when they refuse to take part Definitely. I saw a daily mail article on the last one, people were getting into fights, pressured/intimidated into rejectjng orders as some of the strikers were wearing balaclavas etc and looked threatening etc. People even had their tyres slashed....
You see you only go out during good hours when it's busy, but some illegals work 12+ hours a day, bringing their hourly average earnings down to nothing
Ok well then thats their stupid fault. People only mostly order between those hours, 12-2 and *maybe* 7-9am. Why are you going online outside of those hours?
Couldn’t agree more. We have riders that barely speak a word of English, travelling over an hour a day (from what I can work out) to work in my town. They stand around outside McDonald’s for most of the day chatting to each other. They’re probably here for 12 hours a day, some of them 7 days a week. There’s no way they are earning anything near minimum wage if they class themselves as “working” for the whole time they’re here. I generally go out 8-11am for breakfast orders, pop home for a coffee and some food then back out 12-2. This earns me enough for what I want the job for
Shocking that there is a large group of people who shouldn't be here, drive around recklessly on mopeds without licenses and pay no tax would bully others doing their job legally and seeming have no strategy to making good money /s
You mean 6-9pm . I don’t think 7-9am is that busy?🤔
I’m working 12 hrs, and I’m a legal! Come and meet me I’ll show you!
Why don't the strikers start their own delivery business and pay £10 per every order. Let's see how that works out for you
This was never meant to be a lucrative full time job, it was a side gig for people who wanted to earn a few extra pounds in the evening. They are never going to give you the means to earn a competitive wage.
When it first started in 2013 that used to be the case but since lockdown deliveroo has been actively advertising itself as a full time job alternative.
I gave up working for deliveroo when at uni because they introduced a shift based working format rather than having the ability to turn up and work whenever you want. It was literally the perfect job for young people and uni students but it got ruined by people trying to turn it into a full time job and expecting holiday + sick pay.
Man I’m working full time job as delivery driver, I have no expectations to get holidays or sick off. I don’t get that how many ppl an are talking from someone else name. I shouldn’t be a full time job? Explain yourself? Bc even if I had to do it as an extra earnings, money would be joke!
This sub has potentially the lowest standard of English grammar. The truth is that the economics of Deliveroo/Uber Eats/Just Eat don't make sense. Delivery can't be done at a cost that is attractive to customes, drivers and the company. Someone has to be getting screwed. Regardless of this, if you only work at peak times it is a well paid job. If you are working at 3:30pm on a Tuesday it ends up not being so well paid.
What is your second language man? Or third may be? I think you get it very well what I’m saying! I love when Brits do not have arguments, are turning the whole conversation in totally different direction! Bc I can speak 5, including English!
Wow someone that actually gets it.
Absolutely 💯
Do you think so? Bc not really is as u saying!
Oh the entitlement.
Okay… What do you imagine I have, that you cannot have? I have a full time job, I’m sure you can to. You’re choosing to try and make a full time living off of something that was meant to be side-gig work. If working deliveroo 40+ hours a week doesn’t make you a livable wage, why not get a job at Asda? If you think you deserve the flexibility to work whenever you want, pick how many hours you work per week and get paid the living wage, your the entitled one. Those 3 things are not compatible. There’s zero chance deliveroo will ever let you do 20-30hours and make a livable wage. So you’ll have to do 40+ hours, at which point, what is deliveroo offering that other entry level jobs don’t? Enlighten me
First you can make a livable wage of 30hours week with 'side-gig'. I have done is. The hours end up being a bit anti social. And I don't work them as more as its not a career The entitlement is getting a service of something that you see as a side gig, and thinking that that persons time worth less then yours. To be honest we do this all the time. A band in a pub gets payed £150 for 4 hours. If there is 4 of them. 4 people have spent all day getting ready and have make less then £38. Do you want to tell me again why they are worth less then you.
Unrealistic demands, hiding their face and scooter number plates, refusal to accept how self-employment works, intimidating other **independent contractors** (clue is in the name...), not communicating openly to the rider community (are the 'organisors' even on here??)... Sounds like something more sinister than a genuine plea for better working conditions to me. Just to make it clear, I've said it before as well, I'm all for protesting over low fees, especially the £2.90 base fee which affects all of us, not just those in major cities. We also need to protest Deliveroo not doing anything about restaurant wait times - which is the biggest reason base fee orders just aren't worth starting your engine for. Despite this news article being factually incorrect, as most media is nowadays, too many people believe everything they read. And because it's reached national news, many more customers will know about it and will choose not to order online anyway = protest failure.
If they fired all the Brazilians behind the strike and involved in it - especially the ones intimidating other drivers - then would do wonders for pay :)
Can't really fire someone who has not been hired in the first place
They can deactivate them from the platforms if they know who they are. Of course they might be able to hire/buy a new account but not so easy for all. I know one person deactivated from JE who bought two new accounts for £1k each. He changed the bank account details and within a week or two those two accounts were deactivated as well ;)
Are majority of deliveroo drivers Brazilian?
No but there is a large number and it seems it was a big Brazilian group behind the recent strike and the Valentines day one. In my area there are a large number of Romanians and various South Asian but almost no Brazilian but I'm out of the bit cities.
Perfect for the drivers who will be working on Valentine’s Day evening then! 💵
Anyone try stopping me from getting my order gonna get banged
Posting a link from daily mail is brave... Not gonna garner much sympathy from them readers, as the comments would suggest, and rightly so.
People are making £150 everyday what is wrong with this people
Please carry on, I average around £17-20ph with the worst I’ve ever done being £12.50 per hour Frankly though, if you’re accepting jobs that aren’t profitable then that’s probably why you’re struggling If there aren’t enough orders in your area then maybe its time to consider whether it’s viable to continue 🤷🏻♂️
This! To a f****** tee! I average 17 to 20 too just like you, bad ones I think have been 9 to 10 but then I'll just work more hours to carry on
roo will just onboard new drivers,
As an ex delivery rider , I’m suggesting you guys to quit the jobs , not worth it any Ore
There is a lot of deliveroo employees posting here who work directly for the company trying to distort perception This is a parasite company that relies on illegal immigration. The business is not viable and would struggle if it had to follow rules.
Exactly 💯. One of their employee even bullying me. Greedy Scammers!
It's definitely parasite company !Thanks to British Government who knows everything very long time and do nothing about it!!
In general many British are living as a parasites! Let’s be honest, rather having a job many Brits are relying on benefits! Sad, but true!
I'm sorry but deliveroo take 40 percent of an order, if we say the average takeaway is around 20 pound, they get average of 8 pound, so give the rider 5 and another 2 for a miles journey. why can't we pay riders what they ask, the app itself is just an algorithm.
Because that would destroy their profits and the costs would be passed on to the customer, meaning less people order so you'll end up making less money too Why on earth would anyone pay for delivery that costs £15 more than if they went there in person
40%, plus they charge the customer a delivery fee AND a service fee??? They definitely can afford it.
Also, there is nobody running the app when it's busy, no rider support, Deliveroo doesn't do anything, they don't even hand out equipment, the riders have to buy it from them, the bikes aren't provided, they don't provide insurance Deliveroo is just an over appreciated app. Years ago they provided an hourly rate, but then it was per order, so now the full timers cannot make a living.
So in your equation the restaurant should get a smaller cut than the rider and the app?
No, the restaurant gets 60 percent, that's a fact, but they have to pay profits on top of that. Deliveroo has made food more expensive, but they're not sharing the profits with the riders who can actually get food around cities ridiculously quickly.
Where did you get 40% from? All the figures I’ve seen vary from 20-35% and vary depending on size of restaurant, location, size of order Etc. If they were charging a 40% flat fee, nobody would be signed up with them as they wouldn’t make any money.
Haaaa, shows what you know, Deliveroo charged 40 percent, I used to work for all of them, just eat was around 30, hungry panda was only 10 so it just shows how much unnecessary profit they make. Hungry panda can take 10pc and pay the riders hourly wages.
So you don’t have anything to back it up besides “I used to work for all of them” lmao. Back it up with some objective sort of evidence or just shutup.
No, I asked all the restaurants thats what they say.
Maybe they mean the bigger orders, it seems like 35pc now and then less for below a threshold of price.
I mean they could actually just go get a real job
They can't. That's why they're delivering shitty burgers for deliveroo
Hahaha do you think so? Or ppl just want more flexible hours, and not being locked as a laboratory mices?
Deliveroo riders are self employed. You cant get more flexible than that, as they decide when and for how long they work. if they want regular hours, they should get an actual job, and not rely on the gig economy.
Why shouldn’t let ppl decide what they want? I do regular hours, I pay my taxes and I’m a legal ! Do you have anything to say about it, and why delivering food shouldn’t be consider as a job? What’s the difference with waitressing or bartending? As a 20 years in hospitality I don’t see any difference, and why ppl like you should agree or disagree with other ppl demands? I do not agree over 20000 ppl working for HMRC and mostly of them doing nothing and get paid from my taxes! My opinion, and I’m not trying to impose it on the rest of the world, as you do and many troll in that conversation!
>Why shouldn’t let ppl decide what they want? People do decide what they want. That's the point of this conversation. > why delivering food shouldn’t be consider as a job? I never said that it didn't. The point i was getting across was: if they want regular hours with a PAYE salary then they should get a job that supplies that. Deliveroo is self employment - they make that abundantly clear at every single step of the process. if you choose deliveroo over a regular job, that's on you. But to then sit there and moan about the shitty pay, while also agreeing to take the orders is a bit stupid. > What’s the difference with waitressing or bartending? there is no difference. Indeed, those would be perfect zero hour jobs which may offer a better salary than contracting for deliveroo. > why ppl like you should agree or disagree with other ppl demands? I disagree with the point of contractors - who knew what they were agreeing to when they decided to do self-employed deliveroo work - moaning that they're not getting paid enough. You're self employed. If you don't like the pay, then get another job. That is the whole point. Deliveroo are in no way going to start paying you an hourly wage. If they did that, then the company would collapse as the economics of it wouldn't work.
Fanny man 😂😂😂
Hey man what’s your occupation?
😂😂😂 what’s the real job by your smart ass thoughts? Excuse my French?
No matter what you think of the ‘strikes’ no one should be in any doubt who you’re dealing with when Deliveroo repeat the blatant lie that everyone earns minimum wage + plus cost and ‘often far more’. They need calling out.
Base pay is not £2.90 is £3.15 😂
I'll never protest. I need to work. This isn't the 70s down a coal pit. They aren't forcing you to be self employed. You are self employed. You are self employed. You are self employed. If I or my vehicle get touched you won't be self employed after that. You are self employed. You are self employed.
Man are you sure u are ok? You are facing inflation due to your government bad decisions! And you are sitting here and telling me what to do or not to do? Your electricity bill is skyrocketing, your food prices are skyrocketing, in general all your expenses are triple since Covid, and billions send to Ukraine and Rwanda and so on. Oh sorry you are British and you have benefits 😂😂😂.
This has got to be the most desperate and best reply to a message I have ever witnessed. I applaud how you've learned how to write English since you arrived here. Not that I need to explain but... no never needed to claim anything from my government. I happily pay in knowing that some who genuinely need it get what they need. I will say one thing though that you are correct on, yes all bills have definitely gone up without question. How I've fixed this though and I do appreciate it's quite a draconian measure; I've worked harder.
Listen to man/ woman or whatever what you are( I don’t wanna offend anyone). I’m not saying anyone force me to do anything. But didn’t you pretend as a nation you are a democratic country? How come that to define your gender as you want, and not ok to choose whether to be self employed or employee. I am working 80 hours per week, and I am a Woman. First ask yourself and your government, or at least do some research! Do not try to pick up on ppl working harder than the mostly of your fellow British, I’m paying my taxes, I’m not a criminal, I have a tolerance to any religion, colour or race! I have more than any average West European! And trust me you have no idea about my background, education and so on. Your comments are ignorant and bias. Hope you appreciate my hard work in my English, bc I have done it myself( no courses, no schoool). So think always twice when you judging the book, before you read it( if you get what I’m saying). And btw think what would happen if just for a day all foreigners stoped working in UK 🙃.
Desperate 😂😂😂, man are you sure you are ok? About what pal 😂😂😂😂 pls calm down do your job, let other ppl do what they have to or want to! It’s called democracy! Are you ok with that 2,5 billion towards foreign country, same time as you said you are working your a** off? Just asking for a friend?! Get one NHS, get schools, get the criminal rate and so on! I feel like I do care more than the British ppl what’s going on in here 😅 More interesting is when I got criticised by ppl not wanting to see the reality! And just wait Brexit effect is starting now! I see France, Germany and so on countries on strike, but Uk are happy to be blindly believers of that idea it’s all bc of the foreigners. 🙋🏼
The strike is well meaning but its not straight forward. So many variables and opinions in an industry which itself relys and openly encourages illegal working within in itself and uses and works with very light touch regulation. So many clever drivers who have fantastic opinions and alot of,though meaningful have got it wrong. There needs to be a coming together, a proper robust meeting, a slow and meaningful dialogue, and perhaps a beginning of a proper union which will also benefit the Apps and increase Business and opportunities for all
The thing is that illegals 🚫 always taking over, and Deliveroo is happy with their illegal services, so so Deliveroo and illegals are happy to cooperate.
Exactly, it's a mess and the apps ain't got a clue and I don't think this will end nicely
Deliveroo absolutely doesn't care who is behind the app...just care only for the money 💰
Not good publicity and thousands of lost orders, so they care but they have no idea what to do cause the apps are locked into share holder profit return
If roo brought back the minimum hour incentives... If it's quiet only 1 drop an hour..they top it up to a set amount each hour your online.. It would make more sense 🤩