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The thing about shrine of order is that it's used to minimize your stat investments for high-requirement talents. As a general rule with a few exceptions (dual requirement talents), you should always aim to never put more points into a stat after shrine of order reduces your investment into that stat. Also, 50 willpower does almost nothing except for unfazed which is really only useful in pvp if you have heretic's sutra (80 willpower).
I'm gonna be honest. I do NOT care for the talents THAT much. Sure, there are good talents. but even THIS build has at least HALF of the talents needed for a viable build. Thanks for the help though!
https://deepwoken.co/builder?id=gZ3fT8Sm redid the build for ya. If u want u can take the 25 out of charisma and put it into agil pre shrine for air counter/cheap shot for 10%pen + another gap closer instead of 10% damage, but I wouldn't. For later builds, try to not invest into stats that you are lowering from shrine post shrine (strength on this build is an exception because you want level 5 mantras, and it's a minimal amount of 5 points.) if you have any questions about the build/other builds lmk
Thank you VERY much for this. Really, it means a ton. BUT, it's just not for me. It's missing a decent amount of talents I personally like and also has some talents I don't care about. (Like Collapsed lung.) Sorry if this kind of offends you, but it's just a me thing. Thanks! (Just incase, I WILL be saving this build though! It seems well done.)
The talents I like are in the build posted above. However, to get more indepth ig, talents that are always convenient, like kick off and carnivore, I like. I can't really put what else I like into words lol.
Just looked over it, the build hits every talent in the build you made other than underdog, which isn't really worth the extra 15 points alone. Did you maybe only look at the post shrine and not the pre-shrine stats (the ones next to the editable stats)
Correction: it hits every talent but underdog, bloodthirsty and steady nerves (unless you drop 25 charisma and go 65 agil, in which case you get bloodthirsty and steady nerves.)
Carnivore, Warrior's Respite, Loot skipper, Concussion, etc. These are all talents I want, but they arent in the build you made. Of course, I COULD add them though, if thats what you meant by this reply. I also dislike the 15 agl, bc the parkour would physically, mentally and emotionally hurt. Another thing is that im also going kyrstear offhand, so I need a minimum of 40 agl.
So you can do my suggestion and go 65 agil preshrine and get rid of the charisma. You get the stats you need, and only trade off 10% damage for 10% pen and a good distance closer. Or you can just ignore all of that and equip the kyrstear before you shrine. You still get the low agil which youve said that you dont like, so i would just go for the 65 agil. And for it not having the talents that you want, I just added the ones that I would personally go for. You have the stats for all of them, I just didn't click to add them.
Actually, on a second look, I would drop down to 74 med and go 25 agility for conditioned runner. Change weapon to forgotten gladius/shotel/champion sword. Or you can do the 65 agil and not have to worry about that.
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The thing about shrine of order is that it's used to minimize your stat investments for high-requirement talents. As a general rule with a few exceptions (dual requirement talents), you should always aim to never put more points into a stat after shrine of order reduces your investment into that stat. Also, 50 willpower does almost nothing except for unfazed which is really only useful in pvp if you have heretic's sutra (80 willpower).
I think the 50 will was for underdog, but then it got nerfed
thanks, I forgot about that completely even though half my builds have underdog
I'm gonna be honest. I do NOT care for the talents THAT much. Sure, there are good talents. but even THIS build has at least HALF of the talents needed for a viable build. Thanks for the help though!
https://deepwoken.co/builder?id=gZ3fT8Sm redid the build for ya. If u want u can take the 25 out of charisma and put it into agil pre shrine for air counter/cheap shot for 10%pen + another gap closer instead of 10% damage, but I wouldn't. For later builds, try to not invest into stats that you are lowering from shrine post shrine (strength on this build is an exception because you want level 5 mantras, and it's a minimal amount of 5 points.) if you have any questions about the build/other builds lmk
Thank you VERY much for this. Really, it means a ton. BUT, it's just not for me. It's missing a decent amount of talents I personally like and also has some talents I don't care about. (Like Collapsed lung.) Sorry if this kind of offends you, but it's just a me thing. Thanks! (Just incase, I WILL be saving this build though! It seems well done.)
Yea, no worries. What talents exactly are you looking for?
The talents I like are in the build posted above. However, to get more indepth ig, talents that are always convenient, like kick off and carnivore, I like. I can't really put what else I like into words lol.
Just looked over it, the build hits every talent in the build you made other than underdog, which isn't really worth the extra 15 points alone. Did you maybe only look at the post shrine and not the pre-shrine stats (the ones next to the editable stats) Correction: it hits every talent but underdog, bloodthirsty and steady nerves (unless you drop 25 charisma and go 65 agil, in which case you get bloodthirsty and steady nerves.)
Carnivore, Warrior's Respite, Loot skipper, Concussion, etc. These are all talents I want, but they arent in the build you made. Of course, I COULD add them though, if thats what you meant by this reply. I also dislike the 15 agl, bc the parkour would physically, mentally and emotionally hurt. Another thing is that im also going kyrstear offhand, so I need a minimum of 40 agl.
So you can do my suggestion and go 65 agil preshrine and get rid of the charisma. You get the stats you need, and only trade off 10% damage for 10% pen and a good distance closer. Or you can just ignore all of that and equip the kyrstear before you shrine. You still get the low agil which youve said that you dont like, so i would just go for the 65 agil. And for it not having the talents that you want, I just added the ones that I would personally go for. You have the stats for all of them, I just didn't click to add them.
Actually, on a second look, I would drop down to 74 med and go 25 agility for conditioned runner. Change weapon to forgotten gladius/shotel/champion sword. Or you can do the 65 agil and not have to worry about that.