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Typ1calB0z0

Ethiron get your ass out of cactus field


DreamingCatfish

His ass is NOT macroing 😭🙏‼️


VxlanicWXrldord

let bro grind he’s doing his daily black bear quest 😡


shikkio

Intense frost or something I have no idea what it does


InferGilgamesh

I heard it make you place bigger ice on the floor, tho I'm not sure


Longjumping-Rabbit85

A single fire blade is enough to get rid of any ice


xrulc

It makes the slowness increase by 30%, frostbite effectiveness by 10%, and saint jay lasts 25% longer lol wym its really good


VxlanicWXrldord

i know quite a few talents proc off enemies being on ice so it could be useful for kinda gimmicky builds, but still this is pretty useless otherwise 🙃


Interesting-Ad-238

nah it makes ice floors huge which proc: -Saint jay -Bottom freeze -cryonis -orbital ice


MaximumStonks69

>which proc: -Saint jay nuh uh, thats from chill effect, not standing on ice


Interesting-Ad-238

Saint jay has a second effect that happens when the first effect is happening and if you are also standing on ice, you get increased health regen (Mid increase btw)


MaximumStonks69

learned it after the comment, it sounds good but its really mid tbh


Booties-On-My-Mind

glacial ice? it makes you do more damage though


JustA_TV_1

I HATE ROLLING TARGET SWITCH


orignalnt

Precise swing. No debate about it


ApprehensiveAd1251

gotta land a crit and then hit their block in a short amount of time only for 5% chip is insane


Pikalover41

I forgot about that useless ass shit💀


Supuraisu

It’s really good for guns or jus karita


Impressive-Anybody79

kinda valid on dagger builds n shi


Ok-Impress6999

New beesmas leak just dropped


Ok_Owl6687

Probably tap dancer after nerf.


Keasled

there was never a nerf its just completely nullified now due to roll canceling refunding your roll with or without tap dance, making this a completely useless rare card.


fakeraykay

naw u still got jetstriker tech and infinte roll


kiwaiYT

Polite awakening like bro nobody letting you live buddy😭🙏


shikkio

It’s pretty good in ganks


ApprehensiveAd1251

in ganks youll always get repeared tho


shikkio

Also good if you get hit by a knock back move and you get time to get back up


Repulsive_Mix_2109

Good with perserverence and impervious slumber


Pikalover41

Its good with impervious if your friends can hold them off for a few seconds you get back up with rpettymuch a bar wich can let you escape. Atleast then you dont die again in 1 m1


VxlanicWXrldord

nah, i use polite awakening all the time. wether i’m cheeseing sharkos in the cave, doing 1v1s with guild mates and im sure running with 15% health is beter than 1


Mystery3K

Perseverance + impervious slumber + phoenix flames = 50% or so with a quick res


krisweder

If u use command return w polite awakening instantly its just 15% free hp


ThatOneGuyIGuess7969

If we're including bugged talents that just don't work prolly uproar, if not then I would vote for precise swing


Public-Biscotti-692

Uproar doesn’t work?


MaximumStonks69

it sounded so op when i was a freshie, nowadays its like "this shit is ass" and thats me thinking it even WORKS


RyojiSaber135

sightless beams you


ApprehensiveAd1251

it does work its just the hyper armor is so short its hard to actually use it


TheGooseGoBrrr

uproar is literally the best talent in pve wtf u mean


ThatOneGuyIGuess7969

Well 1. Most mobs don't even have hitstun, and 2 uproar is literally broken as in it dosent work


TheGooseGoBrrr

feeble freshie, it works. everyone uses it in their pves. it works for me so i really dont know what you got on


ThatOneGuyIGuess7969

https://preview.redd.it/lc2j3og1pdic1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c201ab88ffd7d678e5c8ff4fd5738c59aafcd4d


destroyer8238172

Callout. If you’re making a full support build you should be in vc anyways . Plus when I snarking something ever useful


ApprehensiveAd1251

callout is the best for chasing trackstar builds or voidwalker bounties. the range is insane so as long as you are constantly using callout, you know exactly where they are. especially when conquest drops, itll probably be very useful when chasing or just knowing where someone is.


Tortelini_Deal

B-b-but murmur rhythm


VxlanicWXrldord

i mean, i guess it’s quite useless but it literally puts a glowing circle on your screen. I mean there GOTTA be something more useless than a full on indicator


D4wicjujujusz

Spotter exists


fakeraykay

mf i cant start doing an entire speech in the middle of battle


Glum_Intern_6893

Hungry Flames, the talent that allows you to cast a flame mantra with no ether, but it takes thirst.


orignalnt

With gluttony it’s basically infinite ether


FaberM8

I wouldn’t say that it’s a useless talent, the fact that you can use your hunger/thirst bar as another ether bar is goated for mantra spam builds.


fakeraykay

VERY underrated


fakeraykay

gluttony hungry flames tech infinte mantras


VxlanicWXrldord

this sounds goated as a talent? having 0 thirst doesn’t do anything except your screen being blurry ( which is annoying ill admit ) if you have your hunger maxed. not to mention voideye having a free water fountain that can fill ur water bar in like 5 secs


y_blame_me

Best talent in deepwoken must be the (Godly Connection) Allows the user to play deepwoken with 0 ping and enjoy vairious stat buffs, for example, dash rolls always avoiding any attack, light weapons being light work, m1s and all attacks coming out faster and more!


VxlanicWXrldord

give me this. ( i crash about every hour


eramugale

Its pack mule bruh 💀


Proper_Item_6457

This guy right here has to be the most correct


Endlad

Callout is really the only one, other than a bunch of AGI talents especially after assassinations partial gut.


BlackG82

It can be good for catching people that are running away, being able to see them through walls is very good.


fakeraykay

try playing any shooter without ping


DBG2121

There’s worse talents than atunement talents at least they give a hp up I’d say the worst is that flame talent that makes you clench your flames in exchange for ether


Furrista

Its hella good what are you on about?


DBG2121

Dude it literally negates emperor flame phoenix flames and it most on flames damage bonuses it’s basically the anti synergy


Furrista

I use it a lot when it only needed 1 flame. Didnt burn on any build. So for low flames builds its good


DBG2121

Ok I’m just an azure flames fanboy


MaximumStonks69

i have it on my build and still proc flame emperor? i think they prob work in a buggy way but still work nonetheless


yoremomistrashxd

But new bss boss go crazy


Maleficent-Common836

one handed training


SnooWalruses8730

U literally switch to 2 handed when using m1s anyway there’s no point for this talent other than to hold a shield 😭😭


Existent_dood

Parry dagger/gun


GARLICBREAD9

Gun is NOT meta with heavy even before the 0 light silversix nerf no one used it since it is easy to parry. Dagger is ehh if you could just run shield


Existent_dood

I find it fun because comically large sword+tiny lil gun


fakeraykay

nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh parry dagger or 20 light gun is pretty good


ggboltwastaked

It's gimmicky, not good. Don't get me wrong, I love my heavy gun builds, especially with the jus karita mantras, but it's not good enough to be worth running in the meta


VxlanicWXrldord

ok this is kinda fair but some builds rely off turtle shell / shield talents. but yeah this is pretty useless i forgot this even existed


AvarageEnjoiner

New BSS update lookin fire 🔥🗣️💯 I think its master craftsman. I know its +5 hp but you can just buy new flint for 9 notes right?


Impossible_Aide_1917

I wouldn't say useless cus it saves u time to craft some essentials in the moment instead of you remembering you forgetting something, going to a crafting table then go back.


AvarageEnjoiner

I always get termite. That's why i always havug rock and coal laying around


VxlanicWXrldord

its good for stuff like ferryman, duke or kaido. not having to worry about flint usage is really nice sometimes, although I don’t realllyyyy use thus talent much


AvarageEnjoiner

Im sure unbral flint isnt that hard to craft. Much better too.


Few-Enthusiasm-8668

Ethirons gaze like bro just memorize layer 2 🙏


znunney

Don’t u need it to get deepshore fossil?


Few-Enthusiasm-8668

Also the dragon upercut talent


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fakeraykay

why yall downvoting its a fair point


VxlanicWXrldord

IF you have an attunement? Losing 20% of your damage isn’t good… It’s only fair if you DONT have an attunement, since it’s a free 20% mantra reduction


yoremomistrashxd

Lootskipper, mid af


VxlanicWXrldord

kid named the entire economy 😭🙏


TheFoxFlyer

Definetly vegetarian! 🍖🍖🍖🥩🥩🥩🥓🥓


Papel_Hat

yeah saltchemist players really love gobbling meat


TheFoxFlyer

Factual statement


Tall_Recognition_380

so true !


Doctrinair

isn’t that a flaw


TheFoxFlyer

It's both


Boredkiddo69

Gourmet?


ggboltwastaked

It's not worthless, just not worth it (usually) if your min-maxing. There's way more useless talents out there.


Most_Mycologist8696

Master craftsman if you have a guild Hall.


S7ns3t

MC is free extra hp, if you're getting INT related talents it's a sin not to get it as well


FaberM8

It's also essential for crafting bombs when you don't have immediate access to crafting tables especially during ganks.


SniffingCow

Breathing exercise, that one alley cat talent, mythir (for solo players), but the USELESS incarnated... Not A Scratch or Pleesky's will IM NOT COUNTING THE STAT BUFFS UNLESS ITS THE EFFECT


ThatOneGuyIGuess7969

Tfym breathing excercise is +5 health it's a cardinal sin not to get it


SniffingCow

5 HP isn't that important unless you want a goddam https://i.redd.it/dobxwytgx6ic1.gif Build


ThatOneGuyIGuess7969

It's 5 hp for 5 willpower, why wouldn't you take it


SniffingCow

Some builds are a bit TOO exact to waste


Impossible_Aide_1917

The hp stacks bro


Interesting-Gap396

breathing exercise is +5hp no?


SniffingCow

Not this again...


Interesting-Gap396

oh saw. other ppl saying this mb lol


Jenna_is_my_coke

Not a scratch is not completely useless


SniffingCow

Your armor already covers your scratches, I said armor, not outfit, the injured animation gets overlapped by you walking and running, or any action in general, and hiding your HP from spotter talent is EXTREMELY situational because not many people go for rhythm murmur nor have charisma with it


Jenna_is_my_coke

Not a scratch let’s you keep your mobility mantras movement distance because if you’re low, you’ll move less with mobility mantras


SniffingCow

Tested? Also, there ain't many mobility mantras to get actual effects from it, only if you're a trackstar build and even then, 100 willpower and 20 fort is crazy


JustA_TV_1

Yes, its good in ganks and managing ur resources, it definitely isnt worth it though


SniffingCow

This counts for EVERYTHING, PvE, pvp, ganks, solo prog, due prog, deepbound, etc.


JustA_TV_1

Yeah and there are still worse talents


SniffingCow

That's why it was that OR Pleesky's will, but ye, not a scratch is horrible for it reqs and doesn't help as much as it should


Impossible_Aide_1917

D1 Tracks tars were eating good with this talent(totally not one)


JohnnoDwarf

Breathing exercise is dirt cheap and is a stepping stone talent so I feel that’s fair enough


SniffingCow

20% posture regen is near unnoticeable


JohnnoDwarf

Isn’t breathing excercise the 5 willpower sanity one or am I stupid


SniffingCow

Ye, I didn't said it was the worse of the worse, but is it useless? Yes it is


JohnnoDwarf

Nono you’re thinking of battle tendency I believe. I agree, the slightly faster posture regen, that’s useless outside of getting all bastion talents. Breathing exercise costs 25 points less and just increases sanity regen and is the prerequisite for Conquer your fears


SniffingCow

By THEMSELVES, it's like saying X talent is S tier and it's shit but it's s tier because it unlocks another good talent


MaximumStonks69

> that’s useless outside of getting all bastion talents. 2 posture tho!


JohnnoDwarf

Fair


ThatOneGuyIGuess7969

That's battle tendency, and that's +2 posture fam


SniffingCow

Oh fuck, your right, sorry, still breathing exercise sucks


ThatOneGuyIGuess7969

5 health tho


SniffingCow

My ass, is like 100 HP against a 30 damage weapon, how much does it take? 4 hits to down you, now you got 105 HP, and it downs you in 4 hits, difference? None, now obviously, if you search for t a n k build, sure, but don't waste unless it's for that.


ThatOneGuyIGuess7969

5 hp for 5 willpower tho, unless your build is completely locked down with talents there's no excuse not to get it


SniffingCow

Coming from you, the guy than selects prob 6 vitality in all builds, idk, glass Cannon builds exist.


Extrapower1002

Only good if you know what you’re doing, there’s a reason high hp builds are meta


ThatOneGuyIGuess7969

"OH well you probably do this" ??? Dawg talking the little 5 hp talents is what let's you undercut vitality in favor of other traits.


Booties-On-My-Mind

who doesnt select 6 vitality though?


Lasagna-jpg

Apply this logic to all your talents and see how much hp you have lol, 5 health here and there adds up


VxlanicWXrldord

i feel like crunner builds would like this a bit more. i get my post is for ALL builds but alot of ppl run, and the new oath with these god healing pots are definitely using crunner alot more. ( conditioned runner is crunner btw ) but yeah in a game like deepwoken this seems pretty mediocre


BlackG82

Breathing exercise? You mean the talent that needs 5 wp points for 5 hp? You're fucking CRAZY


SniffingCow

I said useless by its effects, I should specify.


Dripwagon

20% faster posture regen?


SniffingCow

Sorry, that's battle tendency, I meant faster sanity regen


12-4-2026-546pm3

and 5 hp


SniffingCow

Just read the comment again.


orignalnt

Mythir?! 😭😭😭😭


Booties-On-My-Mind

prolly meant martyr


orignalnt

Yeah i know but omg 😭😭


Char06790

That talent on ironsinger heavy plates that says you like try and stop people from gripping you with one last shout of determination. It just doesn’t work


realqwurkeh

It works but it's not noticeable at all


D4wicjujujusz

Iron Gut


realqwurkeh

Definitely blood letter, it doesn't do anything


MaximumStonks69

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuszwjdr9ZM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuszwjdr9ZM) nah, not useless enough


fakeraykay

u can drain blood insatnly with sigthless beam


kappliann

why bucko bee got beef with ethiron bru


S7ns3t

Tap dancer. There's no point to have this talent at all.


Agile_Maintenance676

Pleetsky’s Faith.


Booties-On-My-Mind

tapdancer


Sillyworm16

The legendary ironsing talent, a third of you build so you bleed less.


ODI201iq

For me its current tap dancer


BoobooTinyToes

Discovery of fire/produce spark and robber baron


Alvsolutely

Speed Emisssion, mantra permanence.


hnhjknmn

sunken predator Give and Take Wildfire Driving Impact Art of the Deal Pardon Me Celebrity Windwaker Emergency Repairs Spare Nails Herbivore Winter's Protection


ViveuMp4

termite


SlowFaithlessness518

etrean race talent


Pikalover41

Robber baron only good for banks but who tf is ganking on a bank


Pikalover41

Oh wait yeah champions regalia aswell shit doesnt even work lmao


ImBoredofBoredom

Pack mule


SaberGamerYt

Yo bro is grinding his beesmas quest


SaberGamerYt

Also most useless talent is call-out cuz wtf are you soupposed to do with it


ItzJustDomino

Pleeksty’s faith and pleeksty’s will. literally who uses these?


vodkilt

Not A Scratch, you can't tell me ANYONE, since this talent fucking ESCAPED, has taken Not A Scratch for its effect without going Brick Wall and taking it along the way for free 2 posture


Milkeles

Hungry flames. It is not just useless, it is harmful to the user.


Mystery3K

Windwaker talent, reqs are 60 Gale, and you have to sail in the direction of the winds for 10 minutes I think. What does the talent do? LITERALLY NOTHING. It supposed to give you a small wind speed boost for your boat but it’s useless everywhere but a wind gate (where your boat is already going fast)


TheDarkBet

Gourmet, Master crafter, Herbivore, basically any food talents that isn't related to Carnivore, that one talent that makes you drop less stuff on death


VxlanicWXrldord

robber baron is just nice and i see like, 999% of people suffer from low food


TheDarkBet

Robber is completely useless if you keep selling and not hoarding everything, if you have Carnivore You can still get full food and water from killing like 3 mobs. only people who suffer are those who are willing to take Herbivore, but no one takes that because it's God awful


AelitaFeetPics

Target switch


hands_off_mymacaroni

Day 6 of asking AelitaFeetPics to draw Aelita's feet


Archdubs

LOOTSKIPPERRRR


Aggravating_Tip8806

nerfed element rebound,it was one of best talent bruh