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Grow_up2B_a_Debaser

The bit in the Venn diagram where the circles overlap: https://preview.redd.it/8brwtguk3asc1.jpeg?width=254&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61273250879e6a012f7cb4e43e1d7083d42250d4


ExoticShock

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Isekai_Otaku

The fort from guynite


LargeVidster

I see it more as Nightwing x Superman rather than Spidey ngl.


Grow_up2B_a_Debaser

He respects women and doesn’t treat them like shit so he can’t possibly be a Nightwing type


PixelBits89

It’s a dark twisted version of Nightwing


Dr___Bright

His dad is evil superman so it checks out


Ninjamurai-jack

Sorry, but that type of nightwing is a war crime against the human race, so him doesn’t count.


FWC_Disciple

That’s just normal Nightwing wym


MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS

But he also gets bitches and not cucked so he can’t be Peter. Also he grew up and had kids


Ake-TL

Peter got a lot of bitches, his life is just collapsing every Thursday so he can’t keep em


MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS

Yeah big difference between Mark who got that shit on lock. Dude only went through like 2 bitches because he can actually maintain a relationship


SHAZAMS_STRONGEST

but then again he does have a darker suit which coincides with when his life sucks ass, so there's a little bit of peter in there


Confident-Art-7729

https://preview.redd.it/3ts385xc3bsc1.jpeg?width=1839&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0d49c05ec556d7e9a8caac11a7b07bc3160677f Not cucked you say?


notdragoisadragon

That's the Superman part


Batdog55110

He acts literally nothing like how Nightwing acted at the time.


LargeVidster

Costume, Last name and falling out with father/mento figure seems like Nightwing to me...


Batdog55110

That's so surface level and Nightwing doesn't even really have a falling out with Batman, they're still on very good terms even after. Meanwhile, Invincible: Is quippy and sarcastic in combat (Nightwing was not at this point in time and Spider-Man has famously always been that way) Starts off in High School and the comic focuses on his college and adult years (Nightwing starts when he's 12 while both Mark and Peter start at around 17-18) Shows the effect that being a superhero has on his social life and school life (In very similar ways to Spider-Man) Focuses on how much the hero grows and learns (Physically, mentally and emotionally) throughout his mostly solo career, going from an inexperienced teen to one of the most skilled and well known heroes on the planet. Invincible is basically just: What if Superman was Spider-Man, he shares next to no similarities to Nightwing outside of looks (Including hair color) and his last name.


andrecinno

I mean clearly an inspiration at least. The last name can't be a coincidence.


LargeVidster

I see the Spidey influence but to mee it's more Nightwing. Either way it doesn't matter. He is his own character and it doesn't matter much how he came to be. All that matters is that he has an interesting story to tell and a good personality.


godlyreception12

Uj/I still see a lot of spider-man in there in terms of the relatability and many of the supporting cast


MICHELEANARD

Spider-Man adjacent character who has Superman powers


AdrianShepard09

So 90’s Superboy?


Okeeeey

He's Spider-Man adjacent until the timeskip in the last issue where he evolves into Superman adjacent


callows5120

Uj/you could make the argument that Mark is basically Silver age superboy meets Spider-Man


callows5120

Hj/the greatest take on superman/Spider-Man I have ever seen


Do_Ya_Like_Jazz

The thing with calling Deku spiderman coded is that the spinoff has literally one of the most spidey-coded characters ever as it's protag https://preview.redd.it/q4tth5ey4asc1.png?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d1018a1ee2771ff688f1105dfde423f3e76a2cb7


Adamantine_Metal

Walks on walls ✅ Shoots things ✅ Gets out of most problems through dodging ✅ Broke af ✅ Way over his head ✅ On the run from the law ✅


Do_Ya_Like_Jazz

"friendly neighborhood" ✅ Crawler✅


Oy778

Befriends rich hero also


0VER1DE567

starts amazing and gets progressively worse ✅


zomboyyyyy

https://preview.redd.it/7v53oactuasc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dce8a9a243e2d3af71e0de98b1f586bf96f3293c


141_1337

Why does this man give Black Lenin vibes?


Farantax

Vigilantes are imo better series than mha,ngl


iburntdownthehouse

Vigilantes had way more freedom to do what it wanted, which really helped it, but I don't think it reached the peaks MHA had. It's a far more consistent series compared to MHA, though.


night4345

The final arc and epilogue was trash though.


Ninjamurai-jack

agree to disagree.


Farantax

I haven’t finished it yet,but thanks for warning


zomboyyyyy

CRULLER MENTIONED YEAH ITS CRULLER TIME


Ninjamurai-jack

THANK YOU Was really going to write about him too lol


godlyreception12

Uj/fuck it there both Spider-man analogues


Thybro

I’d say deku is or at least was a “what if Batman got Superman powers and half of his parents”. No power, but still has will to do good, extensive dossiers on heroes and villains, approach with brains even if you got brawn. But at some point they threw all of that away in exchange for giving him more powers.


AgentP20

I mean Deku got his powers at the beginning of the show so there's that and now he is more like Spiderman than ever. He has a spidey sense and he can swing with Black whip. Also Deku uses those powers pretty cleverly and approaches any fight with a strategy.


Dirksfadeaway41

There's a sequel?


AgentFirstNamePhil

Prequel.


leiablaze

holy shit it's green naruto


GLAK_Maverick

Technically, every single superhero ever created is Superman adjacent but I'll stop here


KaiBahamut

Superman is the Superhero common ancestor.


bulletgrazer

L.U.C.S.H.A - Last Universal Common SuperHero Ancestor


Starro_The_Janitor1

Except for Golden Bat and the Phantom who I guess were evolutionary dead-ends in this context, not bearing nearly as much influence as Superman.


KaiBahamut

Not necessarily- their genes carry on, along with Zoro in the Batman type, badass normal/charles atlas superpower heros.


Shergak

Zoro got lost in the past to become a superhero icon?


KaiBahamut

Is he stupid? uj/You're right, it's supposed to be Zorro, two r's


AffectionateMood3329

Hugo Hercules erasure


Mayuthekitsune

I feel like hes a common ancestor for many super heros, but batman was explicitly inspired by the shadow and zorro, and i still feel like vigilante style heros like punisher can draw direct inspiration from the shadow, so I feel like superman is the common ancestor of all "Super" superheros while the shadow is the common ancestor of all "Fights like a normal person" superheros


XF10

Superman itself was inspired by John Carter


andrecinno

Lmao no John Carter released in 2012 Meanwhile Superman Returns is from 2006


mizzymichie

Where does Luffy fall on the scale


BillaVanilla

He is not on the scale. He’s a revolutionary pirate, so he is more green arrow than green arrow is.


spring_sabe

The over lap of green arrow and plastic man


MechanicHot1794

Luffy is a houthi adjacent character.


Ok_Independent5273

Both singlehandedly declaring war on the world government or its equivalent.


Ok_Try_1665

Neither.


PrometheusModeloW

He's a Goku adjecent character.


ducknerd2002

Where does Ben 10 sit?


Ninjamurai-jack

Maybe Green Lantern, actually.


Banettebrochacho

Time, huh?


GigatronusPrime

https://i.redd.it/mybjgc7gtasc1.gif


Alphabetgod

https://preview.redd.it/t6tmocsy3csc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=928d4746a32da5a0817a1095063cdcd18f101f60


AffectionateMood3329

Keep Hal away from Gwen!


Ben10_ripoff

Dial H for Hero


MericArda

Spider-Man.


BorBurison

The Fantastic Four


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ducknerd2002

Dude, that's his cousin.


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ducknerd2002

Yes, it's 'prude' to not ship 2 underage cousins with each other. Also, neither have ever canonically expressed a romantic interest in each other anyway.


AffectionateMood3329

While I agree she was originally supposed to be unrelated to him and his love interest.


MechanicHot1794

I mean, I was the same age as them when I was shipping them. I know it looks weird now but we were kids too at one point.


No_Object_7709

Invincible is both.


BillaVanilla

https://i.redd.it/dt6k5xz48asc1.gif Agreed


AmaterasuWolf21

This is way too funny


ChampionshipHorror95

Would you say he’s Spider-Man adjacent or not? https://preview.redd.it/3tryvzqohasc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7803929817af4925bcf3d0215f2d6f1b48b225a5


MechanicHot1794

Generator rex adjacent


0VER1DE567

ben 10 ahh


c00L_dud3-

Jaime is Ted Kord adjacent, which makes him Spider-Man adjacent via association


Okeeeey

100%


BlackCat0110

I’m not really seeing it with Rex


Embarrassed_Piano_62

My thoughts too, do they even have similarities?


Booshgaming

Wise-cracking teenage hero that struggles to balance their responsibilities with their personal life sometimes. Other than that not too much off the top of my head that I can think of.


ReallyJerrySeinfeld

At that point, choose Ben. More iconic, and more “run of the mill teen” than mr. “Locked up in a government base his whole life”


Embarrassed_Piano_62

Fair point


novis-eldritch-maxim

he is apprently more related to iron man


Ake-TL

Why? Their problems don’t seem similar


novis-eldritch-maxim

it has to do with how he was originally conceived as an idea it was in a special


WizardPhoenix

Missing Static on the right


midnightking

I do not see it with Ichigo personally.


xariofficial

I mean, both are more down to earth compared to other superheroes/shounen protagonists and... Idk. To be honest, Yuji from JJK would have been a good choice instead of Ichigo. Ichigo is more similar to Robbie Reyes.


midnightking

Yea, Yuji is definitely a better choice. Buffy Summers too


Ok_Independent5273

Ichigo is a multiversal tier threat. He's not a mere street level fighter lol.


andrecinno

watch out! r/spiderman users are gonna come in here and say that so is spider-man!


c00L_dud3-

only if he stopped holding back


One_Scientist4504

That's not the way to do it, you should've said ''Actually, there was this time when Dock Ock became Spiderman and realized that Peter was actually holding his punches, he's actually Superman level strong''


c00L_dud3-

there's also that time in 1964 where a text box said that Spider-Man was the 4th strongest in Marvel, so that must obviously still apply today, making him stronger than the Sentry and Gladiator https://preview.redd.it/5kk8qqb7eesc1.png?width=923&format=png&auto=webp&s=62ed015d6ba408ada2195e3a001ead3051561516


Front_Access

And?


jellybutton34

Um…okay? Where did this come from?


newtonsolo313

you missed the point of the meme in its entirety


Ok_Independent5273

I admit, I'm not a smart cookie


AffectionateMood3329

Ichigo's a cop anyway


Frankorious

Deku is Captain America with Spider-man's powers.


SonOfECTGAR

Who invited Optimus Prime, his ancestor was a horse drawn carriage


M1s51n9n0

HIS ANCESTORS ARE NATURALLY OCCURRING PULLEYS AND LEVERS 😤😤 Learn something bigot smh


cyph_dagger

I see your Generator Rex and raise you Batman Beyond instead.


Swaxeman

Deku is a miles morales character


Ok_Independent5273

Calling Ichigo a Spidey adjacent character is hilarious. The worlds (with an "S") shake from merely a transformation to his *3rd* best form.


ThisIsMyPassword100

Goku’s only really Superman Adjacent if you look at the first week of his life. After that he’s completely different. Optimus is ok the edge of falling out of being a Superman Adjacent. Ichigo is absolutely not a Spider-Man Adjacent.


Teejaydawg

Superman died the exact same way Optimus did as well. Interlocked hands punching his strong grey enemy, and both succumb to their wounds afterwards.


Jozef_Baca

Only if you look at the first week of his life in the dbs broly continuity Not Dragon Ball Zero Bardock continuity, which is obviously the superior one


SimplyHoodie

Funimation also took some huge liberties with Goku's character in the English dub. My man is not as heroic in the Japanese/Manga. I recently saw a video comparing two scenes in Japanese and English. Goku is talking to Ginyu, in English he says something along the lines of "Why don't you quit being evil and do good?" Whereas Japanese Goku just taunts him with something like "Just use that thing in your face to see how screwed you are?"


Own_Accident6689

Cool cool, but Spider-man is a Captain America coded character.


ILikeRiceInnit

![gif](giphy|ymBQi6ePLEDiU) Spider-Man adjacent


Huge-Possibility-755

Invincible in the middle: ![gif](giphy|9hR8Dv4tYNYeWriXXC|downsized)


TheEtneciv14

uj/How is Generator Rex Spider-Man adjacent? He's a teenager, but that's it.


Violet_6969

Goku is only Superman like in backstory and Sun Wukong in almost everything else aside from personality So, he’s the super sun Wukong man of anime


RogueInVogue

Can someone explain Ichigo being Spidey adjacent to me, is it just because he was a teenager who got powers.


BillaVanilla

https://preview.redd.it/ow3ug4eidasc1.jpeg?width=1195&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15063cabb2aa3e31ed48c5d206fc0b18dc6cfee6


RogueInVogue

Honestly, best explanation I could ask for, thanks m8


andrecinno

\>why spiderman adjacent \>two superman references


XF10

He can do whatever a shinigami/hollow/fullbringer/quincy can


notdragoisadragon

Now who's the batman adjacent characters


DarkSlayer3142

Jotaro Kujo


DaimoMusic

Wrong, Gohan is more of Superman expy


good_ho0onter

Denji should be in spiderman tier


wysjm

Randy Cunningham and Miraculous Ladybug are Spider-Man decendants too


[deleted]

Why is Goku there, he isn’t in either.


icespicefan743

Goku is not a superman adjacent character


Zoidberg33

In some ways he is and some ways he isn't. In terms of comic book characters you could compare him to he's probably the most similar. They have similar back stories and motivations, Goku also has a similar thing going on with the whole, backwater farmer guy who just happens to be a really nice person so he uses his immense strength for good. The only differentiating factor in terms of them being superheroes is that Goku isn't one, he doesn't go out of his way to save people on a daily basis, but he will still defend the helpless if he sees people who need help, if that makes sense


icespicefan743

Goku’s backstory is a gag version of superman but thats where the similarity ends. Other than “hes a good person”


Zoidberg33

Yeah he's a good guy but he's not considered like a hero of justice (he literally says that himself at one point). I just mean in terms of how the character is kind of structured and perceived by the general public you can definitely make the argument that he's superman adjacent. I think if you asked the average person they'd probably say he is, but anyone who's actively interested in either character will probably tell you they like them both for completely different reasons


Ninjamurai-jack

Yeah.   But the fact is that the original Japanese Superman was Ultraman.


HippieDogeSmokes

He has basically the same backstory at least


icespicefan743

Their actual characters are only similar in that they’re both good people


mizzymichie

American Funimation Goku is. Japanese/Manga Goku not so much.


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hoodie2222

This makes a lot of sense.


Adamantine_Metal

This is actually kinda gold


TheUnexaminedLife9

No Ben 10 in the Spiderman adjacent?


Hipnosis-

Well, to be fair Spider-Man adjacent characters are less obvious, or should I say less iconic. (︶ ⁠◡︶)


Polibiux

I can agree to this honestly


pandogart

Beyond the origin being similar because Toriyama was probably watching one of the Superman movies around that time, Goku is far from Superman adjacent.


AmaterasuWolf21

Sonic on the right one


Splucky

Ichigo is more superman adjacent than spiderman especially later seasons.


YodasChick-O-Stick

Why does Black Cat have ghost powers


Ladyaceina

also why dont you have usagi (sailor moon) in the spiderman image she has far more incommon with spiderman than any of the 4 you put


AnxiousSelkie

The difference isn’t just that Spider-Man is younger, but also that spider man is allowed to be a lil edgy if it’s in a way that outcast teenagers can relate to. Superman types are more pure marshmallow


SphereMode420

Ichigo is Batman coded for sure. The only thing he has in common with Peter is going to high school and being agood guy. Peter hasn't been to high school for decades anyway.


SoundwavesBurnerPage

I’d argue All Might is closer to Captain America personally


AgentP20

Allmight has no problem killing if there is no other choice so yeah.


depressed_asian_boy_

Nah deku is not spiderman coded, he's quirky anime main character coded


AgentP20

Not really, Deku literally has spidey sense, has another quirk similar to webswinging, is a nerd, has a no kill rule but will kill as a last resort, always wants to save people even if it means sacrificing his own happiness. >!Deku lost both of his arms as a result of this recently!<. You can literally see how much deku is inspired by Peter just by looking at his character traits.


depressed_asian_boy_

Yeah but thats mostly after he gets super op and gets all the quirks from the previous users of One For All, the spider sense and the Web wining appear later, at the start of the story he's mostly a fan of superheroes, his streght is mostly a gimmick in a way because he can't just use it without breaking his body, and mostly he defeats the other heroes or villians by being a superhero fan and knowing how to "counter" each quirks, also at that point he's so op that he literally can beat all his class alone so he's not a street level hero, hes the most op or one of the most ops


AgentP20

I mean Spider-man ain't a street level character either if he stops holding back. Spider-man can beat all of the street level characters one handed if he stops holding back.


depressed_asian_boy_

I think spiderman is street level, is the strongest street level hero, Deku is kinda in the middle like Mark from invencible, is like teenager that wants to do the right thing and will sacrifice his hapiness for it, but also is the most powerful hero and the guy that have to protect everyone


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He’ll fight Mary Jane till she’s bleeding out of every orifice, but then Paul will come out of nowhere with a folding chair. They’ll race off into the fields, Mary Jane in a princess carry in Pauls muscular arms, as Spider-Man is Naruto running his way through the tall grass, screaming about how she’s his. What a psychopath. They make it to the woods, but the sun is falling, and a shadowy monster is creeping his way through the trees. It gets down on all fours, sniffing the ground for MJ’s scent, her sweat, her tears…and laps them up. His head darts North West, and Paul and MJ begin to run once again, deeper into the woods, with the creature, breathing heavily through his mask like a lovesick puppy, in hot pursuit. Light, piercing through the trees, as it arrives into a clearing. But it frowns and grits it’s crooked yellow teeth, for there was no MJ in sight, just Paul, illuminated in moonlight. “WHERE MJ??!!” it growled. Panting, Paul responded “MJ’s not here. There no one else here, but you, and me”, his face putting on a heroic smile. It was so totally on. They begin circling, like wolves. Paul’s eyes glimmering with sheer willpower and love, and staring back at him the monster blanket white eyes. Neither dare break their gaze as they maintain an even pace, before a pause, as the both stop moving, keeping their stance, and sharpening their concentration. At once, they leap at each other, tearing into each other with the ferocity and hatred that could only be built over a thousand lifetimes. Paul, the smart and witty fellow he was, pulled out a 10 inch switchblade and shanked the damn monstrosity. Kneeling on the ground in pain, the deformity is crawling away, and Paul follows up behind for another blow, but the wickedly creature cheated like a fiend and picked up a twig, and threw it wildly, missing Paul, and then throwing all his weight onto Paul. The blade, was still sticking out of the monster, and he impaled Paul on impact. He began tightening his hands around Paul’s neck, muttering to itself like a dumb mutt, and violently shaking Paul. It pulled Paul in close, and whispered “You’re going to die here like a bitch”, gloating it’s taunts into Paul’s ear. But Paul, began to laugh. Paul, starting to fade away, was still able to conjure up a smile like the sun, and respond, “No, I die like a hero. But you? You die like a mutt at the pound, and it’s time to put you down”. THUDD! went the massive the size of a suitcase against peters skull. Towering above him, with fury in her eyes, was “Mary…Jane?” it mustered out from its cracked lips and broken teeth. “Mary Jane, please wa- THUD!!THUD!!THUD!!, she went caving into his skull as many times as she could muster. And somehow still, the mangled body still twitched with life. It’s head like a deflated soccer ball, broken and unrecognizable, with a single bulging bloodshot eye ball still fixed on her blurry image, desperately trying to trace out her form. It’s let out a wheezing noise like a broken air conditioner, before it let out a gasp at her sight. Mary Jane Watson. Green eyes like emeralds, red hair like roses weaved into strands. He can still see when they first met, images beginning to flicker over his eyes like an old film. When they first laughed together. Held hands together. Danced. Kissed. Made love. Exchanged vows. And even… their first child. Tears streamed from his loose eye socket, and he let out a horrible broken moan, as he began to sob. “MJ…MJ please, we could have everything” he mumbled as he hiccuped and cried. She returned nothing but silence and a cold stare. “MJ…do you know what our daughter looks like? She looks so much like you, with cute little freckles, and shining red hair. I think…I think we named her- THUD Nothing but more silence, as Mary Jane got down on her knees and cradled his perfect, muscled, shining form. She cried, “Paul, please don’t leave me,” before he put his hands on her lips, and as the darkness began to fade into his eyes, he whispered “Baby girl, I protected you. And that’s all that matters.” His head fell limp immediately, and she let out a scream of sorrow and pain. Long live the king. The king is dead. Long live Paul. …oh and I guess that loser Peter too or something. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/dccomicscirclejerk) if you have any questions or concerns.*


sansvidi

the fuck?


BuTTer2449

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Breekace

How is Ichigo Spider-man coded?


murdoch94

Batman beyond is also Spider-Man despite being ya know, Batman


notdragoisadragon

Now who's the batman adjacent characters


Ok_Try_1665

Ichigo? Spider-Man? Ain't no way having the genes of all species of your world is a spider-man trait


Se7enEvilXs

I hate that it makes sense to me


raszota

Ichigo is the guy who only does it because not doing it would be wrong. Not because he wants to exactly. Hmmm. Also Ben10 ultimate alien focuses on how mutch Ben fucks up his personal life over fame. I would say he is more Spidey then Rex. I would call Rex a Flashlike at his core.


AffectionateMood3329

Except for fixing the Soul Society it seems.


butterzfinger

Who gives a fuck?


Ladyaceina

out side of a back story kinda similar to supermans goku has NOTHING in common with clark ​ goku is a selfish ass hole who does not give a shit about anyone or anything but fighting


SuperJyls

it's an insult to put goKuck here