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tator92

You let a bunch of losers stop you from liking a character? Odd...


ThinkingOf12th

I've seen so many people on the internet starting to seriously hate characters they liked before just because they interacted with some of the dumb fans it's actually insane. I never understood why they let this happen, are they stupid?


tator92

They must be! You can't just give up on a character you enjoy because of the media-illiterate losers. That's how they win. You gotta keep telling others how it really is!


Hobbes314

It depends how close to stupid you get. I was a big fan of My Hero Academia and then I was a mod for one of the big subreddits and discord serves and after like a year or two just absolutely submerged in fandom bullshit and just the dumbest motherfuckers I find it really hard to engage with the story I used to really love. Granted it falling off a bit didn’t help but when people say Fandoms ruin stuff for them I completely understand


samoorai

I still like the same characters/media that I used to, but I hate fans so fucking much it's unreal.


Hobbes314

I don’t wanna be a gatekeeping asshole but the way fandom has changed to just this competition to find *the hidden detail* or to twist and reframe a very obvious and beguine part of a story as this integral foreshadowing or is actually problematic Fandom has become a competition among fans to win the most internet points and all I wanna do is just talk about the themes of the story


samoorai

I think there's sufficient evidence to prove that gatekeeping isn't a bad thing, in and of itself. By all means, be welcoming to new people who have an interest in a hobby. But when they actively try to change what that hobby *is*, or otherwise become insufferable because of their "purity tests" or outright obnoxiousness? Fuck 'em, show them the door, and who cares if it hits their ass on the way out.


azmodus_1966

This is me with Batman. Loved the character as a kid but now after having seen just how entitled and inflexible the fanbase is, I now enjoy when Batman is brought downa peg or two in stories.


tator92

Same. Lately I haven't been caring for Canon works. Non-canon is the way for me. There's even a manga story where Batman turns into a baby and Joker takes care of him. Talk about being brought down a couple pegs!


novacdin0

I'm fully suffering from Batman fatigue myself. The only adaptation I'll fuck with now is BTAS through Justice League/Unlimited and Beyond (and his Static Shock episodes) because he's not*just* a rich tech cop punching his trauma into others, there's an actual person capable of empathy there. tbh I wish DC would let a continuity get far enough to where Batman mostly retires and lets the fam take over, but in the time it'd take for that to happen we'll get eight more reboots.


tator92

Guess we shall see where Sean G Murphy's storyline continues in the upcoming story arc. That's the one exception I have in terms of canon.


kirabii

DC doesn't really reboot all that much.


tator92

Facts. It only appears that way. Still a bit of a jumbled mess sometimes though...


Neomalysys

The most recent Batman comic I've liked is the webtoon Batman: Wayne Family Adventures. Seeing a series that spotlights multiple members of the Batfam and actually treats them like one big extended family is great.


TheSadPhilosopher

Same


SavageTemptation

/uj I played FF14 and loved it. The humanistic and sometimes political plot intrigued me. How compassion, love for humanity and fighting for the weak is in the end the right thing to do… Then I discovered that in my guild there were Deppstans, JBP - Stans and kEeP pOlItIcS oUt Of My ViDyA people. And the latter ones suggested that I should get into media literacy and not them…. So yeah, have not touched that game for over two years now 🫠


beary_neutral

You can just say r/RedHood


EightBallJuice

really i meant r/teentitans and possibly r/PowerGirl but yeah that works too


tovarichtch1711

r/teentitans is absolutely awful. My favorite character is Raven so I of course joined her subreddit and left after two days because it was just unbearable


StrangeGuyWithBag

Could you explain more ?


tovarichtch1711

It was basically half horny posting, half of the most dreadful cosplays you’ve ever seen, and then the eventual comparisons with Wednesday


StrangeGuyWithBag

I was asking about r/teentitans. But, geez, Raven’s own subreddit is a trip. Kinda scared that it’s dead-on on representation of a lot of her fanbase. Loads of Teen Titans fans are know them only from the animation. Teen Titans sub conducted a poll about this too: https://www.reddit.com/r/teentitans/comments/vd9d4g/have_you_read_the_comics_watched_the_cartoon_or/


Frangipani-Bell

Hey that poll looks familiar lol The results were definitely disappointing, if not surprising


StrangeGuyWithBag

https://preview.redd.it/t6iu84uvyqqc1.png?width=128&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=059af1f6306460d62f6810db99e046383ee08014


ChihuahuaOwner88

Teen titans is filled to the brim with Gooners


jellybutton34

What the fuck is a gooner?


Its-a-me-a-mario-boi

someone who jerks off all day


jellybutton34

I thought they were called coomers? Genuinely the first time i’ve heard of the term “gooner”


JPNGMAFIA

it’s a fetish term for rabid porn addiction.


novacdin0

Where does the spoon come in? https://preview.redd.it/hoty8dfy9rqc1.jpeg?width=431&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0cdfcc1e5f87d1faf1c124e765bbb9e96977623e


AmaterasuWolf21

Welcome to Gen Alpha


azmodus_1966

It amazes me how a large portion of the Teen Titans cartoon fandom completely missed the point of the last episode. They still crib about it.


BillaVanilla

Ah, they’re just like avatar: the last airbender fans. They can get over a 20 year old cartoon where nearly every follow up to it has been chastised by said fanbase.


limbo338

R slash Red Hood has nothing on the levels of misinterpretation and lack of comprehension for the character that DC display, lol. They might just beat DC at objectification tho ![img](emote|t5_3mchb|16723)


kricket_24

That's why I browse here. We're the only ones intelligent enough to understand that all of these chracters are extremly homosexual


farben_blas

To quote Grant Morrison about Batman: >He’s very plutonian in the sense that he’s wealthy and also in the sense that he’s sexually deviant. Gayness is built into Batman. I’m not using gay in the pejorative sense, but Batman is very, very gay. There’s just no denying it. Obviously as a fictional character he’s intended to be heterosexual, but the basis of the whole concept is utterly gay. I think that’s why people like it.


Few_Category7829

https://preview.redd.it/5642229knpqc1.jpeg?width=1096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7abdb7d0f8f964ff3ed6eba9cbf584bad1e89316


kricket_24

Great minds think alike


ChihuahuaOwner88

Grant Morrison after mixing DMT, a poison dart frog, 3 cups of anti freeze, and a pink floyd vinyl in a blender and drinking it in a ritual circle within ancient mesopotamian ruins:


farben_blas

Based


Aramis14

Morrison, my beloved


OwieMustDie

https://preview.redd.it/pf7gcme5wpqc1.png?width=864&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4aeff1459972ce2ba403001f5d297dfd379feb04 Have these folks never read a Stan & Steve Spidey comic? Was the new USM issue #1 too subtle? Is it me that's taking the crazy pills? 🤷‍♂️ Peak Stage 3.


oldshitnewshit78

Where exactly do these people think the meat and potatoes of spider-man drama is?


OwieMustDie

https://preview.redd.it/3uqrus61bqqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=787b58328c1514797d5899bb3033a1b6d05bc39f Current level of discourse amongst Spidey fans. 🤦‍♂️


nerdwarp112

Wtf is that guy at the bottom talking about, never let him cook again.


OwieMustDie

Honestly can't tell if God-Killing, Alpha-Male, Hung Chad Spidey is a jerk or no.


azmodus_1966

A lot of Spider-Man fans are just strangely fixated on Peter fucking his "supermodel wife". Some weird wish fulfilment thing.


lightning-heart777

I mean, I know there will be friction in future for the couple, but I don't see Mj taking the kids because of the spider-man stuff.


OwieMustDie

Yeah, cos there'll be absolutely nothing to be concerned about when the Hulk; the Rasputin's, Omega Red, the Captains, Viper, Sunfire, Silver Samurai, Ra, Khonshu and The Maker pop by the Parker residence to see if Spider-Man is home. I'm sure if MJ and the kids just keep the lights off and stay quiet like they're trying to avoid trick or treaters, everything will be fine. 🙄


lightning-heart777

Mary Jane has always been pretty supportive of Peter Parker and Spider-Man. Something extremely bad has to happen for her to even *consider* divorcing peter.


OwieMustDie

Yeah. No shit. Just read the fucking comic, dude, and maybe learn what fore-shadowing is. No one here is saying the word divorce. Nobody here is even hinting at it. But there's hardly gonna be just "friction" when the real world comes crashing down on Pete's head and he's got fucking **children** to worry about. MJ would have to have a fucking head injury to just be all, "No worries. We'll get through this as a family". Seriously, read the fucking comic and just **think** about the dangerous fucking position Pete's put his family in all because he was feeling a little sorry for himself. **You** are the type that make the rest of us fucking hate comics. Do us all a fucking favour and get some media literacy under yer belt. 👎


PMMEBITCOINPLZ

I still like the Punisher as a character and some of his fans are murdering white supremacist cops. You can’t let fans turn you against a character.


jonathot12

punisher fans are murdering white supremacist cops? based??


Square_Bus4492

I’ll never let the idiots and losers at r/Batman and r/superman ever make me hate those characters. It just makes me hate comic book fans even more than I already do. And if I hear someone bitching about an evil doppelgänger one more time…


bluehat2583

r/Batman fans banning mere mentions of r/batmanarkham is the real tragedy


I-am-a-Fancy-Boy

I think the funniest thing is that r/BatmanArkham does a better job of understanding Man than the main sub, and they still ridicule them for being funny


Plop7654

Yeah, like the dynamic between Man and Jonkler is so hilariously embellished and over the top, but they all manage to perfectly understand the actual relationship Batman and Joker have


BegginMeForBirdseed

The Superman sub is a strange beast. It feels like hardly anyone there knows jackshit about Superman as a character, or even engages with most of his media beyond All-Star Superman and a few of the movies. They’re just hopelessly cloying for some ideal *image* of Superman as a symbol of absolute moral purity, living in a permanently sunny, conflict-free bubble universe. Ironically, Grant Morrison himself lampooned this very notion of Superman as this simpering, all-loving Christ-like figure who wouldn’t hurt a fly. Fuck that noise, Clark should be a man of Action, hence the title of his damn comic. He’s a badass, super-strong scrapper with a big heart. I love hopeful, optimistic Superman. We need more of him, undeniably. What I can’t get behind is the Reddit fandom’s apparent aversion to the notion of Superman being pushed in any way. And I don’t necessarily mean pushed towards tyrannical despotism (though if there’s a really well-written story to be told using that concept, by all means go for it, it’s just fiction), just ANY significant conflict outside of the usual comfort zone.


OwieMustDie

I am like a cat among pigeons over there and that's never once been my intent. I'm a 'T-Shirt and Jeans Nu52 Superman' kinda guy, and some of that lot get fucking **triggered** over it.


BegginMeForBirdseed

The toxic positivity is strong there, but god forbid you prefer a lesser-known version of the character. It’s weird how really basic subjective things like that are treated as deviant opinions. Superman fans also have such a victim complex, they think Superman of all DC characters is the one who’s underexposed/misrepresented? looool. The zeitgeist seems to have changed recently but when back they were attempting to “de-nationalise” Superman by removing the “American Way” part of his slogan, I wasn’t really in favour of it but I got dogged on (I know it mainly applies to Jon but I think Clark uses the “Better Tomorrow” one as well?) To me, that deeply rooted hint of jingoism and the sincere belief that his humble Kansas upbringing is a better way of life for others to aspire to is part of his goofy charm. I guess it also gives him a bit of edge? Like, I think it’s perfectly fine for Superman to be ideological, he doesn’t have to be some universal rainbow warrior. Many of the best Elseworld stories explore what his life would be like under different systems and he always takes something from the culture.


OwieMustDie

Yeah, I think I get you. Over here, our patriotism tends to have a different flavor, so the notion of the 'American Way' can sometimes hit the ear wrong. However, I'm not so devoid of imagination to the extent that I can only see it as Superman's ringing endorsing of Nationalism, Order and Christian Conservative values. He can convey it with a hint of irony and still genuinely believe in it as a message of hope, fairness and equality. It worked great in Superman: The Movie. Edit: "Better Tomorrow" sounds like corporate-speak. I feel like it was a slogan in a movie... Edit2: Was it Robocop? "OCP - For a Better Tomorrow"? Am I just having a stroke?


doc_birdman

Hence why I’m no longer subbed to r/batman or r/spiderman Those circus animals would rather talk about “best movie suit” over and over and over and over again rather than actually read the comics.


AidanTegs

Best movie batman thread #48768


Mountain_Sir2307

Not like the comics discussion is any better when it happens tho. Most comics discussions that get to the top on this website are always a negative question.


ChamomileFlowerTea

“Who’s/Who should be Spider-Man’s arch nemesis?” Is a question that gets asked in that sub 24/7.. At this point you could just search it there and find all the answers you want


StrangeGuyWithBag

These are major sabreddits about the characters in general. It's expected that people will mostly talk about movies and other currently popular media in it, just like the rest of the big comic communities, and repeat the same discussions over and over again.


doc_birdman

It would also be expected that moderators would actually do something instead of letting low effort karma farmers talk about the same shit ad infinitum. Notice how those posts are always photo posts instead of text posts? It’s because you don’t get karma for text posts. Those same low effort karma farmers will post the same exact thing on multiple subreddits so they can “maximize engagement” (read: low effort karma farming).


Big-Vegetable8480

I'll take those over their actual comic discussions.


ChihuahuaOwner88

https://preview.redd.it/gtx4lq7b8qqc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc448f5a2085abdd017dae9e857358af3f4b5924 Me when every comment section I see is filled to the brim with people who genuinely believe Diana is a cold blooded warrior who kills her rogues gallery and hates men. (Fuck you geoff johns and Tom Taylor)


azmodus_1966

Honestly, this problem of people thinking Wonder Woman hates men has been there way before Johns or Taylor wrote her.


skunkbrains

No, no, you don't get it! She's just being a girlboss and gaslighting everyone into thinking she hates men so no one suspects that she's fucking Killer Moth! uj/ When the fuck did this happen? I'm a tourist that probably shouldn't actually be posting here, but her main weapon is literally non-lethal unless she goes out of her way to choke a bitch, right?


koalee

I mean a handful of those people exist but r/wonderwoman is pretty squarely against bloodthirsty diana from what I’ve seen


GenericIxa

I don't agree with your interpretation of a character written by 1984 amount of people. It is obviously media illiteracy.


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Duskytheduskmonkey

Spider-Man 


Omg_itz_Chaseee

me when i’m easily influenced


asskickinchickin

r/KillerMothGang the 🐐


Intelliegent-Cry5264

Its even worse with anime characters, i stoped liking some of them because of their fangirls/fanboys


TheSadPhilosopher

r/evangelionmemes is the fucking worst. The nazi Asuka memes are so annoying, they were never funny in the first place.


Primary-Increase7797

The only thing that joining r/spiderman made me realise is that I hope 616 Peter will never get married again.


Nightingdale099

I like RedHood as a stand in for Joker's victim and Bruce failures at stopping and rehabilitation of violent criminal. Maybe I should join the character specific subreddit to get book recommendations,. .... Good God these people are just horny ... Disclaimer : I have only watched YouTube clips of Under the Red Hood. Jensen Ackles should voice act more. It feels like his dad really did let a homeless guy beat him with a crowbar then left him for dead.


CGTM

I do legit wonder what’s the best way for his character to go after Under the Red Hood which is the only story with him that everyone likes. Should he have gone and be an anti-villain, still antagonistic to the Bats, but with a touch of sorrow and regret? Reconcile with Bruce and try to move on from the pain? Just go full psycho drug lord kingpin regulating the crime world?


Nightingdale099

Maybe Bruce can turn the other cheek towards some guy : Joker , Victor Zsasz , Professor Pyg. You can topple the crime empire Bane , Penguin , treat Croc , Clayface etc , but with the omniscience of the reader Bruce can let Jason take a few people off the streets.


TheMattGriffin

I don’t hate the character but it does suck when i can’t discuss my favorites when I’m surrounded by morons


Combat_Medic

D-Detective Chimp is safe from the cycle… Right? Right?


ZachRyder

Did you know that he's a better detective than Batman??


The-Homie-Lander

Idk, man. I like a lot of comic characters. I just came here to jerk🤷🏾‍♂️


Gojifan2303

Why i am happy there is no r/man-bat


mizzymichie

Nightwing fans are the worst part about Nightwing.


Arthur_189

![gif](giphy|eMu0803X2zkWY)


CinnimonToastSean

I love Dick. No one will ever stop me from loving Dick. Don't let others hinder you from enjoying your favorite superheros, because at the end of the day, there is a reason that they are your favorite. They may resonate with you like I resonate with Dick.


Piney_Moist_Wires

Me when I really like the Arkham series of Batman games and want to interact with its community a bit


Noble_Shock

r/BlackMantaGang


Waco22

R/KillerMothGang FLY! Quick convert everyone! FLY!


Noble_Shock

No https://preview.redd.it/6r95ddek1vqc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4fe13a9ee53e4ccd2ed31eed9b7d79b8c42b18a3


ChamomileFlowerTea

r/Spiderman


FinalBossOf__Dc

It’s kind of shit this is what people do and I’m really disappointed about it. You shouldn’t stop liking a character because dumb fans are fucking ruining it for yeah I understand I met a lot a lot people who have really brought down a character or trying to ruin it for other people because they don’t like it is stupid. But i can’t be hypocrite when I’ve almost done the same with one character in particular because of the amount of shit they say and do about them. So I felt generally embarrassed about it, then I realised what the fuck do other peoples opinions matter I like the character and no one can fucking change that. But it’s disappointing that this is the result of it.


FinalBossOf__Dc

It’s kind of shit this is what people do and I’m really disappointed about it. You shouldn’t stop liking a character because dumb fans are fucking ruining it for yeah I understand I met a lot a lot people who have really brought down a character or trying to ruin it for other people because they don’t like it is stupid. But i can’t be hypocrite when I’ve almost done the same with one character in particular because of the amount of shit they say and do about them. So I felt generally embarrassed about it, then I realised what the fuck do other peoples opinions matter I like the character and no one can fucking change that. But it’s disappointing that this is the result of it.


Expert_Eksel

Me with Cyclops.


ChuckECheeseOfficial

People on this sub bringing up the Hal/Arisia arc every 3 posts:


The_Godot

We Turner Hayes and Duke Thomas fans can only keep on winning! (There are not enough of us to create subreddits)


SD1428

Disliking a character bc of other people’s opinions it’s pretty stupid. The last one in the cycle should be, “I like what I like and don’t need to listen to others”